Hi, everyone, Looking back through prior records in other places, I stumbled across a notation in the White Oak Swamp/Henrico Meeting minutes that indicated that James & Judith Harris Crew visited or moved to Rich Square Meeting, North Carolina, in 1781 [Wright, op. cit., p. 60.] Rich Square Meeting is in Northampton Co. in eastern North Carolina. They appear to have stayed only a short time, and returned to Cedar Creek, where, as you know, he was disowned in 1786. It appears that he made amends, and joined White Oak Swamp/Henrico Meeting. On to Part 18 of the descendants of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris. Pam ==================================== Genealogical Publishing Co., op. cit. p. 108: Aug. 20, 1785. John BARNAT [Barnett], of Goochland, to James CREW, of St. Martin's 25a. ==================================== Davis, Virginia, op. cit. p. 471: JAMES HARRIS James Harris was the son of Benjamin and Sarah Dumas Harris, and was probably born in Louisa County about 1745. . James was still in Caroline County in 1785, for he was requested to view the way for a road petitioned for by Paul Woolfolk; Johnson Faulkner, William Peatross and John Butler were to assist him. [1] He must have maintained homes in both places for he was identified as living in Henrico County that same year in a land transaction in Hanover County.[2] It is not known exactly when James and his family moved to Henrico County permanently. By 1787, James was listed as the general manager of the James River Company to Richmond. [3] [Virginia cited {1} Caroline County, Virginia Court Order Book, 1785, p. 96; {2} Hanover County Deed Book, 1783- 1792, p. 80; and {3} The Virginia Gazette {newspaper}, November 15, 1787.] ==================================== Brewer, op. cit. p. 152: 13/1/1787. Thomas HARRIS Junr. requests our certificate to White Oak Swamp, Henrico Co meeting of his right of membership and clearness from marriage engagements. John HARRIS & John W. MADDOX appointed to make necessary enquirey and prepare one. [Thomas, son of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] ==================================== Wright, op. cit. p. 64: [FAMILY RECORDS] Children of James and Isabella LADD: Clotilda, b. 11/3/1768 Benjamin, b. 3/10/1769; d. 10/9/1779 Ann, b. 29/3/1771 James Denson, b. 23/1/1774; d. 14/1/1814 Joseph, b. 18/7/1776 Mary, b. 25/3/1779 Benjamin Whitehead, b. 21/4/1782 - p. 71: Thomas HARRISS, son of Benjamin HARRISS, dec'd., of Hanover Co., and Chlotilda LADD, daughter of James LADD married 6th da, 3rd mo, 1787 at Charles City Co. Witnesses: Robert TERRELL, Robert PLEASANTS, John CREW, Benjamin CREW, John CREW, John BINFORD, Samuel LADD, William RATLIFF, Harrison RATCLIFF, Elizabeth HARRISON, Margaret CREW, Sarah CREW, Rachel LADD, Sarah LADD. Relations: James LADD, Amos LADD, Ann LADD, Priscilla LADD, James D. LADD, Thomas LADD, Samuel TERRELL, Thomas TITUS. [Clotilda Ladd] - p. 154: 25/8/1787. Representatives appointed by the preparative meetings: for Cedar Creek Thomas STANLEY & Waddy STANLEY, for Caroline Clark T. MOORMAN & Thomas TERRELL, for Jenito Thomas PLEASANTS & James HUNNICUTT, for Amelia William JOHNSON & Jesse JOHNSON, for Camp Creek Robert DOUGLASS & William CREW, who were present except for Jesse JOHNSON. [Genito was in Goochland Co., and Camp Creek was in Louisa Co. Thomas Stanley, husband of Unity Crew, and son-in-law of James & Judith Harris Crew; Clark Terrell Moorman, husband of Rachel, and son-in-law of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] - p. 17: Chlotilda HARRIS removed from White Oak Swamp, Henrico Co, by marriage and now resides within your limits, we recommend her to your Christian regard. Signed 1st da, 12th mo, 1787 James LADD clk, Unity LADD clk this time. [Clotilda Ladd Harris, daughter of James & Isabella and wife of Thomas; Unity Harris Ladd, wife of John & daughter of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] - p. 14: Nicholas JOHNSON (son of Christr JOHNSON) of Campbel Co and Martha HARGRAVE (daughter of Samuel HARGRAVE deceased) of Caroline Co married the 16th da, 4th mo, 1788 in Caroline Co. Witnesses: Jesse HARGRAVE, Thomas HARGRAVE, Joseph HARGRAVE, Pleasant TERREL, Thos TERREL, Jonathan TERREL, Clark T. MOORMAN, Pleasant COBBS, Matthew P. TERREL, Henry CHILES, Ben BURCH, Robert TERREL, Joseph McGeehee, Saml WINSTON, Ann McGeehee, Margaret TERREL, Salley CHILES, Ursla F. CHEADLE, Caty TERREL, Rhoda MOORMAN, Rachel MOORMAN, Sarah PITTRUS [Peatross], Rebecca TERREL, Sally MOORMAN, Salley ROGERS, Polly HEWLETT, Rhoda TERREL, Elizabeth REDD. [Martha Hargrave was b. 1761 in Caroline Co., VA, the daughter of Samuel & Martha Chiles Hargrave {this book, p. 3.} {Martha Chiles was the daughter of Menoah Chiles with his first, undiscovered Terrell wife; she was the half-sister of Pattie Chiles Hutchens.}] ============================================ [END OF FILE] ============================================