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    1. Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Searching for Harrises in North Carolina
    2. EVELYN WALLACE
    3. Isle of Wight Co. was formed 1634 as one of the original counties (shires)under the name Warrrosquoyoake, name changed to Isle of Wight un 1637; latere additions from Upper Norfolk and Nansemond.  {on lower side of James River) (Source:  George K. Schweitzer, Virginia Genealogical Research [Knoxville, TN: 1988] This book MAY have been digitized: J. H. Boddie Seventeenth Century Isle of Wight Start with familysearch.org as many records held by the Family History Library are being digitized every day. If you draw a blank by doing an author search, try google.books.  I have NOT checked every database within Ancestry.com but if you subscribe, try searching there also. If you looking for land patents in Virginia use the Library of Virginia website (google for it,) go down the index to Land Patents--the one which includes words Northern Neck land grants.)  The oldest patents are at the very end. E. W. WALLACE ________________________________ From: Anne Harris <amh504@yahoo.com> To: EVELYN WALLACE <hdanw@verizon.net>; "harris-hunters@rootsweb.com" <harris-hunters@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Searching for Harrises in North Carolina Where was Isle of Wright?   Have a good day, Anne >________________________________ > From: EVELYN WALLACE <hdanw@verizon.net> >To: Harris Hunters <Harris-Hunters@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 11:24 PM >Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Searching for Harrises in North Carolina > >NO DOUBT many of you searching for ancestors in North Carolina know about this FREE resource. > >I am suggesting you use google to find digitizition of > >North Carolina Colonial and State papers > >The indexes are a little clunky, but there is an index.  I don't recall at this time whether each of the 20 volumes (or more) has its own index.  I seem to remember that much of the material are transcribed letters, official documents (and therefore dull). > >However, when I used hard copies of the actual volumes which I tripped on while browsing the shelves at my local LDS Family History, I found lists of land owners, etc.  > > >Mrs.Helen Leary (editor, lecturer of NC) made a statement in a long-ago NGS conference in Richmond, VA which will be helpful to researchers of that colony or state:  > > >Most North Carolians came from Virginia as the barrier islands on the Atlantic coast > >prevent much use of ports (if any)until one gets to Wilmington.  (Which was full of Scotsmen who had recently been defeated at the Battle of Culloden in Scotland and swore at their defeat never to fight England again.  (use wikipedia to learn more about the Battle of Culloden.) > > >For using info given by Mrs. Leary-- one of my colonial ancestors lived in these Virginia counties: > >Surry and Isle of Wight (?) Cos > >Another who came to Granville Co. ca 1750 was from Goochland Co., previously part of Henrico Co.  VA > >And then when I was researching Caswell Co. NC (formed 1777 from Orange Co. NC) I discovered there were relatives in Pittsyvania Co. VA) > >I hope you can use the NC colonial & state papers satisfactorly. > >Evelyn W. Wallace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >v > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

    10/09/2012 09:19:59
    1. Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Searching for Harrises in North Carolina
    2. Dr. Harris
    3. It's Isle of Wight and it's south of the James River. Beginning with the easternmost part of Virginia just south of the James and moving westward are: Norfolk, Portsmouth, and Suffolk, then the counties of Isle of Wight, Surry, Prince George, Chesterfield, Powhatan, Cumberland, Buckingham, and Appomattox, and then you're at Lynchburg. Many Harris' were north of the James River. Beginning in Jamestown which is in James City County and moving westward, the counties are Charles City, Henrico, Goochland, Fluvanna, and Albemarle at Charlottesville. Hanover and Louisa are north of these but south of the North Anna River and home to many Harris families as well. As Evelyn always says, follow the waterways! -Charlie Harris Harris DNA Group 6 -----Original Message----- From: harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Harris Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 11:33 PM To: EVELYN WALLACE; harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Searching for Harrises in North Carolina Where was Isle of Wright?   Have a good day, Anne >________________________________ > From: EVELYN WALLACE <hdanw@verizon.net> >To: Harris Hunters <Harris-Hunters@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 11:24 PM >Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Searching for Harrises in North Carolina > >NO DOUBT many of you searching for ancestors in North Carolina know about this FREE resource. > >I am suggesting you use google to find digitizition of > >North Carolina Colonial and State papers > >The indexes are a little clunky, but there is an index.  I don't recall at this time whether each of the 20 volumes (or more) has its own index.  I seem to remember that much of the material are transcribed letters, official documents (and therefore dull). > >However, when I used hard copies of the actual volumes which I tripped on while browsing the shelves at my local LDS Family History, I found lists of land owners, etc.  > > >Mrs.Helen Leary (editor, lecturer of NC) made a statement in a long-ago NGS conference in Richmond, VA which will be helpful to researchers of that colony or state:  > > >Most North Carolians came from Virginia as the barrier islands on the Atlantic coast > >prevent much use of ports (if any)until one gets to Wilmington.  (Which was full of Scotsmen who had recently been defeated at the Battle of Culloden in Scotland and swore at their defeat never to fight England again.  (use wikipedia to learn more about the Battle of Culloden.) > > >For using info given by Mrs. Leary-- one of my colonial ancestors lived in these Virginia counties: > >Surry and Isle of Wight (?) Cos > >Another who came to Granville Co. ca 1750 was from Goochland Co., previously part of Henrico Co.  VA > >And then when I was researching Caswell Co. NC (formed 1777 from Orange Co. NC) I discovered there were relatives in Pittsyvania Co. VA) > >I hope you can use the NC colonial & state papers satisfactorly. > >Evelyn W. Wallace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >v > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/09/2012 06:33:13
    1. Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Searching for Harrises in North Carolina
