Ira, There are two of us IOW Harris' in the DNA study Line of Joel Harris son of Edward Harris and Mary Thorpe, A group of People trying to prove decent from Daniel Harris and we shortly will have a decendent from Edward Harris III. His test is ordered. We have a match with Joel and Daniel 25/25 and the 37 is only 1 off.We are in the process of contacting a West Harris decendent. Have you done a test? Darlene

Hi Cindi, and Anita, The fartherest back I have is Clabon (Claiborn, Claibourne) Harris b. about 1760-65 d. 1833 Fayette County, TN. His wife Alice Young Hill probably died before the 1820 census was taken. Their children: James b. probably in the 1780's died before 1840 m. Elizabeth "Betsy " Stanfield in Maury County TN 1811 (2) Sarah L. Harris m. Cain had moved to Cass County Texas by 1855 (3.) Mumford Monroe b. 1786-87 d. 1814 Methodist Preacher, (4)Stephen b. 1794 d. 1855 Marshall County, MS bachelor, (5) Dorrel Young b. 29 July 1795 d. Jan.d. 18 Jan. 1854 Marshall County, MS, m. 1819 Harriet Peeples,(6) Claiborne Harris, Jr. b. 1798 m. Diana Boone in 1823. She died 1849 He was in Holmes Co. MS in 1855, (7) Robert Park Harris, b. 1804 m. (1) Goodrich (2) Winifred Neville (8)Nancy D. Harris b. 1807 m George Jackson Goodrich (9)Wesley Harris (10) Samuel Harris (11) Hampton Harris m. Dean (12) Louisa Harris m. Birthright (13) Mary Y. Harris m. John Wimberly I have the names of the children of James, Sarah, Dorrel Young (my ancestor) Claiborne, Robert Park, and Nancy D. In 1800 Claiborne and his family were in Anson County, N. C. They sold their property there in 1807 and moved along with the family of James Goodrich to the Yellow Creek area of Dickson/Montgomery Counties TN. Stephen, Claiborn and Dorrel Young Harris are listed in the roles of the War of 1812 from Dickson County, TN. In the1830 census Dorrel Y. Harris and George Goodrich Jr (married to Nancy D. Harris) Claiborne Jr. had married Diana Boone in West Feliciana Parish LA in 1823 but moved to Fayette County in about 1825. He could have been instrumental in the moving of the rest of the family into Fayette County. James Harris, Robert Park Harris and probably Sarah Cain were also in Fayette County in the 1830 census. Between 1830 and 1833 (when old Claiborne died) the rest of the family moved there When the Indian lands opened up in 1837 they migrated to Marshall County MS where we find James' wife Elizabeth and her children and that James had died sometime prior to 1840. Claiborne Harris died in 1833 without a will and sons Stephen and Dorrel Young Harris were the executors. It took several years to get the estate settled. Stephen died in 1854 without children and willed his property to his sister Nancy Goodrich. She had one son that we know of named Robert D. Goodrich who was also in Marshall County at that time. Sarah Cain and Louise Birthright had gone to Cass County Texas by this time as did Mary Bryant who was a daughter of James and Elizabeth Harris. Their son Claiborne had died in 1853. James and Elizabeth had other children: James Douglas, Stephen J. and Elizabeth J. By 1854 when Stephen Harris died Claiborne Jr. had lost his wife Diana and was living in Holmes County MS. He had 4 children: Alice Jane, Philander, Eunice Louisa and Diana Wesley. After Dorrel Young Harris, son of Claiborne Haris, Sr. died in 1854 his wife Harriet removed to Forrest City Arkansas where she was in the 1860 census with several of her children (one of which was my grandfather Dorrel Young Harris, Jr.) I have the names (and dates) of the other children if anyone is interested. I found a notation the other day that there was a yellow fever epidemic in Holly Springs (Marshall County, MS) in 1854 which makes me wonder if these people died of yellow fever. Dorrel Harris Jr. was in the Civil War but got sick so paid someone to finish out his enlistment. I know this is rather lengthy but I hope it will shed some light on this branch of the Harris family. I believe the Claiborn Harris in Ala. may be the one who migrated from N. C. to S. C. rather than mine. Sarah

Bob, I'm right in the middle of canning peaches but was just taking a quick break. I have a copy of the microfilmed deed and BLM records which identify the physical locations of all of their lands but hadn't seen or heard of the other document which you mentioned. I've tried to find out where William G Harris (Thompson's son) went but am not sure whether he died or just went to Texas --- so to speak. I haven't done enough research, particularly, marriage records so I don't know who he married. Do you know? Do you know anything more about Thompson and Jane? Several years ago, I obtained the microfilmed probate records index and found an entry which indicated a transfer of property (Thompson to Jane) in about 1856 or so but since the county courthouse was totally burned at least once, not much survived besides the index book. In addition, I found another microfilmed probate records index that had a potentially interesting entry for Jane Harris circa 1860 or 1870 but had to obtain the hard copy from the courthouse and they refused to accept my check. At the time, I was a bit stubborn and decided not to pursue the records when they demanded a money order. Ten years later, I still don't have the record and it might have told me everything I want to know. Supposedly Jane Harris lived until after 1880 but I haven't found her presence in census records after 1850 Rusk County. Do you know anything else? Kristina Harris

