He wouldn't have been "King" until the early 50's or VERY late 40's at the earliest. He would most likely picked up the nickname during Korea or possibly at the very end of WW2. He would have turned old enough to serve in WW2 right near the end. It seems to me that he did say once that he had served in Korea. I haven't done anything in the 1940 Census yet but he might show up there as H. D. I'm thinking the 1950 Census is the best bet for that. I doubt that any "official" paperwork would be as King. Nicknames are seldom used on official and legal documents. On 06/15/2012 01:01 PM, Ira Harris wrote: > > Hello Billie, > > You need to look under King and H. D. also. > If that is the name he went by, then that is probably the name you may find him under. > > Ira L. Harris III > > On Jun 15, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: > >> I said I didn't have a "starting place" for my Harris research, and I >> don't have much. Here's what I "know": >> >> Harvey Dale Harris - For some reason didn't like his given names - Went >> by "H. D." or "King" - Never his given names. >> >> Born - Sometime during the 1920's - place unknown - Possibly Oklahoma or >> nearby. >> >> Served in the Navy. That's where he picked up the nickname "King". He >> was King Neptune in a Navy equator crossing ceremony. >> >> Worked as a truck driver, in the oil fields and ................ >> >> He had a "cousin", or at least some relation, that was a ranch hand on a >> "mega-ranch" up in Montana or Wyoming back in the late 50's. We were >> there once for a visit. He had another"cousin" that at about the same >> time frame had cancer and was given a very short time to live so they >> were traveling all over the USofA site seeing before his time came. >> >> That's what I have. As a starting place I extracted as many "Harvey" and >> "Dale" Harris's out of the 1930 census as I could find. I eliminated any >> that were obviously not him - female named "Dale", race, etc. I then >> created two web pages, one for Harvey and another for Dale. If anyone >> could take the time to look at the pages and help me eliminate any that >> not correct even that would be a help. >> >> Harvey - >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~billie0w/harris/harvey.html >> >> Dale - >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~billie0w/harris/dale.html >> >> Last time I posted someone posted a couple suggestions for research. One >> was military records. I don't have enough information to get any results >> from that. Any help greatly appreciated. >> >> -- >> “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain >> the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the >> government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. >> >> - Patrick Henry - >> >> >> _ _... ..._ _ >> _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

In a message dated 6/15/2012 9:56:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time, marybill60@att.net writes: I may never know who was the father of my Archibald Harris born ca1770's in NC, and died before 1830 in Fayette County, Illinois. But I keep searching anyway. He was an ordained Baptist preacher. Spent time in Fayette Co., Kentucky 1801-1809; Christian Co., Kentucky 1810-1817; Jefferson Co., Illinois 1817-1826; Fayette Co., Illinois 1826 when he ceased to make records. Regards, Mary If your Harris ancestor was a minister in the Fayette Co., KY area, you might try locating the 'Draper Manuscript Collection', Series CC (Kentucky Papers) by Lyman Draper. [Use WorldCat _http://www.worldcat.org/_ (http://www.worldcat.org/) to locate a library]. Another researcher pointed me in that direction and I found an obscure notation in Vol.11:297 that broke my brick wall on my GG-Grandmother, Eliza Isabella (Harris) GIBBS. She was the daughter of Edward HARRIS, Jr. & Elizabeth CAMPBELL. Elizabeth Campbell was the daughter of Robert Campbell & Rebecca WALLACE. Elizabeth (Campbell) Harris' brother was John Poage Campbell, a well known traveling minister of his time, b. 1767, Augusta Co., VA, d. 3 Nov. 1814, Chillicothe, OH. >From my notes for John P. Campbell: Annals of Augusta County from 1726 to 1871 by Waddell (Second Ed., 1902) p. 259 "Thomas Poage son of John Sr. was a promising young minister, who died in 1793. He had recently married a Miss Jane Watkins, to whom and his brother John, he left his estate. The witnesses to the will were the Rev. William Wilson and the Rev. John Poage Campbell. The latter and John Poage were appointed executors. Mr Campbell's name was originally simply John Campbell but he added the name Poage on account of his devotion to his friend, Thomas Poage." p. 314 "The Rev. John Poage Campbell, was born in Augusta 1767, and when about fifteen years of age removed with his father to Kentucky. He subsequently studied with the Rev Archibald Scott, in his native county, and graduated at Hampden-Sidney College in 1790. Having been licensed to preach in 1792 he was for a time associated with the Rev William Graham as pastor of Lexington and other congregation. In 1795 he removed to Kentucky, an d on the 4th of November 1814 died near Chillicothe, Ohio. Dr. Dwight of Yale College, pronounced Mr Campbell a remarkably accomplished scholar and divine." A Google search will provide more on John Poage Campbell as well as Lyman Draper. Annals of Augusta Co., VA is available on Internet Archive Digital Library _http://archive.org/index.php_ (http://archive.org/index.php) Good luck with your search. Jane

Hello Billie, You need to look under King and H. D. also. If that is the name he went by, then that is probably the name you may find him under. Ira L. Harris III On Jun 15, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: > I said I didn't have a "starting place" for my Harris research, and I > don't have much. Here's what I "know": > > Harvey Dale Harris - For some reason didn't like his given names - Went > by "H. D." or "King" - Never his given names. > > Born - Sometime during the 1920's - place unknown - Possibly Oklahoma or > nearby. > > Served in the Navy. That's where he picked up the nickname "King". He > was King Neptune in a Navy equator crossing ceremony. > > Worked as a truck driver, in the oil fields and ................ > > He had a "cousin", or at least some relation, that was a ranch hand on a > "mega-ranch" up in Montana or Wyoming back in the late 50's. We were > there once for a visit. He had another"cousin" that at about the same > time frame had cancer and was given a very short time to live so they > were traveling all over the USofA site seeing before his time came. > > That's what I have. As a starting place I extracted as many "Harvey" and > "Dale" Harris's out of the 1930 census as I could find. I eliminated any > that were obviously not him - female named "Dale", race, etc. I then > created two web pages, one for Harvey and another for Dale. If anyone > could take the time to look at the pages and help me eliminate any that > not correct even that would be a help. > > Harvey - > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~billie0w/harris/harvey.html > > Dale - > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~billie0w/harris/dale.html > > Last time I posted someone posted a couple suggestions for research. One > was military records. I don't have enough information to get any results > from that. Any help greatly appreciated. > > -- > “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain > the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the > government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. > > - Patrick Henry - > > > _ _... ..._ _ > _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I said I didn't have a "starting place" for my Harris research, and I don't have much. Here's what I "know": Harvey Dale Harris - For some reason didn't like his given names - Went by "H. D." or "King" - Never his given names. Born - Sometime during the 1920's - place unknown - Possibly Oklahoma or nearby. Served in the Navy. That's where he picked up the nickname "King". He was King Neptune in a Navy equator crossing ceremony. Worked as a truck driver, in the oil fields and ................ He had a "cousin", or at least some relation, that was a ranch hand on a "mega-ranch" up in Montana or Wyoming back in the late 50's. We were there once for a visit. He had another"cousin" that at about the same time frame had cancer and was given a very short time to live so they were traveling all over the USofA site seeing before his time came. That's what I have. As a starting place I extracted as many "Harvey" and "Dale" Harris's out of the 1930 census as I could find. I eliminated any that were obviously not him - female named "Dale", race, etc. I then created two web pages, one for Harvey and another for Dale. If anyone could take the time to look at the pages and help me eliminate any that not correct even that would be a help. Harvey - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~billie0w/harris/harvey.html Dale - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~billie0w/harris/dale.html Last time I posted someone posted a couple suggestions for research. One was military records. I don't have enough information to get any results from that. Any help greatly appreciated. -- “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