    2. Isle of Wight is in VA across the James River from Newport News. When searching through some of the records in that area my wife ran across the name "Oyl of White". She finally figured out it was supposed to be Isle of Wight. Randy -------Original Message------- From: Anne Harris Date: 10/8/2012 11:34:21 PM To: EVELYN WALLACE; harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Searching for Harrises in North Carolina Where was Isle of Wright? Have a good day, Anne >________________________________ > From: EVELYN WALLACE <hdanw@verizon.net> >To: Harris Hunters <Harris-Hunters@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 11:24 PM >Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Searching for Harrises in North Carolina > >NO DOUBT many of you searching for ancestors in North Carolina know about this FREE resource. > >I am suggesting you use google to find digitizition of > >North Carolina Colonial and State papers > >The indexes are a little clunky, but there is an index. I don't recall at this time whether each of the 20 volumes (or more) has its own index. I seem to remember that much of the material are transcribed letters, official documents (and therefore dull). > >However, when I used hard copies of the actual volumes which I tripped on while browsing the shelves at my local LDS Family History, I found lists of land owners, etc. > > >Mrs.Helen Leary (editor, lecturer of NC) made a statement in a long-ago NGS conference in Richmond, VA which will be helpful to researchers of that colony or state: > > >Most North Carolians came from Virginia as the barrier islands on the Atlantic coast > >prevent much use of ports (if any)until one gets to Wilmington. (Which was full of Scotsmen who had recently been defeated at the Battle of Culloden in Scotland and swore at their defeat never to fight England again. (use wikipedia to learn more about the Battle of Culloden.) > > >For using info given by Mrs. Leary-- one of my colonial ancestors lived in these Virginia counties: > >Surry and Isle of Wight (?) Cos > >Another who came to Granville Co. ca 1750 was from Goochland Co., previously part of Henrico Co. VA > >And then when I was researching Caswell Co. NC (formed 1777 from Orange Co. NC) I discovered there were relatives in Pittsyvania Co. VA) > >I hope you can use the NC colonial & state papers satisfactorly. > >Evelyn W. Wallace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >v > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/08/2012 05:43:55
    1. [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Benjamin Harrises Pt. 39
    2. Pam Stone
    3. Hi, all, More documentation from the line of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris through their son, Obediah [1741-1830.] I realize this line is very difficult to follow, when the documentation is spread out over such a long period of time, but, please, everyone, just try to collect all of the postings, put them in one file, and then study them. There are SO many Harris descendants coming from this line. Surely this work can help someone? I sure hope so. It is a lot of work. Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com ================================ Extracted from: National Archives Microfilm Roll # M33_85 1820 Federal Census, Guilford County, NC Key: Free White Males: Under 10, Of Ten and Under 16, Of 16 to 17, Of 18 and Under 26, Of 26 and Under 45, Of 45 and Upwards Free White Females: Under 10, Of Ten and Under 16, Of 16 and Under 26, Of 26 and Under 45, Of 45 and Upwards Number of Foragers Number of Farmers Number of Merchants Number of Mechanics - Printed pp. 71: . [L22] Obediah Chipman 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 1 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [1 male 0-9, 1 male 18-25; 1 female 0-9, 1 female 16-25] . [L26] John Chipman 0 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 0 - 1; 0 - 1 - 2 - 0 - 1; 0; 2; 0; 0 [1 male 10-15, 1 male 16-17, 1 male 18-25, 1 male 45+; 1 female 10-15, 2 females 16-25, 1 female 45+] [John M., unknown male 16-17, unknown male 18-25, John aged 60; 3 unknown females, Molly aged 54] [Mary "Molly", b. 1766; d. 1834; daughter of Obediah & Rebecca Johnson Harris] . - Printed p. 72: [NOTE: The ink from the back side of this page has "bled through," making the names of the Heads of Household difficult to decipher.] . [L19] JeSse Chipman 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 2 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [1 male 26-44; 2 females 0-9, 1 female 26-44] . ================================== Extracted from: Nat. Archives Microfilm Roll #M33_94 1820 Federal Census, Butler, Miami Co., Ohio Key: Free White Males: Under 10, Of Ten and Under 16, Of 16 to 17, Of 18 and Under 26, Of 26 and Under 45, Of 45 and Upwards Free White Females: Under 10, Of Ten and Under 16, Of 16 and Under 26, Of 26 and Under 45, Of 45 and Upwards Number of Foragers Number of Farmers Number of Merchants Number of Mechanics Printed p. 107: Notation in left margin: "Butler" . [L2] Abijah Jones 0- 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 1; 1 - 1 - 0 - 1 - 1; 0; 2; 0; 0 [1 male 10-15, 1 male 26-44, 1 male 45+; 1 female 0-9, 1 female 10-15, 1 female 26-44, 1 female 45+; 2 farmers] [James H., 13; Obediah, 26; Abijah, 52; Lydia Ann, 9; Mary, 15; Rebecca, 28; Rachel, 48] . [Abijah & Rachel Harris Jones & family; Rachel, daughter of Obediah & Rebecca Johnson Harris] =============================== Extracted from: National Archives Microfilm Roll # M33_94 1820 Federal Census, Miami County, Ohio Key: Free White Males: Under 10, Of Ten and Under 16, Of 16 to 17, Of 18 and Under 26, Of 26 and Under 45, Of 45 and Upwards Free White Females: Under 10, Of Ten and Under 16, Of 16 and Under 26, Of 26 and Under 45, Of 45 and Upwards Number of Foragers Number of Farmers Number of Merchants Number of Mechanics - Printed & Handwritten p. 76: "Monroe Township" . [L5] Robert Jenkins 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [Evans H. aged under 1 year, Robert; Jemima aged 22] [Jemima Jones Jenkins, daughter of Abijah & Rachel Harris Jones; granddaughter of Obediah & Rebecca Johnson Harris] [L6] David Jenkins 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 1; 0 - 1 - 2 - 0 - 1; 0; 2; 0; 0 [Parents of Robert, husband of Jemima Jones Jenkins] . =============================== END OF FILE ===============================

    10/08/2012 03:46:28
    1. Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Searching for Harrises in North Carolina
    2. Anne Harris
    3. Where was Isle of Wright?   Have a good day, Anne >________________________________ > From: EVELYN WALLACE <hdanw@verizon.net> >To: Harris Hunters <Harris-Hunters@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 11:24 PM >Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Searching for Harrises in North Carolina > >NO DOUBT many of you searching for ancestors in North Carolina know about this FREE resource. > >I am suggesting you use google to find digitizition of > >North Carolina Colonial and State papers > >The indexes are a little clunky, but there is an index.  I don't recall at this time whether each of the 20 volumes (or more) has its own index.  I seem to remember that much of the material are transcribed letters, official documents (and therefore dull). > >However, when I used hard copies of the actual volumes which I tripped on while browsing the shelves at my local LDS Family History, I found lists of land owners, etc.  > > >Mrs.Helen Leary (editor, lecturer of NC) made a statement in a long-ago NGS conference in Richmond, VA which will be helpful to researchers of that colony or state:  > > >Most North Carolians came from Virginia as the barrier islands on the Atlantic coast > >prevent much use of ports (if any)until one gets to Wilmington.  (Which was full of Scotsmen who had recently been defeated at the Battle of Culloden in Scotland and swore at their defeat never to fight England again.  (use wikipedia to learn more about the Battle of Culloden.) > > >For using info given by Mrs. Leary-- one of my colonial ancestors lived in these Virginia counties: > >Surry and Isle of Wight (?) Cos > >Another who came to Granville Co. ca 1750 was from Goochland Co., previously part of Henrico Co.  VA > >And then when I was researching Caswell Co. NC (formed 1777 from Orange Co. NC) I discovered there were relatives in Pittsyvania Co. VA) > >I hope you can use the NC colonial & state papers satisfactorly. > >Evelyn W. Wallace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >v > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

    10/08/2012 02:32:56
    1. [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Searching for Harrises in North Carolina
