This response only took me three months to complete, but Parker Collins ties into my wife's HARRIS line from GA. Her direct line is back to William HARRIS who married Parker COLLINS daughter, Susan. Their family is given below: William Harris Born: 1805 in NC? Died: 1865 married Susan Collins Born: 1818 Died: July 04, 1889 - Cobb County, GA -- according to my notes they married in Forsyth or Cherokee County, GA Children: Emily Harris: Did not live long enough to marry or have children. - James S. Harris married 1st Jennie Hunter married 2nd Wife Pyrene Strickland - Joseph B. Harris married 1st Beuna Vista Deaver married 2nd Wife Rosa B. Chew - William G. Harris: Did not live long enough to marry or have children. - Charles Harris Fact 1: 1/8 Cherokee married Apsilla Bailey - Eliza Jane Savannah Harris married William D. McMakin - John Harris - Colonel Johnson Harris Born: April 19, 1856 married 1st Nannie E. Fields married 2nd Wife Mary Elizabeth Adair married 3rd Wife Caroline Alice Collins Nee Hall - Redbird Harris Born: July 30, 1839 in Forsyth, Georgia married Sarah Ellen Rogers Born: February 28, 1840 in Georgia Married: July 30, 1862 in Georgia - Parker Collins Harris Born: November 09, 1845 Died: 1920, buried in Brushy Mountain Cemetery married Mary Angeline Davis Born: July 18, 1859 in Dekalb County, Alabama, buried in Brushy Mountain Cemetery - Philo Harris Born: 1848 Died: 1933, buried in Brushy Mountain Cemetery According to one of Don Shadburn's books the 3 HARRIS' mentioned in the will are all brothers. I have not been able to find any information any further back on that HARRIS line, but according to some of the census information, William was born in NC. The family is Cherokee in descent, and my wife's HARRIS line descended through Colonel Johnson HARRIS, whose was Cherokee Chief. According to 'Unhallowed Intrusions: A Georgia Journal of Cherokee History and Genealogy.' It states that he was the son of William Harris (died 1865) and Susan Collins. His Cherokee blood came from CJ's mother, Susan Collins, who was the daughter of Nannie Corderoy. Nannie's whose Father was Thomas Corderoy who married Susannah Sonicooie (100% Cherokee Blood). There is an online bio on Chief HARRIS: http://digital.library.okstate.edu/Chronicles/v017/v017p017.html If anyone who has any information on William's siblings or parents, it would be appreciated. Thanks, Jeff Lee, 3M Pharmaceuticals and Drug Delivery Systems Northridge, Ca. 01-489 IDD Manufacturing Product Manager Tel: 8.639.3030 / 818.709.3030 Fax: 8.639.3081 / 818.709.3081 HARRIS-HUNTERS-D-request@r ootsweb.com To: HARRIS-HUNTERS-D@rootsweb.com cc: 07/25/2003 11:00 AM Subject: HARRIS-HUNTERS-D Digest V03 #168 Please respond to HARRIS-HUNTERS-L ----- Message from Unknown on Unknown ----- HARRIS-HUNTERS-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 168 Today's Topics: #1 [HH] Will of Parker Collins, Forsy ["Ira L. Harris III" <barebear@evan] #2 [HH] Forsyth County, Georgia --- 1 ["Ira L. Harris III" <barebear@evan] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from HARRIS-HUNTERS-D, send a message to HARRIS-HUNTERS-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ ----- Message from "Ira L. Harris III" <barebear@evansville.net> on Thu, 24 Jul 2003 18:48:04 -0500 (CDT) ----- To: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HH] Will of Parker Collins, Forsyth County, Georgia, August 1833 Source: Some Georgia County Records, Vol. VI Compiled by The Rev. Silas Emmett Lucas, Jr. Southern Historical Press Forsyth County Will Book A, 1833-1844 Record of the Proceedings of the Court of Ordinary Contributed by Mary Annette Schroeder, Cumming, Georgia Abstracted by Mary Annette Schroeder Pages 1-5: August 21, 1833 Will of Parker Collins...to my eldest dau. Sally Harris, my Negro girl Celia, age 13, and her future increase...to my second daughter Eliza Harris, my Negro girl May Ann and her future increase...to my third daughter Lucinda Collins, my Negro girl Rose and her future increase...to my fourth daughter Susan Harris, my Negro girl Betsy and her future increase...to my fifth daughter Jane Collins, my Negro girl Louise and her increase...to my sixth daughter Nancy Collins, my Negro girl Fanny and her increase...to my seventh daughter Kathy Collins, my Negro girl Caroline and her increase...to my eighth daughter Mary Collins, my Negro boy Henry... to my ninth daughter Martha Collins, my Negro boy Jacob...to my eldest son Joseph Collins, my Negro boy George...to my second son Parker Collins, my Negro boy Andy...for the education of children June Collins, Nancy Collins, Kathy Collins, Parker Collins and Martha Collins, custody of tuition to my wife Ann Collins...to wife Ann Collins, Negro slaves Sam and his wife Hannah, Celia, Molly, David and his wife Riah; also 10 cows, calves, 10 two-year-old head of cattle, all stock of hogs, household and kitchen furniture, plantation tools and farming utensils, five horses and tract of land on which I live...to daughter Susan Harris, land known as Collins Cowpens whereon Henry Bagley now lives...to my youngest son Parker Collins, $100 to purchase horse, saddle and bridle...to daughers who have not received cows and calves and bed furniture, $50. Appts: sons- in-laws Charles Harris, Rance B. Harris and William Harris Executors. Parker (X) Collins. Wit: James McGinnis, John Smith, Mat J. Williams. Sworn in open court August 5, 1833. Signed: William Matthews, J.I.C., Isaac Whaton, J.I.C., Richard Hayes, J.I.C., Mason Ezzell, J.I.C. Sworn in court August 26, 1833. Charles (X) Harris, Rance B. (X) Harris, William (X) Harris. Recorded in open court August 26, 1833. James McGinnis swore he saw Parker Collins sign will. Dated August 5, 1833. Charles Harris, Rance B. Harris, and William Harris swore to properly execute will of Parker Collins. Dated August 26, 1833. Pages 6-7: Will of Parker Collins exhibited in court, proved and admitted to record, Adm. of Estate granted to Charley Harris, Rance B. Harris and William Harris...required to render inventory...Witnesses the Hon. William Matthews, W.A. Ross, C.C.O. ************* Over the next several pages the processing of this will is documented (all the way up into 1837). Also mentioned in this process is an Abraham Harris and an Ezekiel Harris [no relationship shown] Lucinda Collins evidently married H. Sutton from the way the Second Return of the Estate of Parker Collins, dated July 13, 1834 reads. Rance B. was evidently married to Eliza. Charley was evidently married to Sarah. William was evidently married to Susan. Can anyone tell me what Harris line these men are from? Are they brothers? Are they related to Abraham or Ezekiel? Any insight is appreciated. Please route your responses through HH or H-GA so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Evv., In. ______________________________ ----- Message from "Ira L. Harris III" <barebear@evansville.net> on Thu, 24 Jul 2003 18:56:37 -0500 (CDT) ----- To: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HH] Forsyth County, Georgia --- 1834 State Census (Harris) Source: Some Georgia County Records, Vol. VI Compiled by The Rev. Silas Emmett Lucas, Jr. Southern Historical Press Pages 297-299 Forsyth County, Georgia --- 1834 State Census Head of Household & number of white persons per family L. D. Harris --- 4 Abram Harris --- 4 Ezekiel Harris --- 2 Bird Harris --- 1 William Harris --- 1 Charles Harris --- 1 Are these Harris males related? If so, how are they related? Is L. D. Harris --- Lorenzo Dow Harris? Any insight is appreciated. Please route your response through HH or H-GA so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Evv., In.

