Source: Granville County, North Carolina Genweb Granville County, North Carolina Civil War Service Records The following records were gleaned from the Civil War Service Records of Granville County, North Carolina. The list includes Name, enlistment day, residence, and occupation (some not given). Harris, Augustus L. Enlisted on 22 July 1862, residence Granville Co., occupation, Farmer Harris, Charles Enlisted on 27 July 1864, residence Granville Co., Harris, Daniel C. Enlisted on 19 February 1862, residence Granville Co., occupation, Farmer Harris, David W. Enlisted on 22 February 1862, residence Granville Co., occupation, Farmer Harris, Durrell L. Enlisted on 01 May 1861, residence Granville Co., Harris, George T. Enlisted on 22 July 1862, residence Granville Co., Harris, Henry Enlisted on 10 August 1861, residence Granville Co., Harris, Henry S. Enlisted on 01 March 1862, residence Granville Co., Harris, I Turner Enlisted on 15 March 1862, residence Granville Co.,, occupation, Farmer Harris, James Enlisted on 22 February 1862, residence Granville Co., occupation, Farmer Harris, James C. Enlisted on 01 March 1862, residence Granville Co., Harris, John T. Enlisted on 26 April 1861, residence Granville Co., occupation, Farmer Harris, Jordan Enlisted on 01 May 1863, residence Granville Co., Harris, Joseph Enlisted on 04 March 1862, residence Granville Co., occupation, Farmer Harris, Leonard Enlisted on 19 April 1862, residence Granville Co., occupation, Student Harris, Lewis L. Enlisted on 02 August 1863, residence Granville Co., Harris, Louis T. Enlisted on 10 August 1861, residence Granville Co., Harris, M. Enlisted on 15 July 1861, residence Granville Co., occupation, Clerk Harris, Richard P. Enlisted on 07 September 1861, residence Granville Co., Harris, Samuel N. Enlisted on 16 July 1862, residence Granville Co., Harris, Thomas Enlisted on 03 March 1862, residence Granville Co., occupation, Farmer Harris, Thomas C. Enlisted on 07 September 1861, residence Granville Co., Harris, Washington D. Enlisted on 31 October 1864, residence Granville Co., Harris, Wiley P. Enlisted on 24 April 1862, residence Granville Co., Harris, William Enlisted on 13 April 1862, residence Granville Co., occupation, Farmer Harris, William Enlisted on 17 June 1861, residence Granville Co., Harris, William R. Enlisted on 30 April 1861, residence Granville Co., occupation, Lawyer Harris, William T. Enlisted on 01 March 1862, residence Granville Co., occupation, Farmer If you wish to add additional information, please do so. Please send all information and queries through HH so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Member, Group 6, Harris Y-DNA Family Study Line of Robert Harris of Ware Creek, New Kent County, Virginia

According to my records...one Arthur Harris married a Johanna Percy...and that is our connection to the Percy lineage   isis1037@yahoo.com Owner/moderator Website: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egyptbeyond Author: "Tombs,Temples and Thrones" ________________________________ From: Barbara Hensley <barbhens@sbcglobal.net> To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Jamestown, Virginia Information Ira and other Harris Hunters:  Along the same line is a book entitled JamestownThe Buried Truth by William M. Kelso, first published in 2006. (Sorry I don't know how to underline the title) There is much mentioning of a George Percy who probably connects to our Henry Percy , if that part of the Harris history is fact. It's a very informative book. Barbara Hensley barbhens@sbcglobal.net --- On Tue, 6/5/12, Ira Harris <barebear@insightbb.com> wrote: From: Ira Harris <barebear@insightbb.com> Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Jamestown, Virginia Information To: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, June 5, 2012, 12:04 PM Dear HH'ers For those who have ties to the early Jamestown Colony. While cleaning out my classroom, I found  a National Geographic magazine I had put back. National Geographic Magazine, June 1979, Vol. 155, No. 6, pp. 734-767. It has a very interesting article about the early excavation of the colonial Jamestown, Va. area. There are also many pictures, drawings, and illustrations.  Hope you find and enjoy it. Ira L. Harris III Member, Group 6, Harris Y-DNA Family Study. Line of Robert Harris of Ware Creek, New Kent County, Virginia. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ira and other Harris Hunters:  Along the same line is a book entitled JamestownThe Buried Truth by William M. Kelso, first published in 2006. (Sorry I don't know how to underline the title) There is much mentioning of a George Percy who probably connects to our Henry Percy , if that part of the Harris history is fact. It's a very informative book. Barbara Hensley barbhens@sbcglobal.net --- On Tue, 6/5/12, Ira Harris <barebear@insightbb.com> wrote: From: Ira Harris <barebear@insightbb.com> Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Jamestown, Virginia Information To: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, June 5, 2012, 12:04 PM Dear HH'ers For those who have ties to the early Jamestown Colony. While cleaning out my classroom, I found  a National Geographic magazine I had put back. National Geographic Magazine, June 1979, Vol. 155, No. 6, pp. 734-767. It has a very interesting article about the early excavation of the colonial Jamestown, Va. area. There are also many pictures, drawings, and illustrations.  Hope you find and enjoy it. Ira L. Harris III Member, Group 6, Harris Y-DNA Family Study. Line of Robert Harris of Ware Creek, New Kent County, Virginia. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear HH'ers For those who have ties to the early Jamestown Colony. While cleaning out my classroom, I found a National Geographic magazine I had put back. National Geographic Magazine, June 1979, Vol. 155, No. 6, pp. 734-767. It has a very interesting article about the early excavation of the colonial Jamestown, Va. area. There are also many pictures, drawings, and illustrations. Hope you find and enjoy it. Ira L. Harris III Member, Group 6, Harris Y-DNA Family Study. Line of Robert Harris of Ware Creek, New Kent County, Virginia.

Dear researcher of Kentucky records Years ago, while studying a Stephens family of Henderson Co., KY ca 1812-1815 and its linkage to a Williams family in the early 1800s, I discovered that the head of the Stephens family, David Stephens (he had a number of daughters, indicate the deeds of Henderson Co. and two deceased sons) had been in the War of 1812.  More about this later.  He was quartermaster but resigned (sickness?--he died about 2 years later.) The online subscription database Fold 3 is offering FREE information (June only) about participants in the War of 1812, mostly pensioners, but I will point out to you a book which has to do with Kentucky participants, published long ago. In trying to round up info about the Henderson Co. KY relatives of my ancestor, I had hired a good genealogist in Frankfort, KY to trace some of my scattered Williams family, and through some luck, we discovered that they were in EARLY Henderson Co.  The extended Williams family, who had Texas roots beginning ca 1852, had some old letters which linked the Williamses of Kentucky to some females who bore the maiden name Stephens.  We deduced from a mutilated letter than many of my great-grandfather's relatives were of Henderson Co., KY. Through some of my reading, I found that one David Stephens of Henderson Co. had been quartermaster for a company from Henderson Co. KY.  However, he had died ca 1814, and his widow, Elizabeth had married her older neighbor, Samuel F[arrar] Williams, and he became guardian of Elizabeth's children.  These Stephens daughters--whom I discovered through reading LOTS of Henderson Co. deeds--were wives or mothers of some of the letter-writers to my Williams ancestor, who somehow had got to coastal Texas ca 1852.  His cousins, as deduced from these letters, had broad (for the time period) geographical reaches--Columbus, KY; Springfield, IL; Kansas City, MO; Logan Co., IL; Henderson Co., KY (and look in "Vanderbergh county, Indiana also).  Some of this info was from a torn letter in our extended family which we gathered from the content was written from Henderson Co, KY, probably after the Civil War as he (the letter-writer) bemoaned War and the recent illness and death of one of his younger sons, apparently on the Mississippi River--on a trading trip. Let me tell you, however, about a book written some years ago, about the Kentuckians' participation in the War of 1812.  You may have to do some digging in county records--wills, guardianships, deeds (of heirs), to verify what you find in this long-ago published book. The book about the War of 1812 and Kentuckians is by Anderson Chenault Quisenberrry and this is the title.  Parts of it are on Google.books, but there is probably insufficient information for you to make any deductions.  If you live in Kentucky, it may be on the bookshelves of a local public library--or a college or University library in that state.  If I am not mistaken Anderson Chenault Quisenberry was connected with what later became the US Defense Department.  No doubt, wikipedia or some such website may have a biography of Quisenberry.  His name certainly connects him with Kentucky. (The stepfather of one of my great-grandmothers was named Anderson Chenault of Madison Co., KY.  His second (?) wife was my widowed ancestress, Nancy (Oldham) Harris, widow of Overton Harris, who died testate in Madison Co., KY in 1827.) Here is some incomplete information about this book of Kentucky in the War of 1812. May you learn about some of your *missing* male ancestors. If you have some information to add about this book or even the above *squashed* family history, may I hear from you? Evelyn W. Wallace Kentucky in the War of 1812 « Back to search results stmt. resp.: Anderson Chenault Quisenberry ; preface by G. Glenn Clift and an added index supplied by the Kentucky Historical Society authors: Quisenberry, Anderson Chenault, 1850- format: Books/Monographs language: English publication: Baltimore, Maryland : Genealogical Pub. Co., 1969 physical: 242 p. : ill., ports. subject class: 976.9 M25

