I have a question that I need help with. I have in my line that Temperance Harris (@1730), the daughter of William Harris (1700) and Elizabeth Burnett (1710) was either married to John Hope (1725) and had a son Benjamin Hope, who is my ancestor or she was married to a Samuel Baker (1716). I cannot seem to find any definitive answer to this. Most of the married dates that have her marrying Samuel Baker are around 1738, which would mean she was only 8. The marriage date to John Hope is 1746, with Benjamin being born in 1765. I would appreciate any help on this. Thank you! Mary Lyn Paolella paleyella@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Pam Stone <pamstone@cfl.rr.com> To: 'EVELYN WALLACE' <hdanw@verizon.net>; harris-hunters <harris-hunters@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, May 26, 2012 8:17 pm Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Tide Water Virginia Families - Digitized Book on Ancestry.com Hi, all you Harrises, I am pretty amazed that my friend, Virginia Lee Hutchison Harris' work has already been bought by Ancestry (the monster that is sucking up all the documentation of genealogy on the Internet) from her son. Virginia's works are the same books I paid a ton of money for, and that I am citing as one of the references for the descendant lines of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris (son of William & Temperance Overton Harris, and the brother of Robert & Mourning Glenn Harris.) Pam -----Original Message----- From: harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of EVELYN WALLACE Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 3:44 PM To: kharris@psych-science.com; harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Tide Water Virginia Families - Digitized Book on Ancestry.com Thanks for the URL for the Tide Water Virginia Families. http://search.ancestry.com/search/DB.aspx?dbid=49380 As explained by the author, not too many families of the women in her pedigree are included, but here and there one can pick up a family which is associated with many of our Harris families--Dumas, Winston, etc. I don't have enough time today to plow through this wonderful digitization - there must be a surname index -- but we must remember the female Harrises of Virginia when we can and look for the names of the families into whom these ladies married--or remarried. The book is referred to below. Remember, the widows did not stay unmarried for long. Someone had to help run the plantation/farm/whatever land the widow now held (she was entitled to only a third), and she frequently remarried--no doubt a neighbor, sometimes a widower. That widower needed a helpmate also. (Some of the men whom I study had three wives, the second one frequently a poorer neighbor girl, the third perhaps a widow with a child or two (but perhaps with an inheritance.) The Harris family which is featured in the cited work is not with whom I am familiar. The ones I know were the ones clustered along the Pamunkey River (called other names, no doubt) in what was to be Hanover Co. (a burned county, part of which became Louisa Co., where the early records frequently refer to residents of Hanover Co.) But one ignores the records of the adjoining counties at one's peril. Thanks for bringing up this digitized book. Any other recommendations? I use google.books a lot. Sometimes there is only an excerpt, but... E.W.Wallace ________________________________ From: K S Harris <kharris@psych-science.com> To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Tide Water Virginia Families Hi Dottie, Google Books has a snippet view, but the book is actually on Ancestry.com in its entirety, at http://search.ancestry.com/search/DB.aspx?dbid=49380 Some of the "Harris" family make up Chapter 16. Best, Keith On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Dottie Brentlinger < dottie.brentlinger@att.net> wrote: > Several years ago Keith Harris send me an excerpt from "Tide Water > Virginia Families" by Virginia Davis. The pages were about James > Harris son of Benjamin and Sarah Dumas Harris. I don't think this is > my Harris family but wonder if the book is on line. > > Dottie Brentlinger Harris DNA Study Group #6 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, all you Harrises, I am pretty amazed that my friend, Virginia Lee Hutchison Harris' work has already been bought by Ancestry (the monster that is sucking up all the documentation of genealogy on the Internet) from her son. Virginia's works are the same books I paid a ton of money for, and that I am citing as one of the references for the descendant lines of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris (son of William & Temperance Overton Harris, and the brother of Robert & Mourning Glenn Harris.) Pam -----Original Message----- From: harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of EVELYN WALLACE Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 3:44 PM To: kharris@psych-science.com; harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Tide Water Virginia Families - Digitized Book on Ancestry.com Thanks for the URL for the Tide Water Virginia Families.  http://search.ancestry.com/search/DB.aspx?dbid=49380 As explained by the author, not too many families of the women in her pedigree are included, but here and there one can pick up a family which is associated with many of our Harris families--Dumas, Winston, etc. I don't have enough time today to plow through this wonderful digitization - there must be a surname index -- but we must remember the female Harrises of Virginia when we can and look for the names of the families into whom these ladies married--or remarried.  The book is referred to below.  Remember, the widows did not stay unmarried for long.  Someone had to help run the plantation/farm/whatever land the widow now held (she was entitled to only a third), and she frequently remarried--no doubt a neighbor, sometimes a widower.  That widower needed a helpmate also.  (Some of the men whom I study had three wives, the second one frequently a poorer neighbor girl, the third perhaps a widow with a child or two (but perhaps with an inheritance.) The Harris family which is featured in the cited work is not with whom I am familiar.  The ones I know were the ones clustered along the Pamunkey River (called other names, no doubt) in what was to be Hanover Co. (a burned county, part of which became Louisa Co., where the early records frequently refer to residents of Hanover Co.)  But one ignores the records of the adjoining counties at one's peril. Thanks for bringing up this digitized book.  Any other recommendations?  