No matter what surname or family you are researching, whether you are a beginner or a veteran researcher, it is extremely important to have credible sources to back every fact you post online.. Sometimes it is valuable to pass along some facts you have found that can be used as clues, but make it very clear that these are undocumented facts. The further back we go the murkier the information can be and solid resources become essential. Good documentation will save all of us valuable research time. Lynn Symeon In a message dated 6/14/2012 10:10:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pamstone@cfl.rr.com writes: Hi, all, I have been previously-posting the line of Benjamin Harris (ca. 1698-1762), who married Sarah Dumas and whom I believe to have been the son of William & Temperance Overton Harris, and whom I believe was a brother of my Robert (ca. 1696-1765), who married Mourning Glenn (probably the daughter of John Glenn of St. Paul's Parish?) Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris were Quakers. I told everyone that I needed to take a break and gather more evidence to prove the line of Ben & Sarah further on down this particular line. Suddenly, there is an absolute storm of information regarding MANY different Harris lines, and none of them appear to have any close relationship to the lines of either my Robert or his brother Benjamin (as far as I can tell...) So I believe that I will be taking a break from this family research, as I think my documentation may get lost in all this messy and very unclear Harris family research. When I do have new research on the line of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris and their descendants, perhaps I will post it. What has happened to this country, that the entire public seems to now have such a very short attention span? I think that this is the result of the Internet: too much information, too fast, constantly- bombarding us all. Our population is getting less-intelligent very quickly. As a Librarian, I see this truth every day. Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pat, That is exactly my line, sort of. My direct line is thru Ransom Wesley's brother, Turner Harris, Sn. He is probably the Tur Harris Snr that is witness to Ransom Wesley's will. The only other info that I have is that Jesse Harris born 1730 first wife was Elizabeth Reid but have had no luck with finding proof. I will have to look into the Family Finder. Peggy Johnson > Peggy: > > > will of Ransom Harris > > _https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-20078-6590-2?cc=1867501&wc=10 > 921903_ > (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-20078-6590-2?cc=1867501&wc=10921903) > > > > This looks like the family of Jesse Harris said to be born 1754 Louisa VA > d > 1833 Davidson NC. > > > What is interesting is that there is a Family Finder that goes through > this > man that MAY carry Harris 8 autosomal dna. > > Jesse Harris Sr. ca 1730 1807 dies in Oglethorpe GA with second wife > Charity. > > someone from this family can correct my notes, but I have: > > Jesse Harris 1730 VA d ca 1807 Oglethorpe GA first wife unknown, m 2nd > Charity Webb widow of Justus Napp. > > Jesse Jr. Harris 1754 Louisa VA 1833 Davidson NC m Frances Ward > > Ransom Wesley Harris 1783 Rowan NC 1841 m Elizabeth Wood > > now coming down the tree from Ransom WEsley Harris, 1783 he has son > RAnsom W. Harris as mentioned by Peggy, but Ransom 1783 also has a > daughter, > Delinda, according to a FF tree > > Delinda (FF tree of G. C. Church) Harris b 1809 Rowan now Davidson NC m > Hope Skeen. > > > The FF tree of G. C. Church has a match going through Delinda and thus up > every ancestor she has. The connection could be Harris, WArd, Wood or > their connecting ancestors. > > If it is Harris, then the match is probably Harris 8 through a non > paternal > event. > > > As I understand it, no one can place Jesse Harris 1730 and no one has a > male to test from this line; however somebody from this line (male or > female) could do a FF to see what peripheral families tie into Jesse. > > This Church man potentially carries autosomal dna from a Harris 8 or > Gipson/Gibson going through this Harris line. > > > Pat Harris > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 6/13/2012 10:40:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > marybill60@att.net writes: > > i've often wondered if the given name of 'Ransom' was a Harris thing, or > was > it used by other families too. > > My Archibald Harris....born 1770's in NC, died before 1830 in Fayette > Co., > Illinois.......had a grandson named Ransom born 1837 in Fayette Co., > Illinois, son of Archibald Harris, Jr. > > ~Mary~ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dick & Peggy Johnson" <rbjmmj@comcast.net> > To: <harris-hunters@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 8:28 AM > Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Harris - Blackley Families, Granville Co., > NC > > >>I also have 2 Ransom Harris' in my family. >> Ransom Wesley Harris 1783-1841 m Elizabeth Wood 17 Jan 1804 and their >> son >> Ransom Wood Harris 1820-1886 m Margaret A Ward. >> This is in Rowan County (later Davidson County) NC. >> Peggy Johnson >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ira Harris" <barebear@insightbb.com> >> To: <harris-hunters@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:45 AM >> Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Harris - Blackley Families, Granville Co., >> NC >> >> >>> Barb, >>> >>> I don't know which one this is. I have not done much research on this >>> line. >>> I was simply passing it on for posterity. >>> I know that there were at least two, or possibly more, Ransom Harris'. >>> Years ago I figured out that this Harris line was not part of mine, so >>> I >>> did not go any further than a few names. >>> >>> Ira >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Source: Granville County, NC Genweb Granville County, North Carolina Cemeteries, Volumes 1 - 5 Compiled by the Granville County Genealogical Society 1746, Inc. ELMWOOD CEMETERY {OXFORD} ELMWOOD CEMETERY {OXFORD} is a very large cemetery with over 4 thousand internments. Therefore I am going to list only those with the name of Harris. You can go online at the Granville County, NC Genweb to find if associated families are buried in that cemetery. 68. Harris, A. Sidney (b. 20 Aug 1899 - d. 3 Feb 1961) (Section N 71) WWI 69. Harris, Argenia Adcock (b. 10 May 1856 - d. 14 Jan 1935) (Section O 65) 70. Harris, Audrey B. (b. 16 Aug 1912 - d.14 Sep 1979) (Section P 94) 71. Harris, Bessie Jones (b. 12 Jun 1883 - d. 8 Jan 1968) (Section G 20) Wife of John H. Harris 72. Harris, Bufort Herman (b. 13 Nov 1921 - d. 18 Oct 1999) (Section P 242) 73. Harris, Charlie Simmon (b. 22 Nov 1887 - d. 20 Aug 1967) (Section P 248) 74. Harris, Della Ford (b. 24 Feb 1923 - d. 16 Jan 1977) (Section P 231) 75. Harris, Eula M. Stewart (b. 4 Mar 1900 - d. 7 Oct 1948) (Section N 77) 76. Harris, Fannie Taylor (b. 27 Feb 1899 - d. 18 Mar 1976) (Section G 32) Wife of A. Waverly Harris 77. Harris, Frances P. (b. 18 Mar 1903 - d. 21 Nov 1980) ( Section N 71) 78. Harris, G. Waverly (b. 24 Jan 1893 - d. 25 Nov 1941) (Section G 32) 79. Harris, H. Grady (b. 14 Jan 1890 - d. 1 Jan 1968) (Section G. 32) 80. Harris, Hallie Dickerson (b. 22 Dec 1891 - d. 14 May 1984) ( Section P 248) 81. Harris, Henry Euriel (b. 1 Dec 1891 - d. 27 Jun 1969) (Section N 71) 82. Harris, Infant (b. 6 Oct 1946 - d. 6 Nov 1946) (Section O 65) Son of J. P. Jr. and Mary T. Harris 83. Harris, Irma Grant (b. 20 May 1899 - d. 25 Aug 1969) (Section O 65) Wife of J. P. Harris, Sr. 84. Harris, Isaac H. (b. 16 Mar 1854 - d. 11 Aug 1943) (Section O 65) 85. Harris, Jack (b. 13 Sep 1904 - d. 31 Jan 1969) (Section D 4) 86. Harris, James Elmo (b. 25 Jan 1908 - d. 28 Jan 1952) (Section O 78) 87. Harris, James Samuel (b. 13 Oct 1942 - d. 17 Feb 1995) (Section O 78) 88. Harris, James W. (b. 6 Jun 1903 - d. 21 ? 1965) (Section M 32) WWII 89. Harris, John H. (b. 20 Sep 1882 - d. 5 Jan 1935) (Section G 20) 90. Harris, John Pearson, Jr. "Jerry" (b. 16 Mar 1917 - d. 1 Apr 1989) (Section O 66) 91. Harris, John Pearson, Sr. (b. 18 Aug 1889 - d. 27 Aug 1981) (Section O 65) 92. Harris, Kathryne Dorsey (b. 9 Sep 1910 - d. 15 Jun 1994) (Section D 3) 93. Harris, Lillian Lanier (b. 9 Jan 1923 - d. 18 Dec 1969) (Section G 41) 94. Harris, Lumas Clemmon (b. 6 Aug 1913 - d. 11 Jul 1997) ( Section P 94) 95. Harris, Mary Brogden (b. 12 Aug 1910 - 12 Sep 1972) (Section O 78) 96. Harris, Mary D. (b. 7 Aug 1863 - d. 2 Feb 1923) (Section G 32) Wife of R. W. Harris 97. Harris, Mattie Beasley (b. 4 Nov 1909 - d. 4 Nov 1995) (Section O 66) Wife of J. P. Harris, Sr. 98. Harris, Mattie K. Nutt (16 Mar 1892 - d. 26 Dec 1979) (Section N 71) 99. Harris, Nathan Enoch (b. 28 Sep 1901 - d. 3 Nov 1994) (Section P 78) 100. Harris, Raymond C. (b. 28 Jun 1900 - d. 17 May 1966) (Section N 77) 101. Harris, Richard W. (b. 31 Aug 1856 - 12 Oct 1918) (Section G 32) 102. Harris, Robert L. (b. 22 Apr 1916 - d. 10 Feb 1976) (Section P 94) 103. Harris, Ruth Harris Mitchell (b. 19 Mar 1894 - 9 Sep 1979) (Section A 2) 104. Harris, Sarah T. (b. 12 Sep 1902 - d. 7 Aug 1951) (Section P 78) 105. Harris, Sue T. (b. 1874 - 1953) (Section P 94) 106. Harris, Thomas Caleb (b. 5 Feb 1874 - d. 3 Dec 1948) (Section O 65) 107. Harris, Thomas W. (b. 5 Aug 1905 - d. 17 Oct 1951) (Section O 66) ********************************* Does anyone recognize any of these Harris people? Any information is appreciated. You may have the piece of information that will open up one of the DNA Groups. Please respond through HH so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Group 6, Harris Y-DNA Family Study Line of Robert Harris of Ware Creek, New Kent County, Virginia

