Evelyn, Check out this site http://www.slcl.org/books-emedia-and-more. This is the St Louis County library and they have 12 of Ms Davis's books concerning Virginia. St. Louis County Library Headquarters Tier 5 (top floor) 1640 S. Lindbergh Blvd. St. Louis, MO 63131 314-994-3300, ext. 2070 There may be an interlibrary loan policy for out of state loans. One would have to call and check and check with their library to see if the two can make this loan. Leon O Kearns Sec Shelby County Missouri Historical Society Charter Member Daviess Co Mo Genealogy Society -----Original Message----- From: EVELYN WALLACE Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:01 PM To: Harris Hunters Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Some Early Harris & Overton Males in Hanover Co..VA At a dinner lecture I attended some decades ago, one of the noted archivists of the Library of Virginia gave a talk, and some of the statements he made were eye-openers. One which stands out in my mind: As the Confederates evacuated Richmond at the end of the Civil War, they torched the wharves on the James River. As fires are wont to do, this one got out of control. The Hanover Co. records, being of great historic interest, had been ordered to the Archives in Richmond, and they mostly burned. Alas! How many of our colonials may have owned land in that BIG county. A few of the records remain, and some years ago, a devoted genealogist, Rosalie Edith Davis abstracted and compiled this: Hanover County, Virginia Court Records 1733-1735: Deeds, Wills and Inventories. Until about two years ago or so, Mrs. Davis resided outside St. Louis MO in a place called Manchester, MO. She advertised in the Genealogical Helper and I ordered a great many of her books--paperbacks and reasonably priced. Some months ago, I discovered Mrs. Davis was not answering her e-mails. Some kind person gave me another URL, but, dummy that I am [poor health also] I neglected to note the URL. Unfortunately, the Family History Library in Salt Lake City does not have these booklets which are well abstracted. Perhaps the Allen County [Indiana] Public Library in Fort Wayne has them, and perhaps a library or two in Missouri may have them. They are rather critical for anyone who had colonials in Hanover Co., part of which became Louisa Co., and which county records Mrs. Davis had also abstracted and published. I highly recommend anyone doing research in Virginia learn how to use the Virginia Land Patents [which title includes the words Northern Neck Land Grants] on the Library of Virginia website. If your local or nearby library has old volumes published some decades ago by the Library of Virginia and entitled Cavaliers and Pioneers, take a look at the indexes at the back of these books, and note how many topics there are: not only surnames, but watercourses [creeks, branches, fords, etc] and counties, etc. and see what names ring a bell with you. The counties divided all the time. Part of Henrico Co.. one of the original counties, became Goochland. Hanover Co. later divided into Louisa Co., where the records are largely intact and which Mrs Davis also abstracted--and published. If you can find land patents for *suspect* Harrises, do this: Note not only the county, but the date, the neighbors, the watercourse [almost every patent mentions a watercourse; crops, people, animals need water, and the watercourses provided transportation, especially when the barrels of tobacco were rolled down to the transporting boat.] In separate e-mails, I will share with you some of the records pertaining to Harrises. Due to later records of some of the [perhaps linked]families I collect those persons also. After all, the women in these families are the ones who reproduced younger Harrises, and we need to know who those neighbors were. They probably became in-laws. E.W.Wallace ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

St.Louis Co. [MO], [not city of St Louis] has the book collection of the National Genealogical Society.  Whether Mrs. Davis's one book on Hanover Co.VA [one surviving book of the colonial era] and her several books on Louisa Co. VA [formed from Hanover Co.] and Fredericksville Parish are in the NGS collection, I cannot say. I suggest you use your internet search skills to check out Mrs Rosalie Edith Davis's books.  She has maps and her abstracts are good--better than some authors whom I am reading now of other places and other times! Thanks, Leon.  Share other info with us, as you see fit.  