I use google.books a lot. Sometimes there is only an excerpt, but... E.W.Wallace ________________________________ From: K S Harris <kharris@psych-science.com> To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Tide Water Virginia Families Hi Dottie, Google Books has a snippet view, but the book is actually on Ancestry.com in its entirety, at http://search.ancestry.com/search/DB.aspx?dbid=49380 Some of the "Harris" family make up Chapter 16. Best, Keith On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Dottie Brentlinger < dottie.brentlinger@att.net> wrote: > Several years ago Keith Harris send me an excerpt from "Tide Water > Virginia Families"  by Virginia Davis. The pages were about James > Harris son of Benjamin and Sarah Dumas Harris. I don't think this is > my Harris family but wonder if the book is on line. > > Dottie Brentlinger Harris DNA Study Group #6 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, all you Harris folks, I have to tell you all that, as a daughter of a really old family of Virginia [the Heywarton/Howerton line of Old Rappahannock/Essex Cos., VA, I have always been really disappointed with the lack of research on any descendants of the daughters of the various lines I have researched. Therefore, I have made it a special project of my own to record any marriages and descendants of whatever line I have researched, if it was in the records I had at hand. So I have recorded the daughters of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris, with their spouses and children, where I could find them, and they are included in this research. Here's the 16th installment of the Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris family of Hanover, Goochland & Louisa Cos., VA. I forgot to make note that John Ladd & Unity Harris (daughter of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris) announced their intention to marry at Cedar Creek meeting on October 13th, 1764, and John Harris and James Crew were appointed to represent Cedar Creek meeting at their marriage. John Ladd presented his certificate from the White Oak Swamp/Henrico Meeting. The couple was married at Cedar Creek the 11th day of November, 1764 (he was described as "of Charles City Co.", VA, and she was noted as the daughter of Benja Harris. Her brothers, Obediah & James, attended) [Brewer, op. cit., pp. 77, 78.] The couple moved to the White Oak Swamp, Henrico meeting, where they raised their children, as shown by their family record below. Pam ==================================== Wright, op. cit. p. 64: [FAMILY RECORDS] Children of John and Unity LADD: Guili, b. 11/3/1769 [Guillema, Guilelma, Guilielma] Rachel, b. 7/1/1771 [blank], b. 10/10/-- Elizabeth, b. 29/11/1772 Benjamin Harris, b. 18/6/1774 Margaret, b. 8/9/1776 Unity Smith, b. 8/7/1780 Mary, b. 9/10/1782 Sarah, b. 1/4/1785 John, b. 25/5/1787 John Ladd, father of the above, d. 20/3/1816. [Unity Harris Ladd was the daughter of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris. Guilielma is Latin for the name Willielma {or, in the more familiar Germanic naming tradition, Wilhemina.} The naming of this daughter may have come from the unknown Charles City Co. Ladd line, as it is not one from this Harris line, as far as I know.] ==================================== Brewer, op. cit. p. 140: 8/11/1783. Thomas PLEASANTS, Thomas TERRELL, James HARRIS, Samuel PARSONS & James HUNNICUTT are appointed overseers. [James, son of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] - p. 141: 10/1/1784. Obadiah HARRIS attended this meeting and produced a minute of concurrence from Deep River, North Carolina meeting. [Obediah, son of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris; note that Obediah had moved from the New Garden meeting to the Deep River meeting by this time {or Deep River had been formed from New Garden by this time.}] - p. 142: 8/5/1784. Representatives appointed by the preparative meeting: for Caroline Thomas TERRELL & Clark T. MOORMAN, for Cedar Creek Moses HARRIS & John HARRIS, for Jenito [Genito] Strangman HUTCHINS [HUTCHENS] & John BARNETT, who were present. - p. 142: 10/7/1784. Jeremiah HARRIS hath sold a Negro. Pleasant TERRELL, Samuel PARSONS & James HUNNICUTT appointed to treat with him. [Jeremiah, son of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] - p. 143: 11/9/1784. John HARRIS, Micajah CREW, Samuel PARSONS, Pleasant TERRELL, Moses HARRIS & James CREW to have the care & management of repairing this meeting house and providing a stove agreeable to the will of Elizabeth ELMORE. [The decedent, Elizabeth Harris Elmore was the younger daughter of John & Mary Stanley Harris, and the aunt of Moses Harris & John Harris. James Crew was the husband of Judith Harris, daughter of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris.] - p. 143: 9/10/1784. Pleasants TERRELL & Samuel PARSONS appointed to prepare a minute of disunion against Jeremiah HARRIS. - p. 144: 11/12/1784. Jeremiah HARRIS hath sold a slave which we believe to be iniquitous practice & contrary to our dicipline [sic]. This is to certify that we disown him. - ============================================ [END OF FILE] ============================================

And I'm sure folks must already have this 1914 book on the Harris line by Gideon Dowse Harris, but if not it can be downloaded or read online at: http://books.google.com/books/reader?id=SKRRAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&out put=reader&pg=GBS.PA3

Thank you Keith and thanks for sending me the pages the first time. Dottie Brentlinger -----Original Message----- From: harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of K S Harris Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 2:27 PM To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Tide Water Virginia Families Hi Dottie, Google Books has a snippet view, but the book is actually on Ancestry.com in its entirety, at http://search.ancestry.com/search/DB.aspx?dbid=49380 Some of the "Harris" family make up Chapter 16. Best, Keith On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Dottie Brentlinger < dottie.brentlinger@att.net> wrote: > Several years ago Keith Harris send me an excerpt from "Tide Water Virginia > Families" by Virginia Davis. The pages were about James Harris son of > Benjamin and Sarah Dumas Harris. I don't think this is my Harris family but > wonder if the book is on line. > > Dottie Brentlinger Harris DNA Study Group #6 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Several years ago Keith Harris send me an excerpt from "Tide Water Virginia Families" by Virginia Davis. The pages were about James Harris son of Benjamin and Sarah Dumas Harris. I don't think this is my Harris family but wonder if the book is on line. Dottie Brentlinger Harris DNA Study Group #6

