pat   again, trying to learn who our harris families were and to sort  this all out in regard to them in this amelia/ lunenburg cos, va area is proving to also be very involved and confusing as well.   i have not myself focused on this amelia co, va area, although  i am aware that others in our harris dna group 8 have.   the info does indicate,  again, that like this richard harris, this was hans hendrick, II, who was also in this same flatt creek  area of amelia co, va.   again, this was the same hendrick/ osborne family, etc, also  involved with my mackerness goode, sr and william harris, sr/ frances goode not just there in lunenburg co, va, but also on  into laurens co, sc, which i have cited and talked about  previously.   again, although i cannot say this for sure, this appears to be the  harris/ goode/ jefferson/ osborne line also tracing back to henrico co, va but whether this richard harris was related to this  same harris line and family or not,  i cannot say or identify him.   again, although my william harris, sr/ frances goode and my mackerness goode, sr is shown to have been involved with  these same families i.e the hendrick and osbornes, and even  the jeffersons, etc, this, as our harris dna shows, is not my  harris line and family.   here, again, is some of this info showing, again, as i say that hans hendrick, II, was also in this same flatt creek area of amelia co, va and his amelia co, va will showing that he had daughters:  sarah hendrick goode and elizabeth hendrick osborne.   again, this was this same hans hendrick, II's son, hans hendrick, III, who married margaret wynn, daughter of col william wynn/ frances reade, who also moved to laurens co, sc and who continued to be involved there with my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers and his brother-in-law, patrick cunningham, per the laurens co, sc deeds i have posted previously and talked about.   again, the same henry isbell, who was also involved with hans hendrick,II, in this flatt creek area of amelia co, va was the same henry isbell, who witnessed the 1761 lunenburg co, va deed wherein john gilliam, the elder, and his son, robert gilliam of prince george co, va sold the land on twitty's creek to our edward harris, sr, whose sons stephen harris and edward harris, jr also moved to laurens co, sc and whose harris descendants are a harris group 8 dna match.   so, again, this is really involved re these connections, etc.   2.      Hance Hendrick II  (c1690s? - 1773)   Hance Hendrick “Jr.” is mentioned as a landowner in a 1718  patent in King William County[24].  He evidently acquired the land by deed, now lost.  As mentioned above, a 1725 patent in King William to “Hance Hendrick Jun.” was entered the same day as Hance  Hendrick Sr.’s, for land in the same neighborhood.   Hance Jr.’s land was apparently on the part of Boot  Swamp that became Caroline County.  On 16 June 1738, as Hance Hendrick of Caroline County, he  patented 400 acres on Mayes Branch of Flatt Creek in  Amelia County[25].  By 25 July 1746 he was Hance  Hendrick “Senior”, when he filed two patents[26] for  another 200 acres on Mayes Branch of Flatt Creek and 304 acres on Flatt Creek in Amelia County.  The patent for 304 acres was described as “beginning at his son Hans Hendrick’s corner hickory”.  Hance Hendrick Jr. (the 3rd) had  patented this land the same day[27].   He was married  to a woman named Rachel, possibly Rachel Hurt, at least by 1754 when she relinquished dower to his sale  of land to his brother.  He left a will in Amelia County  dated 20 January 1773[28].  He named his wife Rachel, and two sons:  Hance (the 3rd) and John.  Daughters named in the will were  Anne Hendrick, Elizabeth Osborne and Sarah Goode.   The will was witnessed by Benjamin Hendrick  (presumably his brother) and Obadiah and John Hendrick (presumably sons of Benjamin or Hance) as  well as Thomas Osborne (presumably Elizabeth’s husband).  Benjamin Hendrick and Thomas Osborne  were named executors   again, i am also still trying to learn and/ or figure out myself------- was this sarah hendrick goode, daughter of this hans hendrick, II,  the wife of my mackerness goode, sr or his son, our  mackerness goode, jr and if not, who was she?   again, this was my mackerness goode, sr, wife, sarah, who sold land to reps osborne, who was part of this same  hendrick/ osborne family, per the following lunenburg co, va  deed.   i know that this was my mackerness goode, sr because he  signed his name with a mark and our mackerness goode, jr  did sign his name.   lunenburg co, va deed book 3,  page 156, 1752,   mackerness goode of lunenburg to reps osborne of  same for 5 pds a certain tract of land of 165 acres on  both sides of the bluestone creek, part of a larger  patent to mackerness goode. signed:  mackerness goode, with a mark. no witnesses.  sarah, wife of  mackerness goode, relinquished her right of dower.    to be continued:   belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8--------26910         --- On Tue, 9/23/08, Patricia Seaver <[email protected]> wrote: From: Patricia Seaver <[email protected]> Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Richard Harris Amelia Co, VA To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 11:50 AM Does anyone know where the Great Fork is located in Amelia Co? Amelia Co. Land Patent Book 21-294: Richard Harris and Richard Weatherford, 800a, Amelia Co., both sides Flatt Cr., bounded by Edward Jones, Watson & the Great Fork (p. 295) 30 Jun 1743. (William Lindsay Hopkins, "Virginia Land Patent Book 21, Pages 1-674 (1743)" in MAGAZINE OF VIRGINIA GENEALOGY, Vol. 26, No 3, August 1988, p. 222) Amelia Co. VA Deed Book 2 p. 220 Deed. Richard Harris & Richard (X) Wetherford to Samuel Martin d. 17 jan 1745 14£ wit: George Currie & Benjamin Hawkins. 200 a s/s Flatt Creek, bounded in part by Foster’s cor. & line & a branch rec. 17 jan 1745 (McConnaughey) Amelia co, VA Deed Book 2 p. 238 Deed of lease. Richard Harris of Amelia Co. & Richard Wetherford of Goochland Co. to George Foster of Raleigh Parish 16 jan 1745 5 shillings wit: George Currie & Benjamin Hawkins. 600a in two tracts: (1) 400a bounded in part by n/s Flatt Creek & the great fork; (2) 200a bounded in part by Edward Jones’ cor & line & Flatt Creek rec 17 jan 1745 (McConnaughey) Amelia Co. Deed Book 3 p. 232 deed George Foster to Edward Silva 16 jun 1749 3000 lbs. tobacco 200a adj. Joseph Ward’s upper cor. on the river, lines of Matthew Harris, Osborne & Townes, a branch, Richard Booker’s cor. on the river & the river. no wit. Rec. 16 jun 1749 (another deed places Matthew Harris in the vicinity of Sandy Creek, between Flatt Creek and the present-day line between Amelia Co. and Prince Edward & Cumberland Counties). ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message