pat posted that this william harris/ henrietta baker reads like a harris dna group 8 deed:   > This deed walks and talks like a Group 8 Harris, but it is very difficult to sort out the apparent multiple Henrietta Harrises.   i am trying to understand why you say this?   again, the william harris, jr, who obtained this 1725, 1500 acre grant, is said to have been william harris, jr, son of captain william harris/ temperance overton.   this deed does show that this william harris, who was the one who obtained this  1725, 1500 acre grant adjacent george woodruff, the arnolds on elk creek of overton fork, and which was the same area as this horsepen swamp, was deceased by 1759, or earlier, when his son, this william harris/ henrietta sold this land in 1759 to martin baker.   we are having controversy in our harris dna group 8 whether my william harris, sr/ frances goode's father, who i believe was william harris/ judith hudson and this william harris of goochland co, va was the son of our william harris/ mary giles?   neither of these would have been either this william harris, who obtained this 1500 acre grant in 1725 or his son, this william harris/ henrietta here who sold this land to martin baker.   so, i am trying to understand and to figure how this william harris, per this 1500 acre grant, and his son, this william harris/ henrietta, would have been related to us and part of our harris dna group 8?   i can certainly agree that we have yet to understand or to get all of this right but who are all of these harris dna group 6 participants and who say they are descending from captain william harris/ temperance overton and his son, this william harris, jr, who is said to have obtained this 1725, 1500 acre grant on overton fork of elk creek?     Louisa Co., VA DB B-298-300] 24 Apr 1759 William Harris of Fredericksville Par., Louisa Co., and Hennerittah, his wife, to Martin Baker of St. Martin's Par., Hanover 325 pds currt. money. 350 acres in Fredericksville Par; part of a tract of 1,500 acres granted by patent 24 Mar 1725 to one William Harris by records of Williamsburg and by sd. Harris, who was the father of sd. William Harris, gave unto his son in his Last Will and Testament recorded in Hanover Co. Land lyeth on north fork of the Little River ... at the mouth of Horsepen Swamp, up sd. Swamp to Benjamin Bibb's line ... near the head of the old mill pon(d) crossing the River south. Wm. Harris Henrita Harris Wit: David Smith, Thos. Rice., Jos Goodman. 24 Apr 1759 acknowledged by William Harris and Renrita, his wife who declared her consent.    again, this william harris/ henrietta baker, son of the william harris, who obtained this 1500 acre grant, and who is selling this land to martin baker in 1759 is/ was not my william harris, sr/ frances goode, who was in lunenburg co, va by 1746 and who, again, i believe was the son, william, of william harris/ judith hudson, who were in brunswick co, va by 1743, and he was also not the william harris, who was in goochland co, va, who, again, some think, and malcolm harris also wrote, was the son of our william harris/ mary giles.   Louisa County Court 12th day of September 1743, page 73, An Indenture made between William Harris of Brunswick County of the one part and Stephen Harris of Saint Martin’s Parish in the County of Hanover of the other part concerning sixty two acres of land lying in the parish of Fredericksville in this County with a Memorandum of Livery of Seisin and Receipt thereon endorsed ws this day in open Court proved to be the act and deed of the said William Harris by the Oaths of James Waddy, Richard Donalson and John Adams witnesses thereto and admitted to Record. Louisa County Order Book, 1742-1743, page 41-42     p. 243-5, 11/2/1757. wm. HARRIS of St. John's Par, Goochland CO to Charles RICE of Hanover CO, 50 A & plan. in Fred. Parish, part of greater tract Ed. HARRIS sold to wm WADKINS, Capt. DABNEY's corner. Sig: wm.HARRIs. Wit: Wm. TERRILL, Israel BURNLEY, Charles PEARS, Thos. EAST   so, again, i am trying to understand why you say this william harris/ henrietta, would have been part of our harris dna group 8?   to be continued:   belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8-------26910