Thanks for the URL for the Tide Water Virginia Families.  http://search.ancestry.com/search/DB.aspx?dbid=49380 As explained by the author, not too many families of the women in her pedigree are included, but here and there one can pick up a family which is associated with many of our Harris families--Dumas, Winston, etc. I don't have enough time today to plow through this wonderful digitization - there must be a surname index -- but we must remember the female Harrises of Virginia when we can and look for the names of the families into whom these ladies married--or remarried.  The book is referred to below.  Remember, the widows did not stay unmarried for long.  Someone had to help run the plantation/farm/whatever land the widow now held (she was entitled to only a third), and she frequently remarried--no doubt a neighbor, sometimes a widower.  That widower needed a helpmate also.  (Some of the men whom I study had three wives, the second one frequently a poorer neighbor girl, the third perhaps a widow with a child or two (but perhaps with an inheritance.) The Harris family which is featured in the cited work is not with whom I am familiar.  The ones I know were the ones clustered along the Pamunkey River (called other names, no doubt) in what was to be Hanover Co. (a burned county, part of which became Louisa Co., where the early records frequently refer to residents of Hanover Co.)  But one ignores the records of the adjoining counties at one's peril. Thanks for bringing up this digitized book.  Any other recommendations?  I use google.books a lot. Sometimes there is only an excerpt, but... E.W.Wallace ________________________________ From: K S Harris <kharris@psych-science.com> To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Tide Water Virginia Families Hi Dottie, Google Books has a snippet view, but the book is actually on Ancestry.com in its entirety, at http://search.ancestry.com/search/DB.aspx?dbid=49380 Some of the "Harris" family make up Chapter 16. Best, Keith On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Dottie Brentlinger < dottie.brentlinger@att.net> wrote: > Several years ago Keith Harris send me an excerpt from "Tide Water Virginia > Families"  by Virginia Davis. The pages were about James Harris son of > Benjamin and Sarah Dumas Harris. I don't think this is my Harris family but > wonder if the book is on line. > > Dottie Brentlinger Harris DNA Study Group #6 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Dottie, Google Books has a snippet view, but the book is actually on Ancestry.com in its entirety, at http://search.ancestry.com/search/DB.aspx?dbid=49380 Some of the "Harris" family make up Chapter 16. Best, Keith On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Dottie Brentlinger < dottie.brentlinger@att.net> wrote: > Several years ago Keith Harris send me an excerpt from "Tide Water Virginia > Families" by Virginia Davis. The pages were about James Harris son of > Benjamin and Sarah Dumas Harris. I don't think this is my Harris family but > wonder if the book is on line. > > Dottie Brentlinger Harris DNA Study Group #6 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Paula, I'm in group 2 also, my father descends from James Richardson Harris (b 1812, VA, d 1847 Williamson, TN). So you are back a bit farther than I. He had a brother named Reuben and his grandfather looks to be a John E Harris b abt 1753 d 1815. Do you have any reference to these names in your records? It sure would be nice to hook up to each other's lines. Thanks, Barb Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: Paula Wolkerstorfer <dwolkers@cybermesa.com> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 6:08 am Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Thanks to our researchers > Hi > > I am still trying to learn the parentage of Nathaniel Harris, Group > 2, born in VA in 1763 and m. to Martha Byars. I rarely read of > anyone in Group Two. > > Thank you. > > Paula Harris Wolkerstorfer > > On May 22, 2012, at 8:34 PM, PatCLARE@aol.com wrote: > > > I would like to thank our researchers who have submitted > important > > information to our list. > > > > > > > > Ann Gary, we appreciate your information on DNA line 3. > > > > Pam Stone, thank you for your material on Harris DNA line 6 with > the > > Benjamin Harris notes. > > > > Evelyn Wallace, thank you for your many contributions to our HH > list and > > your histories on Group 6. > > > > Glenn Gohr...many thanks for Harris Group 8 material. > > > > > > I can't list everyone, but thanks to all who have made this such > a great > > list. > > > > > > For information on our many different Harris families (now over > 50) > > please see > > > > Harrisdna.org > > > > go to results page. > > > > > > We should do a roll call for those people still searching for > their > > families. > > > > > > If you have a Harris line anywhere that you need help with, > please post > > your material to the list. We have a great group of helpful > people who > > may be able to assist you to find your families. > > > > If you don't get an answer or reply, please know that your > information will > > remain in the archives and somewhere down the road someone may > come along > > who has the material you need. > > > > Pat Harris > > Mitch Harris > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS- > HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS- > HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank You for your very kind words. I too want future Harris researchers to be able to find the documents they need. Pam, your help has been greatly appreciated by me. You are working on one documented branch of the family and I am working on the other documented branch. Putting our research together, we come up with a more complete picture of Group 6. I also want to thank Pat for her help in cross-referencing Group 6 and Group 8. Ira On May 25, 2012, at 7:31 PM, Pam Stone wrote: > Pat and everyone, > > Thank you for expressing appreciation of my little contributions to > the early history of the Harrises of Virginia (and other places over > the years...) > > My feeling is that I have spent years and years researching and > documenting various Harrises in many places, and I don't want > this work to be lost to any future generations that may need it. > > Yes, it has cost a lot of money to accumulate all of the documents > of so many Harrris lines. > > (So what? What is the use of spending all of this money, just > to have all of the paperwork you spent the money on thrown > into the landfill when you die?) > > When my grandchildren (or my great-great-grandchildren) (or > any of YOUR great-great-grandchildren) go looking for where they > came from, I want them to be able to find the documentation > they need. > > My personal Harris genealogical