Pam, I appreciate your effort in posting your lineage, and I have read all your postings. But the fact remains that your line is probably not my line of Harris. If you will go the the Harris y-DNA results page you will discover that there are already 49 groups of unrelated tested Harris lines, besides all the other tested Harris' who are unassigned to a group because there is only one person tested from his line. I want everyone to know I appreciate their in-put because you never know when someone will post a clue to your own line of Harris. I may never know who was the father of my Archibald Harris born ca1770's in NC, and died before 1830 in Fayette County, Illinois. But I keep searching anyway. He was an ordained Baptist preacher. Spent time in Fayette Co., Kentucky 1801-1809; Christian Co., Kentucky 1810-1817; Jefferson Co., Illinois 1817-1826; Fayette Co., Illinois 1826 when he ceased to make records. Regards, Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Stone" <pamstone@cfl.rr.com> To: <harris-hunters@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 9:07 PM Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Wow! Suddenly this line is very busy! > Hi, all, > > > > I have been previously-posting the line of Benjamin > > Harris (ca. 1698-1762), who married Sarah Dumas > > and whom I believe to have been the son of William > > & Temperance Overton Harris, and whom I believe > > was a brother of my Robert (ca. 1696-1765), who > > married Mourning Glenn (probably the daughter > > of John Glenn of St. Paul's Parish?) > > > > Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris were Quakers. > > > > I told everyone that I needed to take a break and > > gather more evidence to prove the line of Ben > > & Sarah further on down this particular line. > > > Suddenly, there is an absolute storm of information > > regarding MANY different Harris lines, and none of > > them appear to have any close relationship to the > > lines of either my Robert or his brother Benjamin > > (as far as I can tell...) > > > > So I believe that I will be taking a break from > > this family research, as I think my documentation > > may get lost in all this messy and very unclear Harris > > family research. > > > > When I do have new research on the line of > > Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris and their > > descendants, perhaps I will post it. > > > > What has happened to this country, that > > the entire public seems to now have > > such a very short attention span? > > > > I think that this is the result of the Internet: > > too much information, too fast, constantly- > > bombarding us all. > > > > Our population is getting less-intelligent > > very quickly. > > > > As a Librarian, I see this truth every day. > > > > Pam > > pamstone@cfl.rr.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A reminder that Harris-Hunters is open to all Harris surname researchers without limitation of geography, time or lineage. Posts are maintained on the archive in perpetuity so that future researchers can benefit and share information. Meanwhile, it is wholly unacceptable at any time for someone to denigrate the efforts and inquiries of other researchers. Mitch Harris HH moderator 

Sometimes I  find myself walking into a room where people have already been talking, and I haven't yet made myself aware of everything that has already been said before I say or do something. Everyone has probably been in that situation. Since I'm new here I suppose that is the situation. I have a number of Benjamin Harrises and a few Sarahs as well. There are Quakers and Baptists. However, I don't know how this fits anymore than I do the DNA connection between the Israel Harris line of Harrises and the Evan Harris line of Harrises. Where the Benoni Harris line fits in is something I don't know either, but there are some connections. It could be the two brothers who came across the ocean aboard a ship called the Vine from Liverpool; Hugh and Daniel Harris. Much is known about Hugh. However, the converse is true about Daniel and his descendants. I run across tons of information every day in my research and may run across what you are looking for accidentally or on purpose. I just need a brief update to give me an idea of location and time period. Sometimes I may run across totally useless information yet I find a research source that may be helpful to me or another. Please bring me up to speed on what you are looking for besides just the names and I'll see what I can find. Its sort of like fishing. It takes patience and determination; a bit of tenacity and resiliency helps because its sometimes frustrating. As I mentioned earlier, One of the family researchers is into her 90's and she has been working on this issue of who Evan Harris's parents were for her whole life. I understand Rufus Harris has passed away and he devoted an extraordinary amount of his time and effort to this He left good footsteps to follow. There are more than one other persons who are old enough to be my mother who actively work on this project too; and, I'm in my 60's. We may never know, but we won't stop trying to find out. Paul ________________________________ From: Lynda SoRelle <clsorelle@sbcglobal.net> To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Wow! Suddenly this line is very busy! I think everyone's research, in the beginning (and sometimes for a long, long time), is messy and unclear. Only through those little clues, tantalizing questions, and shared information does our research begin to take form. I encourage people to post their little bits of information; maybe it will help someone who has yet to figure out their Harris lines. Maybe, through these little tidbits, they can begin to form their research into a cohesive, well-researched, clearly written thesis. Or, maybe it won't help at all. Not all of us can be scholars. All of the information that has been posted lately has not helped me in my own personal Harris research, but I have read it all, looking for that little clue. Thank you to all who post their information, even if it is not a thesis. Thank you also to those who do post their 'thesis'. It helps us all, even if it isn't our own personal Harris family. Lynda SoRelle ________________________________ From: Pam Stone <pamstone@cfl.rr.com> To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, June 14, 2012 9:09:15 PM Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Wow!  Suddenly this line is very busy! Hi, all, I have been previously-posting the line of Benjamin Harris (ca. 1698-1762), who married Sarah Dumas and whom I believe to have been the son of  William & Temperance Overton Harris, and whom I believe was a brother of my Robert (ca. 1696-1765), who married Mourning Glenn (probably the daughter of John Glenn of St. Paul's Parish?) Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris were Quakers. I told everyone that I needed to take a break and gather more evidence to prove the line of Ben & Sarah further on down this particular line. Suddenly, there is an absolute storm of information regarding MANY different Harris lines, and none of them appear to have any close relationship to the lines of either my Robert or his brother Benjamin (as far as I can tell...) So I believe that I will be taking a break from this family research, as I think my documentation may get lost in all this messy and very unclear Harris family research. When I do have new research on the line of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris and their descendants, perhaps I will post it. What has happened to this country, that the entire public seems to now have such a very short  attention span? I think that this is the result of the Internet: too much information, too fast, constantly- bombarding us all. Our population is getting less-intelligent very quickly. As a Librarian, I see this truth every day. Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, all, I have been previously-posting the line of Benjamin Harris (ca. 1698-1762), who married Sarah Dumas and whom I believe to have been the son of William & Temperance Overton Harris, and whom I believe was a brother of my Robert (ca. 1696-1765), who married Mourning Glenn (probably the daughter of John Glenn of St. Paul's Parish?) Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris were Quakers. I told everyone that I needed to take a break and gather more evidence to prove the line of Ben & Sarah further on down this particular line. Suddenly, there is an absolute storm of information regarding MANY different Harris lines, and none of them appear to have any close relationship to the lines of either my Robert or his brother Benjamin (as far as I can tell...) So I believe that I will be taking a break from this family research, as I think my documentation may get lost in all this messy and very unclear Harris family research. When I do have new research on the line of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris and their descendants, perhaps I will post it. What has happened to this country, that the entire public seems to now have such a very short attention span? I think that this is the result of the Internet: too much information, too fast, constantly- bombarding us all. Our population is getting less-intelligent very quickly. As a Librarian, I see this truth every day. Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com

