Randall, First let me introduce myself: My name is Paul David Harris. I am the 7th generation direct lineal descendant of Evan Harris, i.e., Evan was my 4th Great Grandfather. Evan Harris David Harris Silas Evan Harris John L. Harris Ernest E. "Ernie" Harris 1/LT. Earl Loren Harris, Sr. Paul David Harris I'd be happy to put dates of birth, death, names of other children, wives, and siblings if its relevant. The Evan Harris who was my 4th Great Grandfather was born somewhere in Virginia in 1792 and turns up on the Knox County, KY Tax Rolls for several years between 1802 and 1809. In this same time period (1802-1809) there are other Harrises in Knox County, KY such as Abagail, Henrietta, John, and (I think there is one or two Benjamin Harrises in 1810 not listed on the Tax Rolls. One of the Benjamin Harrises was a Sheriff and maybe the same or another Benjamin who was a Captain in the Knox County Militia. Benoni Harris and Benoni Moreland were also in Knox County, KY in that same time period of 1802-1809. These name recur elsewhere as a migration pattern takes place. In 1810,  Evan gets married to Rebecca Moreland in Hawkins County, TN. Benoni Harris signs or posts a $1,250. marriage bond for Evan and Rebecca Harris. Thereafter, Benoni sell 75 of his 200 acres on Robertson Creek to Evan Harris; which also is also contiguous to property of Benjamin Moreland (Rebecca's father). Rufus Harris wrote a biographical of Benon/Benoni Harris that was published in First Families of Tennessee, Vol. 2. (attached). Many records were lost in Hawkins County, TN when the courthouse in Rodgersville got burned down. Some records survived because the Clerk of Court had them at his house when the courthouse was burned. Other records were lost to posterity when the British burned the U.S. Capitol during the War of 1812. In the latter instance of burning records, the federal census information for (approximately)  1800 to 1820 were destroyed. 1829 seems to have been a bad year for the Harris family. It was the year that Benoni Harris died. Two of Benoni's children die before him or somewhat contemporaneously. They were Evan Harris ( a five year old) and Thomas (a fifteen year old). Rufus omitted them from his biographical sketch of Benoni Harris. The early 1830's seems to been a time of epidemics like spotted fever and cholera for eastern Tennessee and eastern Kentucky. From the time of Evan Harris' birth (1792) until the migration to Indiana in approximately 1831, there was an overwhelming abundance of changes in boundary lines or jurisdictions. Tennessee had been a part of North Carolina; Kentucky had been part of Virginia; and, part of eastern Tennessee had been in the State of Franklin (a state that never got to be admitted into the Union). County boundary lines were rapidly evolving as new counties emerged from former counties, e.g., Harlan County, Ky was once part of Knox County, Ky. Similar changes were taking place in Tennessee and Indiana. Evan Harris, family and friends left Hawkins County, TN and migrated to the area of West Central Indiana, i.e., Clay, Owen, Parke, Putnam Counties. This migration to Indiana created something of a split of the Benoni Harris family and Evan Harris family with the exception of Absolom Harris who was the son of Benoni Harris; he went with Evan Harris to Indiana. Benoni Moreland went with Evan Harris at about this same time.   There was a Charity Harris who was indicated somewhere as being the wife of Israel Harris who turns up nearby in Putnam County, Indiana. Not sure how she fits  into the family tree. There are others in Group 40 DNA that match very close to another 7th generation lineal descendant of Evan Harris (Harris surname Y-DNA match Haplogroup R1b1a2). In this DNA match there seems to be a couple of Israel Harrises around Blount County, TN even though the children and wife of Benoni Harris wind up in Hamblen County, Tennessee. The location of Robertson Creek Harrises and Morelands would be near the present day county lines of Grainger, Hawkins, and Hamblen County, Tennessee. It still perplexes me as to a more specific location for the Harrises in Knox County, Kentucky for one reason. In the day and times of Evan Harris and for some time thereafter, a dead person would be buried quite soon after his/her death and quite nearby. In many instances on the property where they lived or the nearest church, or nearest town cemetery. Who was buried nearby might denote a relationship or tombstone inscription with dates or other relevant information. Usually a persons will would be probated in the county where they died, but ambiguity sets in when county lines are modified and which county keeps the record after the split ? Since Benoni is only four years older than Evan, I would speculate that they are brothers and would really be fascinated to see one of his descendants DNA report. (preferably a 7th generation lineal descendant with the surname Harris)  Benoni and Evan were both farmers and up until the invention of the automobile they continued in this pattern of occupations for the most part. They and their descendants were mostly landowners as opposed to sharecroppers and I suppose I'll find a better location for them in Kentucky in the plat books and land grants for that area. There seems to be a pattern that evolves of honoring one's ascendants by naming children after their forefathers. Recurring names most prominent are Evan, John, Benjamin, Thomas & James. It was a generation or two after Evan Harris before my ancestors could write their own names with more than an "X" mark. No slave owners in my line of descent. They were all Baptists with the notation that Rebecca was or came from a family of Quakers. Just hard working honest farmers with a lot of children at every generation until the automobile came along. Since Randall mentioned Sullivan County, Indiana in approximately the time period I couldn't help but take notice and introduce myself. I'm sure there are other persons who moved with Evan and his entourage to Indiana, perhaps some sooner and some later; and some at the same time. I am quite committed to finding out who Evan's parents and ancestors are. I have a number of my relatives diligently working on this for many years. One of them is in her 90's I suppose and she has been in search of this information her entire life. Thus, it seems, time is of the essence for me to accomplish my goals. Any input would be greatly appreciated, Paul David Harris pony03e@yahoo.com   (copy and paste into email recipient address works better to avoid a   Mailer-Daemon) ________________________________ From: "randall.l.harris@sbcglobal.net" <randall.l.harris@sbcglobal.net> To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:43 PM Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Tyre Harris Tyre (Tyree or Tyra) Harris TimeLine There are at least two Tyre Harris’s in Kentucky during this time frame. One in Nelson Co., KY and the other in Madison and Garrard Counties, KY.  