The Thompson Harris listed in the 1830 Monroe Co. MS census was the son of Newsom Harris. Reference - Warren Co. NC Will Book Vol.25 (1827-1830) pp. 531-532. This document is also in LDS Film #0454311. That Thompson Harris deeds land to his son William G. Harris in Monroe Co. Ref. Monroe Co. Deed book 2 p220. That record is also abstracted in "Monroe Co, Mississippi Deeds books 1,2,&3" by Betty Wood Thomas. The above Newsom Harris was one of the sons of Isham Harris, b 1741, who was the son of West Harris b 1715. Bob Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: "harris220" <harris220@charter.net> To: <HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 2:21 AM Subject: Claiborn Thompson Harris > Is there any more known information about Claiborn Thompson Harris (the > 2nd or 3rd;) I've wondered whether he and Thompson Harris were related. > Thompson and Jane Beckham Harris were originally from South Carolina. It > appears that they migrated through Tennessee, settled in Monroe County, > Mississippi and then ended up in Rusk County Texas with John P Harris. > (John and Elizabeth Shed Harris were married in Jefferson County, AL. > According to other research, Thompson was the son of Newsom Harris. I've > seen some research identifying him as being related to West Harris. >

Crystal Burnham & Others, This is the information I have on Howell Harris and his wife, Elizabeth. I used the following resources to put this family together. 1. Lincoln County, Tennessee Census records for 1820, 1830, 1840,1850 2. Lincoln County, Tennessee Wills and Inventories Will Book 3, Will of Howell Harris Signed: August 4, 1864; Proven: October 7, 1865 Squire Pickle, executor Howell Harris, born 1784 in North Carolina died Bet. August 4, 1864-October 7, 1865 Elizabeth ________, born 1785 in North Carolina died ? Children Amy (Mary) b. 1822 ; married unknown Bledsoe; children - Theopulus; Tabithia (b. 1836, married Robert Long); and Howell Theopulus, b. 1813 in North carolina, married to Eliza Stewart on January 25, 1848 in Lincoln County, Tennessee. Found in 1850 Giles County, Tennessee Census, Household # 858-934. Children: Mary E. (b. 1848, d. June 12, 1856) buried Routt-Wells Cemetery, Lincoln County, Tennessee.; Martha E. (b. 1850, age 3months in 1850). Also in the household were W. H. Wells (b. 1827) and Rufus Harris (b. 1835) William Harris (now nothing about him) Howell Harris (b. Bet. 1810-1820) Incidentally, Squire Pickle was married #1 to a Martha Harris. They were married January 14, 1841 in Lincoln Co., Tn. Secondly, Squire married a Harriet Scott (m. October 3, 1861 in Lincoln County, Tn.) By Martha, Squire had at least one daughter, Nancy, who married Thomas Bryan (Bryant). Nancy and Thomas had at least two sons, William and Rufus. The Pickle Family are found in the following counties in the Carolina's. 1790 Newbern Dist., Dobbs Co and Hillsborough Dist, Orange Counties in North Carolina 1810 Green County, South Carolina 1820 Pendleton County, South Carolina 1830 Anderson County, South Carolina 1810 Rockingham, Lenoir, Orange, and Rowan Counties in North Carolina 1820 Lenoir County, North Carolina This is all that I know about this family at present. I do know that Howell is a commonly used name in the IOW harris family line from my present research. If anyone has proof or an idea of how this Howell fits into the Harris family picture, please share with us through the HARRIS-HUNTERS site. Any help or insight is appreciated. Please respond through the HH site so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III A descendant of Claiborne "Ned" Harris through his son, Goldman, and his grandson, Azael Daniel Harris.

Sarah, There have been numerous entries to military records for Claiborn and Daniel but I don't know which person(s) were actually the soldiers since there were several men named Claiborn & Daniel who lived throughout the south. Its always been my assumption that the Daniel who ended up in Jefferson County was probably the same one who was the soldier. His age was approximately right plus the similarity in names that I found in the Territorial census and then the 1830 census in Shelby County, AL. I also found Howel Harris in the Index to Volunteer Soldiers in Indian Wars and Disturbances (1815-1858) He served in Watkins Co. of the 2nd Vol. Mtd Gunmen of West TN in the war of 1812. I know that I've seen the name Dorrel but it didn't seem to be on any of my military lists. I probably just remember him from the census. By the way, I've been off the list for a while so I don't know whats been posted; a while back, I found a list of children for Claiborn Harris found who lived in Bibb County, AL. I'm not really researching him (seriously) and don't always pay much attention when I find new information but if you need the names I will post them. Kristina

Is there any more known information about Claiborn Thompson Harris (the 2nd or 3rd;) I've wondered whether he and Thompson Harris were related. Thompson and Jane Beckham Harris were originally from South Carolina. It appears that they migrated through Tennessee, settled in Monroe County, Mississippi and then ended up in Rusk County Texas with John P Harris. (John and Elizabeth Shed Harris were married in Jefferson County, AL. According to other research, Thompson was the son of Newsom Harris. I've seen some research identifying him as being related to West Harris.