It happens all the time. A list will sit quiet for a long time, and then someone posts a request of help or some information and everyone realizes there are other people on the list so there's a flurry of posts. Usually in a short time the posts slow down till they drop back to nothing until the next time. Pam, I think the information you've posted is awesome. I've been reading with interest all the activity of late. Most everyone has done an incredible amount of research. The issue from my standpoint is that I don't have a start on my Harris research. I know next to nothing and can't get a foot in the door. It's been nearly a year since I posted what little I do know so maybe it's time to post again and see if any new people will have a clue that gets me started. But, that's another post. On 06/14/2012 09:07 PM, Pam Stone wrote: > Hi, all, > Hi > > > I have been previously-posting the line of Benjamin > > Harris (ca. 1698-1762), who married Sarah Dumas > > and whom I believe to have been the son of William > > & Temperance Overton Harris, and whom I believe > > was a brother of my Robert (ca. 1696-1765), who > > married Mourning Glenn (probably the daughter > > of John Glenn of St. Paul's Parish?) > > > > Benjamin& Sarah Dumas Harris were Quakers. > > > > I told everyone that I needed to take a break and > > gather more evidence to prove the line of Ben > > & Sarah further on down this particular line. > > > Suddenly, there is an absolute storm of information > > regarding MANY different Harris lines, and none of > > them appear to have any close relationship to the > > lines of either my Robert or his brother Benjamin > > (as far as I can tell...) > > > > So I believe that I will be taking a break from > > this family research, as I think my documentation > > may get lost in all this messy and very unclear Harris > > family research. > > > > When I do have new research on the line of > > Benjamin& Sarah Dumas Harris and their > > descendants, perhaps I will post it. > > > > What has happened to this country, that > > the entire public seems to now have > > such a very short attention span? > > > > I think that this is the result of the Internet: > > too much information, too fast, constantly- > > bombarding us all. > > > > Our population is getting less-intelligent > > very quickly. > > > > As a Librarian, I see this truth every day. > > > > Pam > > pamstone@cfl.rr.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

I think everyone's research, in the beginning (and sometimes for a long, long time), is messy and unclear. Only through those little clues, tantalizing questions, and shared information does our research begin to take form. I encourage people to post their little bits of information; maybe it will help someone who has yet to figure out their Harris lines. Maybe, through these little tidbits, they can begin to form their research into a cohesive, well-researched, clearly written thesis. Or, maybe it won't help at all. Not all of us can be scholars. All of the information that has been posted lately has not helped me in my own personal Harris research, but I have read it all, looking for that little clue. Thank you to all who post their information, even if it is not a thesis. Thank you also to those who do post their 'thesis'. It helps us all, even if it isn't our own personal Harris family. Lynda SoRelle ________________________________ From: Pam Stone <pamstone@cfl.rr.com> To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, June 14, 2012 9:09:15 PM Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Wow! Suddenly this line is very busy! Hi, all, I have been previously-posting the line of Benjamin Harris (ca. 1698-1762), who married Sarah Dumas and whom I believe to have been the son of William & Temperance Overton Harris, and whom I believe was a brother of my Robert (ca. 1696-1765), who married Mourning Glenn (probably the daughter of John Glenn of St. Paul's Parish?) Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris were Quakers. I told everyone that I needed to take a break and gather more evidence to prove the line of Ben & Sarah further on down this particular line. Suddenly, there is an absolute storm of information regarding MANY different Harris lines, and none of them appear to have any close relationship to the lines of either my Robert or his brother Benjamin (as far as I can tell...) So I believe that I will be taking a break from this family research, as I think my documentation may get lost in all this messy and very unclear Harris family research. When I do have new research on the line of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris and their descendants, perhaps I will post it. What has happened to this country, that the entire public seems to now have such a very short attention span? I think that this is the result of the Internet: too much information, too fast, constantly- bombarding us all. Our population is getting less-intelligent very quickly. As a Librarian, I see this truth every day. Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

With respect to O. Herbert Harris, Ancestry has his Death Cert. and WW-II Draft Card: Oliver Herbert Harris, son of Oliver Perry Harris and Carrie Daniel. b. 25 Sep 1908--Franklin Co., NC (From WW-II Draft Card), d. 18 May 1974--Rt. 1, Creedmoor, Granville Co., NC Also Lived in Clinton, Sampson co., NC (From WW-II Draft Card) Spouse of Mabel Allen Lived at Creedmoor, Granville Co., NC SSN 246-46-2162 Regards, Warren B. Carah Brighton, MI -----Original Message----- From: harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ira Harris Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 12:53 PM To: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Harris: Cemetery Records: Granville County, N.C. Source: Granville County, North Carolina Genweb Granville County, North Carolina Cemeteries, Volumes 1 - 5 Compiled by the Granville County Genealogical Society 1746, Inc. These are cemeteries that have only a few Harris graves in them. Name of Cemetery Name(s) of Harris' in that cemetery. OWEN FAMILY CEMETERY 1. Harris, Sharna (1974 - 1996) ***************** WEAVER FAMILY (Westbrook St. in Butner) 1. Harris, Caran (b. - d. 5 Jan 1903) Age about 65 years WPA records list death date as Jan. 1908 ***************** GOOCH FAMILY (Culbreth Rd) 1. Annie E. Roberts Harris (15 Sept 1856 - 18 Oct 1886) Wife of J. R. Harris ***************** STOVALL BAPTIST CHURCH 128. Harris, Eloise (11 Mar 1919 - 23 Mar 1919) Daughter of J. G. & Nellie Harris 129. Harris, Margaret Frances (23 Aug 1862 - 13 Mar 1924) Wife of A. H. Harris 130. Harris, Maxine (Aug 1916 - Apr 1918) Daughter of J. G. & Nellie Harris 131. Harris, Nellie Henry (9 Feb 1890 - 14 Jan 1920) Wife of J. G. Harris ***************** BETHEL METHODIST CHURCH 86. Harris, Clarence Osborn (b. 12 Mar 1915 - d. 19 Aug 1973) 87. Harris, Pauline Dickerson (b. 22 Nov 1920 - d. Reserved) Wife of Clarence ******************* BRASSFIELD BAPTIST CHURCH 56. Harris, O. Herbert (b. 25 Sept 1908 - d. 18 May 1974) Husband of Mabel Allen Harris ******************** MT. ZION BAPTIST CHURCH 247. Harris, Victoria Joy (28 Sept 1992 - 17 Oct 1992) ********************** GOOCH MEMORIAL PRIMITIVE BAPTIST CHURCH 49. Harris, Deliah Ferbee Suit (8 Mar 1854 - 24 Aug 1930) Wife of Samuel R. Harris 50. Harris, Mary Glenn (16 June 1898 - 15 Aug 1967) On stone with # 51 51. Harris, Roxie Lee (27 Dec 1882 - 11 Feb 1971) ********************* Does anyone recognize these Harris family members? Any help you can give will be appreciated. Please respond through HH so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Group 6, Harris Y-DNA Family Study Line of Robert Harris of Ware Creek, New Kent County, North Carolina ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Paul My earliest known (to me) Harris was Nathaniel Harris b 1763 in VA. He was married to Martha Byars. Their oldest son was Garrett Harris b 19 Mar 1792 in Smyth Co VA. Garrett died 7 Apr 1864 in Glen Twp, Bartholomew Co IN. He and his wife had the following children: Robert, Amanda Jane, Charles Edward, Patsy, Mary, Drusilla, and Nathaniel. I haven't tried to figure out how all the IN Harrises are related but because they are all in Group 2, they are somehow! Paula Harris Wolkerstorfer On Jun 13, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Paul Harris wrote: > Randall, > > > First let me introduce myself: My name is Paul David Harris. I am the 7th generation direct lineal descendant of Evan Harris, i.e., Evan was my 4th Great Grandfather. > > > Evan Harris > David Harris > Silas Evan Harris > > John L. Harris > Ernest E. "Ernie" Harris > 1/LT. Earl Loren Harris, Sr. > Paul David Harris > > I'd be happy to put dates of birth, death, names of other children, wives, and siblings if its relevant. > > > The Evan Harris who was my 4th Great Grandfather was born somewhere in Virginia in 1792 and turns up on the Knox County, KY Tax Rolls for several years between 1802 and 1809. > > > In this same time period (1802-1809) there are other Harrises in Knox County, KY such as Abagail, Henrietta, John, and (I think there is one or two Benjamin Harrises in 1810 not listed on the Tax Rolls. One of the Benjamin Harrises was a Sheriff and maybe the same or another Benjamin who was a Captain in the Knox County Militia. Benoni Harris and Benoni Moreland were also in Knox County, KY in that same time period of 1802-1809. These name recur elsewhere as a migration pattern takes place. > > > > > In 1810, Evan gets married to Rebecca Moreland in Hawkins County, TN. Benoni Harris signs or posts a $1,250. marriage bond for Evan and Rebecca Harris. Thereafter, Benoni sell 75 of his 200 acres on Robertson Creek to Evan Harris; which also is also contiguous to property of Benjamin Moreland (Rebecca's father). > > > Rufus Harris wrote a biographical of Benon/Benoni Harris that was published in First Families of Tennessee, Vol. 2. (attached). > > Many records were lost in Hawkins County, TN when the courthouse in Rodgersville got