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    1. [HARRIS-HUNTERS] re harris/ gresham family
    2. belva cauthen
    3. another clue that this william harris of goochland co, va and his sons, sherwood harris, gilliam harris, may have been the son of our william harris/ mary giles' brother, edward harris, are these gresham connections not only with this william harris and families there in goochland co, va, but  also this was the same gresham family also involved with edward harris' family in amelia co, va.   this info in the gresham family can be found on line:   EDWARD SR BUYS LAND IN NEW KENT CO Va IN 1687. IF THERE IS AN EDWARD SR THEN THERE IS AN EDWARD JR. EDWARD, GEORGE, THOMAS AND JOHN HEAD OF HOUSEHOLDS IN KING AND QUEEN CO VA IN 1704.     EDWARD AND THOMAS ARE SURELY CHILDREN OF THE ORIGINAL EDWARD FROM ENGLAND AND THIS EDWARD IS EDWARD JR. THE FIRST BORN OF EDWARD SR (ORIGINAL IMMIGRANT) IS ALMOST SURELY EDWARD JR. THERE ARE NO OTHER GRESHAM HEAD OF HOUSEHOLDS IN VA AT THIS TIME BECAUSE NONE OF THE GRESHAM CHILDREN ARE OLD ENOUGH TO BE HEAD OF HOUSEHOLDS.    THOMAS WAS BORN ABOUT 1660 AND EDWARD JR PROBABLY ABOUT 1655-57 BUT HE COULD BE OLDER. THOMAS' CHILDREN WERE CHARLES b 1687, THOMAS b 1689, JOHN b 1692, FRANCES b 1695 AND AMEY b 1700. NONE OF THESE ARE OLD ENOUGH TO BE HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD IN 1704 AND ARE NOT OLD ENOUGH TO BE FATHER TO EDWARD GRESHAM OF AMELIA CO VA.    THE FACT THAT JOHN AND GEORGE HAD NO CHILDREN THAT WERE HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD 1704 PROBABLY MEANS THAT THEY WERE CHILDREN OF EDWARD JR AND NOT EDWARD THE ORIGINAL IMMIGRANT. ONE ENIGMATIC INDIVIDUAL WAS CHRISTOPHER GRESHAM. IN VOLUME III OF THE VA PATENT BOOKS (RESEARCHED BY LORETTA WRIGHT), THOMAS WARE PAID THOMAS GRESHAM AND CHRISTOPHER GRESHAM MONEY OWED, IN 1702. THIS AT LEAST LINKS CHRISTOPHER WITH A THOMAS GRESHAM THOUGH NOT NECESSARILY EDWARDS BROTHER.. > EDWARD JR AND THOMAS (SONS OF THE ORIGINAL IMMIGRANT) BOTH SEEM TO HAVE MARRIED OR AT LEAST HAD CHILDREN LATE IN LIFE. I THINK THERE JUST WERE NOT ENOUGH (OR SUITABLE) WOMEN AVAILABLE IN THE LATE 1600's IN VIRGINIA.      IF EDWARD JR WAS INDEED BORN BEFORE THOMAS THEN ONE OF EDWARD JR's CHILDREN, JOHN OR GEORGE IS OUR ANCESTOR BECAUSE IF THOMAS (SON OF ORIGINAL IMMIGRANT) IS YOUNGER THAN EDWARD JR, THEN EDWARD JR WOULD HAVE TO HAVE BEEN AROUND 60 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER AND THOSE CHILDREN OTHER THAN THOMAS' CHILDREN SURELY BELONGED TO JOHN OR GEORGE. THIS WOULD PUT TROY'S GEORGE (MARRIED SARAH) AND EDWARD (FATHER OF ARCHIBALD & DAVIS) SR's FATHER AS BROTHERS OR MORE PROBABLY FIRST COUSINS. MOST IMPORTANTLY SINCE THERE WERE NO OTHER HEADS OF HOUSEHOLD OTHER THAN JOHN & GEORGE, THEN ANY GRESHAMS BORN AROUND THAT TIME (1700) ARE THEIR CHILDREN.     GEORGE GRESHAM BORN ca 1707 m SARAH MAY 10, 1732, STAYED IN KING AND QUEEN CO BECAUSE HIS CHILDREN WERE BORN THERE.. HE IS SURELY THE SON OF THE ORIGINAL GEORGE. IT SEEMS THAT ALL JOHN GRESHAM'S CHILDREN LEFT KING & QUEEN CO AND INDEED JOHN MAY HAVE LEFT BEFORE ANY OF HIS CHILDREN WERE OLD ENOUGH TO LEAVE HOME. CANDIDATES FOR JOHN'S CHILDREN ARE MARY GRESHAM LEE b 1705 LEAVES WILL. IT WAS EXECUTED BY HER BROTHER JOHN GRESHAM. MARY AND JOHN WERE CHILDREN OF JOHN OR GEORGE AND JOHN WAS THE BETTER BET. MARY AND HER HUSBAND RICHARD HENRY LEE MOVED TO GOOCHLAND BEFORE THEIR SECOND CHILD WAS BORN.   ******************************************************************** JAMES GRESHAM b 1704 LIVED IN GOOCHLAND AT THIS SAME TIME AND THEY MAY HAVE MOVED THERE TO BE CLOSE TO KIN. JAMES GRESHAM'S CHILDREN ARE WILLIAM, THOMAS, JAMES AND JOHN. ***********************************************************************    ANOTHER CANDIDATE FOR JOHN'S CHILD IS ROBERT GRESHAM. EDWARD AND ROBERT GRESHAM LIVED IN AMELIA CO VA. ON HARRIS CREEK BY GREEN FAMILY. ROBERT MAY BE THE BEST BET TO BE EDWARD'S FATHER BECAUSE THEY LIVED SO CLOSE TOGETHER AND HE DID NOT GO TO ORANGE NC PROBABLY BECAUSE HE DIED. THEREFORE WE ARE LOOKING FOR GRESHAMS BORN AROUND +1705. THERE IS ANOTHER GRESHAM FAMILY IN GOOCHLAND AT THIS TIME. THEY WERE DECENDED FROM JOHN SON OF THOMAS SON OF THE ORIGINAL IMMIGRANT.     ONE CHILD WAS JAMES GRESHAM b 1746 IN GOOCHLAND VA, DIED JUNE O1, 1807 IN WILKES CO GA. HE MARRIED 1ST TABITHA MARSHAL. HE MARRIED 2ND MARY CHRISTIAN DEC 19, 177O IN , GOOCHLAND VA. HIS CHILDRENWERE: MARY GRESHAM b GOOCHLAND VA, m WILLIAM THOMAS , abt 1791; ELIZABETH GRESHAM, b VA, m ISAAC LANGDON: JANE GRESHAM, b VA; CHARLES W. GRESHAM, b VA; THOMAS GRESHAM, b VA;     to be continued:   belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8--------26910

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