I know quite a bit about Robert Park Harris. He was a brother of my great grandfather Dorrel Young Harris. Their father was Claiborne Harris (b. probably between 1760-65 d. 1833) and mother Alice Young Hill Harris. I have the names and dates of his brothers and sisters and have traced them back to Anson Co. N. C. in 1800. From there they came to the Yellow Creek area of Dickson/Montgomery Co. Tn. and then moved to Fayette County, Tn and in 1837 into Marshall County MS where Dorrel Young Harris (b. 1795) died in 1855. Robert Park was probably born in 1804. I will look in my records for other info and send it later. So, we are cousins. My branch went from Marshall County, MS to Forrest City Ark. in 1860 and from there my grandfather moved to Obion County TN where my Dad was born. (as was I) I don't know if Robert Park stayed in MS or if he too went to Ark. Hope this helps. Sarah

MISSISSIPPI TERRITORY RECORDS Civil Service Harris, Clabon Monroe County, Mississippi Territory. Authority: Official Bonds, Miss. Territory. Bond of George Fisher as sheriff, Monroe County. Feb. 1, 1816 1818 Civil Service Harris, Claiborne Washington County, Alabama Territory; Coroner; March 17, 1818 Authority: From list of appointment for Civil and Military Officers in Alabama Territory by Gov. Holmes in 1818. 1818 Civil Service Harris, Dan'l Alabama Territory Authority: Witness of bond of Hugh McVay for Clerk of Superior Court, April 10, 1818, from Official Bonds of County Civil Officers. Recorded in Book A., April 22, 1818 1818 Military Service Harris, Abraham Tuscaloosa County, Alabama Territory; Capt. Beat 8; April 24, 1818 Authority: From List of Commissions and Appointments for Civil and Military Officers in Alabama Territory by Gov. Holmes, 1818 1818 Civil Service; Harris, Alfred M. Alabama Territory; Licensed, Attorney and Counselor in Ala. Territory, Feb. 7, 1818 Authority: From List of Civil and Military Appointment for Alabama Territory by Gov. Holmes, 1818 1818 Civil Service Harris, Claiborne Monroe County, Alabama Territory, Coroner; March 17, 1818 Authority: From List of Commissions for Civil and Military Officers of Alabama Territory by Gov. Holmes in 1818. Notes: I don't have the exact microfilm number. Unfortunately, my record keeping skills are somewhat lacking. I've obtained almost all of the records locally through the Family History Center or local Genealogy Library and can get exact names and film numbers if necessary but the information should be fairly self explanatory. I haven't really gone any farther with researching the military aspect except to follow a couple of individuals like Daniel and Claiborn Harris and identify their migration patterns. At this point, I am fairly certain that Daniel Harris started out in Pendleton District / County, South Carolina; probably serving in the military which accounts for his being in the Mississippi territory as early as he was. From there, it appears that he resided in the territory (I think it was Adams County) and then eventually moved back (circa 1830) to Shelby and Jefferson County, AL. I will continue posting information at a later time. Kristina Harris

I neglected to mention that I will try to start posting some of the military records that I have in my collection. I don't make guarantees that it is complete or 100% accurate since I haven't actually gone back and verified these names with the original records. If you really need the information right now, (like me, too impatient to wait,) just let me know and I will check for you. Kristina Harris

INDEX FOR COMPILED SERVICE RECORDS - Alabama units in Florida War Volunteer Soldiers Harris, A.M. - Dent Co., Chisholm Battn; Pvt Harris, Andrew P. - Taylor Co., Chisholm Battn; Sgt Harris, Ezekiel - Bonham Co., Chisholm Battn; Pvt. Harris, J. C. - Shelley Co., Talladega Ranger; 2 Sgt Harris, J. W. - Nott Co., Chisholm Battn; Pvt Harris, McNary - Co. F., Snodgrass Battn; 1 Lt. Harris, Richmond - Liken Co., Ala. Mil.; Pvt Harris, Robert - Bonham Co., Chisholm Battn; Pvt. Harris, Stephen - Liken Co., Ala. Mil.; Pvt

Sarah, Thank you for your response. The information you sent is part of my line. Here is what I have: Claiborne "Ned" Harris b. 1725, Hanover County, Virginia (according to Maud Callaway Hays in her book) d. Bef. 1810, Granville Co., N.C. Wife: Judith Son: Claiborn Thompson Harris Jr. b. 1765, Granville Co., N.C. d. 1826, Blount Co., Alabama Wife: Mary L. Champion Grandson: Claiborn Thompson Harris III b. 1786, Warren (formerly part of Granville) Co., N.C. d. Abt.1862, Pontotoc Co., Ms. Wife: Mary Lucinda Gillison It is interesting that you have a James H. Harris Sr. in your information. There has been some discussion that Ned's father might be a James. I will have to look further. That is one of the reasons that I have been studying the IOW Harris line for the last month. Thirty years ago I started out working on this line. After about ten years I convinced myself that I was chasing down the wrong path. But recently, with the DNA project and my new "genetic cousins" I have come back to my original research. If we are part of the IOW line, that might explain why we are spread out like we are, even though genetically we are part of the same line. Back to my notebooks! Thank you once again for the information Ira L. Harris III Evansville, Indiana