Emma - I suggest you resubmit your query but give some dates.  You gave some places, but Florida is a *newcomer* among the United States. Also, do some exploring of the Familysearch.org website.  If you see a link to *Education* or something like that, click on it.  The Family History Library at Salt Lake City has recently upgraded what they used to call Research Outlines-- a very useful guide for every State in the Union and for many foreign countries.  These may be on Familysearch.wiki (or some such URL.)  I have not kept up with ALL the changes which are taking place at FHL, but it, the FHL, is my favorite place to do research, when I am well enough to go with a group. If you are near an LDS Family History Center, telephone and get their opening hours.  Many are manned [womaned] by volunteers and are not open all the time.  Youy can locate such a center through familysearch.org Among the microfiche assigned early to FH Centers, I am told, is something called AIS [Accelerated Indexing System]  This is more or less an index (with lots of errors, duplications, etc) for all US censuses through at least 1850, and for the first years (for some western states, beyond 1850 census), there are excerpts from early tax records, as the 1790 census is not complete.  Also at the end of this extensive index are some indexes to mortality schedules for 1850 and 1860.  (I was fortunate enough to find on these mortality schedules two deceased ancestors, when and where they died, and the ailment that caused their death.) Do check the online Family History Library catalog for places where your ancestors lived and see whether there are deeds, probates, tax lists, county histories.  If your local library has some reference books on genealogy (such as The Red Book by Alice Eicholz, editor), it may be behind the reference librarians desk.  It does not generally circulate, as it is a reference book.  I believe someone told me, this book is now on Ancestry.com, but it is a reference book and not easy to read on line, I am thinking.  There is a chart for every county, telling when it was established, etc.  Very useful.  I think a fellow named Hinshaw compiled LOTS of Quaker records, and I would not be surprised that some (if not all) his books are on the internet.  A lot of us genealogists use google.com and google.books a LOT.  I use it in this way, a lot: [such and such a county, state, + genealogy] Check what databases your local library subscribes to.  HeritageQuest is very helpful, and many libraries have the library version of Ancestry.com.  Your librarian can help you solve many a problem (we hope). E.W.Wallace   ________________________________ From: Emma Phillips <emmp106@yahoo.com> To: "harris-hunters@rootsweb.com" <harris-hunters@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 4:22 AM Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Levi Harris I am still trying to document the parentage of Levi (perhaps Martin middle name) Harris. At one time I had found one who was of Quaker descent, but moved and lost a lot of my records. He possibly was from Maine, went to Florida and married Dorothy Bozeman. Unable to track him much before or after that. He did have land patents in Florida. There was a Levi Harris who was ousted from the Quakers for "attending places of amusement" but I don't remember where I saw it. Any help apppreciated. Emma in NM   ________________________________ From: Pam Stone <pamstone@cfl.rr.com> To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 6:26 PM Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Benjamin Harrises Pt. 19 Hi, all, Wandering through other sources, I found that "Obadiah" Harris owned 440 acres of land on Wolf Branch of the Deep River in Rowan Co., North Carolina, which he sold to John Cheadle (II), of Caroline Co., VA,  in October of 1767 (John's son-in-law, Samuel Hargrave, had also purchased land in Rowan Co. in 1766 from a different owner) (DAVIS, Virginia Lee Hutcheson:  Tidewater Virginia Families:  Generations Beyond; Copyright, 1998, by the author; Published, 1998, by Genealogical Publishing Company; Second Printing, 2004, by Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, Mayland, USA; ISBN #0-80631-578-4; LOC # 98-72719; p. 150.  (Virginia cited Rowan County, North Carolina Deed Book 6, pp. 504, 505.) (A note to everyone:  PLEASE be aware that this Genealogical Publishing Company "rearranges" real ISBN numbers, so that it appears as an ISBN record number that identifies ONLY their books:  a CORRECT & RELIABLE ISBN number format is: X-XXXXX-XXX-X (a format of 1-5-3-1), but the Genealogical Publishing Company has altered all the ISBNs for the books THEY publish to X-XXXX-XXXX-X (or a format of 1-4-4-1.) (This publishing company, while their publications are reliable, appears to be narrowly-skirting the copyright laws of the United States.) It seems obvious that this Obediah Harris was the Quaker son of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris, as he was selling his property to John Cheadle (II), an elder of the Golansville/ Caroline.  (John Cheadle never quite made it to North Carolina, though, as he died in late 1767 or early 1768 in Caroline  Co., VA.  What eventually happened to this land is undiscovered by me, as the Caroline Co., VA records have been decimated, except for the Court records.) It also has not been discovered by me if the land that Obediah Harris owned in Rowan Co., NC was land that he himself had purchased, or whether it was land that Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris had previously purchased (please do bear in mind that, under the primogeniture laws of Virginia, Obediah was his father's sole heir-at-law.) Please remember that these records that I sending JUST record the descendants of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris, and NOT the descendants of John & Mary Stanley Harris, which I believe to have been descendants of a DIFFERENT Harris line. ALSO, I have not been able to extract EVERY record of the line of Benjamin & Sarah, but only a few of them. Here is Part 19 of the children of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas  Harris. Pam ==================================== Matthew Peatross Terrell was b. August 11th, 1762 the son of Thomas & Rebecca Terrell of the Golansville/Caroline Meeting (BELL, James P.:  Our Quaker Friends of Ye Olden Time, Being in Part a Transcript of the Minute Books of Cedar Creek Meeting, Hanover County, and the South River Meeting, Campbell County, Virginia; Published, 1905, Lynchburg, Virginia; Republished, 1976, Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, MD, USA; p. 20.) ==================================== Wright, op. cit. [Records of Henrico Meeting] p. 73: 5/4/1788.  Reported that James CREW continues overseeing slaves - disowned. [James, son? of James Crew & Judith Harris, and grandson? of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] - p. 73: 5/4/1788.  Jessee CREW has long neglected attendance of meetings and is in the practice of overseeing slaves and has lately joined in marriage with a woman not of the Society - disowned. [Jesse, son of James & Judith Harris Crew, and grandson of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] ==================================== [END OF FILE] ==================================== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Information for my fellow Alabama researchers. > From: Robin Sterling <bobwonda@hiwaay.net> > Date: June 3, 2012 1:24:10 PM CDT > To: alblount@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ALBLOUNT] Blount County Confederate Soldiers Books are Complete > Reply-To: alblount@rootsweb.com > > Hello Fellow Blount County Researchers, > > Many of you following this board are familiar with my efforts. For > the last ten years, I have been working on a project to identify all > the Confederate Soldiers in a three county area: Blount, Cullman and > Winston. That work is now complete. > > The first step in the project was to completely review each cemetery > of each county. I personally visited and recorded each of them. > Those nine volumes of cemetery information are represented in most > major libraries across the state including the Alabama State Archives. > > The second step in the project was to review and abstract service > records of all the soldiers who enlisted in Confederate organizations > generally considered to be made up primarily of men from the same > geographical location, especially in Blount County, with enlistments > at Summit, Blountsville, Murphree's Valley, etc. > > The third step in the project was to review 276 reels of Alabama > Confederate pension application microfilm for applications of men from > Blount, Cullman, and