Ira, It has been many years since I researched William Claibourne/ Claiborne. However, if my memory serves correctly, William Claiborne was not actually a trained surveyor (so not technically qualified to fulfill this office.) It appears that he hired qualified surveyors, and imported them to perform surveys under his appointment, and these men were recorded as his "servants" in his importation records. (Everyone assumes that these men were indentured, but in fact I think they were not indentured, but were freemen and qualified surveyors simply hired by William Claiborne.) The hired surveyors were William Harris, Anthony Burrowes, William Morris, and John Phipps. Here is some documentation. Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com ========================================================== Compiled by Pamela Howerton Stone Ross pamstone@cfl.rr.net 362 North Brevard Avenue Cocoa Beach, FL 32931-2938 Extracted from: NUGENT, Nell Marion: Cavaliers and Pioneers: Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants; Vol. 1: 1623-1666; Originally Published, 1934, by the Dietz Press, Richmond; Republished, 1992, by the Virginia State Library and Archives, Richmond, VA, USA; ISBN #0-88490-174-2 - p. 6: Virginia Colony Land Office Patent Book 1, Pt. 1, p. 41 William Clayborne Gent. of James City, 150 acres in the corporation of Elizabeth City, 5 June 1624. Divided into two parcels: 50 acres North on the land of John Gunnery, South to a Creek parting this & the land of William Lansden, East upon the Southampton River & West upon the maine land, 100 acres adjoining on the other side of the said Lansden, extending Southwest- ward to a Creek which divideth it from the land of William Capps, East upon the said River, & West upon the maine land. Due for the transportation out of England at his own costs of 3 servants: William HARRIS in the George in 1621, William MORRIS & John Pipps [PHIPPS] in the Tyger 1621. [Servants, in this case, proven by other documents to have been educated apprentices or hired persons? OR some possibly even William Claiborne's relations, I believe, but have not yet proven.--PHSR.] - p. 12: Virginia Colony Land Office Patent Book 1, Pt. 1, p. 12 William HARRIS, Planter, of Warwick River, 100 acres about [now the city of Newport News] 2 miles below Blunt Point, abutting West on a Creek parting the same from the land of Richard Tree, Easterly along the maine river &c. Lease, as above.* *[On p. 11 is the first patent in this format, that of "David Poole of the Country of France, Vignorone, & now inhabiting Elizabeth Citty"; this patent, as the next 9 following it, were all dated 12 Dec 1627.--PHSR] - p. 12: Virginia Colony Land Office Patent Book 1, Pt. 1, p. 94 William HARRIS, Planter, of Warwick River, 50 acres about [now the city of Newport News] 2 miles below Blunt Point, West upon the land of the sd. Harris, extending East 25 poles, South on the maine river & North into the maine woods. Lease as above. 20 Nov 1628. - p. 11: Virginia Colony Land Office Patent Book 1, Pt. 1, p. 69 John LEYDEN, Ancient Planter, 100 acres on the East side of Blunt Point Creek, abutting North on land granted by lease to William Cooksey, extending Southerly to the Creek (parting) the same from land now in the tenure of Anthony BURROWES & William HARRIS. 2 Dec 1628. [now the city of Newport News] Formerly granted to him by Sir Georg Yeardley within the Islands of Henricus & Coxendale 2 May 1619 (Marginal note: This date is mistaken; it should be 26 Feb 1619.-NMN) Which patent is now resigned in reguard of the great danger of planting the same &c. - ========================================================== -----Original Message----- From: harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ira Harris Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 3:05 PM To: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Documentation For "The George" : William Harris THE CHRONICLES OF AMERICA SERIES, Allen Johnson, Editor PIONEERS OF THE OLD SOUTH A Chronicles of English Colonial Beginnings by Mary Johnston Copyright 1918, by Yale University Press New Haven: Yale University Press Chapter VII: YOUNG VIRGINIA, Page 100 "In 1621 Yeardley, desiring to be relieved, was succeeded by Sir Francis Wyatt. In October the new Governor came from England in the GEORGE, and with him a goodly company. Page 114 "Virginians were already preparing for an expansion to the north. There was a man in Virginia named William Claiborne. This individual --- able, determined, self-reliant, energetic --- had come in as a young man, with the title of surveyor general for the Company, in the ship that brought Sir Francis Wyatt, just before the massacre of 1622" ************************* Among the persons brought over by William Claiborne was William Harris. William Harris was part of the surveying party of Secretary Claiborne. For the next several years, William Harris was busy taking care of the affairs of Secretary Claiborne, surveying and dealing in land, around Jamestown. Among the very sparse land records about Jamestown, his name is mentioned. Ira L. 