Ira, I found this in my records. Claiborne Thompson Harris b. 1784 Warren Co. N. C. m. Mary Lucinda Gillison B. 1797 S. C. Children: George Harris b. 1809, Sarah Harris b. 1808 or 1807 (b. South Carolina Pendleton Dist). m. Nicholas Jacks b. 1804, Ky. Son William Thompson Jacks b. 1828 Ala. m. Jane Elizabeth Cannon b. 1829 Ala. Claiborne Thompson Harris Sr. b. cir 1754 Granville Co. N. C. father of Claiborne Thompson Harris, Jr. James H. Harris Sr. b. cir 1725 Isle of Wight Va. m Mary _____ d. 1800 Warren Co. N. C. (I assume this is the father of Claiborne Sr.) This information was sent to me by Evelyn Ballard and it was in a Family Bible From the Warren Co. N. C. records April 1800 Book 11 p. 44 Will of James Harris Sr. 10 April 1800 proved Nov. 1800 Court names sons Claiborne Exetr. James Exetr. daughter Celah Bobbitt land adjoining John Egerton Witness James Frame, William Millar. Hope this helps. I appreciate all that you post on the Harris Hunters. Sarah

Hi Katrina, I was interested in what you said in your note to Ira about the war records where you had found several Claiborne's listed. Do you still have access to those records and if so would you post them on the Harris hunters e-mail. My Claiborne Harris was in the Yellow Creek area of Dickson -Montgomery Counties TN from 1807 to 1830. His sons Claiborne, Stephen and Dorrel Young served in the war of 1812. (or I'm reasonably certain they did) There is a Howell Harris who was sued in Dickson Co. in 1824. Whether he is one of Ira's ancestors, I don't know. There is mention of Daniel Harris in the Dickson County Court records for 1816 to 1828. Would that tie in with your Daniel? I think I ran across a record somewhere that there was a Claiborn Thompson Harris in the Alabama records. Also there was a Daniel Seaborn Harris in Alabama who was descended from Sherwood Harris of Anson County and who died there in 1805. His son Sherwood, who may have been Daniel's father, was in Marshall County MS in the 1850's and died in Memphis, TN in 1869. Somewhere I have a letter from Daniel that tells a lot about that family but I haven't been able to find it yet. Hope this helps. Sarah

Ira, After I mailed my letter last night, I got to thinking about an idea which I hadn't considered. Benjamin F and Ashley B Harris were identified in records as the heirs of Richard W Harris. His widow was listed as "Susan" Harris. I'm not sure when he died but it seems like it may have been around 1840. I suppose its possible that Susan Harris (wife of Daniel) could have been the widow of Richard W Harris but the ages of the census records don't exactly fit. In any case, I still don't know where my families came from although they were probably related to Richard W Harris of Pitt County, North Carolina. Just recently, I had another idea and went back to my index of Harris names from the Indian Wars and also the war of 1812 and picked out two of them i.e. Mark Harris and Joel Harris who served in Trusdales regiment (not the complete name) and found that the Trusdale family was native to Sumner County, TN. Its logical to believe that Mark and Joel Harris were also native to that region. However, I haven't had time to actually research the records. I will report on them at a later date. Have you tried looking into the the war - time records? I know that there were several entries for "Claiborn Harris" and Daniel Harris. I am just not sure whether it was the right man. Kristina Harris -----Original Message----- From: Ira L. Harris III [mailto:barebear@insightbb.com] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 5:24 PM To: harris220 Subject: Re: [HH] Jefferson County, AL Kristina, Greetings from Indiana. Recently I have been researching the Isle of Wight County, Virginia Harris line in search of the parents of my Claiborne "Ned" Harris. I have noticed quite a few Joel's, Daniel's, and Howell's. Could your line perhaps go back to this line? I don't know if any were in Jefferson County, Alabama, but I think it might be worth consideration and pursuit. Ira L. Harris III Evansville, Indiana ----- Original Message ----- From: "harris220" <harris220@charter.net> To: <HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 12:56 AM Subject: [HH] Jefferson County, AL > A while back, I found an extracted Civil War military record of Robert > Marion Kelley, reportedly the son of Charles Kelley and Malinda Harris > Kelley. The information apparently was found in a Civil War census taken > about 1912. His mother, Malinda Harris Kelley, was said to be the > daughter of Daniel and Sarah Harris of Jefferson County, AL. > > Since this is the county of my ancestors birth, I am extremely > interested in researching all of the Harris families who lived in the > area during this period of time. However, there just seemed to be > something wrong with the aforementioned parents; i.e. Daniel and Sarah > Harris. I doubt that Daniel and Sarah Harris were a couple. She was > probably my ancestor and probably married to (1st) James Harris and (2nd > ) to Joel Harris. I couldn't really prove my point until just recently I > rediscovered several census records which make me believe that Daniel > Harris was in fact married to Susan Harris who also lived in Jefferson > County. > > 1850 - Household of Susan Harris included daughter Susan (25,) Benjamin > (19) Elizabeth (16) and Thomas, 20. Also on the same page was Robert > Thornton Harris and his wife Judith. His middle name was unclear. In > 1860, Susan and her family were also in the census. By 1870, Susan > Harris (senior) was probably deceased; the head of household was listed > as Thomas, wife Sarah and siblings BF and Elizabeth. Also in the > household, was Columbus Kelley. In 1880, Ben F Harris was listed as head > of household including his sisters and nephew, Columbus Kelley. > > Given the fact that Columbus was his nephew, his mother, "Malinda" was > the sister to the others and daughter of Susan Harris. Although it's > still unproven, I believe that Daniel Harris was earlier married to a > woman named Mary; they settled first in Mississippi Territory and by > 1830 had moved back to Shelby County, AL. I have the territory census > records and an early land record identifying his wife as Mary Harris. He > probably had older children by his first wife, one of which may have > been Allen Harris who settled in Coosa County and probably died in the > Civil War. I can link Daniel with my probable ggg grandfather, Joel > Harris through land records but still can't figure out their > relationship. He was also linked to Benjamin Franklin Harris of Shelby > County, AL., who in turn was supposedly the son of Richard W. Harris of > Pitt County, NC. > > Right now, I am trying to figure out if I can uncover any more > information with her BLM land record which states that she purchased > property in Jefferson County with a Military Warrant. Unfortunately, I > have not found any records identifying which war Daniel may have served. > He was listed as 60 - 70 years old in the 1840 census suggesting that he > probably was most likely to have served in the war of 1812. But, there > is simply no evidence to substantiate that idea. > > Does any one have any other information about researching military > warrants or early service. Does anyone know anything about RT Harris > listed in the Jefferson County, AL census. I assumed that he was the > individual who served in the 58th AL Infantry along with my ancestor but > I may be wrong about this point. I saw something that identified his > residence as Marengo County, AL., which contradicts what I believe is > right. > > Kristina Harris > > > ==== HARRIS-HUNTERS Mailing List ==== > HH Archives: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > HH Site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~confido/hindex2.htm > HH Data Base: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=harrishunters > >