burned down. Some records survived because the Clerk of Court had them at his house when the courthouse was burned. Other records were lost to posterity when the British burned the U.S. Capitol during the War of 1812. In the latter instance of burning records, the federal census information for (approximately) 1800 to 1820 were destroyed. > > 1829 seems to have been a bad year for the Harris family. It was the year that Benoni Harris died. Two of Benoni's children die before him or somewhat contemporaneously. They were Evan Harris ( a five year old) and Thomas (a fifteen year old). Rufus omitted them from his biographical sketch of Benoni Harris. > > The early 1830's seems to been a time of epidemics like spotted fever and cholera for eastern Tennessee and eastern Kentucky. From the time of Evan Harris' birth (1792) until the migration to Indiana in approximately 1831, there was an overwhelming abundance of changes in boundary lines or jurisdictions. Tennessee had been a part of North Carolina; Kentucky had been part of Virginia; and, part of eastern Tennessee had been in the State of Franklin (a state that never got to be admitted into the Union). County boundary lines were rapidly evolving as new counties emerged from former counties, e.g., Harlan County, Ky was once part of Knox County, Ky. Similar changes were taking place in Tennessee and Indiana. > > > Evan Harris, family and friends left Hawkins County, TN and migrated to the area of West Central Indiana, i.e., Clay, Owen, Parke, Putnam Counties. This migration to Indiana created something of a split of the Benoni Harris family and Evan Harris family with the exception of Absolom Harris who was the son of Benoni Harris; he went with Evan Harris to Indiana. Benoni Moreland went with Evan Harris at about this same time. > > There was a Charity Harris who was indicated somewhere as being the wife of Israel Harris who turns up nearby in Putnam County, Indiana. Not sure how she fits into the family tree. There are others in Group 40 DNA that match very close to another 7th generation lineal descendant of Evan Harris (Harris surname Y-DNA match Haplogroup R1b1a2). > > > In this DNA match there seems to be a couple of Israel Harrises around Blount County, TN even though the children and wife of Benoni Harris wind up in Hamblen County, Tennessee. > > The location of Robertson Creek Harrises and Morelands would be near the present day county lines of Grainger, Hawkins, and Hamblen County, Tennessee. It still perplexes me as to a more specific location for the Harrises in Knox County, Kentucky for one reason. > > In the day and times of Evan Harris and for some time thereafter, a dead person would be buried quite soon after his/her death and quite nearby. In many instances on the property where they lived or the nearest church, or nearest town cemetery. Who was buried nearby might denote a relationship or tombstone inscription with dates or other relevant information. Usually a persons will would be probated in the county where they died, but ambiguity sets in when county lines are modified and which county keeps the record after the split ? > > > Since Benoni is only four years older than Evan, I would speculate that they are brothers and would really be fascinated to see one of his descendants DNA report. (preferably a 7th generation lineal descendant with the surname Harris) > > Benoni and Evan were both farmers and up until the invention of the automobile they continued in this pattern of occupations for the most part. They and their descendants were mostly landowners as opposed to sharecroppers and I suppose I'll find a better location for them in Kentucky in the plat books and land grants for that area. There seems to be a pattern that evolves of honoring one's ascendants by naming children after their forefathers. Recurring names most prominent are Evan, John, Benjamin, Thomas & James. > > It was a generation or two after Evan Harris before my ancestors could write their own names with more than an "X" mark. No slave owners in my line of descent. They were all Baptists with the notation that Rebecca was or came from a family of Quakers. Just hard working honest farmers with a lot of children at every generation until the automobile came along. > > > Since Randall mentioned Sullivan County, Indiana in approximately the time period I couldn't help but take notice and introduce myself. I'm sure there are other persons who moved with Evan and his entourage to Indiana, perhaps some sooner and some later; and some at the same time. > > > I am quite committed to finding out who Evan's parents and ancestors are. I have a number of my relatives diligently working on this for many years. One of them is in her 90's I suppose and she has been in search of this information her entire life. Thus, it seems, time is of the essence for me to accomplish my goals. > > Any input would be greatly appreciated, > > Paul David Harris > > pony03e@yahoo.com > > > (copy and paste into email recipient address works better to avoid a Mailer-Daemon) > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "randall.l.harris@sbcglobal.net" <randall.l.harris@sbcglobal.net> > To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:43 PM > Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Tyre Harris > > Tyre (Tyree or Tyra) Harris TimeLine > There are at least two Tyre Harris’s in Kentucky during this time frame. > One in Nelson Co., KY and the other in Madison and Garrard Counties, KY. I > am try to follow the Tyre Harris in Nelson County because I find him and his > wife Susanna in Sullivan County, Indiana in 1820s. > > The reason I am following Tyre Harris is that I am speculating that he is > related to Benjamin Harris, my direct line (1776-1848, DNA Group 2). If > anyone can shed light on this Tyre Harris please feel free to shine forth. > > Marriage of Tyre Harris to Susanna (Suzannah) Case > Record title:Kentucky Marriages, 1785-1979 > Groom's' name:Tyre Harris > Bride's' name:Susanna Case > Marriage date:05 Jul 1802 (or 1805) > Marriage place:Bardstown, Nelson, Kentucky > Indexing project (batch) number:M01678-4 > System origin:Kentucky-EASy > Source film number:1929414 > > > Certificate of the Register of the General Land Office at Jeffersonville on > 13 September 1818. Richard Wall (assignee of Tyre Harris) NE¼ of Section 10 > in Township 2N of range 2E. [NE Claysville, Vernon Township of Washington > County, Indiana] > > United States General Land Office certificate No. 79 given 18 April 1821 to > Tyre Harris of Washington County, Indiana 80 acres in Sullivan County, > Indiana The East half of the NE quarter of Section 33, Township 9N Range 9W. > > United States General Land Office certificate No. 80 given 28 August 1821 to > Tyre Harris of Washington County, Indiana 29.98 acres in Sullivan County, > Indiana. The East half of the NE quarter of Section 4 in Township 8N North > Range 9W. > >> From the records of the Little Flock Church by Rachael K. Harris as > published in the Sullivan County Historical Society, Inc. Volume 35, No. 3, > March 2011, pages 37-38. > “The land in which the church cemetery was founded was deeded by Tyre Harris > one of the first members and was purchased in 1826. The old, yellow with > age deed which was made at the county capitol, then at Merom is in the > possession of the present clerk, Miss Ethel Thompson, Also all of the church > records, a great number of which especially the early ones, being written in > a clear legible hand with goose-quill pen. The language is clear and to the > point the spelling a little different in some instances. Tyre Harris and Wm > B. Eldridge (paternal grandfathers of Jennie Eldridge DeVol) did the > preaching from 1821 to 1824. The founders of the church were as follows: > Tyre Harris, Susannah, John Hadges, Polly Morgan, Mary Hill, Elizabeth > Anderson, Robert Anderson, Betsy Morgan, Sarah Eldridge, Patience Cummins.” > > Little Flock Baptist Church 1821 > The church originally met in a log building in 1826, a frame building 1846, > and a third structure in 1871. > > The following was copied on December 27, 2011 at the Sullivan County Library > The following is a summary of papers on Little Flock Baptist Church. > > 1 ½ acres of land bought for $50 from Tyre Harris & Susanna his wife on 29 > July 1826. It was part of the NE quarter, Section 4 in Township number 8 > North of Range number nine West in land bounded as follows to wit. Beginning > at a stake standing on the East line of D_____ North East Corner of said > quarter running from thence South on to line fif West sixteen rods to a > stake thence North fifteen rods to a stake thence beginning containing one > acre and a half of land … > > The Little Flock Church was organized in June, 1821. The charter members > were Tyre Harris, Susanah Harris, John Hodges, Polly Morgan, Mary Hill, > Robert Anderson, Elizaeth Anderson, Sarah Anderson, Betsy Anderson, Sarah > Eldridge, and Patience Cummins. Formerly belonged to Union Association. > > Little Flock member roll: > Names When When dismissed > letter > Tyre Harris > Susannah Harris Jan 10, 1929 > John Hodges Nov 13, 1824 > Polly Morgan Aug 7, 1824 > Mary Hill Aug 7, 1824 > Elizabeth Anderson Is nee Elizabeth Pounds July 10, 1822 > Robert Anderson, senr > Sarah Anderson Dec 8, 1833 > Patience Cummins > John Grant Aug 11, 1821 bapt June 7, 1823 > Hanna Grant Aug 11, 1821 letter June 7, 1823 > George Rusher Nov 16, 1822 letter > John Graham Nov 16, 1823 letter Oct 11, 1823 > Eliza Anderson Dec 7, 1822 letter June 20, 1840 > Robert Anderson, jr Dec 7, 1822 bapt March 26 1840 (father of my Cynthia > Ann Anderson) > Abraham