Hello, I am seeking information about ANDREW JACKSON HARRIS of SEQUATCHIE MARION COUNTY, TENNESSEE. According to online data, Andrew J. Harris was the son of WILLIAM M. HARRIS b. about 1804 BLOUNT CO., TN. died 1875 and MARTHA RODDY b. in Washington Co., TN. died 1878. Martha and William married 23 Sept. Blount Co., TN. I would love to know the names of ALL of the children of Martha and William. I am VERY interested in their son, ANDREW JACKSON HARRIS, of SEQUATCHIE MARION COUNTY, TN. According to my grandmother's Bible record, Andrew Jackson Harris was my 3rd Great Grandfather. Any information would be very appreciated. Shannon

this was posted This information was found on a Crawford Family website. William Crawford, son of David & Ann (Anderson) Crawford, was born August 2,1733, in Albemarle County, Virginia and died May 12, 1828, in Albemarle County, Virginia. He was married to Frances Elizabeth Haris about 1760. Does anyone know who the parents of Frances Elizabeth were? On roots web world Connect the following - and there are many entries on this couple Have no idea how correct any of it is. Name: Elizabeth Francis HARRIS Given Name: Elizabeth Francis Surname: HARRIS Sex: F Birth: 27 JAN 1746 in Anna River,St Martin Parish,Louisa,Virginia Christening: 27 JAN 1746 Albmarle,Virginia Death: 1788 in Georgia Ancestral File #: MJML-1C LDS Baptism: 4 JUN 1929 Endowment: 11 APR 1930 Sealing Child: 10 DEC 1958 <A HREF="http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/#s1">1</A> Change Date: 3 OCT 1999 at 15:47:36 Father: <A HREF="http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:511280&id=I17080">Robert HARRIS</A> b: 1696 in St. Peter's,Parish,New Kent,England Mother: <A HREF="http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:511280&id=I17081">Mourning GLENN-GLEN</A> b: 1702 in Of,New Kent,Virginia Marriage 1 <A HREF="http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:511280&id=I16738">William CRAWFORD</A> Married: 1764 in ,Albemarle,VA Sealing Spouse: 1996 in PROVO