    2. EVELYN WALLACE
    3. NO DOUBT many of you searching for ancestors in North Carolina know about this FREE resource. I am suggesting you use google to find digitizition of North Carolina Colonial and State papers The indexes are a little clunky, but there is an index.  I don't recall at this time whether each of the 20 volumes (or more) has its own index.  I seem to remember that much of the material are transcribed letters, official documents (and therefore dull). However, when I used hard copies of the actual volumes which I tripped on while browsing the shelves at my local LDS Family History, I found lists of land owners, etc.  Mrs.Helen Leary (editor, lecturer of NC) made a statement in a long-ago NGS conference in Richmond, VA which will be helpful to researchers of that colony or state:  Most North Carolians came from Virginia as the barrier islands on the Atlantic coast prevent much use of ports (if any)until one gets to Wilmington.  (Which was full of Scotsmen who had recently been defeated at the Battle of Culloden in Scotland and swore at their defeat never to fight England again.  (use wikipedia to learn more about the Battle of Culloden.) For using info given by Mrs. Leary-- one of my colonial ancestors lived in these Virginia counties: Surry and Isle of Wight (?) Cos Another who came to Granville Co. ca 1750 was from Goochland Co., previously part of Henrico Co.  VA And then when I was researching Caswell Co. NC (formed 1777 from Orange Co. NC) I discovered there were relatives in Pittsyvania Co. VA) I hope you can use the NC colonial & state papers satisfactorly. Evelyn W. Wallace v

    10/08/2012 02:24:52
    1. [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Missing Harrises coming from Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris
    2. Pam Stone
    3. Hi, all, Just thought I had better mention the missing Harris descendants coming from a couple of the children of Obediah [1741-1830] & Rebecca Johnson Harris [1742-1801,] and ask for help. The descendants of the children of Obediah & Rebecca who left the Quakers are really difficult to track down. Obediah & Rebecca's daughter, Mary, b. 1766, married John Chipman in 1784; they had a number of older children by 1790 who are as yet unidentified. Also, Obediah & Rebecca Johnson Harris' son, David [1778-1880] married Sarah Sells, and I have not been able to clearly identify ANY of their possible children or grandchildren. If anyone can help, I would sure appreciate that. Thanks! Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com

    10/07/2012 03:54:58
    1. Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Gurley Harris, Arkansas
    2. Sam Harris
    3. Guess you probably saw this from Genforum. Azael Daniel Harris family members??? Posted by: Malin Harris (ID *****5860) Date: October 08, 2007 at 21:08:52    of 23614  I am looking for anyone who has any information on Azael Daniel Harris, William Wilson Harris and any other family members. My Grandfather was Gurley Harris whose father was James Thompson Harris. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Please feel free to e-mail me at Malinbear@excite.com I check my e-mail more than this site. Notify Administrator about this message? ________________________________ From: Ira Harris <barebear@insightbb.com> To: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 11:06 AM Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Gurley Harris, Arkansas Source: Find A Grave (Online) Gurley Harris b. September 23, 1888 d. February 20, 1969 bur: Little Rock National Cemetery         Little Rock, Pulaski County, Arkansas         Plot 14, 1505 I am looking for information concerning the above Harris. Any information is appreciated. Who were his family? Was he born in Alabama? Please respond through HH so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Group 6, Harris Y-DNA Family Study Line of Robert Harris of Ware Creek, New Kent County, Virginia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/07/2012 07:28:35
    1. [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Benjamin Harrises Pt. 38
    2. Pam Stone
    3. Hi, all, Missed the 1820 record of Richard & Sarah Mendenhall's eldest son, Benjamin, so am now including it in the continued 1820 records. More records of the descendants of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris through their son, Obediah [1741-1830.] Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com =============================== Extracted from: National Archives Microfilm Roll # M33_91 1820 Federal Census, Greene County, Ohio Key: Free White Males: Under 10, Of Ten and Under 16, Of 16 to 17, Of 18 and Under 26, Of 26 and Under 45, Of 45 and Upwards Free White Females: Under 10, Of Ten and Under 16, Of 16 and Under 26, Of 26 and Under 45, Of 45 and Upwards Number of Foragers Number of Farmers Number of Merchants Number of Mechanics - - Handwritten p. 143: "Sugar Creek Township" . [L4] 5 Benjamine Mendenhall 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 1 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 0; 0; 0; 2 [2 males 0-9, 1 male 26-44; 1 female 0-9, 1 female 16-25; 2 mechanics] [Ira aged 2, Zebulon aged 3, Benjamin aged 33; Lydia aged under 1 year, Mary aged about 24] [Benjamin, son of Richard & Sarah Harris Mendenhall] ================================== Extracted from: National Archives Microfilm Roll # M33_15 1820 Federal Census, Wayne County, Indiana Key: Free White Males: Under 10, Of Ten and Under 16, Of 16 to 17, Of 18 and Under 26, Of 26 and Under 45, Of 45 and Upwards Free White Females: Under 10, Of Ten and Under 16, Of 16 and Under 26, Of 26 and Under 45, Of 45 and Upwards Number of Foragers Number of Farmers Number of Merchants Number of Mechanics - Printed pp. 156-157: Wayne Co., Indiana [Green Twp.] "Part 1 Wayne Co." . [L15] Matthew Almand 3 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 1 - 0 - 1 - 1 - 0; 0; 2; 0; 0 [3 males 0-9, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 26-44; 1 female 0 - 9; 1 female 16-26; 1 female 26-44; 2 farmers] [3 unknown, Harris? aged 11, Matthew aged 35; Elizabeth? aged 9, 2 unknown] [Matthew Almond Jr., son of Matthew Almond /Allman with his first wife; Matthew Jr. was 35; the older children in his household may possibly have been his half-brother and half-sister?] - Printed pp. 158-159: . [L37] Jonas Harris 5 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 2 - 0 - 1 - 1 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [5 males 0-9, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 26-44; 2 females 0-9, 1 female 16-25, 1 female 26-44; 1 farmer] [family origins & later descendants unknown] [Jonas Harris was recorded as received on certificate from Middleton Monthly Meeting, Ohio at Whitewater MM in January of 1820, with his wife, Hannah, and their children William, Henry, Jesse, Jonas, Jacob, Mary, Charity, and Lydia (DORREL & HAMM, op. cit., p. 93.) This family later moved to Back Creek Monthly Meeting.] . --- Printed pp. 162-163: . [L37] Joseph Ratliff Jun 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 1 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [1 male 0-9, 1 male 26-44; 1 female 0-9, 1 female 16-25; 1 farmer] [End of page] --- Printed pp. 164-165: . [L30] Jacob Cook 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 1 - 1 - 1 - 0 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [2 males 0-9, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 26-44; 1 female 0-9, 1 female 10-15, 1 female 16-25; 1 farmer] [Ira & Thomas, Unknown male, Jacob aged 37; Mary, Rebecca, Elizabeth "Betty" (Judith Missing)] . --- Printed pp. 174-175: . [L30] George Shugarth 0 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 0 - 1; 