Anderson April 10, 1823 letter > Benjamin Siner Aug 9, 1823 letter July 8, 1826 > Polly Siner Aug 9, 1823 letter > > Sullivan Co., Indiana 1830 Census shows Tyre Harris > Males > Under 5: = 1 > 15 thru 19: = 1 > 20 thru 29: = 1 > 40 thru 49: = 1 > 70 thru 79: = 1 > Females > Under 5: = 1 > 5 thru 9: = 1 > 10 thru 14: = 1 > 15 thru 19: = 1 > 40 thru 49: = 1 > Persons Under 20: = 6 > Persons 20 thru 49: = 3 > Total: = 10 > > Sullivan County, Indiana 1840 shows Susan Harris > Name: Susan Harris, County: Sullivan, State: Indiana > Males > 10 thru 14: = 1 > Females > Under 5: = 1 > 10 thru 14: = 1 > 15 thru 19: = 1 > 20 thru 29: = 1 > 50 thru 59: = 1 > Total = 6 > > End of information concerning Tyre & Susanna Harris. The Sullivan Co. > Courthouse burned in 1850 and so there are no will and probate records prior > to 1850. Sullivan has good cemetery records and I have not found either > Tyre or Susanna listed as buried in Sullivan County. > > Thanks for any help you can provide. > Randall Harris > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I recognize the names buried in the Banks Cemetery. Thomas Lee Harris was my grandmother's half-brother. Because of the sequence of gravesites, the Louis Harris must be related; I can't remember who he was, and I'm still not back to my databases. Lavinia Jenkins was definitely Thomas Lee's wife. Banks Methodist Church is in the same general part of Granville Co - 3-4 miles from Gray Rock Church. These are descendants of Willis Nelson Harris, son of Hanson Harris (and Marina Cole), who was a son of Ransom and Susan (Sucky) Highfield. I don't remember the names in the Harris Family Cemetery that you listed, but from the directions, I know that it's very close to the Gray Rock Cemetery that you mentioned in your post earlier this week. These Harrises could be of the same family. These cemeteries are in southern Granville Co (where all the related Harrises that I know of lived). The other cemeteries you listed are in the northern part of the county. A few lived in Vance Co, but only a short distance across the county line. While this isn't always a reliable theory, from my research, it seems that these Harrises stayed in the same general area. Must have liked each other. : ) Caroline Sent from my Verizon Droid X2 On Jun 14, 2012 10:26 AM, "Ira Harris" <barebear@insightbb.com> wrote: > Source: Granville County, North Carolina Genweb > > Granville County, North Carolina Cemeteries, Volume 1- 5 > Compiled by Granville County Genealogical Society 1746, Inc. > > This is the second listing of cemeteries that have only a few Harris > graves in them. > > Name of Cemetery > Name(s) of Harris' in that cemetery > > BULLOCK UNITED METHODIST CHURCH > 27. William D. Harris (30 Sept 1900 - 20 Dec 1904) > ******************* > CALEB ADCOCK FAMILY CEMETERY > 2. Harris, Prudence (16 Jan 1828 - 2 Jul 1897) > Name part of head stone missing but WPA records indicate name as > Prudence Harris, wife of W. T. Harris > 3. Harris, Vasker Howel (27 Feb 1887 - 4 Mar 1902) > ********************* > LYON BURYING GROUND (Hwy 15 south of Oxford) > 1. Harris, Emmaline B. (7 Jul 1818 - 8 Feb 1892) > Broken head stone (foot stone EBH) > WPA records list Emmaline B. Harris, born 7 July 1818 and died 8 Feb > 1892 > ********************* > STOVALL MEMORIAL CEMETERY > 107. Harris, Clinton G. (3 Apr 1923 - 24 Oct 1944) > 108. Harris, Etta Mae (2 Jul 1910 - 25 Sep 1976) > 109. Harris, Jackson G. (1 Sep 1890 - 2 Sep 1951) > 110. Harris, Linda W. (8 Aug 1900 - 27 Sep 1978) > ****************** > ENON BAPTIST CHURCH (New Part) > 199. Harris, Carrie Daniel (13 Nov 1881 - 12 Mar 1938) > Wife of Oliver P. Harris > 200. Harris Ruth Euginia (2 Jan 1913 - 19 Feb 1935) > **************** > HESTER BAPTIST CHURCH CEMETERY > 322. Harris, George Franklin (28 May 1923 - 17 Apr 2000) > 323. Harris, George Franklin Jr. (28 Nov 1948 - 17 Sep 1999) > 324. Harris, Martha W. (12 Feb 1843 = 28 Sep 1908) > Wife of S. H. Harris > 325. Harris, Stephen H. (1857 - 7 May 1928) > ****************** > CREEDMOOR CITY (formerly, MAPLE HILL) > 9. Harris, Benjamin T. (11 Sep 1870 - 21 Aug 1925) > 10. Harris, Elizabeth Crews (b. 28 Feb 1877 - 7 May 1941) > Wife of B. T. Harris > 11. Harris, Holmes Moran (b. 7 May 1912 - 7 Jul 1914) > 12. Harris, L. E. Sr. (b, 26 Jul 1885 - d. 2 Oct 1973) > 13. Harris, Senie M. (b. 3 Jan 1887 - d, 28 Nov 1976) > 14, Harris, Thomas G. (b. 27 Aug 1908 - d. 29 Jul 1966) > WWII > 15. Harris, William d. (b. 30 Sep 1900 - d. 20 Dec 1904) > Son of B. T. and L. F. Harris > ****************** > BANKS UNITED METHODIST CHURCH > 122. Harris, Lavinia L. Jenkins (4 May 1865 - 8 Sep 1947) > Wife of Thomas Lee Harris > 123. Harris, Louis Steven (1 Jan 1915 - 23 Mar 1992) > WW II > 124. Harris, Thomas Lee (20 Feb 1861 - 12 Sep 1937) > Husband of Lavinia L. Jenkins Harris > ***************** > HARRIS FAMILY CEMETERY > (Take Hwy 96S from Oxford and turn left on Fairport Rd. Turn left onto Ed > Harris Rd. Bear right, keeping on Ed Harris Rd when Ed Harris becomes > Dorsey Rd. > The cemetery is in a field near the road on the right.) > Canvassed by Jessie Mclam, April 2001 > > 4. Harris, B. F. (b. 22 May 1806 - d. 6 Mar 1875) > 5. Harris, B. F. Jr. (b. 17 Jul 1857 - d. 20 Jul 1876) > WPA records indicate birth date 16 Jul 1857 and death date as 29 Jul > 1876 > **************** > > Does anyone recognize any of these Harris'? > Any help or additional information is encouraged. > > Please respond through HH so that others may be helped. > > Ira L. Harris III > Group 6, Harris Y-DNA Family Study > Line of Robert Harris of Ware Creek, New Kent County, North Carolina > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Source: Granville County, North Carolina Genweb Granville County, North Carolina Cemeteries, Volume 1- 5 Compiled by Granville County Genealogical Society 1746, Inc. This is the second listing of cemeteries that have only a few Harris graves in them. Name of Cemetery Name(s) of Harris' in that cemetery BULLOCK UNITED METHODIST CHURCH 27. William D. Harris (30 Sept 1900 - 20 Dec 1904) ******************* CALEB ADCOCK FAMILY CEMETERY 2. Harris, Prudence (16 Jan 1828 - 2 Jul 1897) Name part of head stone missing but WPA records indicate name as Prudence Harris, wife of W. T. Harris 3. Harris, Vasker Howel (27 Feb 1887 - 4 Mar 1902) ********************* LYON BURYING GROUND (Hwy 15 south of Oxford) 1. Harris, Emmaline B. (7 Jul 1818 - 8 Feb 1892) Broken head stone (foot stone EBH) WPA records list Emmaline B. Harris, born 7 July 1818 and died 8 Feb 1892 ********************* STOVALL MEMORIAL CEMETERY 107. Harris, Clinton G. (3 Apr 1923 - 24 Oct 1944) 108. Harris, Etta Mae (2 Jul 1910 - 25 Sep 1976) 109. Harris, Jackson G. (1 Sep 1890 - 2 Sep 1951) 110. Harris, Linda W. (8 Aug 1900 - 27 Sep 1978) ****************** ENON BAPTIST CHURCH (New Part) 199. Harris, Carrie Daniel (13 Nov 1881 - 12 Mar 1938) Wife of Oliver P. Harris 200. Harris Ruth Euginia (2 Jan 1913 - 19 Feb 1935) **************** HESTER BAPTIST CHURCH CEMETERY 322. Harris, George Franklin (28 May 1923 - 17 Apr 2000) 323. Harris, George Franklin Jr. (28 Nov 1948 - 17 Sep 1999) 324. Harris, Martha W. (12 Feb 1843 = 28 Sep 1908) Wife of S. H. Harris 325. Harris, Stephen H. (1857 - 7 May 1928) ****************** CREEDMOOR CITY (formerly, MAPLE HILL) 9. Harris, Benjamin T. (11 Sep 1870 - 21 Aug 1925) 10. Harris, Elizabeth Crews (b. 28 Feb 1877 - 7 May 1941) Wife of B. T. Harris 11. Harris, Holmes Moran (b. 7 May 1912 - 7 Jul 1914) 12. Harris, L. E. Sr. (b, 26 Jul 1885 - d. 2 Oct 1973) 13. Harris, Senie M. (b. 3 Jan 1887 - d, 28 Nov 1976) 14, Harris, Thomas G. (b. 27 Aug 1908 - d. 29 Jul 1966) WWII 15. Harris, William d. (b. 30 Sep 1900 - d. 20 Dec 1904) Son of B. T. and L. F. Harris ****************** BANKS UNITED METHODIST CHURCH 122. Harris, Lavinia L. Jenkins (4 May 1865 - 8 Sep 1947) Wife of Thomas Lee Harris 123. Harris, Louis Steven (1 Jan 1915 - 23 Mar 1992) WW II 124. Harris, Thomas Lee (20 Feb 1861 - 12 Sep 1937) Husband of Lavinia L. Jenkins Harris ***************** HARRIS FAMILY CEMETERY (Take Hwy 96S from Oxford and turn left on Fairport Rd. Turn left onto Ed Harris Rd. Bear right, keeping on Ed Harris Rd when Ed Harris becomes Dorsey Rd. The cemetery is in a field near the road on the right.) Canvassed by Jessie Mclam, April 2001 4. Harris, B. F. (b. 22 May 1806 - d. 6 Mar 1875) 5. Harris, B. F. Jr. (b. 17 Jul 1857 - d. 20 Jul 1876) WPA records indicate birth date 16 Jul 1857 and death date as 29 Jul 1876 **************** Does anyone recognize any of these Harris'? Any help or additional information is encouraged. Please respond through HH so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Group 6, Harris Y-DNA Family Study Line of Robert Harris of Ware Creek, New Kent County, North Carolina