Winston. At the time the film was unindexed. > Many of the reels were examined frame by frame two and three times > each. Personal letters, affidavits, and other letters were completely > typed up and included. > > The fourth step in the project was to examine as many of the old area > newspapers as possible. Every issue of the Blount County newspapers > were purchased from the State Archives on microfilm and personally > reviewed through the mid 1940s. Some issues not microfilmed were > transcribed from original copies in Montgomery. Compilations of > information from that effort I have already produced in book form and > have been distributed across the state and country similar to that of > the cemetery books, e.g., the People and Things series of books. > There are about a dozen of those books in all (from Blount, Cullman, > and Winston). Other papers examined include some in Walker, Lawrence, > and other surrounding counties. (I've bought a lot of microfilm from > the Archives!) > > The fifth step in the project was visits to the State Archives in > Montgomery to spot check other rare records such as the only existing > original issues of newspapers, pension ledger books, and associated > materials. I have spent many hours there. > > Other work included purchasing records from the Tennessee and Texas > Archives, hiring researchers to send me obits from western states, and > searching the internet in areas such as Google Books. Surprisingly, > little nuggets of information can be found in this manner. > > The result of all this work is a four volume set of information on > Confederate Soldiers from Blount County representing over 1400 pages > of material, not including the full name index in each volume, plus an > encompassing full name index in Volume 4, which identifies which > soldier appears in which volume. > > Volume 1 contains most of the Cavalry units from Blount County, plus > one unit of Infantry. Volume 2 continues the Infantry units. Volume > 3 completes the Infantry units and begins the Miscellaneous Section > which includes all the soldiers from Blount who enlisted in other > units, plus those soldiers who moved to the area after the war. This > picks up the large number of Georgia Confederates who migrated to > Blount County after the conflict. Volume 4 completes the > Miscellaneous Section and includes the soldier index across all four > volumes. > > Cavalry includes: > 12th Ala Cav, Company B (Captain Ingram) > 12th Ala Cav, Company C (Captain Musgrove) > 2nd Kentucky Cav, Company G (Captain McFarland, Morgan's Cav) > Lewis' Battalion Alabama Cav, Companies B and E > Graves, Barbiere's and Stewart's Cav (Blount Soldiers) > Holloway's Escort (Bragg's, Hood's, Johnston's Escort) > 3rd Confederate Cav, Company D (Captain McCaskill) > > Infantry includes: > 19th Ala Inf, Company B (Captain McKenzie) > 19th Ala Inf, Company K (Captain Skinner) > 28th Ala Inf, Company B (Captain Turpin) > 28th Ala inf, Company C (Captain Tidmore) > 29th Ala Inf, Company B (Captain Dew) > 29th Ala Inf, Company C (Captain Musgrove) > 29th Ala Inf, Company F (Captain Sapp) > 48th Ala inf, Company A (Captain Alldredge) > 48th Ala Inf, Company F (Captain Ellis) > 49th Ala inf, Company I (Captain Crump) > 50th Ala Inf, Company D (Captain Arnold) > 54th Ala inf, Company I (Captain Bibb) > > Each soldier identified is accompanied with (if it could be located) > abstracted service record, location in Federal Census, marriage > information, transcribed pension papers (some abstracted, most totally > transcribed), information from death certificates, newspaper reports, > and transcribed obits. It was discovered many of the old soldiers do > not have monuments, but death certificates and obits have identified > the cemetery where they were buried. Rare photographs of dozens of > the old soldiers are also included. Confederate widows are liberally > represented throughout the pages. > > The books are geared toward the serious researcher and represent the > first comprehensive review of Confederates from Blount County. > > Winston County is complete. It is contained in a single 400 page > volume. Cullman County is practically finished. I have to make one > more trip to Cullman to review a single issue of a newspaper which was > omitted from the microfilm. Cullman contains two volumes. It should > be ready in about a month. Blount is just now available. Altogether > the three counties generated seven volumes averaging about 375 pages > each. > > Many of you have been following my progress and making inquiries for > years. I appreciate the encouragement. I think the wait will be > worth it. It was difficult to know when to stop. Just when you think > you have covered everything, another obscure source will turn up with > information which sheds light on our Confederate ancestors. I felt I > had reached a point of diminishing returns, and in this year of the > 150th anniversary of many of the events reported in the volumes, I > thought now would be the best time to squeeze them out of my computer > for the rest of you to see. > > The books are not cheap. You can get an idea of the expense if you > call your local paper duplication source and ask them how much they > charge per page to print something. Having said that, I didn't want > to produce a shoddy product which does not properly represent the > sacrifices of our ancestors. > > The books are $160 for each set of four volumes or $40 each. For > those who can't afford the books, area libraries are some of my best > patrons and you will be able to find my books on the shelves of most > by the end of the year. In particular, you will be able to see them > at the museum in Blountsville and at Wallace College in Hanceville. > They have copies of all my books and will soon have a set of the > Confederate books. If you are interested in your own set, I made a > first print run of 20 copies of each volume. Email me directly for my > home mailing address. > > Thanks to my "fans" and for your patience in the years it has taken > for me to complete this project. > > Robin Sterling > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBLOUNT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here's Part 20. Pam ==================================== Genealogical Publishing Co., op. cit. p. 115: July 2, 1788. James CREW, of Hanover, app't his daughter Unity STANLEY, wife of Thos. STANLEY [Power of Attorney.] [James CREW appears to have moved, apparently first to Rich Square meetin, NC?, and then to Richmond, VA? He was the husband of Judith Harris, daughter o Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris. ] ==================================== Wright, op. cit. p. 73: 2/8/1788. Reported that Lucy DRIVER and Gulielma LADD were lately married by hireling ministers - disowned. [Gulielma, daughter of John & Unity Harris Ladd, and granddaughter of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] ==================================== Brewer, op. cit. p.160: 8/11/1788. Clark T. MOORMAN & Thomas HARRIS Junr recommended to the consideration of the Quarterly meeting as sutable [sic] persons to be appointed elders. [Clark & Thomas "Jr.", the son-in-law & son of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] - p. 161: 10/1/1789. Thomas TERRELL, Pleasant TERRELL, Catlet JONES, Thomas STANLEY, Robert DOUGLAS, Elijah JOHNSON & Samuel PARSONS appointed to hear the reasons for the objections made to the friends recommended as sutable persons to be appointed elders. [Thomas Stanley was the husband of Unity Crew, and the son-in-law of James & Judith Harris Crew. - p. 17: 10/10/1789. Ann HARRIS (wife of Jeremiah HARRIS) hat almost wholly forsaken the attendance of our religious meetings and her general deportment also is inconsistent with our profession, we therefore disown her. [Anne Chiles Harris, daughter of Menoah & Anne Cheadle Chiles of Caroline Co. Jeremiah Harris had died by 1797 in Hanover Co., as his land was recorded as his estate that year {DAVIS, Virginia, Tidewater Virginia Families, op.cit., p. 469 (she cited Hanover County, Virginia Tax Records, 1797.)}] - p. 18: 14/11/1789. James HARRIS is in the practice of overseeing slaves contrary to the established rule of our society, we therefore disown him. [James Harris was the son of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris; his wife was Mary Cheadle,] - p. 167: 12/12/1789. George & Edmond WINSTONE [Winston] & James HARRIS' wife & children from Caroline are now residing within the limits of White Oak Swamp Meeting. Clark T. MOORMAN & Micajah CREW appointed to enquire into their affairs & produce certificates. - p. 167: 9/1/1790. A certificate from Mary HARRIS (wife of James HARRIS) and her children Benjamin, Judith, Elizabeth, Mary, Thos, Lucy & James to join them to White Oak Swamp meeting approved. [James & Mary moved their family to Richmond, Virginia after James was disowned by the Friends for overseeing slaves. James became a wealthy businessman; by 1787 he was the manager of the James River Canal, and James was named General Manager of the James River Company which built the first canal system on the North American continent,. His land holdings were considerable; he and Mary owned land in Caroline, Henrico, and Hanover Cos., and he had patented a large tract in Greene County, Kentucky. Mary Cheadle Harris appears to have not presented a certificate for herself to the White Oak Swamp/Henrico meeting, but her children are mentioned in the minutes on several occasions. Richmond became the capitol of Virginia just as James started His business dealings there, so the properties in that city would have been both expensive and a good investment. {DAVIS, Virginia, Tidewater Virginia Families, op. cit.; pp. 471- 472.}] ==================================== Genealogical Publishing Co., op. cit. p. 148: Feb. 4, 1791.-Robt SYDNOR & Lucy, his wife, to James HARRIS 400 a. (being same sold by James HARRIS to Jno. TAYLOR & by him to Robert SYDNOR Jan. 11, 1791, adj. Ambrose LIPSCOMB, Peter WINSTON decd, Mrs. CLARKE, Henry PRIDDY & Mrs. KING. [Note that this was the land on Sinking Hole Creek that James sold to Taylor in 1786.] ==================================== [END OF FILE] ====================================