There is ALWAYS something we need to know about our ancestors--and sources useful in that hunt! E.W.Wallace ________________________________ From: Leon O Kearns <lokearns@marktwain.net> To: EVELYN WALLACE <hdanw@verizon.net>; Harris Hunters <Harris-Hunters@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Some Early Harris & Overton Males in Hanover Co..VA Evelyn, Check out this site http://www.slcl.org/books-emedia-and-more. This is the St Louis County library and they have 12 of Ms Davis's books concerning Virginia. St. Louis County Library Headquarters Tier 5 (top floor) 1640 S. Lindbergh Blvd. St. Louis, MO 63131 314-994-3300, ext. 2070 There may be an interlibrary loan policy for out of state loans. One would have to call and check and check with their library to see if the two can make this loan. Leon O Kearns Sec Shelby County Missouri Historical Society Charter Member Daviess Co Mo Genealogy Society -----Original Message----- From: EVELYN WALLACE Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:01 PM To: Harris Hunters Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Some Early Harris & Overton Males in Hanover Co..VA At a dinner lecture I attended some decades ago, one of the noted archivists of the Library of Virginia gave a talk, and some of the statements he made were eye-openers. One which stands out in my mind:  As the Confederates evacuated Richmond at the end of the Civil War, they torched the wharves on the James River.  As fires are wont to do, this one got out of control.  The Hanover Co. records, being of great historic interest, had been ordered to the Archives in Richmond, and they mostly burned.  Alas!  How many of our colonials may have owned land in that BIG county. A few of the records remain, and some years ago, a devoted genealogist, Rosalie Edith Davis abstracted and compiled this:  Hanover County, Virginia Court Records 1733-1735:  Deeds, Wills and Inventories. Until about two years ago or so, Mrs. Davis resided outside St. Louis MO in a place called Manchester, MO.  She advertised in the Genealogical Helper and I ordered a great many of her books--paperbacks and reasonably priced. Some months ago, I discovered Mrs. Davis was not answering her e-mails. Some kind person gave me another URL, but, dummy that I am [poor health also] I neglected to note the URL.  Unfortunately, the Family History Library in Salt Lake City does not have these booklets which are well abstracted.  Perhaps the Allen County [Indiana] Public Library in Fort Wayne has them, and perhaps a library or two in Missouri may have them.  They are rather critical for anyone who had colonials in Hanover Co., part of which became Louisa Co., and which county records Mrs. Davis had also abstracted and published. I highly recommend anyone doing research in Virginia learn how to use the Virginia Land Patents [which title includes the words Northern Neck Land Grants] on the Library of Virginia website.  If your local or nearby library has old volumes published some decades ago by the Library of Virginia and entitled Cavaliers and Pioneers, take a look at the indexes at the back of these books, and note how many topics there are:  not only surnames, but watercourses [creeks, branches, fords, etc] and counties, etc. and see what names ring a bell with you.  The counties divided all the time.  Part of Henrico Co.. one of the original counties, became Goochland.  Hanover Co. later divided into Louisa Co., where the records are largely intact and which Mrs Davis also abstracted--and published. If you can find land patents for *suspect* Harrises, do this:  Note not only the county, but the date, the neighbors, the watercourse [almost every patent mentions a watercourse; crops, people, animals need water, and the watercourses provided transportation, especially when the barrels of tobacco were rolled down to the transporting boat.] In separate e-mails, I will share with you some of the records pertaining to Harrises.  Due to later records of some of the [perhaps linked]families I collect those persons also.  After all, the women in these families are the ones who reproduced younger Harrises, and we need to know who those neighbors were.  They probably became in-laws. E.W.Wallace ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Evelyn, I would still like to exchange information and try to figure out how we are related, your response back to me really didn't answer that question. I have heard of a way with the family finder test that if you can identify the relationship you can catalog chromozone blocks per family line and for sure you can id others that are also from the same line. I show related to you, I do not know if it is the Harris line or not. Dupuy was also one of the hits according to Pat. This is why I did not email Harris hunters directly. I figured this was more of a private converstation, not that it matters really. You are wonderful strong in Genealogy and all you said is well taken. But I am trying to figure out how I can use the DNA testing, specifically Family finder to sure up that process. I work and do not have a lot of time to write or even do Genealogy even though I have the bug. I will eventually answer some the Harris hints you all have sent. Are you interested in trying to figure out which line we are related from on Family finder? Randy Montgomery > Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:06:48 -0700 > From: hdanw@verizon.net > To: lokearns@marktwain.net; PatCLARE@aol.com; Harris-Hunters@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Some Early Harris & Overton Males in Hanover