This information was found on a Crawford Family website. William Crawford, son of David & Ann (Anderson) Crawford, was born August 2,1733, in Albemarle County, Virginia and died May 12, 1828, in Albemarle County, Virginia. He was married to Frances Elizabeth Haris about 1760. Does anyone know who the parents of Frances Elizabeth were? Any insight is appreciated. Please respond through HH or H-COLONIALVA so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Evv., In.

Elbert Co. GA Marriage Bonds: Original Marriage bonds found in an unmarked wall box in the vault of the Superior Court of Elbert Co. in 1969. Source found at the GA Dept of Archives and History. Joseph Smith m. Mary Ann Harris 27 Dec 1824. Hope this is helpful to someone. Clare

Source:Bedford County, Tennessee Wills & Vital Records from Newspapers Compiled by: Helen C. & Timothy R. Marsh Indexed by: Timothy J. Edwards Southern Historical Press, Inc. Greenville, South Carolina, 1996 Will Book 2 Page 14 --- MALISSA E. HARRIS, 28 March 1896 Brother John B. Harris. Sister Fannie Mallard wife of Sam Mallard. Sister Mrs. Margaret Johnson wife of F. B. Johnson. Executor: W. J. Turrentine. Witnesses: W. J. Turrentine and S. A. Turrentine. Probated March 1898 Is this the Malissa Harris mentioned in an earlier Bedford County will abstract? What Harris line is this Malissa a part of? Any insight is appreciated. Please respond through HH or H-TN so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Evv., In.

Source:Bedford County, Tennessee Wills & Vital Records from Newspapers Compiled by: Helen C. & Timothy R. Marsh Indexed by: Timothy J. Edwards Southern Historical Press, Inc. Greenville, South Carolina, 1996 Page 794 --- ALFRED HARRIS, 26 march 1897 Son John Harris, who now lives and tends to me, gets the land I purchased of Bartley and Hannah Posey on January 26, 1870. Posey tract is about 10 acres, bounded on the east of lands of B. A. Usery and J. T. Dryden, south by land I bought from Temple heirs, west by lands of L. T. Williams, Sr., and north by T. R. Sims. Son Sam Harris to get the land I bought of the Temple heirs in about 1881, 3 3/4 acres, bounded by the lands of J. T. Dryden on the east, south by lands of George Stephens, west by L. T. Williams, Sr., north by my place where I now live and have given above to John Harris. Witteseese: F. B. Landers and J. T. Stephens. probated April 1897 Does anyone recognize Alfred and his two sons? What Harris line are they part of? Any insight is appreciated. Please respond through HH or H-TN so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Evv., In.

Source:Bedford County, Tennessee Wills & Vital Records from Newspapers Compiled by: Helen C. & Timothy R. Marsh Indexed by: Timothy J. Edwards Southern Historical Press, Inc. Greenville, South Carolina, 1996 Page 761 --- NANCY T. HARRIS, 10 March 1891 Sister Malissa E. Harris. Executrix: Sister Malissa E. Harris. Witnesses: W. J. Turrentine and Ollie Turrentine. Probated October 1895 Does anyone recognize Nancy and her sister Malissa? What Harris line are they part of? Any insight is appreciated. Please respond through HH or H-Tn so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Evv., In.

Noticed with interest Ira L. Harris III's recent postings re: Harrises in Bedford County Tn in 1861 and 1863. My great grandfather Benjamin W. Harris left Cherokee County NC in 1863, settling in Bedford County, TN that same year. He lived the remainder of his life there (d) 30 June, 1905. His residence was about a mile from Wartrace, going toward Fairfield. I feel that there must have been HARRIS' and other relatives living there who influenced him, his wife Susan Elizabeth FORRESTER and their young family to make this move but so far I have not found proof. Benjamin W. Harris' father was William (Henry?) Harris, his mother Mary (Burton?). The federal census record of 1850 shows that Benjamin and all his siblings, except the last one, were born in Iredell County NC and that his father William was born in Campbell County, VA ca 1798. I would like to hear from anyone who has any information about this family. Burton Harris >From: "Ira L. Harris III" <barebear@evansville.net> >Reply-To: barebear@evansville.net >To: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [HH] Will Abstract: John T. Harris, Bedford County, Tennessee, >1863 >Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:33:47 -0500 (CDT) > >Source: Bedford County, Tennessee Wills > & Vital Records from Newspapers > Compiled by Helen C. & Timothy R. Marsh > Indexed by Timothy J. Edwards > Southern Historical Press, Inc. > Greenville, South Carolina, 1996 > >Page 175 --- JOHN T. HARRIS, 25 September 1863 >Son Lewis H. Harris gets the tract I now live on. Daughter Martha A. >Harris and her two children is to get the mansion house, if she >remains single. Daughter-in-law Elizabeth C. Harris to get the place >where she now lives for four years. Executor: Friend James P. >Taylor. Witnesses: William Taylor and Thomas Tarpley. Probated >November 1868. > > >Please route any comments concerning these Harris' through HH or H-Tn >so that others may be helped. > >Ira L. Harris III >Evv., In. > > >==== HARRIS-HUNTERS Mailing List ==== >HH Archives: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >HH Site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~confido/hindex2.htm >HH Data Base: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=harrishunters > _________________________________________________________________ See when your friends are online with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com