I am try to follow the Tyre Harris in Nelson County because I find him and his wife Susanna in Sullivan County, Indiana in 1820s. The reason I am following Tyre Harris is that I am speculating that he is related to Benjamin Harris, my direct line (1776-1848, DNA Group 2).  If anyone can shed light on this Tyre Harris please feel free to shine forth. Marriage of Tyre Harris to Susanna (Suzannah) Case Record title:Kentucky Marriages, 1785-1979 Groom's' name:Tyre Harris Bride's' name:Susanna Case Marriage date:05 Jul 1802 (or 1805) Marriage place:Bardstown, Nelson, Kentucky Indexing project (batch) number:M01678-4 System origin:Kentucky-EASy Source film number:1929414 Certificate of the Register of the General Land Office at Jeffersonville on 13 September 1818.  Richard Wall (assignee of Tyre Harris) NE¼ of Section 10 in Township 2N of range 2E. [NE Claysville, Vernon Township of Washington County, Indiana] United States General Land Office certificate No. 79 given 18 April 1821 to Tyre Harris of Washington County, Indiana 80 acres in Sullivan County, Indiana The East half of the NE quarter of Section 33, Township 9N Range 9W. United States General Land Office certificate No. 80 given 28 August 1821 to Tyre Harris of Washington County, Indiana 29.98 acres in Sullivan County, Indiana.  The East half of the NE quarter of Section 4 in Township 8N North Range 9W. >From the records of the Little Flock Church by Rachael K. Harris as published in the Sullivan County Historical Society, Inc. Volume 35, No. 3, March 2011, pages 37-38. “The land in which the church cemetery was founded was deeded by Tyre Harris one of the first members and was purchased in 1826.  The old, yellow with age deed which was made at the county capitol, then at Merom is in the possession of the present clerk, Miss Ethel Thompson, Also all of the church records, a great number of which especially the early ones, being written in a clear legible hand with goose-quill pen.  The language is clear and to the point the spelling a little different in some instances.  Tyre Harris and Wm B. Eldridge (paternal grandfathers of Jennie Eldridge DeVol) did the preaching from 1821 to 1824.  The founders of the church were as follows: Tyre Harris, Susannah, John Hadges, Polly Morgan, Mary Hill, Elizabeth Anderson, Robert Anderson, Betsy Morgan, Sarah Eldridge, Patience Cummins.” Little Flock Baptist Church 1821 The church originally met in a log building in 1826, a frame building 1846, and a third structure in 1871. The following was copied on December 27, 2011 at the Sullivan County Library The following is a summary of papers on Little Flock Baptist Church. 1 ½ acres of land bought for $50 from Tyre Harris & Susanna his wife on 29 July 1826.  It was part of the NE quarter, Section 4 in Township number 8 North of Range number nine West in land bounded as follows to wit. Beginning at a stake standing on the East line of D_____ North East Corner of said quarter running from thence South on to line fif West sixteen rods to a stake thence North fifteen rods to a stake thence beginning containing one acre and a half of land … The Little Flock Church was organized in June, 1821.  The charter members were Tyre Harris, Susanah Harris, John Hodges, Polly Morgan, Mary Hill, Robert Anderson, Elizaeth Anderson, Sarah Anderson, Betsy Anderson, Sarah Eldridge, and Patience Cummins.  Formerly belonged to Union Association. Little Flock member roll: Names                    When                      When dismissed              letter Tyre Harris Susannah Harris                                    Jan 10, 1929 John Hodges                                        Nov 13, 1824 Polly Morgan                                        Aug 7, 1824 Mary Hill                                              Aug 7, 1824 Elizabeth Anderson Is nee Elizabeth Pounds July 10, 1822 Robert Anderson, senr Sarah Anderson                                    Dec 8, 1833 Patience Cummins John Grant    Aug 11, 1821 bapt            June 7, 1823 Hanna Grant  Aug 11, 1821 letter            June 7, 1823 George Rusher        Nov 16, 1822 letter John Graham Nov 16, 1823 letter  Oct 11, 1823 Eliza Anderson        Dec 7, 1822 letter    June 20, 1840 Robert Anderson, jr Dec 7, 1822 bapt    March 26 1840 (father of my Cynthia Ann Anderson) Abraham Anderson  April 10, 1823 letter Benjamin Siner        Aug 9, 1823 letter    July 8, 1826 Polly Siner              Aug 9, 1823 letter Sullivan Co., Indiana 1830 Census shows Tyre Harris Males Under 5:        = 1 15 thru 19:    = 1 20 thru 29:    = 1 40 thru 49:    = 1 70 thru 79:    = 1 Females Under 5:    = 1 5 thru 9:    = 1 10 thru 14: = 1 15 thru 19: = 1 40 thru 49: = 1 Persons Under 20:  = 6 Persons 20 thru 49: = 3 Total: = 10 Sullivan County, Indiana 1840 shows Susan Harris Name: Susan Harris, County: Sullivan, State: Indiana Males 10 thru 14:    = 1 Females Under 5:    = 1 10 thru 14: = 1 15 thru 19: = 1 20 thru 29: = 1 50 thru 59: = 1 Total = 6 End of information concerning Tyre & Susanna Harris.  The Sullivan Co. Courthouse burned in 1850 and so there are no will and probate records prior to 1850.  Sullivan has good cemetery records and I have not found either Tyre or Susanna listed as buried in Sullivan County. Thanks for any help you can provide. Randall Harris ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message