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0; 0; 2; 0; 0 [2 males 10-15, 1 male 16-17, 1 male 18-25, 1 male 45+; 2 females 0-9; 2 farmers] [George Shugart] . --- Printed pp. 176-177: . [L22] Benjamin Harris 2 - 0 - 1 - 2 - 0 - 1; 1 - 2 - 1 - 0 - 1; 0; 3; 0; 0 [2 males 0-9, 1 male 16-17, 2 males 18-25, 1 male 45+; 1 female 0-9, 2 females 10-15, 1 female 16-25, 1 female 45+; 3 farmers] [2 Unknown males, 0-9; David, 17; Benjamin, 21; John, 23; Benjamin, 56; 1 Unknown female, 0-9; 2 Unknown females, 10-15; Rebecca, 19; Margaret, 53] [Benjamin Sr., son of Obediah & Rebecca Johnson Harris, with his wife, Margaret Ingle Harris & family] . --- Printed pp. 182-183: . [L11] Emry Harris 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1; 0; 1; 0; 0 [1 male 1-9, 1 male 18-25; 1 female 45+; 1 farmer] [family origins & descendants unknown] . --- Printed pp. 184-185: . [L6] James Harris 1 - 0 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 0; 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [1 male 0-9, 1 male 16-17, 1 male 18-25, 1 male 26-44; 1 female 16-25] [Branson Lewis, 2; 1 Unknown male, 16-17; 1 Unknown male, 18-25; James, 27; Naomi Lewis, 24; 1 farmer] [James, son of Benjamin & Margaret Ingle Harris] . Printed pp. 186-187: . [L20] John Shugart 2 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 1 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [2 males 0-9, 1 male 18-25; 1 female 0-9, 1 female 16-25] . --- Printed pp. 188-189: . [L27] Joseph Ratliff 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 3 - 1 - 0 - 1 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 . --- Printed pp. 210-211: . [L35] Emery HarriSs 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [1 male 10-15, 1 male 26-44; 1 female 26-44; 1 farmer] [family origins & descendants unknown] . --- Printed pp. 238-239: Richmond [Twp.] Wayne Co., Indiana . --- Printed pp. 246-247: . [L13] Wm Harvey 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 2 - 0 - 0 - 1? - 1; 0; 1; 0; 0 . ============================== END OF FILE ==============================

    10/06/2012 02:03:46
    1. [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Gurley Harris, Arkansas
    2. Ira Harris
    3. Source: Find A Grave (Online) Gurley Harris b. September 23, 1888 d. February 20, 1969 bur: Little Rock National Cemetery Little Rock, Pulaski County, Arkansas Plot 14, 1505 I am looking for information concerning the above Harris. Any information is appreciated. Who were his family? Was he born in Alabama? Please respond through HH so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Group 6, Harris Y-DNA Family Study Line of Robert Harris of Ware Creek, New Kent County, Virginia

    10/06/2012 05:06:44
    1. [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Benjamin Harrises Pt. 37
    2. Pam Stone
    3. Hi, everyone, Here is the next portion of the descendants of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris. Most of this information is census records from 1820. Looking through the numerous records, though, I did find a single document that proves that Matthew & Rebecca Harris Almond did move to Wayne Co., Indiana in 1812. Their son, Harris Almond, however, was not recorded with them at that time. (He may have been living with some other family member though. Later records prove that Harris Almond was not deceased at that time, but in fact married and had his own family.) However, I simply cannot locate Rebecca Harris Almond and her family in 1820, and have no idea what happened to her, her husband, or her daughters after the 1812 record. Anyway, here are some further records of the descendants of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris. So these are only a part of the 1820 census records of this Harris family. Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com ================================= Records extracted, annotated & compiled by: Pam Stone Ross pamstone@cfl.rr.com 362 North Brevard Avenue Cocoa Beach, FL 32931-2936 ================================= DORREL & HAMM, op. cit. p. 68: WHITEWATER MONTHLY MEETING, WAYNE CO., IN ALMOND 9-26-1812. Matthew received on certificate from Piney Grove Monthly Meeting, SC; Rebeckah & daughters Judith & Elizabeth received on certificate from Piney Grove Monthly Meeting, SC. [Missing from this record is Harris Almond, b. 1809 in South Carolina.] ================================= Extracted from: National Archives Microfilm Roll # M33_13 1820 Federal Census, Randolph County, Indiana Key: Free White Males: Under 10, Of Ten and Under 16, Of 16 to 17, Of 18 and Under 26, Of 26 and Under 45, Of 45 and Upwards Free White Females: Under 10, Of Ten and Under 16, Of 16 and Under 26, Of 26 and Under 45, Of 45 and Upwards Number of Foragers Number of Farmers Number of Merchants Number of Mechanics - [NOTE: Line numbers were not actually recorded, but have been inserted for clarity; and they are given by township, except in the case of an entire page being in a single township.] - Printed p. 324: . "Greensfork Township" [L1] Obadiah HarriSs 3 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 2; 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1; 0; 1; 0; 0 [3 males 0-9, 2 males 10-15, 2 males 45+; 2 females 0-9, 1 female 10-15, 1 female 45+; 1 farmer] [Twice-widowed Obediah Sr., and the family of Obediah Jr./II & his second wife, Mary Moorman Harris] [Jesse M., 3; James, 7; Obediah, 9; John, 11; Jonathan, 13; Obediah Jr./II, 45; Obediah Sr., 78; Mary, 1; Ruth, 5; Susannah, 15; Mary Moorman Harris, aged about 46] [L2] Thomas Overman 0 - 1 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1; 0; 1; 0; 0 [L3] Thomas Parker 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 3 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [L4] James Butler 4 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 2 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [L5] Jehu Jackson 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 2 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [L6] Valentine Gibson 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 3 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [L7] Jonah Heton 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 4 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [L8] William Hunt 0 - 1 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 1; 1 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [L9] Oliver Walker 0 - 1 - 1 - 3 - 1 - 1; 2 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 0 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [10] William Ennis 2 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1; 3 - 0 - 1 - 1 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [L11] James Adamson 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 1 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [This was the entire population of Green's Fork Township, Randolph Co., Indiana in 1820.] - [also pp. 324] Ward Township . [L5] Tense MaSsey 2 - 0 - 1 - 2 - 0 - 0; 1 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [Tennessee?] [Brother-in-law of Pleasant Harris, son of Benjamin & Margaret Ingle Harris] [L6] James MaSsey 0 - 0 - 1 - 2 - 0 - 1; 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1; 0; 1; 0; 0 [Father-in-law of Pleasamt Harris, son of Benjamin & Margaret Ingle Harris] . - Printed p. 325: Ward Township . [L19] Zachariah Hiatt 2 - 0 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 0; 2 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [end of Ward Township] - Wayne Township . [L12] Thomas HarriSs 1 - 0 - 0 - 2 - 0 - 0; 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [Thomas & David M., sons of Obediah Jr./II and Maris Mendenhall Harris; grandsons of Obediah & Rebecca Johnson Harris] [Thomas Harris