hero, who has NEVER held > back one iota of his research is Ira Harris III. > > So thanks to everyone, but especially, thank you, cousin > Ira! > > YOU are the one who started this entire free-sharing of > documentation thing on this list...And this is the ONLY > LIST who freely-shares their documents (at least some > of us do.) > > Thank you, IRA! > > Pam > > > -----Original Message----- > From: harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PatCLARE@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:35 PM > To: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Thanks to our researchers > > I would like to thank our researchers who have submitted important > information to our list. > > > > Ann Gary, we appreciate your information on DNA line 3. > > Pam Stone, thank you for your material on Harris DNA line 6 with the > Benjamin Harris notes. > > Evelyn Wallace, thank you for your many contributions to our HH list and > your histories on Group 6. > > Glenn Gohr...many thanks for Harris Group 8 material. > > > I can't list everyone, but thanks to all who have made this such a great > list. > > > For information on our many different Harris families (now over 50) > please see > > Harrisdna.org > > go to results page. > > > We should do a roll call for those people still searching for their > families. > > > If you have a Harris line anywhere that you need help with, please post > your material to the list. We have a great group of helpful people who > may be able to assist you to find your families. > > If you don't get an answer or reply, please know that your information will > remain in the archives and somewhere down the road someone may come along > who has the material you need. > > Pat Harris > Mitch Harris > . > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pat and everyone, Thank you for expressing appreciation of my little contributions to the early history of the Harrises of Virginia (and other places over the years...) My feeling is that I have spent years and years researching and documenting various Harrises in many places, and I don't want this work to be lost to any future generations that may need it. Yes, it has cost a lot of money to accumulate all of the documents of so many Harrris lines. (So what? What is the use of spending all of this money, just to have all of the paperwork you spent the money on thrown into the landfill when you die?) When my grandchildren (or my great-great-grandchildren) (or any of YOUR great-great-grandchildren) go looking for where they came from, I want them to be able to find the documentation they need. My personal Harris genealogical hero, who has NEVER held back one iota of his research is Ira Harris III. So thanks to everyone, but especially, thank you, cousin Ira! YOU are the one who started this entire free-sharing of documentation thing on this list...And this is the ONLY LIST who freely-shares their documents (at least some of us do.) Thank you, IRA! Pam -----Original Message----- From: harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PatCLARE@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:35 PM To: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Thanks to our researchers I would like to thank our researchers who have submitted important information to our list. Ann Gary, we appreciate your information on DNA line 3. Pam Stone, thank you for your material on Harris DNA line 6 with the Benjamin Harris notes. Evelyn Wallace, thank you for your many contributions to our HH list and your histories on Group 6. Glenn Gohr...many thanks for Harris Group 8 material. I can't list everyone, but thanks to all who have made this such a great list. For information on our many different Harris families (now over 50) please see Harrisdna.org go to results page. We should do a roll call for those people still searching for their families. If you have a Harris line anywhere that you need help with, please post your material to the list. We have a great group of helpful people who may be able to assist you to find your families. If you don't get an answer or reply, please know that your information will remain in the archives and somewhere down the road someone may come along who has the material you need. Pat Harris Mitch Harris . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am wondering if any of the Harris list members have contacted any Gilliam/Gillum (etc.) list members to try to ascertain where these connections originally started? And which Harris branch (or branches) seem to have connections with the Gilliams? Pam -----Original Message----- From: harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Richards Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:03 PM To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Harris and Gillam in Oregon I have a Gilliam family who settled here in Heppner and Morrow County, Oregon Their names are: Birdie, Cornelius, Earl, Eugene, Frank, Jackson E., Lou, Ona.  Colonel Cornelius was a native of North Carolina, and was part of a military group active during one of the indian wars. He was killed accidentally at Wells Springs, Morrow, Oregon while leading a group of men. He was 49 years old when killed 20, March, 1848. He was also a lay Baptist preacher. [This was after the Whitman massacre at Walla Walla, Oregon Territory (now in Washington state]. He was initially buried at Wells Springs and then his remains were returned to Polk County, Oregon. Several other Gilliam families moved from the Willamette Valley, where they had settled in the large emigrations of the 1840s, back east to this area in the late 1860s. One family began a mercantile in Heppner. The building is still there with the name "Gilliam" on the upper facade. It survived the Heppner 14, June, 1903 flood, due to a flash flood, that devastated the town and killed over 247 men, women and children. There was one JOHN J. HARRIS listed as being a victim of this flood, also listed in "HOMESTEADS AND HERITAGES", Author, Giles French are two other HARRIS names associated with this area. Clarence HARRIS, of IONE, who was killed in WWII, and in 1885 an M.C. HARRIS, who is listed as the editor of the "Riverside Enterprise" newspaper. At the time of the early settlers the whole of E. Oregon (until it's statehood in 1889) was listed as Wasco County, although slowly counties began to develop across E. Oregon. Although there are still Harris families listed in our phone book, I have no idea if they are related in any way....My family connections were in both Idaho, Nevada, California, as well as Oregon (where I was born and raised....and still here). Jane (Harris) Richards http://orgenweb.org/morrow/FloodListGH.htm   isis1037@yahoo.com Owner/moderator Website: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egyptbeyond Author: "Tombs,Temples and Thrones" ________________________________ From: Sandra Hart <sandyhart@mac.com> To: harris-hunters <harris-hunters@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:11 AM Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Harris and Gillam in Cannon Co, TN I believe that the Gillam Debbie referred to is: Frances Melvina Harris (b ~1850 in Cannon Co, TN). She married Henry Gillam on Aug 27 1865 in Cannon Co, TN. Frances was the daughter of John Lee Harris (1822-1913) and Sarah Bryson. John Lee Harris was the eldest son of Claiborne Harris and Elizabeth Blanks. Claiborne Harris was born in Halifax Co, VA in 1798.  