I have a copy of Katherine Kerr Kendall's book [someone tells me Kendall's books are now on Ancestry.com, but I have not looked] Caswell County,North Carolina Marriage Bonds 1778-1868.  It was reprinted in a new format by Clearfield Co., Baltimore, 1990. The marriage you mention below (e-mail) is NOT included in this book.  Thinking there may have been an error, I looked at the index for brides, and the name Highfield does not appear in the bride's index. Caswell Co. was formed 1777 from Orange Co., NC.  Lots of fellows named Tyre or Tyree Harris, unfortunately.  There are errors in books, of course. Interestingly, in Thornton W. Mithcell's book North Carolina Wills, there are no Highfields listed.   Maybe there is a mix-up in counties.  Generally, in this time period, 1805, the marriage would have taken place in the bride's home county.  E.W.Wallace ________________________________ From: "PatCLARE@aol.com" <PatCLARE@aol.com> To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Harris - Blackley Families, Granville Co., NC Ransom of Isham is DNA 4 Ransom m Highfield is now DNA 2 >From the notes I have, a Tyre Harris  of Caswell NC was bondsman on  the marriage of Ransom to Sukey Highfield in1805 The DNA definitely separates these families from one another.  PMH In a message dated 6/12/2012 11:14:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  cvmccall@nc.rr.com writes: This my  Harris line. Yes, I think this Ransom was married to Susan  (Sukey) Highfield. I'm not at my computer to look at the database, and I've  been away from "this search" for several years, so I can't remember all  the details. My documented info is Ransom and Sukey, Hanson and  Marina Cole, Willis Nelson and Mary Bernard Conway and my grandmother, Lena  Armistead. The information handed down in our family (including the people  listed in this original post - Blackleys, etc) through the years is that  this Ransom was the son of Ransom who was the son of Isham. Somewhere I  have to find something to either prove or disprove this. Since there is a  will which does not list Ransom as a son of Ransom, I'll have to figure out  what happened - like a family split, or yet another Ransom. Can you  see why I took a break! Caroline Sent from my Verizon Droid  X2 On Jun 12, 2012 9:48 AM, "Ira Harris" <barebear@insightbb.com>  wrote: > Barb, > > I don't know which one this is. I  have not done much research on this line. > I was simply passing  it on for posterity. > I know that there were at least two, or possibly  more, Ransom Harris'. > Years ago I figured out that this Harris line  was not part of mine, so I > did not go any further than a few  names. > > Ira > > On Jun 11, 2012, at 7:01 PM,  Barbara Hensley wrote: > > > Which Ransom Harris is this?  Ransom Harris , son of Isham and Martha  ? > Harris ,only had one  son, Guilford. Might this be the one who married Sukey >  Highfield? > > Barbara > > > >  barbhens@sbcglobal.net > > > > --- On Mon, 6/11/12, Ira  Harris <barebear@insightbb.com> wrote: > > > > >  > From: Ira Harris <barebear@insightbb.com> > > Subject:  [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Harris - Blackley Families, Granville Co., NC > >  To: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com > > Date: Monday, June 11, 2012,  6:54 PM > > > > > > Source: Granville County, North  Carolina Genweb > > > > Granville County, North Carolina  Cemeteries, Volumes 1 - 5 > > Compiled by Granville County  Genealogical Society 1746, Inc. > > > > HARRIS - BLACKLEY  FAMILIES Cemetery (Gray Rock Rd) > > Location: off Gray Rock Rd about  2 miles east of Gray Rock Methodist > Church > > > >  This old cemetery is a mess. Scattered haphazard over a large wooded >  area, it consists of professional grave stones, home made markers and  field > stones. The inscriptions are hard to read for the most part.  There are many > depressions and low ground cover makes walking  difficult. There are > obviously more graves here than listed. >  > > > Some information in the listing came from Richard H.  Thornton Library > placed there in 1999. It was felt useful to include  here, as so many of the > markers had initials. > > >  > Canvassed by Jessie McLam and Kitty Humphries, February 2007. >  > > > > > 1. Blackley, ? ? (b. 1814 - d. 1903) >  >      Thought to be Lethia Harris Blackley, Daughter of  Ransom Harris; > wife of Howell Blackley (Son of William T. Blackley).  (not found in 2007) > > 2. Blackley, Charles C. (b. - d. 31 Oct  1876) > >      Brother of Howell and Woodson  Blackley > > 3. Blackley, Elizabeth B. Jenkins (b. 1805 - d.  1901) > >      Wife of Woodson Blackley (Son of Wlliam  T. Blackley); age 96 years. > > 4. Blackley, W. H. (b. 1817 - d. 1889  (1879) (not found in 2007) > > 5. Blackley, Woodson D. (b. 1812 - d.  1890) > > 6. Cash, Lula (b. 1 Nov. 1883 - d. 11 Jun 1912) >  >      Probably daughter of Virginia Harris. Wife of  Alfred Cash; > (Virginia - Daughter of Lucy Caroline Blackley and John  H. Harris) (not > found in 2007) > > 7. Champion, L. D. (b. -  d. 29 May 1894) > > 8. Champion, V. S. (b. 1850 - d. 26 April  1893) > > 9. Harris, Ann S. (b. 16 Jan 1825 - d. 11 May 1887) >  >      Daughter of William Blackley; Wife of Harvey  Harris (Son of Ransom > Harris) > > 10. Harris, C. E. (b. 16  Oct ???? - d. 2 Jul 1885) > >      WPA records  list the initials as L. E. > > 11. Harris, C. P. (b. - d. 28 Jul  1900) > >      WPA records list date of death as  26 Jul 1900 > > 12. Harris, D. E. (b. - d. 8 Dec 1888)  (not  found in 2007) > > 13. Harris, E. M. (b. - d. 21 Oct 1910)  (not  found in 2007) > > 14. Harris, Harvey (b. 19 Oct 1819 - d. 16 Sep  1903) > >      Son of Ransom Harris; Husband of  Ann Blackley (Daughter of William > Blackley) > > 15. Harris,  James "Jimmy" R. (b. 1812 - d. 1901) > >        Son of Ransom Harris; Husband of Harriett Blackley (Daughter of >  William Blackley) > > 16. Harris, June G. (b. 22 May 1854 - d. 22 Oct  1896) > >      Son of John Harris and Lucy  Caroline Blackley; (John - Son of > Ransom Harris; Lucy - Daughter of  William Blackley) WPA records lists date > of death as 22 Oct  1898. > > 17. Harris L. C. (Mr.) (b. - d. 14 Oct 1873) not found in  2007 > > 18. Harris, L. L. (b. - d. 22 Nov 1884) not found in  2007 > > 19. Harris, Leonard C. (b. 8 Jul 1841 - d. 18 Feb.  1912) > >      CSA, Son of James R. Harris, Son  of Ransom Harris > > 20. Harris, Martha H. (b. Abt. 1843 - d. 31 Aug  1909) > >      Wife of Leonard C. Harris,  Daughter of Woodson Blackley; age 66 > years > > 21. Harris,  Maude (b. 3 Dec 1890 - d. 1 Jan 1912) > >        Wife of Paul Hammie Harris (Son of Leonard Harris); Maude - > Daughter  of Robert A. Harris (Son of John Harris and Lucy Blackley) > > 22.  Harris, Robert Asa (b. 2 Dec 1849 - d. 28 Jul 1917) > > 23. Harris,  Rufus H. (b. - d. 30 Oct 1905) > >      Son of  John Harris > > 24. Harris, Walter Henry (b. Abt. 1874 - d. 10 Nov  1888) > >        Age 14 years; Son of James Atlas  Harris (Son of James R. Harris) > > 25. Longmire, Melkaza (Melchivia)  Green > >        Wife of William Iverson Longmire  (said to be buried here) > > 26. Longmire, William Iverson >  >      Husband of Melkaza Green Longmire. CSA. (said  to be buried here) > > 27. Mc Ghee, P. O. (b. - d. 19 Apr  1887) > >      Probably Parthenia, Wife of  Richard McGhee; Daughter of Lethia > Harris and Howell Blackley (not  found in 2007) > > 28. Parrish, Ed (b. 1869 - d. 1903) >  >        Son of Mary E. Blackley Parrish (Daughter of  Woodson Blackley) > >        WPA records list his  date of death as 1902 > > 29. Parrish, Mary E. (b. 1840 - d,  1901) > >      Daughter of Woodson Blackley and  Elizabeth Jenkins > > 30. Thomerson, Mary W. (b. Abt. 1840 - d. 11  mar 1911) > >        Wife of Fes T. Thomerson  (Thomason); age 70 years. Daughter of > James R. Harris and Harriett  Blackley; granddaughter of Ransom Harris > > > > Which  Harris line are these people part of? > > Hope this helps  someone. > > If you have additional information please post to help  your fellow > researchers. > > > > Please respond  through HH so that others may be helped. > > > > Ira L.  Harris III > > Member, Group 6 Harris Y-DNA Family Study > >  Line of Robert Harris of Ware Creek, New Kent County, Virginia >  > > > > > > > > >  ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list,  please send an email to > HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the  word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of  the message > > > > ------------------------------- >  > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >  HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe'  without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the  message > > > >  ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please  send an email to > HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word  'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the  message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from  the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the  word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the  message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I mentioned, I believe, in a previous message, that an index to North Carolina wills, up to 1900, which are frequently held by the NC Archives--but some in counties--has been compiled some years ago by Thornton W. Mitchell. There are three Ramsom Harrises listed in this book.  I will give the codes of the counties, and then give the *translation*.  And then there is one R. C.Harris After the name of the testator is the county code as used in North Carolina archives; WB is will book.  The year, I believe you can spot.  AR = will at NC Archives Harris, R. C. - 078 -1866 - WB 18-451; AR (078 is Person Co.; 1866 is the year recorded) Harris,Ransom - 100 - 1831 - WB 33/337 AR (100 is Warren Co.) 1831 is year recorded) Harris, Ransom - 032 - 1841 - WB 1/369  (032 is Davidson Co.) [not indicated where will is held] Harris,Ransom W. - 046 - 1886 - WB E/427 AR (046 is Guilford Co.) Source:  Thornton W. Mitchell, North Carolina Wills: A Testator Index, 1665-1900 Corrected and revised edition [Baltimore:  Genealogical Publ. Co., 1st edition 1987; corrected and revised edition, in one volume, second printing 1993], p 218. Your ancestor may have held land in another county, but that county may have divided, and the will may be held in another parent county than the one in which your ancestor may be found originally (i.e. land records, tax records, military records, etc.)