Hello _farmer@inovant_ (mailto:farmer@inovant) You could be 100 % correct in your speculation of the identity of Mrs. Dorothy Gardiner. As far as I know there are only two direct references to Dorothy, wife of John Harris: The Virginia Colony Census of February 16, 1623 and the record of St. Dunstan's Parish, Stepney, London, Middlesex, England of May 1, 1624 recording the birth of their son John Harris Jr. at Lime House. There doesn't seem to be anything connecting Mrs. Dorothy Harris to Edward Gardiner, except the fact that John Harris' land adjoined that of Edward Gardiner. The fact that Edward Gardiner's wife was named Dorothy may be only coincidental. There were other next door neighbors to Edward Gardiner and undoubtedly, several women named Dorothy in the Virginia Colony of the early to mid 1600's. Supposing that Dorothy Gardiner's maiden name was Dorothy Jones or Dorothy Smith? If indeed John Harris' wife was Dorothy Callicott, as some people believe, then why would her father leave his land in Henrico County to his granddaughter instead of his daughter. The usual procedure was to leave property to the children unless they were deceased and then to the grandchildren of the deceased. Since the land of George Callicott was given to Dorothy (Harris) Baker, and presuming that George Callicott was some kind of relative of Dorothy (Harris) Baker, then it seems likely that Mrs. Dorothy Harris was also deceased by 1638. Although I believe that Mrs. Dorothy Harris was Dorothy Lymbry of Somersetshire and Lime House, I am sure that in some way she was related to George Callicott....the relationship could have been step-daughter, step-sister, granddaughter or non-blood neice or any number of other relationships, but the fact that George Callicott gave his land to a very young (19 years old) Dorothy Harris Baker instead of Mrs. Dorothy Harris would be a strong indication that mother Dorothy was deceased. My conclusions were that she was Dorothy Lymbry, daughter of Edward Lymbry and that it was her father's given name as the origin of all of the Edward Harrises in the line of descendants and that Dorothy (Lymbry) Harris died prior to 1638, as did her husband John Harris. Also, there is a mountain of evidence to show that the descendants of John Harris were residents of Isle of Wight County, Virginia as early as 1652 or before, and seem to have no connection to New Kent County or to Henrico County, Virginia. Sincerely, James E. Hargraves In a message dated 9/3/2004 9:52:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, farmer@inovant.com writes: Here is my explanation with records on Dorothy's history. Please let me know if there are any problems with this or misunderstandings. The first record for Dorothy in Virginia is with her first husband and two children when they were living in Shirley Hundred, Charles City County, Virginia Colony. Edward Gardiner, her next husband is listed in the same muster: The Living and Dead in Virignia. Feb. 16, 1623. Att West and Shrilow hundred. JOHN HARRIS. DOROTHY HARRIS. Infans. Harris Infans. Harris ...EDWARD GARDINER. John and Dorothy were not listed in the 1624 Muster for Virginia. The Harris Hunter web site explains how the family left Shirley and returned to England for a short while before returning Virginia. Patents for Daniel Luellin written later on describe the fact that John Harris and Edward Gardiner's properties at "Shirley Hundred" were contiguous. Other neighbors included Joseph Royall's "Doghams Plantation" and Daniel Luellin's land, called "Rich Level". The daughter of the Harrises, Dorothy Baker is also mentioned. Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, Patent Book No. 2 DANIEL LUELLIN, 956 acs. Jun 4, 1645, Page 9. The Northernmost part. Beg. Above Mrs. Heymans, N. on the up. Branches of Turkey Is. Cr. S. on the head of Mr. Astons land; the Southermost part extending on Mr. Astons land & W. upon Joseph Ryalls [sic] bet. Dockham Cr. & Sherly Hundred, adj. Robert Bourne & John Harris. 100 acs. purchased of Robert Partin, the elder, granted sd Partin Feb 20 1619 & conveyed by Robert Partin the elder & Robert Partin the younger, his sonn, unto sd. Lluellin by deed dated Apr. 13, 1642. The residue by former patent for trans. of 17 pers. Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, Patent Book No. 3 CAPT. DANIEL LUELLIN, 200 acs. Lying in or neer Sherly hundred which was late in the possession of Edward Gardner, dec'd. bounding E. unto the woods, W. upon the river, N. upon 40 acs. purchased of Edward Maddin, and S. upon land lately belonging to Serjeant John Harris. Sd. land formerly granted unto sd. Luellin by order of the Quarter Court dated --- and alsoe for trans. of 4 pers. Jon. White, Goe. Middlemore, 11 July 1653. Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, Patent Book No. 3 CAPT. DANIEL LUELLIN, 636 acs. Char. City Co. 10 Mar. 1655 p. 379. 