Source:Bedford County, Tennessee Wills & Vital Records from Newspapers Compiled by Helen C. & Timothy R. Marsh Indexed by Timothy J. Edwards Southern Historical Press, Inc. Greenville, South Carolina, 1996 Page 579 --- NANCY T. HARRIS, 30 July 1888 Niece Lula Evins. My own brothers and sisters: Louisa Gates, John Harris, Ann Anderson, Newton Harris, Ruth Harris, Lawson Harris, Joseph Harris, and Sarah Glasscock, each receive $1.00. Witnesses: Maggie Campbell and Mollie Campbell. Probated November 1888 Does anyone recognize Nancy T. Harris? What Harris line is she a part of? Any insight is appreciated. Please respond through HH or H-TN so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Evv., In.

Source: Bedford County, Tennessee Wills & Vital Records from Newspapers Compiled by Helen C. & Timothy R. Marsh Indexed by Timothy J. Edwards Southern Historical Press, Inc. Greenville, South Carolina, 1996 Page 285 --- MARY J. HARRIS, 26 November 1874 Brother J. A. Harris, Gule Christopher, daughter of Dr. W. H. Christopher. Tula Eakin, daughter of Albert Eakin. Sister, not named, gets my wooden box which contains trinkets and breast pin that was my mother's. Mrs. Able Eakin, pictures and picture frames, and workbasket. Minnie Moore, braclets and Hymn Book. Bettie Davidson gets Scrap Book and all loose pieces of poetry. Bessie Dayton, my photo and that of Tyson Harris, also toilet bottles, white dresses and hat. Mrs. Christopher gets my scarf. Brother's wife Magie, embroidered flounce, my toilet mats, lamp mats, and my blue parasol. Gule Christopher, lace hankerchief and my cuff buttons. Executors: Mr. Ab Eakin and Dr. Christopher. Witnesses: Cyrena Eakin, S. M. Thompson and Thomas Lipscomb. Probated January 1875 Does anyone recognize Mary J. Harris? What Harris line is she part of? Please respond through HH or H-TN so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Evv., In.

Source: Bedford County, Tennessee Wills & Vital Records from Newspapers Compiled by Helen C. & Timothy R. Marsh Indexed by Timothy J. Edwards Southern Historical Press, Inc. Greenville, South Carolina, 1996 Page 175 --- JOHN T. HARRIS, 25 September 1863 Son Lewis H. Harris gets the tract I now live on. Daughter Martha A. Harris and her two children is to get the mansion house, if she remains single. Daughter-in-law Elizabeth C. Harris to get the place where she now lives for four years. Executor: Friend James P. Taylor. Witnesses: William Taylor and Thomas Tarpley. Probated November 1868. Please route any comments concerning these Harris' through HH or H-Tn so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Evv., In.

Source: Bedford County, Tennessee Wills & Vital Records from Newpapers Compiled by Helen C. & Timothy R. Marsh Indexed by Timothy J. Edwards Southern Historical Press, Inc. Greenville, South Carolina, 1996 Page 4 --- JAMES HARRIS, 30 August 1861 Wife Nancy Harris. Daughter Nancy Freeman. Son John T. Harris. Son Hiram Harris. Daughter Elizabeth Lentz. Daughter Elvira Turrentine. Daughter Sally T. Williams. Grandson William J. Hill, son of Almeed (a) J. Hill, formerly Harris. Witnesses: H. A. Williaaams and S. D. Williams. Probated 186_. Hope this helps someone. Please respond, with any comments, through HH or H-TN so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Evansville, Indiana

Source: Land Deed Genealogy of Bedford Conty, Tennessee, 1807-1852 Compiled by Helen C. Marsh & Timothy R. Marsh Page 13 --- 4 January 1832. George T. Harris to Elizabeth Parker, both of Bedford County, Tennessee, conveyed 190 acres on Alexanders Creek. Wit: Evan Harris, Esq. and Martha Harris. Reg: 1 June 1832. What is the relationship between these Harris'? Any insight is appreciated. Please respond through HH or H-TN so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Evansville, Indiana

