Warren, This may help you. Go to the following website: freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~westharris/ Click on "Descendants of Sir William Harris" Scroll down to "Fifth Generation" Scroll down and click on "+36M vii West Harris Sr" You can follow the West Harris, Sr. line from that point. I have been researching my line of descendents of West Harris Sr. since 2000. Have fun!!! James H. Harris Virginia Beach, VA Harris DNA Group 4 -----Original Message----- From: harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Warren B. Carah Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:04 PM To: barbhens@sbcglobal.net; harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] The Line of West Harris Dear Ms. Hensley: Last May on the Harris-Hunters message Boards I posted the following message: Subject: John and Amiah Harris of VA, SC and Coffee Co., TN I have renewed my search for the origins of John and Amiah Harris of Coffee County, TN. John Harris was born between 1771 and 1780. No records have been located that point to where he was born, but it is likely it was in Virginia, North Carolina or South Carolina. He lived for an extended period in South Carolina as this is where most, if not all his children were born. He moved to Franklin county Tennessee sometime before the 1820 census. This is in the south-east part of Tennessee between Nashville and Chattanooga. He lived in sometime between the 1840 and 1850 census. No grave has been located, but it is likely he is buried in the old Harris Cemetery near Hillsboro in Coffee Co. John's wife was a woman named Amiah who was born in about 1776 in Virginia, based on 1850 census data. Amiah is a form of the name Amy and is sometimes used as a male first name. There has been no information uncovered regarding where in Virginia Amiah was born or where she was married. Amiah died in Coffee county, Tennessee sometime between the 1850 and 1860 census. The following children have been identified: Abel K. Harris, b. abt. 1802--South Carolina, moved to Perry Co., Alabama by 1826, d. 1870--Bibb Co., AL Lewis Harris, b. abt. 1805--South Carolina, lived in Coffee Co., TN all his life, d. 1867--Coffee Co., TN William W. Harris, b. 1809--South Carolina, lived in Coffee Co., TN all his life, d. 1892--Coffee Co., TN Unknown Female Harris, b. bet. 1811-1815, known from census enumeration Robert Oliver Harris, b. 1813--South Carolina, moved to Perry Co., Alabama by 1830, d. 1874--Perry Co., AL Unknown Male Harris, b. bet. 1816-1820, Known to exist from census enumeration, may have been an Andrew J. Harris based on local documents Elizabeth J. Harris, b. 1819--Location Unknown, moved to Perry Co., AL, d. 1841--Perry Co., AL There are other Harris's with the name Abel, but I have not been able to link them to John Harris as possible relatives. The uniqueness of the name Amiah has been my main focus in finding the Virginia origins of this wife of John Harris. Since a number of the Harris Hunter list members have searches focused in Virginia, perhaps you have come across the name "Amiah" in your research of the 1770's and later period. In response to that message and another from a Billie who was looking for a William W. Harris, you suggested that the William Washington Harris of Spartanburg Co., SC was the son of James and Priscilla Gilliam Harris and he the son of Isham harris and he the son of West Harris. Since posting my message, I have learned that my John Harris is a member of YDNA Group 4, and is thus likely a descendant of Thomas Harris of Isle of Wight County, Virginia, or one of his brothers. With this new DNA evidence, several interesting coincidences appear in the data. Your mention of William Washington Harris in the Isle of Wight Harris line draws some attention to the William W. Harris, a son of John and Amiah Harris (see above). The other coincidence is the use of the name Oliver in some of the children and grand children of John and Amiah Harris. There is an Oliver family in the Harris YDNA Project WEB site that are genetically Harrises of the Group 4 line. I reread your note from May and was wondering how my John Harris might fit into a line descended from West Harris. Is it possible for you to fill in some dates for West Harris and his descendants? I have the following from various sources: West Harris (b. 1715) > Isham Harris (b. 1741) > James Harris (B. ?) > William Washington Harris (b. ?). When I first learned of my Harris' being a part of Group 4 I was thrilled to be finally making some progress, but then I realized that there are at least 5-6 generations between Thomas Harris (b. 1638) and my John Harris. That works out to a theoretical population of several thousand Harrises between the two men. None of my family genealogy research has been easy, but the Harris clan (my mother's family) has me running in circles. Thanks for any insights you can provide. Regards, Warren B. Carah Brighton, MI ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message