270 acs on the head of Sherly hundred, commonly known by the name Rich Levell, E. upon land of Mr. Walter Aston, & N. upon his own land; & 200 acs. in or near Shirly hundred which was in possession of Edward Gardner, dec'd., N. upon 40 acs. of land purchased of Edward Madison, & S. upon land lately belonging to Serjant John Harris; 63 acs. in Sherly hundred beg. at land of sd. Luellins, lately purchased of Robert Partin, Senr. & Robt. Partin, Junr. & sold to Mr. John Meares: 63 acs. another part being in Sherly hundred or Bermuda Hundred lately belonging to Michael Turpin; 43 acs. next to land lately belonging to Jospeh Royall, dec'd, next towards Sherly maine. 270 acs. by patent dated 26 Oct. 1650; 200 acs. by patent, 11 July 1653; 63 acs. purchased of Dorothy Baker, the relict of John Baker; 63 acres purchased of Michale Turpin; 40 acs. purchased of Edward Maddin [sic]. All of which several parcels were ordered to be included in one patent. The death date for Sergeant Harris is not reported, but patents referring to his daughter Dorothy Baker who married John Baker establish it as before 1638. These records also show that Dorothy Baker and her husband were moving across the James to an estate on the south side of the Appomattox River. (This is also the record that suggests Mrs. Dorothy Harris may have been a Cawcott.) Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, Patent Bk 1, part II. JOHN BAKER, 650 acs. Chas. City Co., 20 Nov. 1637, p. 497. 150 acs. E. upon Causons field Cr. N. upon Appamattock Riv., towards the Citty Cr. W. & S. into the maine woods; & S. up along the Citty Cr. 50 due in right of his first wife Priscilla Palmer, 50 acs. by deed of guift [sic] from his Mother in Law Jone Palmer 2 Jan 1633 & 550 acs due for his own per. adv. the per. adv. of his late wife Alice, of his wife Dorothy & for trans. of 8 person: Kath. Henborne, Michael Tibbs, Robert. Squire, Jon Clason, Anthony Lee, Jervis Dick, Hugh Baker, Alice Drewrye. Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, Patent Bk 1, part II. FRANCIS DERRICK to RICHARD JOHNSON, bill of sale for 30 acs. Oct. 14, 1638. page 668, "Whereas John Baker and Dorothy his wife, daughter of the late deceased Serjeant John Harris, have by order of Court at Henrico the 27th day of August last surrendered unto mee Capt. Francis Derrick all the right and title which they claime unto the devident of land belonging to the late deceased George Cawcott which was given to the said Dorothy by the last will and testamt. of the sd. Cawcott as by the surrender in the said court and by the pattent and will recorded at James Cittie" etc, For good and valuable causes and considerations. Witness Lawr. Hulett & John Owell. Like John Harris, no patent records remain for Edward Gardiner. This suggests that both Harris and Gardiner died before the patent process began about 1636. Only the patents of Dorothy's third husband William Clarke are available. These explain that Dorothy was once the widow of Edward Gardiner. [William Clarke was the son of the Mayflower's Master Mate. About the time of his marriage to Dorothy he had patented land in Warrasquioake (later Isle of Wight) County. This is where Dorothy's older children ended up according to the Harris Hunter web site.] The location of William Clarke's patents are across the Appomattox River from John Baker. The patents for Dorothy do not mention John Harris, only Edward Gardiner and the inheritance she received from him. But this is appropriate. She inherited only from Gardiner. Once she remarried, all Harris property would go to Sergeant John Harris' children. (If Sergeant Harris left no will, it would have gone to his oldest son.) So her patents don't mention her first husband by name. Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, Patent Bk 1, pp. 49-50 29 September 1636 - William CLARKE 1100a Henrico Co. Beginning at a little creek and lying N. thereupon, E. upon the maine River and W. into the woods. 100a to be allowed for the marshes and swamps thereunto belonging. Due in right of his now wife Dorothy GARNER, late widdowe to Edward GARNER, to whom it was due for transport of 22 persons. Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, Patent Bk 1, p. 59 10 July 1637 - William HATCHER 850a at Appamattock River. 450a upon the Swifte Creek beginning at t little Creek lying N. W. thereon, etc. 50a allowed for a small island therein with a swamp and marshes; 400a siding upon the said land. 450a due by assignment from William CLARKE and 400a for his own personal adventure and transport of 7 persons. Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, Patent Bk 1, p. 86 [a repeat of the 1636 patent?] 6 May 1638 - William CLARKE 1100a Henrico Co. Beginning at a little creek lying S. thereupon, E. up the maine river, W. into the woods, butting N. upon the Cominers. 