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Yes, Pam. That is my understanding also. If I remember correctly, he is the one tied in with "the Glass House" in Jamestown. Ira On Jul 23, 2012, at 8:03 PM, Pam Stone wrote: > Ira, > > It has been many years since I researched William Claibourne/ > Claiborne. > > However, if my memory serves correctly, William Claiborne was > not actually a trained surveyor (so not technically qualified to > fulfill this office.) > > It appears that he hired qualified surveyors, and imported them to > perform surveys under his appointment, and these men were recorded > as his "servants" in his importation records. (Everyone assumes that > these men were indentured, but in fact I think they were not indentured, > but were freemen and qualified surveyors simply hired by William Claiborne.) > > The hired surveyors were William Harris, Anthony Burrowes, William Morris, > and John Phipps. > > Here is some documentation. > > Pam > pamstone@cfl.rr.com > > ========================================================== > > Compiled by Pamela Howerton Stone Ross > pamstone@cfl.rr.net > 362 North Brevard Avenue > Cocoa Beach, FL 32931-2938 > > Extracted from: > NUGENT, Nell Marion: Cavaliers and Pioneers: > Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants; > Vol. 1: 1623-1666; Originally Published, 1934, > by the Dietz Press, Richmond; Republished, 1992, > by the Virginia State Library and Archives, Richmond, > VA, USA; ISBN #0-88490-174-2 > > - > p. 6: > Virginia Colony Land Office Patent Book 1, Pt. 1, p. 41 > William Clayborne Gent. of James City, 150 acres in > the corporation of Elizabeth City, 5 June 1624. Divided > into two parcels: 50 acres North on the land of John > Gunnery, South to a Creek parting this & the land of > William Lansden, East upon the Southampton River > & West upon the maine land, 100 acres adjoining on > the other side of the said Lansden, extending Southwest- > ward to a Creek which divideth it from the land of > William Capps, East upon the said River, & West > upon the maine land. Due for the transportation out > of England at his own costs of 3 servants: > William HARRIS in the George in 1621, William MORRIS > & John Pipps [PHIPPS] in the Tyger 1621. > [Servants, in this case, proven by other documents to have > been educated apprentices or hired persons? OR some > possibly even William Claiborne's relations, I believe, but > have not yet proven.--PHSR.] > - > p. 12: > Virginia Colony Land Office Patent Book 1, Pt. 1, p. 12 > William HARRIS, Planter, of Warwick River, 100 acres about [now the > city of Newport News] > 2 miles below Blunt Point, abutting West on a Creek parting > the same from the land of Richard Tree, Easterly along the > maine river &c. Lease, as above.* > *[On p. 11 is the first patent in this format, that of "David Poole > of the Country of France, Vignorone, & now inhabiting > Elizabeth Citty"; this patent, as the next 9 following it, were > all dated 12 Dec 1627.--PHSR] > - > p. 12: > Virginia Colony Land Office Patent Book 1, Pt. 1, p. 94 > William HARRIS, Planter, of Warwick River, 50 acres about [now the > city of Newport News] > 2 miles below Blunt Point, West upon the land of the sd. > Harris, extending East 25 poles, South on the maine river > & North into the maine woods. Lease as above. 20 Nov 1628. > - > p. 11: > Virginia Colony Land Office Patent Book 1, Pt. 1, p. 69 > John LEYDEN, Ancient Planter, 100 acres on the East > side of Blunt Point Creek, abutting North on land granted > by lease to William Cooksey, extending Southerly to the > Creek (parting) the same from land now in the tenure of > Anthony BURROWES & William HARRIS. 2 Dec 1628. [now the > city of Newport News] > Formerly granted to him by Sir Georg Yeardley within the > Islands of Henricus & Coxendale 2 May 1619 (Marginal > note: This date is mistaken; it should be 26 Feb 1619.-NMN) > Which patent is now resigned in reguard of the great danger > of planting the same &c. > - > > ========================================================== > > -----Original Message----- > From: harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ira Harris > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 3:05 PM > To: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Documentation For "The George" : William Harris > > THE CHRONICLES OF AMERICA SERIES, Allen Johnson, Editor PIONEERS OF THE OLD > SOUTH A Chronicles of English Colonial Beginnings by Mary Johnston Copyright > 1918, by Yale University Press New Haven: Yale University Press > > Chapter VII: YOUNG VIRGINIA, > Page 100 > "In 1621 Yeardley, desiring to be relieved, was succeeded by Sir Francis > Wyatt. In October the new Governor came from England in the GEORGE, and > with him a goodly company. > > Page 114 > "Virginians were already preparing for an expansion to the north. There was > a man in Virginia named William Claiborne. This individual --- able, > determined, self-reliant, energetic --- had come in as a young man, with the > title of surveyor general for the Company, in the ship that brought Sir > Francis Wyatt, just before the massacre of 1622" > > ************************* > Among the persons brought over by William Claiborne was William Harris. > William Harris was part of the surveying party of Secretary Claiborne. > For the next several years, William Harris was busy taking care of the > affairs of Secretary Claiborne, surveying and dealing in land, around > Jamestown. > Among the very sparse land records about Jamestown, his name is mentioned. > > Ira L. Harris III > Member, Group 6, Harris Y-DNA Family Study Line of Robert Harris of Ware > Creek, New Kent County, Virginia > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message