married Mary Shugart, daughter of George & Mary Davis Shugart; their oldest child was John] [L13] John Moorman 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1; 0 - 1 - 0 - 1 - 1; 0; 1; 0; 0 . [L41] John Lewis 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 2 - 1 - 0 - 1 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [End of page] - pp. 364: [In spite of the big jump in page numbering, this page is sequential to pp. 325.] Wayne Township . [L22] Ephraim Overman 0 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 0 - 1; 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1; 0; 1; 0; 0 [L23] Silas Overman 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 . [L27] Harvey Harris 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 ; 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [family origins & descendants unknown] . [37] Lot Harris 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; [family origins & descendants unknown] . =============================== Extracted from: National Archives Microfilm Roll # M33_91 1820 Federal Census, Greene County, Ohio Key: Free White Males: Under 10, Of Ten and Under 16, Of 16 to 17, Of 18 and Under 26, Of 26 and Under 45, Of 45 and Upwards Free White Females: Under 10, Of Ten and Under 16, Of 16 and Under 26, Of 26 and Under 45, Of 45 and Upwards Number of Foragers Number of Farmers Number of Merchants Number of Mechanics - Handwritten p. 288 [Printed p. 148 marked out]: [Using an unusual format, household totals were listed in a column before the name of the Head of Household] - [L1] 9 Joseph Mendenhall 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 3 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 1; 0; 1; 0; 0 [Joseph, younger brother of Richard] [L2] 5 Obediah Mendenhall 3 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0; 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 [L3] 5 Richard Mendenhall 0 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1; 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1; 0; 3; 0; 0 [L4] 2 Ira Mendenhall 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0; 0; 1; 0; 0 . =================================

    10/03/2012 02:46:25
    1. Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Family Finder is on sale
    2. Anne Harris
    3.     Hi Pat, Hi Pat, How much luck will I have as a female?  Can it determine which DNA Harris group I'm in?   Have a good day, Anne >________________________________ > From: "PatCLARE@aol.com" <PatCLARE@aol.com> >To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com >Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 10:55 AM >Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Family Finder is on sale > >Dear Group > > >Familytreedna has a sale on upgrades and the Family Finder (can be taken by >male or female) > > >Here is information on a special weekend sale for DNA testing (mtDNA and  >Family Finder only). These are very good prices if you or someone you know is >interested in taking one of these tests. The sale ends at midnight on >Sunday  night.  (Sept 30 11:59 P.M.) > >You can log in to your own account at FTDNA or*** new customers ****can  >sign up through the Harris Project page: > > >_http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?code=Q41837&Group=Harris_ >(http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?code=Q41837&Group=Harris) > > > > >I personally do not recommend the mtdna testing, as it is so difficult to  >find matches, but the Family Finder may reveal cousin lines that could be  >helpful in putting together family relationships if you have the time to >devote  to deep reseach .  Pat Harris > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

    09/29/2012 11:11:39
    1. [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Family Finder is on sale
    2. Dear Group Familytreedna has a sale on upgrades and the Family Finder (can be taken by male or female) Here is information on a special weekend sale for DNA testing (mtDNA and Family Finder only). These are very good prices if you or someone you know is interested in taking one of these tests. The sale ends at midnight on Sunday night. (Sept 30 11:59 P.M.) You can log in to your own account at FTDNA or*** new customers ****can sign up through the Harris Project page: _http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?code=Q41837&Group=Harris_ (http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?code=Q41837&Group=Harris) I personally do not recommend the mtdna testing, as it is so difficult to find matches, but the Family Finder may reveal cousin lines that could be helpful in putting together family relationships if you have the time to devote to deep reseach . Pat Harris

    09/29/2012 04:55:30
    1. [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Benjamin Harrises Pt. 36
    2. Pam Stone
    3. Hi, Harrises, Here's another chunk of the history of the descendants of Benjamin & Sarah Dumas Harris. Next to come are the first clear census records of some of the various descendants who earlier went to what became Ohio & Indiana, for which I could not find records in 1810 (in the "Territory Northwest of the Ohio.") J Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com ===================== HINSHAW, Vol. I (NC), op. cit. p. 840: DEEP RIVER MONTHLY MEETING, GUILFORD COUNTY, NC STUART 1813, 6, 7. John received on request. 1813, 7, 5. Elizabeth Stuart & daughters Martha & Elizabeth Chipman, Sarah & Luiza Stuart received on request. [Elizabeth Chipman, formerly Sanders, was disowned for marrying contrary to discipline in 1793.] - p. 793: (Minutes p. 234) John Stuart b. 3-25-1776; d. 1-4-1844. Elizabeth Stuart b. 6-27-1767; d. 8-26-1853. Children: Sarah b. 10-28-1806. Louisa b. 6-1-1809. ===================== DORREL & HAMM, op. cit. p. 93: WHITEWATER MONTHLY MEETING, WAYNE CO., IN HARRIS 7-29-1815. Benjamin & family granted certificate to New Garden Monthly Meeting; Margaret & daughters granted certificate to New Garden Monthly Meeting. [Benjamin (son of Obediah & Rebecca) & Margaret Ingle Harris; New Garden Monthly Meeting was in Richmond, Wayne Co., Indiana] 10-28-1815. John disowned for getting in a pasaion [sic], using profane language, & offering to fight. [John, son of Benjamin & Margaret Ingle Harris] ===================== HINSHAW, Vol. V (Ohio), op. cit. p. 189: CAESAR'S CREEK MONTHLY MEETING, CLINTON COUNTY, OHIO MENDENHALL 1815, 8, 25. Benjamin condemned his disorderly marriage. 1817, 8, 29. Mary & son Zebulon received by request. [Benjamin, son of Richard & Sarah Harris Mendenhall; grandson of Obediah & Rebecca Johnson Harris] - p. 188: CAESAR'S CREEK MONTHLY MEETING, CLINTON COUNTY, OHIO MENDENHALL (date not rec.) Benjamin, b. 1786, 9, 16; married Mary -------, b. 1793, 3, 1. Children: Zebulon b. 1816, 9, 3 Ira b. 1817, 12, 25 Lydia b. 1819, 12, 8 Rebeckah b. 1822, 5, 19 Sarah b. 1824, 10, 29 - p. 786: MILL CREEK MONTHLY MEETING MIAMI CO., OHIO JENKINS 1818, 4, 2. Robert, son of David & Martha, of Miami Co., Ohio, married in Randolph Meeting House Jemima Jones, daughter of Abijah & Rachel, of Montgomery Co., Ohio. Children: Evan b. 1819, 2, 19 [Evans H.] Adila b. 1821, 1, 13 [Robert's parents were from Bush River Meeting in Newberry Co., South Carolina. David Jenkins was born in 1760, the son of David & Elizabeth Jenkins. Martha Evans was born in 1766, the daughter of Robert & & Rebecca Evans. David Jenkins & Martha Evans married at Bush River Meeting in 1789. (Martha's older sister, Ann Evans, married Enoch Pearson there in 1784; their family also ties in down the line.) Robert Jenkins was married 3 times. He married, 1st, Jemima, above; he married, 2nd, 3/24/1824, Verlinda Jay; he married, 3rd, 2/20/1834, Ann Pearson. With Verlinda, he had children: Rachel, b. 1825, Martha, b. 1827, and Bathsheba, b. 1828. With Ann, he had children: Verlinda, b. 1835, David Lindley, b. 1836, Abijah Milton, b. 1838, Jemima, b. 1840, and Samuel Addison, b. 1842.] - p. 189: CAESAR'S CREEK MONTHLY MEETING, CLINTON COUNTY, OHIO MENDENHALL 1819, 11, 4. Ira, son of Richard & Sarah, of Green Co., Ohio, married in Caesar's Creek Meeting House Sarah Ballard, daughter of Joseph & Elizabeth, of Clinton Co., Ohio. [Ira, son of Richard & Sarah Harris Mendenhall; grandson of Obediah & Rebecca Johnson Harris] ============================== END OF FILE ==============================