He was the eldest son of Elijah Harris and Nancy Lee.  Three male descendants of Elijah Harris have tested into YDNA Group 30: Randall Rogers Harris (my brother) descends from Elijah's son Joseph Stanley Russell Harris (my 2nd cousin) also descends from Elijah's son Joseph Robert Harris (my 4C1R) descends from Elijah's son Claiborne. [Note: Pat Seaver descends from Elijah's daughter Martha (Harris) Morefield] I've never looked into Henry Gillam, so don't know anything about his ancestry, but would like to. Sandy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have three Toney names in my database. By the way, I just use my database as hints in finding my Harris and Wilkinson families. So not much original research. Sorry. I hope you find your Gilliam ancestor. 1. Thomas Wilkinson (abt 1734) of New Kent, Virginia married Sarah Gilliam (1738) also of New Kent, in about 1755. Sarah's parents were James and Catherine Gilliam and Thomas' parents were Francis Wilkinson and Mary Cary. Francis Wilkinson had another son besides Thomas--John Wilkinson (abt 1730), who married Judith Lee (abt 1730) in abt 1751 in New Kent. John and Judith had a daughter, Frances Lee Wilkinson (abt 1754) of Buckingham, Virginia, who married James Snoddy (abt 1742) from Philadelphia--married 1768 in Buckingham, Virginia. James and Frances had a son, James Lewis Snoddy (abt 1776) Buckingham who married Frances Toney (abt 1780). I don't know who her parents were. 2. Going back a bit, Jesse Woodson (abt 1715) Cumberland, Virginia married Mary Ann Toney (perhaps around 1720?). I don't know who her parents were. Jesse's parents were William Woodson and Sarah Allen; William's parents were Benjamin Louis Woodson and Sarah Porter; and Benjamin's parents were Colonel Robert Woodson and Elizabeth Ferris. 3. Also, James Barnes or Burns (abt 1705) married Mary Wilkinson (abt 1709) daughter of Richard Wilkinson and Martha Cox. Their daughter, Judith Barnes (abt 1752 Cumberland), married Edmund Toney. Right now I'm looking for Lucy (Watkin?) (abt 1760) married to William Wilkinson (abt 1760). Their son James Wilkinson (1788) Petersburg (the one now in West Virginia I think). married Temperance Knight (1796) Knoxville, Tennessee. Their daughter Katherine Christian (Kittie) Wilkinson was the mother of my great-grandfather Harris. William and his son James and their families lived in the Lincoln County, Missouri area. Clarence Cannon mentioned them in a couple of his books. So if anybody sees a Lucy b 1760 married to William Wilkinson --with a son born in Petersburg, Hardy or Hampshire, West Virginia--I'd love to hear about it. The thing is, one of their sons besides James was named "Herod". I always wondered why they would name a son "Herod". I'm thinking Harwood or Herrod. Or Sherwood. But there was a "Herod Gibbs" from Petersburg. Married to Lucy Marie Anderson. And my Herod Wilkinson's brother was named Anderson. But I'm thinking that it was the differ! ent Petersburg Virginia. On May 24, 2012, at 3:17 PM, DEL HIESTAND wrote: > I'm still not sure who the family of my GILLIAM ancestor was. Elizabeth Gilliam married Alexander Kastor TONEY 9 April 1687 in new Kent Co., VA. A son of this union , Charles Toney born 1704/5 married an Elizabeth HARRIS,parentage assumed to be a Thomas HARRIS and Mary GILES. This is how my line connects TONEY,HARRIS,GILLIAM. > Del Hiestand > > --- On Wed, 5/23/12, PatCLARE@aol.com <PatCLARE@aol.com> wrote: > >> From: PatCLARE@aol.com <PatCLARE@aol.com> >> Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Harris/Gilliam/Kimball/Cheatham >> To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com >> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 4:44 AM >> >> >> In a message dated 5/23/2012 12:37:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight >> Time, >> lmcollins3@comcast.net >> writes: >> >> About the Harris-Gilliam connection, would it be from >> the line of Richard >> Gilliam (1657 New Kent, Virginia) and Margaret Lawson >> (1659 New Kent, >> Virginia)? Their son William Gilliam (1699) >> married Agnes Harris (1710) , and >> then William and Agnes' granddaughter Priscilla >> (1766) married James Harris >> (1763). Another granddaughter Elizabeth Gilliam >> (1769) married Ransom >> Harris (1764). And then there's the Martha Taylor >> Gilliam (1786) mentioned, >> who married Gideon Harris (1772) in that same line. >> (Not original >> research--I copied these dates from the internet.) >> >> >> The James Harris that Priscilla Gilliam married is a DNA 4; >> >> >> however, our Harris 8 Family Finders are picking up some >> part of the >> Gilliam autosomal DNA going through that couple. >> We believe that means that >> Agnes Harris up the line was an 8 or that the 8 Harris line >> contains major >> Gilliam strains from a line that would include William >> Gilliam. >> >> The line through Elizabeth Gilliam/Ransom Harris carries the >> FF for Sherod >> Alexander Harris 8 >> The line through Priscilla Gilliam/James Harris carries the >> FF line for >> Jerry Carter (Sherod Harris/Hannah Page) >> >> If you move up the line to Agnes Harris/William Gilliam, the >> following FFs >> come through their children: >> >> William Gilliam/Elizabeth Cheatham (Sherod Alexander >> Harris 8 & Jerry >> Carter 8) >> Winnefred Gilliam/Peter Kimball (Jimmy Richard Harris 8 >> & Lorene Harris 8.) >> >> Jimmy goes through son Buckner Kimball and Lorene goes >> through son Peter >> Kimball and the name evolves into Kimbrell . >> >> >> Jimmy and Lorene both come from the Edward Harris line of >> Twitty Creek (old >> Brunswick>Lunenburg>Charlotte VA) who was said to >> have married a widow >> Gilliam. If she was a widow, I can't say >> she was a Gilliam, unless she was >> a Gilliam married to a deceased >> Gilliam; Deed records show that >> Edward >> had a wife Ann in 1766. >> >> >> >> >> Bk 1, p. 123 >> 84. p. 123. __ ___ 1766. Edward Harris of Cornwall >> Parish Charlotte Co. >> to >> Henry Isbell of same, for 30 pounds, 100 acres in >> Charlotte on Reads >> Fork.