Hi, all, Sent this yesterday, but there must have been some problem, as I haven't seen it come through. Wandering through other sources, I found that "Obadiah" Harris owned 440 acres of land on Wolf Branch of the Deep River in Rowan Co., North Carolina, which he sold to John Cheadle (II), of Caroline Co., VA, in October of 1767 (John's son-in-law, Samuel Hargrave, had also purchased land in Rowan Co. in 1766 from a different owner) (DAVIS, Virginia Lee Hutcheson: Tidewater Virginia Families: Generations Beyond; Copyright, 1998, by the author; Published, 1998, by Genealogical Publishing Company; Second Printing, 2004, by Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, Mayland, USA; ISBN #0-80631-578-4; LOC # 98-72719; p. 150. (Virginia cited Rowan County, North Carolina Deed Book 6, pp. 504, 505.) It seems highly-likely that this Obediah Harris was the Quaker son of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris, as he was selling his property to John Cheadle (II), an elder of the Golansville/ Caroline. (John Cheadle never quite made it to North Carolina, though, as he died in late 1767 or early 1768 in Caroline Co., VA. What eventually happened to this land is undiscovered by me, as the Caroline Co., VA records have been decimated, except for the Court minutes.) It also has not been discovered by me if the land that Obediah Harris owned in Rowan Co., NC was land that he himself had purchased, or whether it was land that Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris had previously purchased (remember that, under the primogeniture laws of Virginia, Obediah was his father's sole heir-at-law.) I have not been able to extract every record of the line of Benjamin & Sarah, but only some of them. Here is Part 19 of the children of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris. Pam ==================================== Wright, op. cit. [Records of Henrico Meeting] p. 73: 5/4/1788. Reported that James CREW continues overseeing slaves - disowned. [James, son? of James Crew & Judith Harris, and grandson? of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris {or was this really James, the husband of Judith?}] - p. 73: 5/4/1788. Jessee CREW has long neglected attendance of meetings and is in the practice of overseeing slaves and has lately joined in marriage with a woman not of the Society - disowned. [Jesse, son of James & Judith Harris Crew, and grandson of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] - Wright, op. cit. p. 14: Matthew P. TERREL (son of Thomas TERREL) of Caroline Co. and Salley MOORMAN (daughter of Clark T. MOORMAN) of same co married 11th da, 5th mo, 1788 in Caroline Co. Witnesses: Thomas TERREL, Clark T. MOORMAN, Jonathan TERREL, John PEATROSS, William PEATROSS, Pleasant COBBS, Thos TERREL Junr, Pleasant TERREL, Achillis MOORMAN, James PEATROSS, Rachel MOORMAN, Rebecca TERREL, Rhoda TERREL, Rhoda MOORMAN, Martha HARGRAVE, Sarah PEATROSS, Amey COBBS, Frances MOORMAN, Elizabeth CHEADLE, Ursla F. CHEADLE, Margaret TERREL, Mary HARGRAVE, Polley HEWLETT, Jemima NELSON, Ann McGEEHEE, Salley CHILES, Fanney TEMPLE, Mary PEATROSS. [Rachel Harris Moorman, daughter of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris, and wife of Clark Terrell Moorman; this Sarah "Sallie" was Ben & Sarah's granddaughter. Matthew Peatross Terrell was b. August 11th, 1762 the son of Thomas & Rebecca Terrell of the Golansville/Caroline Meeting (BELL, James P.: Our Quaker Friends of Ye Olden Time, Being in Part a Transcript of the Minute Books of Cedar Creek Meeting, Hanover County, and the South River Meeting, Campbell County, Virginia; Published, 1905, Lynchburg, Virginia; Republished, 1976, Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, MD, USA; p. 20.) ==================================== [END OF FILE] ====================================

Many thanks, Evelyn. I have located a distant cousin who just happens to live near Richmond, so she has begun searching in the library of Virginia. Yesterday she followed up on the Byars-Thomasson connection to Nathaniel Harris and made some good progress. She searched land records, after I forwarded your post to her. She plans on making more trips in the coming weeks. Paula Harris Wolkerstorfer On May 30, 2012, at 9:15 PM, EVELYN WALLACE wrote: > Paula W. asked about a Harris male associated with a Byars wife. I suggested she do a land patent (Virgina State Library website for land patents) search for the surname Byars, instead of Harris. She should look over other land grants which involve the Byars family. The oldest patents appear at the end of the long lists for Harrises (and even Byars). > > > I'm getting sleepy, but I think I did a surname search for Byars and up came this > summary mentioning a William Harris of Hanover Co. (Byar's Branch, Hanover Co. 1725.) > See bottom of e-mail. > > > Hsnover Co., an historic place, had most of its records burned at the end of the Civil War--alas for us Harris Hunters. > > Paula should try to obtain copies of an article, I believe, by Malcolm H. Harris, MD, published long ago, I believe, in The Virginia Genealogist--an article about > THREE William HARRISES in colonial Hanover Co. Two Harris males he decided were father and son, but the third one had different associates, such as Alves. So there is still more searching to do--for Alves. > > > Most patents mention a watercourse, so she may have to do some searching for different watercourses. And refer to a map which MAY show watercourses, as some of latter-day highway maps of counties compiled frequently by the Virginia Dept. of Transportation. I was warned by one of the Virginia archivists long ago, however, that sometimes the landowners changed the name of the watercourse (especially small ones) to match his desires--or more frequently, his surname. > > > I cut and pasted this from the Library of Virginia land patent area (website) and it may not transfer well to internet. > > E.W.Wallace - related to one of those William Harrises of Hanover Co. > > > http://image.lva.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/GetLONN.pl?first=420&last=&g_p=P12&collection=LO Patent > Author Harris, William, Capt. grantee. > Title Land grant 24 March 1725. > Summary Location: Hanover County. > > Description: 266 acres beginning at Thomsons Ash on the south side the Little River at the mouth of Byar’s Branch. > > Source: Land Office Patents No. 12, 1724-1726, p. 420 (Reel 11). > > Part of the index to the recorded copies of > patents for land issued by the Secretary of the Colony serving as the > colonial Land Office. The collection is housed in the Archives at the > Library of Virginia. > Other Format Available on microfilm. Virginia State Land Office. Patents 1-42, reels 1-41. > Related See also the following surname(s): Harriss. > Subject - Personal Harris, William, Capt. grantee. > Subject - Topical Land titles -- Registration and transfer -- Virginia -- Hanover County. > Subject -Geographic Hanover County (Va.) -- History -- 18th century. > Genre/Form Land grants -- Virginia -- Hanover County. > Added Entry Virginia. Colonial Land Office. Patents, 1623-1774. > > Library of Virginia. Archives. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am still trying to document the parentage of Levi (perhaps Martin middle name) Harris. At one time I had found one who was of Quaker descent, but moved and lost a lot of my records. He possibly was from Maine, went to Florida and married Dorothy Bozeman. Unable to track him much before or after that. He did have land patents in Florida. There was a Levi Harris who was ousted from the Quakers for "attending places of amusement" but I don't remember where I saw it. Any help apppreciated. Emma in NM   ________________________________ From: Pam Stone <pamstone@cfl.rr.com> To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 6:26 PM Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Benjamin Harrises Pt. 19 Hi, all, Wandering through other sources, I found that "Obadiah" Harris owned 440 acres of land on Wolf Branch of the Deep River in Rowan Co., North Carolina, which he sold to John Cheadle (II), of Caroline Co., VA,  in October of 1767 (John's son-in-law, Samuel Hargrave, had also purchased land in Rowan Co. in 1766 from a different owner) (DAVIS, Virginia Lee Hutcheson:  Tidewater Virginia Families:  Generations Beyond; Copyright, 1998, by the author; Published, 1998, by Genealogical Publishing Company; Second Printing, 2004, by Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, Mayland, USA; ISBN #0-80631-578-4; LOC # 98-72719; p. 150.  (Virginia cited Rowan County, North Carolina Deed Book 6, pp. 504, 505.) (A note to everyone:  PLEASE be aware that this Genealogical Publishing Company "rearranges" real ISBN numbers, so that it appears as an ISBN record number that identifies ONLY their books:  a CORRECT & RELIABLE ISBN number format is: X-XXXXX-XXX-X (a format of 1-5-3-1), but the Genealogical Publishing Company has altered all the ISBNs for the books THEY publish to X-XXXX-XXXX-X (or a format of 1-4-4-1.) (This publishing company, while their publications are reliable, appears to be narrowly-skirting the copyright laws of the United States.) It seems obvious that this Obediah Harris was the Quaker son of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris, as he was selling his property to John Cheadle (II), an elder of the Golansville/ Caroline.  (John Cheadle never quite made it to North Carolina, though, as he died in late 1767 or early 1768 in Caroline  Co., VA.  What eventually happened to this land is undiscovered by me, as the Caroline Co., VA records have been decimated, except for the Court records.) It also has not been discovered by me if the land that Obediah Harris owned in Rowan Co., NC was land that he himself had purchased, or whether it was land that Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris had previously purchased (please do bear in mind that, under the primogeniture laws of Virginia, Obediah was his father's sole heir-at-law.) Please remember that these records that I sending JUST record the descendants of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris, and NOT the descendants of John & Mary Stanley Harris, which I believe to have been descendants of a DIFFERENT Harris line. ALSO, I have not been able to extract EVERY record of the line of Benjamin & Sarah, but only a few of them. Here is Part 19 of the children of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas  Harris. Pam ==================================== Matthew Peatross Terrell was b. August 11th, 1762 the son of Thomas & Rebecca Terrell of the Golansville/Caroline Meeting (BELL, James P.:  Our Quaker Friends of Ye Olden Time, Being in Part a Transcript of the Minute Books of Cedar Creek Meeting, Hanover County, and the South River Meeting, Campbell County, Virginia; Published, 1905, Lynchburg, Virginia; Republished, 1976, Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, MD, USA; p. 20.) ==================================== Wright, op. cit. [Records of Henrico Meeting] p. 73: 5/4/1788.  Reported that James CREW continues overseeing slaves - disowned. [James, son? of James Crew & Judith Harris, and grandson? of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] - p. 73: 5/4/1788.  Jessee CREW has long neglected attendance of meetings and is in the practice of overseeing slaves and has lately joined in marriage with a woman not of the Society - disowned. [Jesse, son of James & Judith Harris Crew, and grandson of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] ==================================== [END OF FILE] ==================================== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, all, Wandering through other sources, I found that "Obadiah" Harris owned 440 acres of land on Wolf Branch of the Deep River in Rowan Co., North Carolina, which he sold to John Cheadle (II), of Caroline Co., VA, in October of 1767 (John's son-in-law, Samuel Hargrave, had also purchased land in Rowan Co. in 1766 from a different owner) (DAVIS, Virginia Lee Hutcheson: Tidewater Virginia Families: Generations Beyond; Copyright, 1998, by the author; Published, 1998, by Genealogical Publishing Company; Second Printing, 2004, by Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, Mayland, USA; ISBN #0-80631-578-4; LOC # 98-72719; p. 150. (Virginia cited Rowan County, North Carolina Deed Book 6, pp. 504, 505.) (A note to everyone: PLEASE be aware that this Genealogical Publishing Company "rearranges" real ISBN numbers, so that it appears as an ISBN record number that identifies ONLY their books: a CORRECT & RELIABLE ISBN number format is: X-XXXXX-XXX-X (a format of 1-5-3-1), but the Genealogical Publishing Company has altered all the ISBNs for the books THEY publish to X-XXXX-XXXX-X (or a format of 1-4-4-1.) (This publishing company, while their publications are reliable, appears to be narrowly-skirting the copyright laws of the United States.) It seems obvious that this Obediah Harris was the Quaker son of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris, as he was selling his property to John Cheadle (II), an elder of the Golansville/ Caroline. (John Cheadle never quite made it to North Carolina, though, as he died in late 1767 or early 1768 in Caroline Co., VA. What eventually happened to this land is undiscovered by me, as the Caroline Co., VA records have been decimated, except for the Court records.) It also has not been discovered by me if the land that Obediah Harris owned in Rowan Co., NC was land that he himself had purchased, or whether it was land that Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris had previously purchased (please do bear in mind that, under the primogeniture laws of Virginia, Obediah was his father's sole heir-at-law.) Please remember that these records that I sending JUST record the descendants of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris, and NOT the descendants of John & Mary Stanley Harris, which I believe to have been descendants of a DIFFERENT Harris line. ALSO, I have not been able to extract EVERY record of the line of Benjamin & Sarah, but only a few of them. Here is Part 19 of the children of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris. Pam ==================================== Matthew Peatross Terrell was b. August 11th, 1762 the son of Thomas & Rebecca Terrell of the Golansville/Caroline Meeting (BELL, James P.: Our Quaker Friends of Ye Olden Time, Being in Part a Transcript of the Minute Books of Cedar Creek Meeting, Hanover County, and the South River Meeting, Campbell County, Virginia; Published, 1905, Lynchburg, Virginia; Republished, 1976, Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, MD, USA; p. 20.) ==================================== Wright, op. cit. [Records of Henrico Meeting] p. 73: 5/4/1788. Reported that James CREW continues overseeing slaves - disowned. [James, son? of James Crew & Judith Harris, and grandson? of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] - p. 73: 5/4/1788. Jessee CREW has long neglected attendance of meetings and is in the practice of overseeing slaves and has lately joined in marriage with a woman not of the Society - disowned. [Jesse, son of James & Judith Harris Crew, and grandson of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] ==================================== [END OF FILE] ====================================

Paula W. asked about a Harris male associated with a Byars wife.  I suggested she do a land patent (Virgina State Library website for land patents) search for the surname Byars, instead of Harris.  She should look over other land grants which involve the Byars family.  The oldest patents appear at the end of the long lists for Harrises (and even Byars).  I'm getting sleepy, but I think I did a surname search for Byars and up came this summary mentioning a William Harris of Hanover Co.  (Byar's Branch, Hanover Co. 1725.)  See bottom of e-mail. Hsnover Co., an historic place, had most of its records burned at the end of the Civil War--alas for us Harris Hunters. Paula should try to obtain copies of an article, I believe, by Malcolm H. Harris, MD, published long ago, I believe, in The Virginia Genealogist--an article about THREE William HARRISES in colonial Hanover Co.  Two Harris males he decided were father and son, but the third one had different associates, such as Alves.  So there is still more searching to do--for Alves. Most patents mention a watercourse, so she may have to do some searching for different watercourses.  And refer to a map which MAY show watercourses, as some of latter-day highway maps of counties compiled frequently by the Virginia Dept. of Transportation.  I was warned by one of the Virginia archivists long ago, however, that sometimes the landowners changed the name of the watercourse (especially small ones) to match his desires--or more frequently, his surname.  I cut and pasted this from the Library of Virginia land patent area (website) and it may not transfer well to internet. E.W.Wallace - related to one of those William Harrises of Hanover Co. http://image.lva.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/GetLONN.pl?first=420&last=&g_p=P12&collection=LO Patent  Author Harris, William, Capt. grantee. Title Land grant 24 March 1725. Summary Location: Hanover County. Description: 266 acres beginning at Thomsons Ash on the south side the Little River at the mouth of Byar’s Branch. Source: Land Office Patents No. 12, 1724-1726, p. 420 (Reel 11). Part of the index to the recorded copies of patents for land issued by the Secretary of the Colony serving as the colonial Land Office. The collection is housed in the Archives at the Library of Virginia. Other Format Available on microfilm. Virginia State Land Office. Patents 1-42, reels 1-41. Related See also the following surname(s): Harriss. Subject - Personal Harris, William, Capt. grantee. Subject - Topical Land titles -- Registration and transfer -- Virginia -- Hanover County. Subject -Geographic Hanover County (Va.) -- History -- 18th century. Genre/Form Land grants -- Virginia -- Hanover County. Added Entry Virginia. Colonial Land Office. Patents, 1623-1774. Library of Virginia. Archives.