Randall, First let me introduce myself: My name is Paul David Harris. I am the 7th generation direct lineal descendant of Evan Harris, i.e., Evan was my 4th Great Grandfather. Evan Harris David Harris Silas Evan Harris John L. Harris Ernest E. "Ernie" Harris 1/LT. Earl Loren Harris, Sr. Paul David Harris I'd be happy to put dates of birth, death, names of other children, wives, and siblings if its relevant. The Evan Harris who was my 4th Great Grandfather was born somewhere in Virginia in 1792 and turns up on the Knox County, KY Tax Rolls for several years between 1802 and 1809. In this same time period (1802-1809) there are other Harrises in Knox County, KY such as Abagail, Henrietta, John, and (I think there is one or two Benjamin Harrises in 1810 not listed on the Tax Rolls. One of the Benjamin Harrises was a Sheriff and maybe the same or another Benjamin who was a Captain in the Knox County Militia. Benoni Harris and Benoni Moreland were also in Knox County, KY in that same time period of 1802-1809. These name recur elsewhere as a migration pattern takes place. In 1810,  Evan gets married to Rebecca Moreland in Hawkins County, TN. Benoni Harris signs or posts a $1,250. marriage bond for Evan and Rebecca Harris. Thereafter, Benoni sell 75 of his 200 acres on Robertson Creek to Evan Harris; which also is also contiguous to property of Benjamin Moreland (Rebecca's father). Rufus Harris wrote a biographical of Benon/Benoni Harris that was published in First Families of Tennessee, Vol. 2. (attached). Many records were lost in Hawkins County, TN when the courthouse in Rodgersville got burned down. Some records survived because the Clerk of Court had them at his house when the courthouse was burned. Other records were lost to posterity when the British burned the U.S. Capitol during the War of 1812. In the latter instance of burning records, the federal census information for (approximately)  1800 to 1820 were destroyed. 1829 seems to have been a bad year for the Harris family. It was the year that Benoni Harris died. Two of Benoni's children die before him or somewhat contemporaneously. They were Evan Harris ( a five year old) and Thomas (a fifteen year old). Rufus omitted them from his biographical sketch of Benoni Harris. The early 1830's seems to been a time of epidemics like spotted fever and cholera for eastern Tennessee and eastern Kentucky. From the time of Evan Harris' birth (1792) until the migration to Indiana in approximately 1831, there was an overwhelming abundance of changes in boundary lines or jurisdictions. Tennessee had been a part of North Carolina; Kentucky had been part of Virginia; and, part of eastern Tennessee had been in the State of Franklin (a state that never got to be admitted into the Union). County boundary lines were rapidly evolving as new counties emerged from former counties, e.g., Harlan County, Ky was once part of Knox County, Ky. Similar changes were taking place in Tennessee and Indiana. Evan Harris, family and friends left Hawkins County, TN and migrated to the area of West Central Indiana, i.e., Clay, Owen, Parke, Putnam Counties. This migration to Indiana created something of a split of the Benoni Harris family and Evan Harris family with the exception of Absolom Harris who was the son of Benoni Harris; he went with Evan Harris to Indiana. Benoni Moreland went with Evan Harris at about this same time.   There was a Charity Harris who was indicated somewhere as being the wife of Israel Harris who turns up nearby in Putnam County, Indiana. Not sure how she fits  into the family tree. There are others in Group 40 DNA that match very close to another 7th generation lineal descendant of Evan Harris (Harris surname Y-DNA match Haplogroup R1b1a2). In this DNA match there seems to be a couple of Israel Harrises around Blount County, TN even though the children and wife of Benoni Harris wind up in Hamblen County, Tennessee. The location of Robertson Creek Harrises and Morelands would be near the present day county lines of Grainger, Hawkins, and Hamblen County, Tennessee. It still perplexes me as to a more specific location for the Harrises in Knox County, Kentucky for one reason. In the day and times of Evan Harris and for some time thereafter, a dead person would be buried quite soon after his/her death and quite nearby. In many instances on the property where they lived or the nearest church, or nearest town cemetery. Who was buried nearby might denote a relationship or tombstone inscription with dates or other relevant information. Usually a persons will would be probated in the county where they died, but ambiguity sets in when county lines are modified and which county keeps the record after the split ? Since Benoni is only four years older than Evan, I would speculate that they are brothers and would really be fascinated to see one of his descendants DNA report. (preferably a 7th generation lineal descendant with the surname Harris)  Benoni and Evan were both farmers and up until the invention of the automobile they continued in this pattern of occupations for the most part. They and their descendants were mostly landowners as opposed to sharecroppers and I suppose I'll find a better location for them in Kentucky in the plat books and land grants for that area. There seems to be a pattern that evolves of honoring one's ascendants by naming children after their forefathers. Recurring names most prominent are Evan, John, Benjamin, Thomas & James. It was a generation or two after Evan Harris before my ancestors could write their own names with more than an "X" mark. No slave owners in my line of descent. They were all Baptists with the notation that Rebecca was or came from a family of Quakers. Just hard working honest farmers with a lot of children at every generation until the automobile came along. Since Randall mentioned Sullivan County, Indiana in approximately the time period I couldn't help but take notice and introduce myself. I'm sure there are other persons who moved with Evan and his entourage to Indiana, perhaps some sooner and some later; and some at the same time. I am quite committed to finding out who Evan's parents and ancestors are. I have a number of my relatives diligently working on this for many years. One of them is in her 90's I suppose and she has been in search of this information her entire life. Thus, it seems, time is of the essence for me to accomplish my goals. Any input would be greatly appreciated, Paul David Harris pony03e@yahoo.com   (copy and paste into email recipient address works better to avoid a   Mailer-Daemon) ________________________________ From: "randall.l.harris@sbcglobal.net" <randall.l.harris@sbcglobal.net> To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:43 PM Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Tyre Harris Tyre (Tyree or Tyra) Harris TimeLine There are at least two Tyre Harris’s in Kentucky during this time frame. One in Nelson Co., KY and the other in Madison and Garrard Counties, KY.  I am try to follow the Tyre Harris in Nelson County because I find him and his wife Susanna in Sullivan County, Indiana in 1820s. The reason I am following Tyre Harris is that I am speculating that he is related to Benjamin Harris, my direct line (1776-1848, DNA Group 2).  If anyone can shed light on this Tyre Harris please feel free to shine forth. Marriage of Tyre Harris to Susanna (Suzannah) Case Record title:Kentucky Marriages, 1785-1979 Groom's' name:Tyre Harris Bride's' name:Susanna Case Marriage date:05 Jul 1802 (or 1805) Marriage place:Bardstown, Nelson, Kentucky Indexing project (batch) number:M01678-4 System origin:Kentucky-EASy Source film number:1929414 Certificate of the Register of the General Land Office at Jeffersonville on 13 September 1818.  Richard Wall (assignee of Tyre Harris) NE¼ of Section 10 in Township 2N of range 2E. [NE Claysville, Vernon Township of Washington County, Indiana] United States General Land Office certificate No. 79 given 18 April 1821 to Tyre Harris of Washington County, Indiana 80 acres in Sullivan County, Indiana The East half of the NE quarter of Section 33, Township 9N Range 9W. United States General Land Office certificate No. 80 given 28 August 1821 to Tyre Harris of Washington County, Indiana 29.98 acres in Sullivan County, Indiana.  The East half of the NE quarter of Section 4 in Township 8N North Range 9W. >From the records of the Little Flock Church by Rachael K. Harris as published in the Sullivan County Historical Society, Inc. Volume 35, No. 3, March 2011, pages 37-38. “The land in which the church cemetery was founded was deeded by Tyre Harris one of the first members and was purchased in 1826.  The old, yellow with age deed which was made at the county capitol, then at Merom is in the possession of the present clerk, Miss Ethel Thompson, Also all of the church records, a great number of which especially the early ones, being written in a clear legible hand with goose-quill pen.  The language is clear and to the point the spelling a little different in some instances.  Tyre Harris and Wm B. Eldridge (paternal grandfathers of Jennie Eldridge DeVol) did the preaching from 1821 to 1824.  The founders of the church were as follows: Tyre Harris, Susannah, John Hadges, Polly Morgan, Mary Hill, Elizabeth Anderson, Robert Anderson, Betsy Morgan, Sarah Eldridge, Patience Cummins.” Little Flock Baptist Church 1821 The church originally met in a log building in 1826, a frame building 1846, and a third structure in 1871. The following was copied on December 27, 2011 at the Sullivan County Library The following is a summary of papers on Little Flock Baptist Church. 1 ½ acres of land bought for $50 from Tyre Harris & Susanna his wife on 29 July 1826.  It was part of the NE quarter, Section 4 in Township number 8 North of Range number nine West in land bounded as follows to wit. Beginning at a stake standing on the East line of D_____ North East Corner of said quarter running from thence South on to line fif West sixteen rods to a stake thence North fifteen rods to a stake thence beginning containing one acre and a half of land … The Little Flock Church was organized in June, 1821.  The charter members were Tyre Harris, Susanah Harris, John Hodges, Polly Morgan, Mary Hill, Robert Anderson, Elizaeth Anderson, Sarah Anderson, Betsy Anderson, Sarah Eldridge, and Patience Cummins.  Formerly belonged to Union Association. Little Flock member roll: Names                    When                      When dismissed              letter Tyre Harris Susannah Harris                                    Jan 10, 1929 John Hodges                                        Nov 13, 1824 Polly Morgan                                        Aug 7, 1824 Mary Hill                                              Aug 7, 1824 Elizabeth Anderson Is nee Elizabeth Pounds July 10, 1822 Robert Anderson, senr Sarah Anderson                                    Dec 8, 1833 Patience Cummins John Grant    Aug 11, 1821 bapt            June 7, 1823 Hanna Grant  Aug 11, 1821 letter            June 7, 1823 George Rusher        Nov 16, 1822 letter John Graham Nov 16, 1823 letter  Oct 11, 1823 Eliza Anderson        Dec 7, 1822 letter    June 20, 1840 Robert Anderson, jr Dec 7, 1822 bapt    March 26 1840 (father of my Cynthia Ann Anderson) Abraham Anderson  April 10, 1823 letter Benjamin Siner        Aug 9, 1823 letter    July 8, 1826 Polly Siner              Aug 9, 1823 letter Sullivan Co., Indiana 1830 Census shows Tyre Harris Males Under 5:        = 1 15 thru 19:    = 1 20 thru 29:    = 1 40 thru 49:    = 1 70 thru 79:    = 1 Females Under 5:    = 1 5 thru 9:    = 1 10 thru 14: = 1 15 thru 19: = 1 40 thru 49: = 1 Persons Under 20:  = 6 Persons 20 thru 49: = 3 Total: = 10 Sullivan County, Indiana 1840 shows Susan Harris Name: Susan Harris, County: Sullivan, State: Indiana Males 10 thru 14:    = 1 Females Under 5:    = 1 10 thru 14: = 1 15 thru 19: = 1 20 thru 29: = 1 50 thru 59: = 1 Total = 6 End of information concerning Tyre & Susanna Harris.  The Sullivan Co. Courthouse burned in 1850 and so there are no will and probate records prior to 1850.  Sullivan has good cemetery records and I have not found either Tyre or Susanna listed as buried in Sullivan County. Thanks for any help you can provide. Randall Harris ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message