    09/26/2012 03:51:41
    1. Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Some Early Harris & Overton Males in Hanover Co..VA
    2. Randy Montgomery
    3. Evelyn, I would still like to exchange information and try to figure out how we are related, your response back to me really didn't answer that question. I have heard of a way with the family finder test that if you can identify the relationship you can catalog chromozone blocks per family line and for sure you can id others that are also from the same line. I show related to you, I do not know if it is the Harris line or not. Dupuy was also one of the hits according to Pat. This is why I did not email Harris hunters directly. I figured this was more of a private converstation, not that it matters really. You are wonderful strong in Genealogy and all you said is well taken. But I am trying to figure out how I can use the DNA testing, specifically Family finder to sure up that process. I work and do not have a lot of time to write or even do Genealogy even though I have the bug. I will eventually answer some the Harris hints you all have sent. Are you interested in trying to figure out which line we are related from on Family finder? Randy Montgomery > Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:06:48 -0700 > From: hdanw@verizon.net > To: lokearns@marktwain.net; PatCLARE@aol.com; Harris-Hunters@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Some Early Harris & Overton Males in Hanover Co..VA > > St.Louis Co. [MO], [not city of St Louis] has the book collection of the National Genealogical > Society. > > > Whether Mrs. Davis's one book on Hanover Co.VA [one surviving book of the colonial era] and her several books on Louisa Co. VA [formed from Hanover Co.] and Fredericksville Parish are in the NGS collection, I cannot say. > > I suggest you use your internet search skills to check out Mrs Rosalie Edith Davis's books. She has maps and her abstracts are good--better than some authors whom I am reading now of other places and other times! > > Thanks, Leon. Share other info with us, as you see fit. There is ALWAYS something we need to know about our ancestors--and sources useful in that hunt! > > > E.W.Wallace > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Leon O Kearns <lokearns@marktwain.net> > To: EVELYN WALLACE <hdanw@verizon.net>; Harris Hunters <Harris-Hunters@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 1:47 PM > Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Some Early Harris & Overton Males in Hanover Co..VA > > Evelyn, > > Check out this site http://www.slcl.org/books-emedia-and-more. This is the St Louis County library and they have 12 of Ms Davis's books concerning Virginia. > St. Louis County Library Headquarters > Tier 5 (top floor) > 1640 S. Lindbergh Blvd. > St. Louis, MO 63131 > 314-994-3300, ext. 2070 > There may be an interlibrary loan policy for out of state loans. One would have to call and check and check with their library to see if the two can make this loan. > > > Leon O Kearns > Sec Shelby County Missouri Historical Society > Charter Member Daviess Co Mo Genealogy Society > > -----Original Message----- From: EVELYN WALLACE > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:01 PM > To: Harris Hunters > Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Some Early Harris & Overton Males in Hanover Co..VA > > At a dinner lecture I attended some decades ago, one of the noted archivists of the Library of Virginia gave a talk, and some of the statements he made were eye-openers. > > One which stands out in my mind: As the Confederates evacuated Richmond at the end of the Civil War, they torched the wharves on the James River. As fires are wont to do, this one got out of control. The Hanover Co. records, being of great historic interest, had been ordered to the Archives in Richmond, and they mostly burned. Alas! How many of our colonials may have owned land in that BIG county. > > > A few of the records remain, and some years ago, a devoted genealogist, Rosalie Edith Davis abstracted and compiled this: Hanover County, Virginia Court Records 1733-1735: Deeds, Wills and Inventories. > > Until about two years ago or so, Mrs. Davis resided outside St. Louis MO in a place called Manchester, MO. She advertised in the Genealogical Helper and I ordered a great many of her books--paperbacks and reasonably priced. Some months ago, I discovered Mrs. Davis was not answering her e-mails. Some kind person gave me another URL, but, dummy that I am [poor health also] I neglected to note the URL. Unfortunately, the Family History Library in Salt Lake City does not have these booklets which are well abstracted. Perhaps the Allen County [Indiana] Public Library in Fort Wayne has them, and perhaps a library or two in Missouri may have them. They are rather critical for anyone who had colonials in Hanover Co., part of which became Louisa Co., and which county records Mrs. Davis had also abstracted and published. > > I highly recommend anyone doing research in Virginia learn how to use the Virginia Land Patents [which title includes the words Northern Neck Land Grants] on the Library of Virginia website. If your local or nearby library has old volumes published some decades ago by the Library of Virginia and entitled Cavaliers and Pioneers, take a look at the indexes at the back of these books, and note how many topics there are: not only surnames, but watercourses [creeks, branches, fords, etc] and counties, etc. and see what names ring a bell with you. The counties divided all the time. Part of Henrico Co.. one of the original counties, became Goochland. Hanover Co. later divided into Louisa Co., where the records are largely intact and which Mrs Davis also abstracted--and published. > > If you can find land patents for *suspect* Harrises, do this: Note not only the county, but the date, the neighbors, the watercourse [almost every patent mentions a watercourse; crops, people, animals need water, and the watercourses provided transportation, especially when the barrels of tobacco were rolled down to the transporting boat.] > > In separate e-mails, I will share with you some of the records pertaining to Harrises. Due to later records of some of the [perhaps linked]families I collect those persons also. After all, the women in these families are the ones who reproduced younger Harrises, and we need to know who those neighbors were. They probably became in-laws. > > E.W.Wallace > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/25/2012 04:25:14
    1. Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Some Early Harris & Overton Males in Hanover Co..VA
    2. EVELYN WALLACE