Hello! does anyone have any Harris Families that moved to Ohio in the 1830/40s......my Harris ancestor David Wesley Harris has been very difficult for us to find his family background. David lived in Bryan, Williams Co, Ohio.........married Eliza jane Mattocks 1847..........had 4 children Mary, Edward, John Wesley, and Nancy. David was born about 1823 in Ohio, died Feb 28, 1864 Bryan, Williams Co, Ohio..........anyone know of this Harris line. Looking for his parents, any help appreciated Thanks Lorraine _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup

I have transcribed the download of a photo page Emma Wills Harris sent me regarding the family of David Harris b 1730 England m Dorothy Hounslow in 1760 in England. This David Harris came to VA from her record. Sons William b 1760 VA and Jonathan are found in Shelby Co, KY records. "Harris Family History on page 128: This is the information for which this author has searched far and wide. Thanks to the help of Mildred Gray who told this author that there was a letter written by Wyatt Harris on his family, this author was able to launch an investigation to find his letter. Mildred Gray found notes on this Harris family in the Kentucky Historical Society written by Mrs. Ernest Reklis on the Harris family using information obtained from a letter written by Wyatt Harris, Jr., to his cousin in Putnam Co, IN in early1900's. This letter traces the Harris family in this book back to Kent, England. Here are quotes from the letter. "David Harris was born in Kent County, England in the year 1730 where his ancestors had been born and raised and lived for many generations. In the oldest record that I could find in the Parish Church in Kent, England, the name is spelled Harrissee, which is the way the Normans would spell the name Harris. The family in England, when Great-grandfather, David Harris, came to America, were engaged in Hops growing in Kent. In the year 1760, said David Harris was married to an English lady, (whose name was later found to be Dorothy Hounslow from a letter sent to an old cousing in 1910) and soon after crossed the sea, and settled on a tract of land, on the James River in the Colony of Virginia-a part of the land, then owned by said David Harris is now covered by a part of the city of Richmond.." A copy of the letter is available if anyone of the Harris family wishes to have it. Wyatt Harris goes on to say that David and Dorothy Harris had seven children of which William was the oldest. Some of the dates do not match those of record, but here they are: William Harris born in 1760; Dorothy Harris born in 1764; David Harris born in 1766; Docia Harris born in 1769' Catherine Harris born in 1771 Sherod Harris born in 1773; Jonathan Harris born in 1777. William Harris, eldest son of the above named David Harris was married to Keziah Sneed (of Welch ancestry) in the year 1782 in VA, and after the close of the Revolutionary War, he migrated to, and settled in what is now Shelby County, Kentucky, where he reared a family of ten sons and daughters. Wyatt Harris goes on to tell about the family as he knows them in the letter. A copy of the letter will be in the Shelby County, Kentucky library. In the letter that Wyatt Harris wrote to D. Harris in Vermillion, Kansas in 1908, he stated that he had traced the family back to 1645 in England. The records were destroyed after his death. Keziah Sneed's father was John Sneed. This information was obtained by a suit filed by her against his estate."

Forward of post from Emma Wills Harris > David and Dorothy Hounslow Harris married in 1760 and came to America settled     > on James River part of the land now is Richmond.     > William Harris born 1760     > Dorothy Harris born 1764     > David Harris born 1766     > doc Harris born 1769     > Catherine Harris born 1771     > Sherod Harris born 1773     > Jonathon Harris born 1777     > William the oldest and Jonathon the youngest both settled in Shelby County     > Kentucky     > thanks Emma  old maw

Hi, Harrises, Looking for descendants of Johnson Harris, b. 1822 in Wilkes Co., NC [son of Squire HARRIS & Mary Ann Elizabeth PHILLIPS {and grandson of William & Sarah HARRIS of VA & NC.}] Johnson & Martha "Matty" [UNKNOWN] married unknown place, probably Russell Co., VA? Johnson and Martha were recorded 1850 in Russell Co., VA; in 1860 in Carter Co., KY; in 1870 in Carter Co., KY; and 1880 in Kandiyohi Co., MN [the only Harris family in that place that census year.] Johnson and Martha had children: 1. George A. Cowan Harris b. 1847, b. Russell Co., VA [recorded as "Cowan"] 2. Squire Q. Harris b. 1849, Russell Co., VA 3. Nancy Harris b. 1850, Russell Co., VA 4. John H. [A.?] Harris b. 1855, Russell Co., VA 5. Thomas R. Harris b. 1860, Carter Co., KY 6. Margaret Harris b. 1864, Carter Co., KY 7. Martha Harris b. 1867, Carter Co., KY 8. Lafayette Harris b. 1869, Carter Co., KY 9. Napolean B. Harris b. 1871, Carter Co., KY --- The 1890 census has been, for the most part, totally destroyed, so it is difficult to follow any lines that were not absolutely immobile in the same place between 1880 & 1900 (that is quite a lot of years---in some cases, it would encompass the last record of one generation of a family, and the first record of the next generation.) Given the history of this particular branch of my Harris family, the descendants of any of these persons could have ended up anywhere in the U.S. Does anyone out there recognize any of the persons I have documented? If so, please do contact me. Pam Stone Ross pamstone@digital.net