[Note: this is proved to be Reece's Fork by >> comparison with the >> neighboring land >> deeds - Pat] All waterways and appurtenances. Ann, >> wife of***** Edward >> Harris, mentioned. >> Signed: Edwd. Harris >> Witness: none >> Recorded: 7 Oct 1766 >> >> >> We hope to have a major Gilliam line in the Family Finder in >> July that may >> really help on these lines. >> >> >> The origin of all the Gilliam names appears to come with >> Minyard (of >> Edward) adopting the Gilliam children of William Gilliam d >> 1772 married to >> deceased Mary assumed to be Harris. >> >> The adopted children were >> >> Charles Gilliam, >> Minyard Gilliam, >> Harris Gilliam, and >> Martha Gilliam . >> >> There may have been children already of age, also. >> >> >> >> Charles married Sarah Smith and died in Franklin TN >> Minyard Gilliam & unknown married and he >> died in Burke NC post 1830 >> Harris Gilliam married his cousin Mavan Harris d/o Edward >> II, bro to >> Minyard >> Martha Gilliam may have married an Edward Harris >> cousin. >> >> >> Greg Gilliam can correct my notes!! >> >> Pat >> >> >> COURT AND ROAD ORDERS 7 DEC 1772 CHARLOTTE MOTION OF MAYNARD >> HARRIS TO >> ADOPT >> GILLIAM CHILDREN PG 214 >> >> >> There is a question now whether the Sr. Edward Harris moved >> to NC with his >> children, as there is a late deed for an Edward Harris of >> Charlotte VA >> buying property in the area of Ward's Fork north of >> the Roanoke/Staunton River. >> >> >> Pat >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm still not sure who the family of my GILLIAM ancestor was. Elizabeth Gilliam married Alexander Kastor TONEY 9 April 1687 in new Kent Co., VA. A son of this union , Charles Toney born 1704/5 married an Elizabeth HARRIS,parentage assumed to be a Thomas HARRIS and Mary GILES. This is how my line connects TONEY,HARRIS,GILLIAM. Del Hiestand --- On Wed, 5/23/12, PatCLARE@aol.com <PatCLARE@aol.com> wrote: > From: PatCLARE@aol.com <PatCLARE@aol.com> > Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Harris/Gilliam/Kimball/Cheatham > To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 4:44 AM > > > In a message dated 5/23/2012 12:37:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight > Time,  > lmcollins3@comcast.net > writes: > > About  the Harris-Gilliam connection, would it be from > the line of Richard > Gilliam  (1657 New Kent, Virginia) and Margaret Lawson > (1659 New Kent, > Virginia)?   Their son William Gilliam (1699) > married Agnes Harris (1710) , and > then  William and Agnes' granddaughter Priscilla > (1766)  married James Harris > (1763).  Another granddaughter Elizabeth Gilliam > (1769) married Ransom  > Harris (1764).  And then there's the Martha Taylor > Gilliam (1786)  mentioned, > who married Gideon Harris (1772) in that same line.  >   (Not original > research--I copied these dates from the internet.) > > > The James Harris that Priscilla Gilliam married is a DNA 4; > > > however, our Harris 8 Family Finders are picking up some > part of the  > Gilliam autosomal  DNA going through that couple.  > We believe that  means that > Agnes Harris up the line was an 8 or that the 8 Harris line > contains  major > Gilliam strains from a line that would include William > Gilliam. > > The line through Elizabeth Gilliam/Ransom Harris carries the > FF for Sherod  > Alexander Harris 8 > The line through Priscilla Gilliam/James Harris carries the > FF line for  > Jerry Carter (Sherod Harris/Hannah Page) > > If you move up the line to Agnes Harris/William Gilliam, the > following FFs  > come through their children: > > William Gilliam/Elizabeth Cheatham  (Sherod Alexander > Harris 8 &  Jerry > Carter 8) > Winnefred Gilliam/Peter Kimball (Jimmy Richard Harris 8 > & Lorene Harris  8.) > > Jimmy goes through son Buckner  Kimball and Lorene goes > through son  Peter > Kimball and the name evolves into Kimbrell .  > > > Jimmy and Lorene both come from the Edward Harris line of > Twitty Creek (old > Brunswick>Lunenburg>Charlotte VA) who was said to > have married a widow  > Gilliam.   If she was a widow, I can't say > she was a Gilliam, unless  she was > a Gilliam married to a deceased > Gilliam;   Deed records show  that > Edward > had a wife Ann in 1766. > > > > > Bk 1, p. 123 > 84. p. 123. __ ___ 1766. Edward Harris of Cornwall  > Parish Charlotte Co. > to > Henry Isbell of same, for 30 pounds, 100 acres in  > Charlotte on Reads > Fork.[Note: this is proved to be Reece's Fork by  > comparison with the > neighboring land > deeds - Pat] All waterways and  appurtenances. Ann, > wife of***** Edward > Harris, mentioned. > Signed: Edwd.  Harris > Witness: none > Recorded: 7 Oct 1766 > > > We hope to have a major Gilliam line in the Family Finder in > July that may  > really help on these lines. > > > The origin of all the Gilliam names appears to come with > Minyard (of  > Edward) adopting the Gilliam children of William Gilliam d > 1772 married to  > deceased Mary assumed to be Harris. > > The adopted children were > > Charles Gilliam, > Minyard Gilliam, > Harris Gilliam, and > Martha Gilliam . > > There may have been children already of age, also. > > > > Charles married Sarah Smith and died in Franklin TN > Minyard Gilliam  & unknown  married and he > died in Burke NC  post 1830 > Harris Gilliam married his cousin Mavan Harris d/o Edward > II, bro to  > Minyard > Martha Gilliam may have married an  Edward Harris > cousin. > > > Greg Gilliam can correct my notes!! > > Pat > > > COURT AND ROAD ORDERS 7 DEC 1772 CHARLOTTE MOTION OF MAYNARD > HARRIS TO  > ADOPT > GILLIAM CHILDREN PG 214 > > > There is a question now whether the Sr. Edward Harris moved > to NC with his  > children, as there is a late deed for an Edward Harris of > Charlotte VA > buying  property in the area of Ward's Fork north of > the Roanoke/Staunton River. > > > Pat > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