100a to be allowed for marshes and swamps. Due in right of his now wife Dorothy GARDINER late widdowe to Edward GARNDINER, to whom it was due for transport of 22 persons. Later records show that Dorothy, outliving yet another husband but now a remaining a widow, purchased additional land in her own right. This may have resulted from the sale by her husband of the original 1100 acres. But her new property was near their original patent. long term neighbors the Worshams purchased part of the original patent but mention Dorothy still owning adjoining land.. Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, p. 117 16 July 1639 - Dorothy CLARKE, Widdow, 800a Henrico Co. Beginning at a creek formerly called Powells Creek, W. towards Sizemores Creek, S. towards the main river. 550a due by assignment from Roger DAVIS and due said DAVIS for transport of 11 persons whose names are not given and 250a by right of transport of 5 persons by her late husband William CLARKE, dec'd. Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, p. 239 15 February 1652 - William WORSNAM and George WORSNAM 400a Henrico C. 200a part hereof lying at the old Town at Appamattox River, bounding Ely. Upon said River, siding S. W. by the Old Towne Creek upon John COOGNEYS land, extending N. E. upon land of Mrs. Dorothy CLERK, widdow; and 200a being part of the old Towne aforesaid bounded from the S. by W. corner of sd. WORSNAMS firs 200a, upon the heard of the said land N. by E. thence into the woods towards Swifts Creek, etc. 200a being part of a patent granted unto Wm. CLARKE, dec'd., 6 May 1638 and by said CLARKE sold unto Seth WARD from whom it was purchased by William WORSNAM 2 November 1640 and 200a for transport of 4 persons. () Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, p. 556 6 June 1666 John WILSON 100a Henrico Co. N. side of Appomattox River. Part of 1100a purchased of William CLARKE which was granted by patent 6 May 1638 and by him sold to Leonard LAUGHTON 29 October 1638 who sold to Seath WARD 3 January 1639, as by record of said deed at James City 24 September 1640 and assignments thereon endorsed may appear and for better confirmation the Widdow Dorothy CLARKE surrendered the land to said Seath WARD at a Court held at Veriana 25 March 1640, who at a Court held at Viriana 9 November 1640 surrendered to William WORSNAM 200a being part of 300a at the Old Town Creek as by the records. Dorothy Clarke's location compared to the known plantation of Major William Clarke at the "Wares" suggests that the two people could be connected. This is what I am proposing here. According to later records and the 1679 tythable list for Henrico County, the "Wares" was close to the Clarkes. Colonial Wills of Henrico County, Virginia Part One, 1654-1737 Abstracted and Compiled by Benjamin B. Weisiger, III Will? of William Harris I settle my landed estate as follows: To son Thomas, all land below The Ware, next to John Rabon and next to Ashbrooke To younger sons William and Edward, the rest; William to have the land where I now live and Edward the land next to Ashbrooke. William's land to extend outward next to John Rahon, on Puckett's Path. My younger sons are to live with their mother until age 16 if she marries, and to age 19 if she does not. Executors: friends Mr. Thomas Cocke and Mr. William Randolph Dated April 20, 1678 Wit: Richard Lygon, Ann Stuart Recorded: February 1, 1678 Will of Thomas Harris To sister in law Core Harris, land at "The Ware" according to bounds set in my father's will To cosen Richard Lygon, all my houses wares and goods, not given by my grandfather to hands of overseers Dated Feb. 10, 1678/9 Wit: Allice Harris, Mary Lygon, Jr., Richard Lygon Recorded 2 June 1679 by oathe of Mary Lygon the younger 1679 Tythables For Henrico County [Cobbs/Powell Community] Thomas Newcomb 1 Peter Ashbrook 3 Mr. Wm Baugh 5 Tho Burton 1 Richd Lygon 1 Abrah Womecke 2 Edwd Bowman 3 Att Mrs. Skermes 3 Mr Henry Lounds 3 Mr. Wm Clerke 3 Mr Tho Poulden 4 Mr Gilbert Elam Sr 5 Mr Henry Gee 2 John Bowman 2 Tim Allen 1 Mr. Gilbert Platt 5 ___________ Mr. Richd Lygon is ordered to give notice to these. Henrico Deed Bk. 5, page 647. Aug. 1, 1696, William Harris, son of ye late Major William Harris of Henrico County, deed, unto Edward Harris and son of Major William Dec'd and younger brother of William Harris, Jr. Record Book of Henrico County, 1697&shy;1704, page 117. Sept. 27, 1698 Edward Harris of New Kent County and Mary his wife to George Alves of New Kent County 366 acres of land in Henrico on the south side of James River known by name of "Ware, " a part of 576 acres bequeathed to said Edward by his father, Major William Harris late of Henrico County, dec'd. ==== HARRIS-HUNTERS Mailing List ==== HH Archives: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl HH Site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~confido/hindex2.htm HH Data Base: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=harrishunters