Dear Common-Name Researchers (and that is a lot of us) Patricia Hatcher is a well-known researcher/lecturer headquartered in the Dallas, TX area. She has authored several books. The article below is from a free Ancestry Daily News, info given below. One does not have to be a subscriber to Ancestry.com in order to receive these helpful newsletters, which has one article each issue by a well-known genealogist, to help all of us strugglers/stragglers in doing a more adequate job in our compiling family histories. And do we Harris-Hunters need help!!! E.W.Wallace Here is the cut & paste: ===================================================================== ANCESTRY DAILY NEWS SHARE THE "ANCESTRY DAILY NEWS" Do you have a friend who might enjoy one of today's articles? Why not send it on to them and let them know about our free service? The "Ancestry Daily News" sign-up box is at: http://www.ancestry.com/learn ===================================================================== ===================================================================== "JUDGING YOUR OWN RESEARCH," by Patricia Law Hatcher, CG, FASG ===================================================================== It can be difficult to judge our own work. Because I am an editor, I find it easier than many researchers do to change hats and assume a purely analytical role. Recently I found it necessary to define some of the questions I raise when analyzing research. You may find it easier to analyze your own work by asking yourself these five questions. DOES THE CHRONOLOGY FIT? List all of the events for each family, each with an associated date and place. Sort them chronologically. Indicate for each event if the date is REAL (from a record), STB (Said To Be, as in a family history which did not give a REAL source), or EST (estimated). Are there far more entries labeled STB and EST than labeled REAL? If a date is STB, this implies that you should be able to track down the source and turn it into a REAL. Examine events with EST dates. We often have to estimate events in areas with insufficient records. However, consider whether it is a reasonable estimate based on other events or whether you estimated it as you did because that's what you wanted it to be. Add events such as county formations to indicate that the switch from Brown County to Greene County was probably not a move. Add an event for any moves. This is usually a range of years. Make sure that the number of moves is reasonable and that they make sense. This is a good way to spot same-name problems. Jot down the age at which significant events such as first marriage, first purchase of land, and death occurred. Make sure they are reasonable. Calculate the time between the births of the children. Any gap that is too small indicates a serious problem. Any gap that is larger than expected may suggest the death of a wife and a remarriage. ARE THE COUSINS ALL ACCOUNTED FOR? I find it scary to contemplate how much of my research was done solely by tracing my lineage, before I understood the value of whole family research. Again and again I have seen invalid lineages revealed in information sent by clients as soon as I started compiling a whole family with all the siblings and cousins. I find that it often helps to view any family group as having three generations (parents, children, grandchildren), not just the two provided on the standard family group sheet. One benefit is that when I carefully determine birth dates for all grandchildren (not just those in the line of interest), use their birth dates to estimate marriage dates in the second generation, and use the marriage dates to estimate birth dates in the second generation, sometimes a significantly different family structure appears for the parents and children in the first and second generation than I got by focusing only on them. This is another good way to highlight potential same-name problems. When cousins, nephews and uncles, or fathers and sons share the same given name, reexamine all events to see that each is assigned to the correct individual. DID YOU FOLLOW THE FEMALES? Is your research unbalanced? Do you have much more information on sons and brothers than on daughters and sisters? Quite frankly, it's easier to focus on the males in a family. They left more records, and they didn't change their names. You probably found it relatively easy to find records for all the males in a family because they were listed in the index right there with the male ancestor you knew about and were researching. Females are a different matter. First, there are more names to check. You'll have to look for the records of them, their husbands, and their children under their married surname(s). Second, it is unlikely that you started your research knowing all of those names. Make a list of all female names (with their spouses) and review all of the sources you examined originally. WAS YOUR ANCESTOR A WIDOWER? What evidence do you have that the woman whose name is listed as the wife of your ancestor is