    3. St.Louis Co. [MO], [not city of St Louis] has the book collection of the National Genealogical Society.  Whether Mrs. Davis's one book on Hanover Co.VA [one surviving book of the colonial era] and her several books on Louisa Co. VA [formed from Hanover Co.] and Fredericksville Parish are in the NGS collection, I cannot say. I suggest you use your internet search skills to check out Mrs Rosalie Edith Davis's books.  She has maps and her abstracts are good--better than some authors whom I am reading now of other places and other times! Thanks, Leon.  Share other info with us, as you see fit.  There is ALWAYS something we need to know about our ancestors--and sources useful in that hunt! E.W.Wallace ________________________________ From: Leon O Kearns <lokearns@marktwain.net> To: EVELYN WALLACE <hdanw@verizon.net>; Harris Hunters <Harris-Hunters@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Some Early Harris & Overton Males in Hanover Co..VA Evelyn, Check out this site http://www.slcl.org/books-emedia-and-more. This is the St Louis County library and they have 12 of Ms Davis's books concerning Virginia. St. Louis County Library Headquarters Tier 5 (top floor) 1640 S. Lindbergh Blvd. St. Louis, MO 63131 314-994-3300, ext. 2070 There may be an interlibrary loan policy for out of state loans. One would have to call and check and check with their library to see if the two can make this loan. Leon O Kearns Sec Shelby County Missouri Historical Society Charter Member Daviess Co Mo Genealogy Society -----Original Message----- From: EVELYN WALLACE Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:01 PM To: Harris Hunters Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Some Early Harris & Overton Males in Hanover Co..VA At a dinner lecture I attended some decades ago, one of the noted archivists of the Library of Virginia gave a talk, and some of the statements he made were eye-openers. One which stands out in my mind:  As the Confederates evacuated Richmond at the end of the Civil War, they torched the wharves on the James River.  As fires are wont to do, this one got out of control.  The Hanover Co. records, being of great historic interest, had been ordered to the Archives in Richmond, and they mostly burned.  Alas!  How many of our colonials may have owned land in that BIG county. A few of the records remain, and some years ago, a devoted genealogist, Rosalie Edith Davis abstracted and compiled this:  Hanover County, Virginia Court Records 1733-1735:  Deeds, Wills and Inventories. Until about two years ago or so, Mrs. Davis resided outside St. Louis MO in a place called Manchester, MO.  She advertised in the Genealogical Helper and I ordered a great many of her books--paperbacks and reasonably priced. Some months ago, I discovered Mrs. Davis was not answering her e-mails. Some kind person gave me another URL, but, dummy that I am [poor health also] I neglected to note the URL.  Unfortunately, the Family History Library in Salt Lake City does not have these booklets which are well abstracted.  Perhaps the Allen County [Indiana] Public Library in Fort Wayne has them, and perhaps a library or two in Missouri may have them.  They are rather critical for anyone who had colonials in Hanover Co., part of which became Louisa Co., and which county records Mrs. Davis had also abstracted and published. I highly recommend anyone doing research in Virginia learn how to use the Virginia Land Patents [which title includes the words Northern Neck Land Grants] on the Library of Virginia website.  If your local or nearby library has old volumes published some decades ago by the Library of Virginia and entitled Cavaliers and Pioneers, take a look at the indexes at the back of these books, and note how many topics there are:  not only surnames, but watercourses [creeks, branches, fords, etc] and counties, etc. and see what names ring a bell with you.  The counties divided all the time.  Part of Henrico Co.. one of the original counties, became Goochland.  Hanover Co. later divided into Louisa Co., where the records are largely intact and which Mrs Davis also abstracted--and published. If you can find land patents for *suspect* Harrises, do this:  Note not only the county, but the date, the neighbors, the watercourse [almost every patent mentions a watercourse; crops, people, animals need water, and the watercourses provided transportation, especially when the barrels of tobacco were rolled down to the transporting boat.] In separate e-mails, I will share with you some of the records pertaining to Harrises.  Due to later records of some of the [perhaps linked]families I collect those persons also.  After all, the women in these families are the ones who reproduced younger Harrises, and we need to know who those neighbors were.  They probably became in-laws. E.W.Wallace ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/23/2012 11:06:48
    1. Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Confusing records...
    2. Pam Stone
    3. Peggy, Yes, the family of Matthew & Rebecca Harris Almond/Allman were Quakers (at least in the first decade of the 1800's. [However, as I stated, I cannot locate Matthew Sr. & Rebecca after the 1809 Marlboro Co., SC, record, and suspect some disaster may have struck the family?]) I have absolutely no information on the family of Matthew Almond Sr. prior to his marrying into the family of Quaker Harrises I am trying to sort through, except that he appears probably not to have been a birthright Quaker, given that Rebecca was briefly disowned for marrying him. Pam -----Original Message----- From: harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pegleghill@aol.com Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 11:17 AM To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Confusing records... Pam just a side note here, What do you have on the Allman or Almond family. Were they also Quaker? I have Almond in VA. Is there any relationship with Thomas Almond, Jr/Mary Sansum? Peggy in CA In a message dated 9/22/2012 7:57:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pamstone@cfl.rr.com writes: Hi, all, I have to tell everyone that there are only 1810 surviving census records for about 8 or 10 townships in the "Territory Northwest of the Ohio", where some of the children of Obediah & Rebecca Johnson Harris' children were: Richard & Sarah Harris Mendenhall, Benjamin & Margaret Ingle Harris, Abijah & Rachel Harris Jones, and Jacob & Judith Harris Cook. This is, of course, a HUGE gap in the records for the children of Obediah & Rebecca Johnson Harris. (However, luckily, these people were Quakers, so SOME surviving records do help to fill this gap.) As I am sure you all noticed, the records for Benjamin, the son of Obediah & Rebecca Johnson Harris, and his wife Margaret Ingle Harris & their children, are confusing (to say the least.) They were granted a certificate to Miami Monthly Meeting in Wayne Co., Indiana, in 1807, and were received there in December of 1809 on certificate from Deep River Monthly Meeting, NC. However, I have found at least one record stating that Benjamin was in what later became Wayne Co., Indiana by 1807, and it suggests that he may have bought land there at that time? And Benjamin Harris was recorded at Whitewater Monthly Meeting, Wayne Co., Indiana, in 1809, as a founding member of that meeting, as you all know. Then Benjamin & family were recorded as received at Whitewater Monthly Meeting in Wayne Co., Indiana on 2-24-1810, on a certificate from Deep River Monthly Meeting in Guilford Co., North Carolina. Based on these different records, it seems to me that perhaps Benjamin Harris, the son of Obediah & Rebecca Johnson Harris, ventured into this unsettled part of our country in 1807 and explored it, trying to decide if it was a country where his family could possibly thrive. POSSIBLY he entered land there at that time? I think he then returned to Guilford Co., NC, obtained a certificate to Miami MM, as there were not yet meetings established in Indiana at that time, and had his family received there in Miami Meeting, Ohio. But later, I think that Benjamin returned to Miami Co., Ohio to obtain their original certificate from Deep River Monthly Meeting to present his family to Whitewater Monthly Meeting, Wayne Co., Indiana. This would explain, perhaps, the confusing records for the family of Benjamin & Margaret Ingle Harris? Also, I have found confusing records regarding Rebecca Harris Allman/Almond. I found her recorded at Marlboro MM, SC, in 1809, as with her much older husband, Matthew Sr., and her stepchildren and children, but I don't find her OR her husband OR children after that (at all.) Perhaps Rebecca and her husband, Matthew, and her children, Judith, Harris & Rebecca, all died before 1820? These records are confusing, but can eventually be sorted out, I hope. Pam pamstone@clf.rr.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/22/2012 12:31:44