I have a Gilliam family who settled here in Heppner and Morrow County, Oregon Their names are: Birdie, Cornelius, Earl, Eugene, Frank, Jackson E., Lou, Ona.  Colonel Cornelius was a native of North Carolina, and was part of a military group active during one of the indian wars. He was killed accidentally at Wells Springs, Morrow, Oregon while leading a group of men. He was 49 years old when killed 20, March, 1848. He was also a lay Baptist preacher. [This was after the Whitman massacre at Walla Walla, Oregon Territory (now in Washington state]. He was initially buried at Wells Springs and then his remains were returned to Polk County, Oregon. Several other Gilliam families moved from the Willamette Valley, where they had settled in the large emigrations of the 1840s, back east to this area in the late 1860s. One family began a mercantile in Heppner. The building is still there with the name "Gilliam" on the upper facade. It survived the Heppner 14, June, 1903 flood, due to a flash flood, that devastated the town and killed over 247 men, women and children. There was one JOHN J. HARRIS listed as being a victim of this flood, also listed in "HOMESTEADS AND HERITAGES", Author, Giles French are two other HARRIS names associated with this area. Clarence HARRIS, of IONE, who was killed in WWII, and in 1885 an M.C. HARRIS, who is listed as the editor of the "Riverside Enterprise" newspaper. At the time of the early settlers the whole of E. Oregon (until it's statehood in 1889) was listed as Wasco County, although slowly counties began to develop across E. Oregon. Although there are still Harris families listed in our phone book, I have no idea if they are related in any way....My family connections were in both Idaho, Nevada, California, as well as Oregon (where I was born and raised....and still here). Jane (Harris) Richards http://orgenweb.org/morrow/FloodListGH.htm   isis1037@yahoo.com Owner/moderator Website: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egyptbeyond Author: "Tombs,Temples and Thrones" ________________________________ From: Sandra Hart <sandyhart@mac.com> To: harris-hunters <harris-hunters@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:11 AM Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Harris and Gillam in Cannon Co, TN I believe that the Gillam Debbie referred to is: Frances Melvina Harris (b ~1850 in Cannon Co, TN). She married Henry Gillam on Aug 27 1865 in Cannon Co, TN. Frances was the daughter of John Lee Harris (1822-1913) and Sarah Bryson. John Lee Harris was the eldest son of Claiborne Harris and Elizabeth Blanks. Claiborne Harris was born in Halifax Co, VA in 1798.  He was the eldest son of Elijah Harris and Nancy Lee.  Three male descendants of Elijah Harris have tested into YDNA Group 30: Randall Rogers Harris (my brother) descends from Elijah's son Joseph Stanley Russell Harris (my 2nd cousin) also descends from Elijah's son Joseph Robert Harris (my 4C1R) descends from Elijah's son Claiborne. [Note: Pat Seaver descends from Elijah's daughter Martha (Harris) Morefield] I've never looked into Henry Gillam, so don't know anything about his ancestry, but would like to. Sandy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe that the Gillam Debbie referred to is: Frances Melvina Harris (b ~1850 in Cannon Co, TN). She married Henry Gillam on Aug 27 1865 in Cannon Co, TN. Frances was the daughter of John Lee Harris (1822-1913) and Sarah Bryson. John Lee Harris was the eldest son of Claiborne Harris and Elizabeth Blanks. Claiborne Harris was born in Halifax Co, VA in 1798. He was the eldest son of Elijah Harris and Nancy Lee. Three male descendants of Elijah Harris have tested into YDNA Group 30: Randall Rogers Harris (my brother) descends from Elijah's son Joseph Stanley Russell Harris (my 2nd cousin) also descends from Elijah's son Joseph Robert Harris (my 4C1R) descends from Elijah's son Claiborne. [Note: Pat Seaver descends from Elijah's daughter Martha (Harris) Morefield] I've never looked into Henry Gillam, so don't know anything about his ancestry, but would like to. Sandy

Pat, I sent a post yesterday identifying James  Harris  who married Priscilla Giliam and Elizabeth Gilliam who married  Ransom Harris. Both Harrises are sons of Isham and Martha Harris and grandsons of West and Mary Turner Harris. James died in Spartenburg, SC   They were brothers to my Wiley Harris who married Elizabeth Hearne. I didn't see this posted. William Gilliam was the father of Priscilla and Elizabeth but no one has given proof of the maiden name of William's wife.They had another sister who married Isham HARRISON. Ransom Harris left a will but  no one has found one for James. I will be happy to help on any of these lines Barbara.barbhens@sbcglobal.net --- On Wed, 5/23/12, PatCLARE@aol.com <PatCLARE@aol.com> wrote: From: PatCLARE@aol.com <PatCLARE@aol.com> Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Harris/Gilliam/Kimball/Cheatham To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 6:44 AM In a message dated 5/23/2012 12:37:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  lmcollins3@comcast.net writes: About  the Harris-Gilliam connection, would it be from the line of Richard Gilliam  (1657 New Kent, Virginia) and Margaret Lawson (1659 New Kent, Virginia)?   Their son William Gilliam (1699) married Agnes Harris (1710) , and then  William and Agnes' granddaughter Priscilla (1766)  married James Harris (1763).  Another granddaughter Elizabeth Gilliam (1769) married Ransom  Harris (1764).  And then there's the Martha Taylor Gilliam (1786)  mentioned, who married Gideon Harris (1772) in that same line.    (Not original research--I copied these dates from the internet.) The James Harris that Priscilla Gilliam married is a DNA 4; however, our Harris 8 Family Finders are picking up some part of the  Gilliam autosomal  DNA going through that couple.  We believe that  means that Agnes Harris up the line was an 8 or that the 8 Harris line contains  major Gilliam strains from a line that would include William Gilliam. The line through Elizabeth Gilliam/Ransom Harris carries the FF for Sherod  Alexander Harris 8 The line through Priscilla Gilliam/James Harris carries the FF line for  Jerry Carter (Sherod Harris/Hannah Page) If you move up the line to Agnes Harris/William Gilliam, the following FFs  come through their children: William Gilliam/Elizabeth Cheatham  (Sherod Alexander Harris 8 &  Jerry Carter 8) Winnefred Gilliam/Peter Kimball (Jimmy Richard Harris 8 & Lorene Harris  8.) Jimmy goes through son Buckner  Kimball and Lorene goes through son  Peter Kimball and the name evolves into Kimbrell .  Jimmy and Lorene both come from the Edward Harris line of Twitty Creek (old Brunswick>Lunenburg>Charlotte VA) who was said to have married a widow  Gilliam.   If she was a widow, I can't say she was a Gilliam, unless  she was a Gilliam married to a deceased Gilliam;   Deed records show  that Edward had a wife Ann in 1766. Bk 1, p. 123 84. p. 123. __ ___ 1766. Edward Harris of Cornwall  Parish Charlotte Co. to Henry Isbell of same, for 30 pounds, 100 acres in  Charlotte on Reads Fork.[Note: this is proved to be Reece's Fork by  comparison with the neighboring land deeds - Pat] All waterways and  appurtenances. Ann, wife of***** Edward Harris, mentioned. Signed: Edwd.  