the mother of his children? Many widows and widowers remarried, particularly those with children still in the home. Look at each of the children, not just your ancestor, and ask yourself why you think this child belonged to both the man and the woman you have listed as parents. Some common "gotcha's" derive from the US census, which did not request relationship information until 1880. Even then, stepchildren of the head of household may have been listed as children and possibly even shown with the same surname. Be sure you have found every child on every census during their life to protect against this problem. What is the last record you have for each female? Have you been looking unsuccessfully for a tombstone, death certificate, and other record under the surname of your paternal ancestor? You won't find them if she remarried. HAVE YOU USED UP THE LEFTOVERS? Leftovers are records that aren't assigned to an individual in a whole-family construction. If you researched properly and collected information on all persons of the surname in the time and locality, you usually have leftovers. Some leftovers are understandable. For example, if you have three Samuel Smiths in your family (father, son, and nephew), all of whom were between 25 and 50 in 1841, and you have a record for a Samuel Smith who served on a jury that year, you will not be able to determine which Samuel the record should be assigned to. On the other hand, if the 1841 record is a marriage, but according to your family construction all three men have wives at the time, then you have a problem. A BIG problem. Dig in and research this, even if no Samuel is in your ancestral line. Resolving this may rearrange the family and realign your own ancestral lines as a result. There is another type of leftover to watch for--a potentially important person such as a beneficiary in a will or a sponsor to a baptism whom you did not identify. They may hold the key to answers you seek. CONCLUSION Why do these questions matter? I can't predict for any given case, but I do know that asking these questions and following up often changes lineages, rearranges families, and leads to solving genealogical problems. ____________________________________________________________________ Patricia Law Hatcher, CG, FASG, is a technical writer, instructor, and professional genealogist. Her oft-migrating ancestors lived in all of the original colonies prior to 1800 and in seventeen other states, presenting her with highly varied research problems and forcing her to acquire techniques and tools that help solve tough problems. She is the author of "Producing a Quality Family History" (http://www.ancestry.com/rd/prodredir.asp?sourceid=831&key=P1024 ). 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Wanda: Yes, I did mean to say Orange Co., Va. for my Thomas Harris d 1782 family in Orange. There is a Henry Harris mentioned in Orange Co. Volume of The Harris Papers by K. Wiggins as follows: Since this info is 1738--you must map this out--new counties were being formed from Orange in the time period of your Henry and Annie's birthdates. Orange Co. Land Grants - Henry Harris, 400 acres, 1738 in Orange and Hanover, east side of Rapidanne River and Pritty's Creek. p 4 MY NOTE: I've appended below Va County Formation info as submitted to this list by Ira Harris. Orange Co. Order Book #8 1769-1777 p 12, Henry Harris appears as a witness for Edward Williams in his case against Francis Williams On p 6 referencing the Harris marriages in the Orange Co. Marriage Reg. #1, 1757-1867, there is a marriage of Allie Harris & Caleb Norris June 18, 1812--I have penciled a note that Allie/Ally/Olly was dau. of a Henry Harris but didn't note where I got that info. from--so please research that carefully. Ira Harris posted some time ago the Va County Formations to which I filed in my email folder and frequently refer and recommend those early Va researchers keep this list close by--thanks so much, Ira! Here's Ira's post: Carol Source: Handy Book for Genealogists Edited by George B. Everton Sr. Sixth Edition The Everton Publishers, Inc. Co. Name Created Parent County Accomack 1634 Northampton Albemarle 1744 Goochland, Louisa Amelia 1734 Brunswick, Prince George Amherst 1758 Albemarle Augusta 1738-45 Orange Bath 1790-91 Augusta, Botetourt,Greenbrier Bedford 1753 Albemarle, Lunenburg Berkeley (W.V.) 1772 Botetourt 1769 Augusta Brooke (W.V.) 1796 Brunswick 1720 Prince George, Isle of Wight Buckingham 1758 Albemarle, Appomattox Campbell 1781-82 Bedford Caroline 1727028 Essex, King & Queen,King William Charles City 1634 Original Shire Charles River (See York) Charlotte 1764-65 Lunenburg Chesterfield 1749 Henrico Culpeper 1748 Orange Cumberland 1748-49 Goochland Dinwiddie 1752 Prince George Elizabeth City 1634 Original Shire Essex 1692 Old Rappahannock Fairfax 1742 Prince William, Loudoun Fauquier 1758 Prince William Fincastle 1772 Botetourt (discontinued 1777) Fluvanna 1777 Albemarle Franklin 1785 Bedford, Henry, Patrick Frederick 1738-43 Orange, Augusta