    1. [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Madison Co., KY Marriage 1796 - Williams & Searcy
    2. EVELYN WALLACE
    3. I am interested in the family history of this couple who are reported to have been married in Madison Co., KY on are about 20 Mar 1796 (bond). I have collected a goodly amount of information on Joseph's father, Henry Williams of early Caswell Co.,NC and on Joseph's paternal grandfather Daniel Williams, who died testate 1759 in Granville Co. NC.  (In fact Daniel and his son Henry are both my ancestors.) I will exchange info, including sources and I hope you have some info from Madison Co.  The widowed mother of this bride, Lucy Searcy, appears frequently in Madison Co. deeds as she gave land to her children as they came of age.  Refer to Madison Co. deed indexes as filmed Lucy Searcy [believed to be daughter of deceased Bartlett Searcy, orig of Granville Co. NC] and Joseph Williams.  Named for her mother Lucy, whose maiden name cannot be confirmed.] Joseph Williams is believed to be son of Henry Williams, who died testate in Caswell Co., NC 1786 (Record Book B-92)  As stated, Joseph's paternal grandfather was Daniel Williams, who lived for a time in Hanover Co. VA (a burned county)and later acquired much land in Southside Virginia.  Shortly before his death, about 1756 or so Daniel moved to Granville Co. NC. Source Information from Ancestry.com Dodd, Jordan. Kentucky Marriages, 1802-1850 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 1997. IMPORTANT  Lucy's widowed mother, Lucy Searcy, was reportedly a Williams, but I am unable to verify that statement.  The groom named above, Joseph Williams, is believed, based on research of abstracted records of Caswell Co., NC to be the sibling of Ursley Duke Williams, the widow Peoples, who married in Caswell Co. NC Richard *Ready-Money* Oldham, later settlers on Otter Creek in Madison Co. Ursley Duke, whose first husband was Reuben (?) Peoples, was a childless widow when she married R/M Oldham.  She bore him about five Oldham children but died after the birth of the 5th child.  Later, R/M Oldham married Patsy Reid, dau. of Alexander Reid.  She was mother of most of his children.  R/M Oldham received a Rev. War pension, and his widow Patsy (who later moved to Missouri)received a widow's pension. To Harris-Hunters:  Ursley Duke Williams (Peoples) Oldham was the mother of Nancy Oldham, whose first marriage was to Overton Harris, son of Christopher Harris.  About ten years after Overton Harris's death, Nancy Oldham remarried to Anderson Chenault, a widower.  She had drawn up a pre-nuptial agreement, as her first husband had a very restrictive will concerning property.  However, the pre-nup agreement was not recorded until about a year after the Chenault-Harris wedding. Bartlett Searcy's 1784 will is recorded in Granville Co., North Carolina, but I confess I have not read it.  Since he owned property in Madison Co., KY, there is probably a probate there. Your guidance is appreciated. Evelyn W. Wallace E.W.Wallace

    09/22/2012 06:30:24
    1. [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Quaker records - digitized
    2. EVELYN WALLACE
    3. As far as I know I don't have any Harrises who were  Quakers.  However, nearly any lecture which deals with Indiana residents mentions the records which have been abstracted by W. Hinshaw.  Just out of curiosity, I did an author search on www.familysearch.org and learned that the Family History Library has digitized about seven volumes of Hinshaw's records about Indiana Quakers.  Do an an author search for Hinshaw,W on this website https://familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlc/ I keep being amazed by the daily additions to FHL library holdings, and I bet you will be also.  E.W.Wallace

    09/22/2012 05:23:11
    1. Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Confusing records...
    2. Pam just a side note here, What do you have on the Allman or Almond family. Were they also Quaker? I have Almond in VA. Is there any relationship with Thomas Almond, Jr/Mary Sansum? Peggy in CA In a message dated 9/22/2012 7:57:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pamstone@cfl.rr.com writes: Hi, all, I have to tell everyone that there are only 1810 surviving census records for about 8 or 10 townships in the "Territory Northwest of the Ohio", where some of the children of Obediah & Rebecca Johnson Harris' children were: Richard & Sarah Harris Mendenhall, Benjamin & Margaret Ingle Harris, Abijah & Rachel Harris Jones, and Jacob & Judith Harris Cook. This is, of course, a HUGE gap in the records for the children of Obediah & Rebecca Johnson Harris. (However, luckily, these people were Quakers, so SOME surviving records do help to fill this gap.) As I am sure you all noticed, the records for Benjamin, the son of Obediah & Rebecca Johnson Harris, and his wife Margaret Ingle Harris & their children, are confusing (to say the least.) They were granted a certificate to Miami Monthly Meeting in Wayne Co., Indiana, in 1807, and were received there in December of 1809 on certificate from Deep River Monthly Meeting, NC. However, I have found at least one record stating that Benjamin was in what later became Wayne Co., Indiana by 1807, and it suggests that he may have bought land there at that time? And Benjamin Harris was recorded at Whitewater Monthly Meeting, Wayne Co., Indiana, in 1809, as a founding member of that meeting, as you all know. Then Benjamin & family were recorded as received at Whitewater Monthly Meeting in Wayne Co., Indiana on 2-24-1810, on a certificate from Deep River Monthly Meeting in Guilford Co., North Carolina. Based on these different records, it seems to me that perhaps Benjamin Harris, the son of Obediah & Rebecca Johnson Harris, ventured into this unsettled part of our country in 1807 and explored it, trying to decide if it was a country where his family could possibly thrive. POSSIBLY he entered land there at that time? I think he then returned to Guilford Co., NC, obtained a certificate to Miami MM, as there were not yet meetings established in Indiana at that time, and had his family received there in Miami Meeting, Ohio. But later, I think that Benjamin returned to Miami Co., Ohio to obtain their original certificate from Deep River Monthly Meeting to present his family to Whitewater Monthly Meeting, Wayne Co., Indiana. This would explain, perhaps, the confusing records for the family of Benjamin & Margaret Ingle Harris? Also, I have found confusing records regarding Rebecca Harris Allman/Almond. I found her recorded at Marlboro MM, SC, in 1809, as with her much older husband, Matthew Sr., and her stepchildren and children, but I don't find her OR her husband OR children after that (at all.) Perhaps Rebecca and her husband, Matthew, and her children, Judith, Harris & Rebecca, all died before 1820? These records are confusing, but can eventually be sorted out, I hope. Pam pamstone@clf.rr.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/22/2012 05:16:43