Harris Witness: none Recorded: 7 Oct 1766 We hope to have a major Gilliam line in the Family Finder in July that may  really help on these lines. The origin of all the Gilliam names appears to come with Minyard (of  Edward) adopting the Gilliam children of William Gilliam d 1772 married to  deceased Mary assumed to be Harris. The adopted children were Charles Gilliam, Minyard Gilliam, Harris Gilliam, and Martha Gilliam . There may have been children already of age, also. Charles married Sarah Smith and died in Franklin TN Minyard Gilliam  & unknown  married and he died in Burke NC  post 1830 Harris Gilliam married his cousin Mavan Harris d/o Edward II, bro to  Minyard Martha Gilliam may have married an  Edward Harris cousin. Greg Gilliam can correct my notes!! Pat COURT AND ROAD ORDERS 7 DEC 1772 CHARLOTTE MOTION OF MAYNARD HARRIS TO  ADOPT GILLIAM CHILDREN PG 214 There is a question now whether the Sr. Edward Harris moved to NC with his  children, as there is a late deed for an Edward Harris of Charlotte VA buying  property in the area of Ward's Fork north of the Roanoke/Staunton River. Pat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hmmm...must be spring cleaning that I was thinking of As administrator, I went through our mailing list and for those people who were subscribed to BOTH Digest mode and INDIVIDUAL mode, I removed the DIGEST mode thinking you were getting both. Please send me a note to _patclare@aol.com_ (mailto:patclare@aol.com) if you want to be subbed only in Digest Mode...this means that messages are held until there are five or more before they are sent to you. Sorry for any inconvenience....most of our correspondence has a rapid turn around in INDIVIDUAL mode. Pat Harris

Good evening all, I have no idea, as to why I am receiving posts individually, because I have always been subscribed to this list...in digest mode. Ah well, here is the summary of my HARRIS brickwall: ---------------------- SARAH "Sally" HARRIS m. JOSEPH JOHNSON, s/o John JOHNSON Sr-Mary PLEDGE *their exact date of marriage was NOT listed in the Douglas Register ...presumed married in Goochland Co., but long before Rev. Douglas arrived *Sarah and Joseph lived in Goochland Co., right on the border with Louisa Co. *1st 2 children's births, and youngest child's birth, NOT listed in Douglas Reg. ...the 1st 2 children born before Rev. Douglas, unk reason for the last child *Per Joseph's 1781 Will; he "was her one and only husband" *Sarah died after 1781 and probably well before 1790 *Sarah had no written Will, her estate dispersal was listed (1781) in Joseph's Strongly suspect either her father's name was also John, or was probably David, as these were the first two sons for Sarah and Joseph...with a lesser possibility of either Benjamin or Thomas, as these were the only other boy names given to her children. Strongly suspect that Sarah's mother's name may be; Ann "Nancy." The birth sequence of names used coincidentally match Joseph's parents; 1-John, 2-Mary. Joseph's parents were, John JOHNSON Sr. m. Mary PLEDGE, so a serious possibility. The next two children were 3-Ann "Nancy" and 4-David, which if they were following a somewhat common naming practice of the time, could indicate Sarah's parent's names. Then sons 5-Benjamin and 6-Thomas, had their baptisms recorded in The Douglas Register. David died in early childhood, and was recorded in the back of The Douglas Register. Their youngest, 7-Patsy, single in 1781...but did m., recorded Douglas Register. ---------------------- I am currently side-tracked a bit, because I am back in college after 40+ years, but...as always, I am interested in trying to find our Sarah's HARRIS family. Lisa ------------------ My line is as follows: Joseph JOHNSON, m. Sarah HARRIS _\ Joanna JOHNSON, m. Nathaniel MOSS, both of Goochland Co., VA First, moved to SC, stayed with family there, then acquired land in Wilkes Co.GA Second, sold GA land and moved to LA, lived out their lives, and died in LA Then: _ _\ Joseph Henry MOSS, m. in LA, Marie Clarice "Clara" THIBODEAUX _ _ _\ Alexander MOSS, m. in LA, Martha Orr RICE _ _ _ _\ Sophronia Teresia MOSS m. in TX, Robert HERRINGTON _ _ _ _ _\ Pauline HERRINGTON m. in TX, Persy ROSSER _ _ _ _ _ _\ Geraldine ROSSER, was my mother =========================================================================

I, too am stuck. My earliest Harris is the William Harris with sons on the 1790 and 1800 Duplin Co NC censuses.  I find Williams in colonial Virginia but can't make a connection with any of them.  The known associated families to my line are:  Gentry, Carr, Bibb, Minor, all moved to Dickson Co TN.  No males, no DNA.   Sue in TN From: Debbie in AL <gendeb1@hotmail.com> To: Harris Hunters <harris-hunters@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:19 AM Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] John L. Harris Cannon Co. TN Can I start? I want to thank everyone that has contributed also. I do like to read the posts even though I do not find any connection yet since my brick wall stops in 1845. I have a Gillium that married a Harris in Cannon Co. TN. My ongoing search is John L. Harris b. 1822 VA/TN, census varies. Some people say L. stands for "Lee" which I have no documentation. He also goes by J. L. Harris. He does have a son named John Lee Harris, so I'm not counting it out. I first find him married to Sarah Bryson in 1845 Cannon Co. TN and he died there in 1913. Unfortunately records were burnt, my dad was born there in 1913 also. John L. is listed in the harrisdna.org unmatched group. Any clues will be appreciated. Thank you all. Debbie in AL > From: PatCLARE@aol.com > Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 23:34:49 -0400 > To: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Thanks to our researchers > > I would like to thank our researchers who have submitted important > information to our list. > > > > Ann Gary, we appreciate your information on DNA line 3. > > Pam Stone, thank you for your material on Harris DNA line 6 with the > Benjamin Harris notes. > > Evelyn Wallace, thank you for your many contributions to our HH list and > your histories on Group 6. > > Glenn Gohr...many thanks for Harris Group 8 material. > > > I can't list everyone, but thanks to all who have made this such a great > list. > > > For information on our many different Harris families (now over 50) > please see > > Harrisdna.org > > go to results page. > > > We should do a roll call for those people still searching for their > families. > > > If you have a Harris line anywhere that you need help with, please post > your material to the list. We have a great group of helpful people who > may be able to assist you to find your families. > > If you don't get an answer or reply, please know that your information will > remain in the archives and somewhere down the road someone may come along > who has the material you need. > > Pat Harris > Mitch Harris > . > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message                         ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message