Co..VA > > St.Louis Co. [MO], [not city of St Louis] has the book collection of the National Genealogical > Society. > > > Whether Mrs. Davis's one book on Hanover Co.VA [one surviving book of the colonial era] and her several books on Louisa Co. VA [formed from Hanover Co.] and Fredericksville Parish are in the NGS collection, I cannot say. > > I suggest you use your internet search skills to check out Mrs Rosalie Edith Davis's books. She has maps and her abstracts are good--better than some authors whom I am reading now of other places and other times! > > Thanks, Leon. Share other info with us, as you see fit. There is ALWAYS something we need to know about our ancestors--and sources useful in that hunt! > > > E.W.Wallace > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Leon O Kearns <lokearns@marktwain.net> > To: EVELYN WALLACE <hdanw@verizon.net>; Harris Hunters <Harris-Hunters@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 1:47 PM > Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Some Early Harris & Overton Males in Hanover Co..VA > > Evelyn, > > Check out this site http://www.slcl.org/books-emedia-and-more. This is the St Louis County library and they have 12 of Ms Davis's books concerning Virginia. > St. Louis County Library Headquarters > Tier 5 (top floor) > 1640 S. Lindbergh Blvd. > St. Louis, MO 63131 > 314-994-3300, ext. 2070 > There may be an interlibrary loan policy for out of state loans. One would have to call and check and check with their library to see if the two can make this loan. > > > Leon O Kearns > Sec Shelby County Missouri Historical Society > Charter Member Daviess Co Mo Genealogy Society > > -----Original Message----- From: EVELYN WALLACE > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:01 PM > To: Harris Hunters > Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Some Early Harris & Overton Males in Hanover Co..VA > > At a dinner lecture I attended some decades ago, one of the noted archivists of the Library of Virginia gave a talk, and some of the statements he made were eye-openers. > > One which stands out in my mind: As the Confederates evacuated Richmond at the end of the Civil War, they torched the wharves on the James River. As fires are wont to do, this one got out of control. The Hanover Co. records, being of great historic interest, had been ordered to the Archives in Richmond, and they mostly burned. Alas! How many of our colonials may have owned land in that BIG county. > > > A few of the records remain, and some years ago, a devoted genealogist, Rosalie Edith Davis abstracted and compiled this: Hanover County, Virginia Court Records 1733-1735: Deeds, Wills and Inventories. > > Until about two years ago or so, Mrs. Davis resided outside St. Louis MO in a place called Manchester, MO. She advertised in the Genealogical Helper and I ordered a great many of her books--paperbacks and reasonably priced. Some months ago, I discovered Mrs. Davis was not answering her e-mails. Some kind person gave me another URL, but, dummy that I am [poor health also] I neglected to note the URL. Unfortunately, the Family History Library in Salt Lake City does not have these booklets which are well abstracted. Perhaps the Allen County [Indiana] Public Library in Fort Wayne has them, and perhaps a library or two in Missouri may have them. They are rather critical for anyone who had colonials in Hanover Co., part of which became Louisa Co., and which county records Mrs. Davis had also abstracted and published. > > I highly recommend anyone doing research in Virginia learn how to use the Virginia Land Patents [which title includes the words Northern Neck Land Grants] on the Library of Virginia website. If your local or nearby library has old volumes published some decades ago by the Library of Virginia and entitled Cavaliers and Pioneers, take a look at the indexes at the back of these books, and note how many topics there are: not only surnames, but watercourses [creeks, branches, fords, etc] and counties, etc. and see what names ring a bell with you. The counties divided all the time. Part of Henrico Co.. one of the original counties, became Goochland. Hanover Co. later divided into Louisa Co., where the records are largely intact and which Mrs Davis also abstracted--and published. > > If you can find land patents for *suspect* Harrises, do this: Note not only the county, but the date, the neighbors, the watercourse [almost every patent mentions a watercourse; crops, people, animals need water, and the watercourses provided transportation, especially when the barrels of tobacco were rolled down to the transporting boat.] > > In separate e-mails, I will share with you some of the records pertaining to Harrises. Due to later records of some of the [perhaps linked]families I collect those persons also. After all, the women in these families are the ones who reproduced younger Harrises, and we need to know who those neighbors were. They probably became in-laws. > > E.W.Wallace > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message