Many thanks for this reply. I know land patents are the way to go but have never searched them so your info will be a big help. Thank you for all your postings and your continued search/help to all us Harris Hunters. Paula Wolkerstorfer On May 30, 2012, at 10:26 AM, EVELYN WALLACE wrote: > > > Paula wrote: > > I am still trying to learn the parentage of Nathaniel Harris, > Group 2, born in VA in 1763 and m. to Martha Byars. I rarely read of > anyone in Group Two. > >> From E.W.Wallace > > Hi, my half-answer - have you searched the land patents which are online (abstracted, of course) at the Library of Virginia website?. I don't recall the URL presently. I just google for Library of Virginia, and up will come (eventually) an alphabetized list of *stuff* on the internet at that URL. > > Go down the alpha index to the L [for land patents]and choose the listing which includes the words *Northern Neck land grants* [these grants came from the Fairfax family as I understand and were different from the *ordinary* land patents. Those Northern Neck owners had to pay quit rents [look that up] to the Fairfax proprietary and are more like leases than grants.) > > These online land patents are alphabetized by surname, and your surname may show up in a *strange* patent as that person's lines [boundaries] are mentioned in the patent. (Don't forget those neighbors--and the watercourse. The neighbors may be in-laws, or may be in-laws several generations down the road!! They frequently migrated together. Some genealogists call this cluster genealogy. Get names of everyone who clustered together. And the watercourse is important too--main route of transportation, especially for tobacco.) > > Were I you I would try the Byars famly first, and note on which watercourse or other geographic markers there are--and what county. But be aware that the counties kept dividing. This is where an atlas, such as one > compiled some years ago by Michael F. Doran will help. It is called Atlas of County Boundary Changes in > Virginia 1634-1895 [Athens, GA: Iberian Publ. Co., 1987. The Library of VA bookstore, I believe sells a chart about boundary changes, which is cheaper, but it is somewhat harder to interpret, but it is portable (you can fold it and put in your carrying case.) > > What you need to know for your Harris family (at the approximate time and the place) WHO are his neighbors. And - what is the watercourse? > > Lloyd D.Bockstruck, author, lecturer, recently retired librarian of the genealogy section of the downtown Dallas, TX public library (a great place for Southerners to research)joked in a lecture some years ago in Richmond, VA: grooms always married a girl downstream (hence, what is the watercourse mentioned in the patent?) He then joked, the potential groom was so invigorated after the visit that he had the strength to paddle home!!! Imagine how heavily forested colonial Virginia was and how many streams there were to get to the sweetheart. Not to mention wolves and native Americans. (I read just recently that the hogshead of tobacco were rolled down to the stream for transportation downstream. No superhighways then. No truck either.) > > If your library has seven or eight volumes of Cavaliers and Pioneers, which are lists of land patents (except for the later > Northern Neck grants), I urge you to use these to supplement the online land patent abstracts. These books are wonderfully indexed, with not only surnames and given names, but also PLAces. Do not be hung up on one county as the counties changed all the time. Good luck. You will find cousins marrying cousins, of course!!!! > > E.W.Wallace > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Half-hearted reply to your query below: Since you live in Richmond, VA and if you are NOT working full-time, you MUST get to the Library of Virginia.  Otherwise, you may have to hire someone to do the work for you.  First, search LVA's online catalog of Virginia books (in a different part of the library--segregated as the theft is probably a problem) and ask about books by Ann K. Blomquist, who has had some recently published books about Cumberland Co. and its parent county Goochland Co. Unfortunately, Hanover Co., the adjoining county of old Goochland Co. is a *burned* county, and that is where some early Harrises were--on or near the Pamunkey River Henrico Co. is the parent county of Goochland Co.  (Dr. Benjamin B. Weisiger, deceased, has several books about early Henrico Co.  He gave permission to the FHL in Salt Lake City to film/microfiche his books.  So, if you cannot get to the VA State Library during its opening hours, check with your nearby LDS family history and see what is available on film/fiche for Dr. Weigiser's books.  Microfiche used to cost $15 cents apiece, and generally stayed at the FH Center permanently.  Films are rented for a limited time. These are the books I know about  Ann K. Blomquist's authorship.  of course, there are HARRISES in the indexes.  But you have to discover these for yourself, or hire someone to do it for you. Southam Parish Land Processioning 1747-1784:  Goochland, Cumberland, Pawhatan Counties, Virginia. (There are some late maps in the back of this book.  Several Harrises in index:  Note the bibliography also.  Useful.) The Vestry Book of Southam Parish, Cumberland Co., VA 1745-1792 Goochland County, Virginia Court Order Book 3, 1731-1735 Goochland County, Virginia Court Odrer Book 4, 1735-1741 Goochland County, Virginia Court Odrer Book 5, 1741-1745 These books are either by Willow Bend Books or Heritage Books, both the same now. There are earlier court order books for Goochland, but these books may be hard to find as the publishing company went out of business some years ago.  If anyone has them, however, it probably is the Library of Virginia--and the DAR Library, Washington, DC.  (Check when the Continental Congress is at DAR buildings.  No outsiders admitted--except entertainers and speakers.   Ad maybe the press.) TLC Genealogy, Goochland County, Virginia Court Orfders 1728-1735:  An Every-Name Indesx [Miami Beach, FL:  TLC Genealogy, 1992) TLC Genealogy, Goochland County, Virginia Court Orfders 1735-1737 [Miami Beach, FL:  TLC Genealogy, 1991) Be sure to note the neighbors, as they probably are in-laws, or may be in-laws down the road a piece--several generations away.  I found out my paternal grandmother was a distant cousin of her husband. Alas, she died in 1906, after the birth of third child.  Wouldn't have been neat to tell both those grandparents!!! E.W.Wallace ________________________________ From: F.Hill <fhhill@yahoo.com> To: "harris-hunters@rootsweb.com" <harris-hunters@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 3:59 PM Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Roll Call I have watched with interest at all the Harris information posted recently.  I have searched for the parents of my William Harris for about 23 years.  I will list the information that I know.    Thank you, Fran Harris Hill Richmond, VA   The following info is documented but I cannot find the parents of this William Harris. Gggg-grandparents were: William Harris married a Lurita Harris. This William served in the American Revolution. Children: Proof of these children is noted in the Harris-Apperson Bible which I have a copy of.  I believe this William Harris was living in Buckingham County, Va around 1800.     1. William C - born 10/12/1781 m: Judith Grizzle in 1801 (in a book that was passed to me, there is a note this William C. was born in Chesterfield County, VA)     2. Nancy - born 6/12/1779 m:  Francis Barnes Junor     3. Anderson - 2/12/1785     4. Lucy - 11/14/1789 m David Thomas     5. John - 3/1/1783 m possibly Elizabeth Jamerson     6. Richard - 7/20/1792 m: ?     7. Samuel - 11/7/1795 m: Nancy Apperson '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' I believe the Lurita Harris, who married William Harris was the daughter of the following John Harris of Cumberland, VA John Harris, believed to have died abt 1795 Cumberland County, Virginia Married to a Elizabeth Will dated 1794 Children: John Harris Richard Harris - born about 1755 - I believe this could be the father of Richard J. Harris who married Phoebe Harris in 1919 ...... Samuel Harris Thomas Harris Rebecca Harris Betsy Harris Lurita Harris, believed to have married a Harris, born about 1757 if she is the wife of our William Harris Betty Harris, believed to have married a Lasure Mary Harris, believed to have married a Bryant ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Paula wrote: I am still trying to learn the parentage of Nathaniel Harris, Group 2, born in VA in 1763 and m. to Martha Byars.  I rarely read of anyone in Group Two. From E.W.Wallace Hi, my half-answer - have you searched the land patents which are online (abstracted, of course) at the Library of Virginia website?.  