Gloucester 1651 York Goochland 1727 Henrico Grayson 1792-93 Wythe, Patrick Greensville 1780 Brunswick, Sussex Halifax 1752 Lunenburg Hanover 1720 New Kent Henrico 1634 Original Shire Henry 1776-77 Pittsylvania, Patrick Illinois 1778 Augusta (discontinued 1784) Isle of Wight 1634 Original Shire James City 1634 Original Shire Kentucky 1777 Fincastle (discontinued 1780) King and Queen 1691 New Kent King George 1720-21 Richmond, Westmoreland King William 1701-02 King and Queen Lancaster 1651 Northumberland, York Lee 1792-93 Russell, Scott Loudoun 1757 Fairfax Louisa 1742 Hanover Lower Norfolk 1637 New Norfolk Lunenburg 1746 Brunswick Madison 1792-93 Culpeper Mathews 1790-91 Gloucester Mecklenburg 1764-65 Lunenburg Middlesex 1673 Lancaster Montgomery 1776-77 Fincastle, Botetourt, Pulaski Nansemond 1637 Upper Norfolk Nelson 1807-08 Amherst New Kent 1654 York (Pt. James City) New Norfolk 1636 Elizabeth City Norfolk 1636 Lower Norfolk Northampton 1634 Original Shire prior to 1642 called Accawmack) Northumberland 1648 Indian Dist. of Chickacoan Nottoway 1788-89 Amelia Orange 1734 Spotsylvania Patrick 1790-91 Henry Pittsylvania 1766-67 Halifax Powhatan 1777 Cumberland, Chesterfield Prince Edward 1753-54 Amelia Prince George 1702-03 Charles City Prince William 1730-31 King George, Stafford Princess Anne 1691 Lower Norfolk Rappahannock 1833 Culpeper Old Rappahannock Abolished 1692 Richmond 1692 Old Rappahannock Rockbridge 1778 Augusta, Botetourt Rockingham 1778 Augusta Russell 1785 Washington Shenandoah 1772 Frederick (Dunmore until 1778) Southampton 1749 Isle of Wight, Nansemond Spotsylvania 1720-21 Essex, King and Queen, King William Stafford 1664 Westmoreland Surry 1652 James City Sussex 1753-54 Surry Tazewell 1799 Russell, Wythe Upper Norfolk 1637 New Norfolk Warrosquoyacke 1634 Changed to Isle of Wight 1637 Warwick 1634 Discontinued 1953 Washington 1776-77 Fincastle, Montgomery Westmoreland 1653 Northumberland Wythe 1789 Montgomery (Pt. Grayson) Yohogania 1776 Augusta (discontinued 1786) York 1634 Original Shire I was working on my Virginia Notebooks and decided that I needed the above information at hand. So I worked it out, and decided to send it to help those using the Cavaliers and Pioneers information. Hope this helps someone, Ira L. Harris III Evv., In. On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 23:00:22 -0700 (PDT) "Dann or Wanda Flesher" <dflesher@owt.ocm> writes: > Carol, You mention Orange Co (Va?) Harris line: Assuming you're > talking about Virginia - Do you have any information about Henry > Harris, b > 1742, Orange Co, VA or his wife, Annie Bird, b 1740, Orange Co VA? > He > died in Madison Co KY, in 1835. Annie died Madison Co KY in 1816. > Will > appreciate any bit of info you can send. Thanks very much. > > Wanda Flesher > > > Posting Thomas Harrises wherever I can find them--this just > happens to be > > the vicinity in which the descendants of my Orange Co. Harris > line > > finally settled down and are buried (Pulaski Co., IL). > > > > There was a Thomas H. Harris who bought land in Union Co., IL as > early as > > 1818, Preston Precinct taken from the book, History of Union Co., > IL Vol > > I, by George E. Parks: > > > > p 140 - seems to had land prior to 1818 - > > "farther up the river Preston Precinct was settled by Thomas H. > Harris, > > 1111.95 acres..." > > > > p 143, between 1825-35: Union Precinct west of Jonesboro along > the Miss. > > River: > > Thomas H. Harris 40 acres > > > > p 198, between 1835-50: Preston Twp: William Harris 40 acres > > > > This large book is not indexed but does have good early history of > this > > county. > > ---------------------------------------------- > > Another book, History of Alexander, Union, & Pulaski Counties, by > Wm H. > > Perrin 1883 also gives the following on Thomas H. Harris: > > > > p 68 - "On the 9th day of January, 1818, the Territorial > Legislature > > concluded the time had come that imperatively demanded that a city > be > > founded here, and on that day it passed an act for the > incorporation of > > the "City and Bank of Cairo in the State of Illinois", the > incorporators, > > consisting of John G. Comyges, Thomas H. Harris, Thomas F. > Herbert, > > Shadrach Bond, Michael Jones, Warren Brown, Edward Humphreys and > Charles > > W. Hunter who had entered a certain tract of land between the Ohio > and > > Miss. Rivers and near the junction of the same. This land > included > > franctional Sections 14, 15, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 and the northeast > > fractional quarter of Section 27, Town 17 south, Range 1 west, > and > > contained about 1,800 acres... > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HARRIS-HUNTERS Mailing List ==== > > HH Archives: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > HH Site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~confido/hindex2.htm > > HH Data Base: > http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=harrishunters > > > > > > > For Freedom's Sake - Love God, Love America > >