in fact, i also have more to say about these same connections re both my william harris, sr/ frances goode and reuben harris with the same or related john jefferies.   again, both my william harris, sr/ frances goode and my william harris/ judith hudson were involved with the will and estate of john wilborn from 1757-1762 there in lunenburg co, va and, again, whereas john wilborn lived in this woodpecker creek area near my william harris/ judith hudson and his son thomas wilborn continued to live there near them, it was my william harris, sr/ frances goode who was the executor of the will and estate of john wilborn.   the lunenburg co, va records also show that john jefferies was one of the appraisers of john wilborn's estate:   in 1758, the estate of john wilborn in lunenburg co, va was appraised for the court by john camp; john jefferies; and richard swepson.    again, per halifax co, va deeds posted a number of times now, this was my william harris, sr/ frances goode, who sold this wynn creek land to john camp, which, again, had been a 1750 survey for my william harris, sr (my william harris/ judith hudson) and my william harris, jr (my william harris, sr/ frances goode) which became a patent to my william harris, sr/ frances goode in 1758.   here again, to follow, is one of these deeds re my william harris, sr/ frances goode to john camp and also this 1750 dodson survey.   again, my focus has been on lunenburg and mecklenburg co, va, although, again, as these lunenburg co, va tithe lists show, my william harris, sr/ frances goode and his father, my william harris/ judith hudson started out in cornelius cargill's district, which became halifax co, va and deeds show they maintained some property and/ or contact with the families also of halifax co, va.   this is  indicated, then, to have been also my william harris, sr/ frances goode, who sold land to john jefferies per the following deed or excerpt from this halifax co, va deed and which is indicated to have been in this same wynn creek area per the land my william harris, sr/ frances goode sold to john camp.   19-F Halifax/Scottsburg William Harris, Sr. & Jr. 1750 820a Wynns Cr. & Powels br.  Neighbors & near vicinity:  Margery Sizemore, James Sizemore, George Sizemore, Henry Sizemore, William Sizemore, Robert Wooding, William Williamson, Joseph Shaw,William McHenry, Richard Powell, Anthony Griffin, Buckner Stith, John Powel, Benj. Hall, Andrew Wade Note:  Anthony Griffin is mentioned in the 1752/1753 will of Peter Hudson     Halifax Co, VA Deed Book 5 p. 393 14 feb 1765 William Harris of Lunenburg co. to John Camp of same, for £30, 420 acres, part of 820 acres formerly granted by patent to William harris, on both sides of a branch of Wynns Cr. called the Bufflow bead, beg. at Margery Sizemore’s cor. thence south...the Bear Br. of Bufflow Bed... Signed William Harris Wit: Edward Wade, Andrew Wade, Jeremiah keen, Thomas FargusonRecorded 20 jun 1765     here, again, also is my frances goode harris' relinquishment of her dower rights to this wynn creek land:   Halifax Co, VA Deed Book 2 Page 72. 20 August in the 33rd year of our reign. Commision to Matthew Marable, Richd Witton, Henry Deloney, John Speed, or any two, to take the relinquishment of dower of Frances Harris of Lunenburg County, wife of William Harris and certify same. Signed: Geo. Currie CHC. Halifax Co, VA Deed Book 2 4 December 1758 Frances Harris relinquished her right of dower in a certain tract of land conveyed by her husband William Harris to John Camp. Signed: Mat. Marable, John Speed. (marginal note, This dedimus is so recorded here by mistake. Not indexed in Halifax County).   Halifax Co, VA Plea Book No. 3 December court 1759 (3) p. 2 A deed from William Harris to John Jeffris was proved by the witnesses thereto and ordered recorded   in fact, as shown, john jefferies also sold land to john camp and this may have been the same land my william harris, sr/ frances goode sold to john jefferies.    Halifax Co, VA Deed Book 4 p. 11 1 jun 1762 John Jeffries of Lunenburg Co. to John Camp of same, for £80, 420 acres on Bear Br., granted by patent (torn)...beg. at Margery Sizemore’s Corner...crossing Bear Br. and Bufflow Bed...All houses, gardens... Signed: John Jeffries Wit: Robert Wooding, Thos. Cobbs, Robert Wade, Jr. Richd. Brown Recorded 17 jun 1762   then, again, this is also shown to have been the same or related john jefferies also involved in the estate of reuben harris there in mecklenburg co, va.   Mecklenburg County November Court 1830 Susannah U. HARRIS......plaintiff against John S. Jeffries and Thomas B. Puryear execs of Reuben HARRIS dec'd and Patsey Puryear wife of said Thomas B. Puryear....Defendants)  we are dealing many times with lost records, destroyed records, and records that were never kept.   also, every deed and every document we do find, including wills and estate papers, etc, are still subject to someones interpretation as to what this deed or document does mean and who exactly does that deed and/ or document refer to.   the issue is not that we speculate and interpret but whether we speculate and interpret accurately and get it right.   we are also many times dealing with threads and pieces of info and, again, the issue is whether these threads and pieces of info we are looking at tie into other things and make sense or whether they just dangle there and/ or shred and go no where.     belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8--------26910