I don't recall the URL presently.  I just google for Library of Virginia, and up will come (eventually) an alphabetized list of *stuff* on the internet at that URL. Go down the alpha index to the L [for land patents]and choose the listing which includes the words *Northern Neck land grants* [these grants came from the Fairfax family as I understand and were different from the *ordinary* land patents.  Those Northern Neck owners had to pay quit rents [look that up] to the Fairfax proprietary and are more like leases than grants.) These online land patents are alphabetized by surname, and your surname may show up in a *strange* patent as that person's lines [boundaries] are mentioned in the patent.  (Don't forget those neighbors--and the watercourse.  The neighbors may be in-laws, or may be in-laws several generations down the road!!  They frequently migrated together.  Some genealogists call this cluster genealogy.  Get names of everyone who clustered together.  And the watercourse is important too--main route of transportation, especially for tobacco.) Were I you I would try the Byars famly first, and note on which watercourse or other geographic markers there are--and what county.  But be aware that the counties kept dividing.  This is where an atlas, such as one compiled some years ago by Michael F. Doran will help. It is called Atlas of County Boundary Changes in Virginia 1634-1895 [Athens, GA:  Iberian Publ. Co., 1987.  The Library of VA bookstore, I believe sells a chart about boundary changes, which is cheaper, but it is somewhat harder to interpret, but it is portable (you can fold it and put in your carrying case.) What you need to know for your Harris family (at the approximate time and the place)  WHO are his neighbors.  And - what is the watercourse? Lloyd D.Bockstruck, author, lecturer, recently retired librarian of the genealogy section of the downtown Dallas, TX public library (a great place for Southerners to research)joked in a lecture some years ago in Richmond, VA:  grooms always married a girl downstream (hence, what is the watercourse mentioned in the patent?)  He then joked, the potential groom was so invigorated after the visit that he had the strength to paddle home!!!  Imagine how heavily forested colonial Virginia was and how many streams there were to get to the sweetheart.  Not to mention wolves and native Americans.  (I read just recently that the hogshead of tobacco were rolled down to the stream for transportation downstream.  No superhighways then.  No truck either.) If your library has seven or eight volumes of Cavaliers and Pioneers, which are lists of land patents (except for the later Northern Neck grants), I urge you to use these to supplement the online land patent abstracts.  These books are wonderfully indexed, with not only surnames and given names, but also PLAces.  Do not be hung up on one county as the counties changed all the time.  Good luck.  You will find cousins marrying cousins, of course!!!! E.W.Wallace 

I have watched with interest at all the Harris information posted recently.  I have searched for the parents of my William Harris for about 23 years.  I will list the information that I know.    Thank you, Fran Harris Hill Richmond, VA   The following info is documented but I cannot find the parents of this William Harris. Gggg-grandparents were: William Harris married a Lurita Harris. This William served in the American Revolution. Children: Proof of these children is noted in the Harris-Apperson Bible which I have a copy of.  I believe this William Harris was living in Buckingham County, Va around 1800. 1. William C - born 10/12/1781 m: Judith Grizzle in 1801 (in a book that was passed to me, there is a note this William C. was born in Chesterfield County, VA) 2. Nancy - born 6/12/1779 m: Francis Barnes Junor 3. Anderson - 2/12/1785 4. Lucy - 11/14/1789 m David Thomas 5. John - 3/1/1783 m possibly Elizabeth Jamerson 6. Richard - 7/20/1792 m: ? 7. Samuel - 11/7/1795 m: Nancy Apperson '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' I believe the Lurita Harris, who married William Harris was the daughter of the following John Harris of Cumberland, VA John Harris, believed to have died abt 1795 Cumberland County, Virginia Married to a Elizabeth Will dated 1794 Children: John Harris Richard Harris - born about 1755 - I believe this could be the father of Richard J. Harris who married Phoebe Harris in 1919 ...... Samuel Harris Thomas Harris Rebecca Harris Betsy Harris Lurita Harris, believed to have married a Harris, born about 1757 if she is the wife of our William Harris Betty Harris, believed to have married a Lasure Mary Harris, believed to have married a Bryant

> Which group are Benjamin and Sarah Harris in? Thanks. Sarah Group 4 > > > Thought we might get a drenching from > > tropical storm Berle, but not so much (we > > desperately need a week or so of gentle rainfall.) > > > > Here is Pt. 17 of the descendants of Benjamin > > & Sarah Dumas Harris. > > > > Pam > > > > ========================================== > > > > Extracted from: > > GENEALOGICAL PUBLISHING CO.: Virginia Land Records > > from the Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, the > > William and Mary Quarterly, and Tyler's Quarterly; Indexed > > by Gary Parks; Published, 1982, by Genealogical Publishing Co., > > Inc., 1982, Baltimore, MD, USA; ISBN # 0-80630-992-X; > > LOC # 82-81848 > > > > p. 100: > > > > RECORDS OF HANOVER CO., VA > > THE LARGER BOOK > > . > > - > > p. 124: > > Nov 5th, 1784 > > James HARRIS of Caroline to Malcolm HART of > > Hanover Town 400 acres wh. Harris, lately bought of > > Jno, GRIMES adj. Ambrose LIPSCOMB, Alex. KING > > dec'd., Henry PRIDDY. > > - > > p. 108: > > . > > May 10, 1785---John BLAIR, of City of Williamsburg, > > & Jean, his wife, to James HARRIS, of Caroline, VA, > > 864 a. St. Martin's, bounded on North by Pamunkey River, > > by BULLFIELD, tract belonging to Gen. Thos. NELSON, > > on E. by John TERRY on West by Chapman AUSTIN. > > > > [James, son of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] > > > > ==================================== > > > > Brewer, op. cit. > > > > p. 147: > > 10/9/1785. Representatives appointed by the preparative > > meetings: for Caroline Thomas TERRELL, for Cedar Creek > > Micajah CREW & Thos HARRIS, for Jenito [Genito, > > Goochland Co.] Samuel PARSONS & James HARRIS, > > who were present. > > > > [James, son of Benjamin & Sarah; note that he was first in > > Hanover Co., then in Caroline Co., then in Goochland Co.; > > his father had owned land in all three counties, as shown by > > the earlier patent records, the minutes of this meeting, and > > the will of Sarah Dumas Harris. So James may have been > > living in each of these places on land his father had owned, > > but James was obviously a quite capable businessman in his > > own right, and may well have been living on land which he > > had himself purchased. > > This Thomas Harris {Sr.} was the son of Daniel & Mary > > Hutchens Harris, and the grandson of John & Mary Stanley > > Harris.] > > - > > p. 147: > > 10/9/1785. Micajah CREW, Samuel PARSONS & > > Thomas HARRIS Junr appointed to visit Orrange meeting > > having some time been without overseers. [Orange Co., VA] > > > > [First record of Thomas Harris, son of Benjamin & Sarah > > Dumas Harris, as an adult] > > - > > p. 6: > > [FAMILY RECORDS] > > Thomas & Unity STANLEY, Cedarcreek, Hanover Co. > > Their children: > > Moses b. 15/11/1781 > > John b. 2/11/1783 > > Temperance b. 22/2/1786 > > James b. 10/3/1787 > > Joseph b. 9/2/1789 > > Benjamin b. 10/2/1791 > > Judith b. 28/9/1793 > > Abigal [Abigail] b. 19/10/1796 > > Unity b. 19/8/1799 > > > > [Unity Crew Stanley was the daughter of James & > > Judith Harris Crew, the granddaughter of Andrew & > > Huldah {Undiscovered} Crew, and the granddaughter > > of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris. A further record > > in this book on p. 11, reveal that Temperance Stanley, > > daughter of Thomas & Unity Stanley, died 29 Apr 1786, > > aged 2 mos. 7 days.] > > > > ==================================== > > > > Genealogical Publishing Co., op. cit. > > > > p. 124: > > Apr 19 1786 > > James HARRIS & Mary, his wife, of Henrico Co. to > > Jno., TAYLOR 400 a. on Sinking Hole Creek adj. > > Ambrose LIPSCOMB, Alex. KING, dec'd.; Henry > > PRIDDY, being land bought of Jacob HUNDLEY > > by Wm GRIMES & given by him to his son > > John GRIMES who conveyed it to said HARRIS. > > > > ==================================== > > > > Brewer, op. cit. > > > > p. 13: > > 8/7/1786. James CREW sold one of his fellow men > > into bondage and refuseth to redeem him, we disown him. > > > > [James, husband of Judith Harris, and son-in-law of > > Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] > > > > ============================================ > > > > [END OF FILE] > > > > ============================================ > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, everyone, Looking back through prior records in other places, I stumbled across a notation in the White Oak Swamp/Henrico Meeting minutes that indicated that James & Judith Harris Crew visited or moved to Rich Square Meeting, North Carolina, in 1781 [Wright, op. cit., p. 60.] Rich Square Meeting is in Northampton Co. in eastern North Carolina. They appear to have stayed only a short time, and returned to Cedar Creek, where, as you know, he was disowned in 1786. It appears that he made amends, and joined White Oak Swamp/Henrico Meeting. On to Part 18 of the descendants of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris. Pam ==================================== Genealogical Publishing Co., op. cit. p. 108: Aug. 20, 1785. John BARNAT [Barnett], of Goochland, to James CREW, of St. Martin's 25a. ==================================== Davis, Virginia, op. cit. p. 471: JAMES HARRIS James Harris was the son of Benjamin and Sarah Dumas Harris, and was probably born in Louisa County about 1745. . James was still in Caroline County in 1785, for he was requested to view the way for a road petitioned for by Paul Woolfolk; Johnson Faulkner, William Peatross and John Butler were to assist him. [1] He must have maintained homes in both places for he was identified as living in Henrico County that same year in a land transaction in Hanover County.[2] It is not known exactly when James and his family moved to Henrico County permanently. By 1787, James was listed as the general manager of the James River Company to Richmond. [3] [Virginia cited {1} Caroline County, Virginia Court Order Book, 1785, p. 96; {2} Hanover County Deed Book, 1783- 1792, p. 80; and {3} The Virginia Gazette {newspaper}, November 15, 1787.] ==================================== Brewer, op. cit. p. 152: 13/1/1787. Thomas HARRIS Junr. requests our certificate to White Oak Swamp, Henrico Co meeting of his right of membership and clearness from marriage engagements. John HARRIS & John W. MADDOX appointed to make necessary enquirey and prepare one. [Thomas, son of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] ==================================== Wright, op. cit. p. 64: [FAMILY RECORDS] Children of James and Isabella LADD: Clotilda, b. 11/3/1768 Benjamin, b. 3/10/1769; d. 10/9/1779 Ann, b. 29/3/1771 James Denson, b. 23/1/1774; d. 14/1/1814 Joseph, b. 18/7/1776 Mary, b. 25/3/1779 Benjamin Whitehead, b. 21/4/1782 - p. 71: Thomas HARRISS, son of Benjamin HARRISS, dec'd., of Hanover Co., and Chlotilda LADD, daughter of James LADD married 6th da, 3rd mo, 1787 at Charles City Co. Witnesses: Robert TERRELL, Robert PLEASANTS, John CREW, Benjamin CREW, John CREW, John BINFORD, Samuel LADD, William RATLIFF, Harrison RATCLIFF, Elizabeth HARRISON, Margaret CREW, Sarah CREW, Rachel LADD, Sarah LADD. Relations: James LADD, Amos LADD, Ann LADD, Priscilla LADD, James D. LADD, Thomas LADD, Samuel TERRELL, Thomas TITUS. [Clotilda Ladd] - p. 154: 25/8/1787. Representatives appointed by the preparative meetings: for Cedar Creek Thomas STANLEY & Waddy STANLEY, for Caroline Clark T. MOORMAN & Thomas TERRELL, for Jenito Thomas PLEASANTS & James HUNNICUTT, for Amelia William JOHNSON & Jesse JOHNSON, for Camp Creek Robert DOUGLASS & William CREW, who were present except for Jesse JOHNSON. [Genito was in Goochland Co., and Camp Creek was in Louisa Co. Thomas Stanley, husband of Unity Crew, and son-in-law of James & Judith Harris Crew; Clark Terrell Moorman, husband of Rachel, and son-in-law of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] - p. 17: Chlotilda HARRIS removed from White Oak Swamp, Henrico Co, by marriage and now resides within your limits, we recommend her to your Christian regard. Signed 1st da, 12th mo, 1787 James LADD clk, Unity LADD clk this time. [Clotilda Ladd Harris, daughter of James & Isabella and wife of Thomas; Unity Harris Ladd, wife of John & daughter of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] - p. 14: Nicholas JOHNSON (son of Christr JOHNSON) of Campbel Co and Martha HARGRAVE (daughter of Samuel HARGRAVE deceased) of Caroline Co married the 16th da, 4th mo, 1788 in Caroline Co. Witnesses: Jesse HARGRAVE, Thomas HARGRAVE, Joseph HARGRAVE, Pleasant TERREL, Thos TERREL, Jonathan TERREL, Clark T. MOORMAN, Pleasant COBBS, Matthew P. TERREL, Henry CHILES, Ben BURCH, Robert TERREL, Joseph McGeehee, Saml WINSTON, Ann McGeehee, Margaret TERREL, Salley CHILES, Ursla F. CHEADLE, Caty TERREL, Rhoda MOORMAN, Rachel MOORMAN, Sarah PITTRUS [Peatross], Rebecca TERREL, Sally MOORMAN, Salley ROGERS, Polly HEWLETT, Rhoda TERREL, Elizabeth REDD. [Martha Hargrave was b. 1761 in Caroline Co., VA, the daughter of Samuel & Martha Chiles Hargrave {this book, p. 3.} {Martha Chiles was the daughter of Menoah Chiles with his first, undiscovered Terrell wife; she was the half-sister of Pattie Chiles Hutchens.}] ============================================ [END OF FILE] ============================================

Hi, all, Thought we might get a drenching from tropical storm Berle, but not so much (we desperately need a week or so of gentle rainfall.) Here is Pt. 17 of the descendants of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris. Pam ========================================== Extracted from: GENEALOGICAL PUBLISHING CO.: Virginia Land Records from the Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, the William and Mary Quarterly, and Tyler's Quarterly; Indexed by Gary Parks; Published, 1982, by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1982, Baltimore, MD, USA; ISBN # 0-80630-992-X; LOC # 82-81848 p. 100: RECORDS OF HANOVER CO., VA THE LARGER BOOK . - p. 124: Nov 5th, 1784 James HARRIS of Caroline to Malcolm HART of Hanover Town 400 acres wh. Harris, lately bought of Jno, GRIMES adj. Ambrose LIPSCOMB, Alex. KING dec'd., Henry PRIDDY. - p. 108: . May 10, 1785---John BLAIR, of City of Williamsburg, & Jean, his wife, to James HARRIS, of Caroline, VA, 864 a. St. Martin's, bounded on North by Pamunkey River, by BULLFIELD, tract belonging to Gen. Thos. NELSON, on E. by John TERRY on West by Chapman AUSTIN. [James, son of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] ==================================== Brewer, op. cit. p. 147: 10/9/1785. Representatives appointed by the preparative meetings: for Caroline Thomas TERRELL, for Cedar Creek Micajah CREW & Thos HARRIS, for Jenito [Genito, Goochland Co.] Samuel PARSONS & James HARRIS, who were present. [James, son of Benjamin & Sarah; note that he was first in Hanover Co., then in Caroline Co., then in Goochland Co.; his father had owned land in all three counties, as shown by the earlier patent records, the minutes of this meeting, and the will of Sarah Dumas Harris. So James may have been living in each of these places on land his father had owned, but James was obviously a quite capable businessman in his own right, and may well have been living on land which he had himself purchased. This Thomas Harris {Sr.} was the son of Daniel & Mary Hutchens Harris, and the grandson of John & Mary Stanley Harris.] - p. 147: 10/9/1785. Micajah CREW, Samuel PARSONS & Thomas HARRIS Junr appointed to visit Orrange meeting having some time been without overseers. [Orange Co., VA] [First record of Thomas Harris, son of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris, as an adult] - p. 6: [FAMILY RECORDS] Thomas & Unity STANLEY, Cedarcreek, Hanover Co. Their children: Moses b. 15/11/1781 John b. 2/11/1783 Temperance b. 22/2/1786 James b. 10/3/1787 Joseph b. 9/2/1789 Benjamin b. 10/2/1791 Judith b. 28/9/1793 Abigal [Abigail] b. 19/10/1796 Unity b. 19/8/1799 [Unity Crew Stanley was the daughter of James & Judith Harris Crew, the granddaughter of Andrew & Huldah {Undiscovered} Crew, and the granddaughter of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris. A further record in this book on p. 11, reveal that Temperance Stanley, daughter of Thomas & Unity Stanley, died 29 Apr 1786, aged 2 mos. 7 days.] ==================================== Genealogical Publishing Co., op. cit. p. 124: Apr 19 1786 James HARRIS & Mary, his wife, of Henrico Co. to Jno., TAYLOR 400 a. on Sinking Hole Creek adj. Ambrose LIPSCOMB, Alex. KING, dec'd.; Henry PRIDDY, being land bought of Jacob HUNDLEY by Wm GRIMES & given by him to his son John GRIMES who conveyed it to said HARRIS. ==================================== Brewer, op. cit. p. 13: 8/7/1786. James CREW sold one of his fellow men into bondage and refuseth to redeem him, we disown him. [James, husband of Judith Harris, and son-in-law of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris] ============================================ [END OF FILE] ============================================