Here is my explanation with records on Dorothy's history. Please let me know if there are any problems with this or misunderstandings. The first record for Dorothy in Virginia is with her first husband and two children when they were living in Shirley Hundred, Charles City County, Virginia Colony. Edward Gardiner, her next husband is listed in the same muster: The Living and Dead in Virignia. Feb. 16, 1623. Att West and Shrilow hundred. JOHN HARRIS. DOROTHY HARRIS. Infans. Harris Infans. Harris ...EDWARD GARDINER. John and Dorothy were not listed in the 1624 Muster for Virginia. The Harris Hunter web site explains how the family left Shirley and returned to England for a short while before returning Virginia. Patents for Daniel Luellin written later on describe the fact that John Harris and Edward Gardiner's properties at "Shirley Hundred" were contiguous. Other neighbors included Joseph Royall's "Doghams Plantation" and Daniel Luellin's land, called "Rich Level". The daughter of the Harrises, Dorothy Baker is also mentioned. Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, Patent Book No. 2 DANIEL LUELLIN, 956 acs. Jun 4, 1645, Page 9. The Northernmost part. Beg. Above Mrs. Heymans, N. on the up. Branches of Turkey Is. Cr. S. on the head of Mr. Astons land; the Southermost part extending on Mr. Astons land & W. upon Joseph Ryalls [sic] bet. Dockham Cr. & Sherly Hundred, adj. Robert Bourne & John Harris. 100 acs. purchased of Robert Partin, the elder, granted sd Partin Feb 20 1619 & conveyed by Robert Partin the elder & Robert Partin the younger, his sonn, unto sd. Lluellin by deed dated Apr. 13, 1642. The residue by former patent for trans. of 17 pers. Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, Patent Book No. 3 CAPT. DANIEL LUELLIN, 200 acs. Lying in or neer Sherly hundred which was late in the possession of Edward Gardner, dec'd. bounding E. unto the woods, W. upon the river, N. upon 40 acs. purchased of Edward Maddin, and S. upon land lately belonging to Serjeant John Harris. Sd. land formerly granted unto sd. Luellin by order of the Quarter Court dated --- and alsoe for trans. of 4 pers. Jon. White, Goe. Middlemore, 11 July 1653. Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, Patent Book No. 3 CAPT. DANIEL LUELLIN, 636 acs. Char. City Co. 10 Mar. 1655 p. 379. 270 acs on the head of Sherly hundred, commonly known by the name Rich Levell, E. upon land of Mr. Walter Aston, & N. upon his own land; & 200 acs. in or near Shirly hundred which was in possession of Edward Gardner, dec'd., N. upon 40 acs. of land purchased of Edward Madison, & S. upon land lately belonging to Serjant John Harris; 63 acs. in Sherly hundred beg. at land of sd. Luellins, lately purchased of Robert Partin, Senr. & Robt. Partin, Junr. & sold to Mr. John Meares: 63 acs. another part being in Sherly hundred or Bermuda Hundred lately belonging to Michael Turpin; 43 acs. next to land lately belonging to Jospeh Royall, dec'd, next towards Sherly maine. 270 acs. by patent dated 26 Oct. 1650; 200 acs. by patent, 11 July 1653; 63 acs. purchased of Dorothy Baker, the relict of John Baker; 63 acres purchased of Michale Turpin; 40 acs. purchased of Edward Maddin [sic]. All of which several parcels were! ordered to be included in one patent. The death date for Sergeant Harris is not reported, but patents referring to his daughter Dorothy Baker who married John Baker establish it as before 1638. These records also show that Dorothy Baker and her husband were moving across the James to an estate on the south side of the Appomattox River. (This is also the record that suggests Mrs. Dorothy Harris may have been a Cawcott.) Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, Patent Bk 1, part II. JOHN BAKER, 650 acs. Chas. City Co., 20 Nov. 1637, p. 497. 150 acs. E. upon Causons field Cr. N. upon Appamattock Riv., towards the Citty Cr. W. & S. into the maine woods; & S. up along the Citty Cr. 50 due in right of his first wife Priscilla Palmer, 50 acs. by deed of guift [sic] from his Mother in Law Jone Palmer 2 Jan 1633 & 550 acs due for his own per. adv. the per. adv. of his late wife Alice, of his wife Dorothy & for trans. of 8 person: Kath. Henborne, Michael Tibbs, Robert. Squire, Jon Clason, Anthony Lee, Jervis Dick, Hugh Baker, Alice Drewrye. Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, Patent Bk 1, part II. FRANCIS DERRICK to RICHARD JOHNSON, bill of sale for 30 acs. Oct. 14, 1638. page 668, "Whereas John Baker and Dorothy his wife, daughter of the late deceased Serjeant John Harris, have by order of Court at Henrico the 27th day of August last surrendered unto mee Capt. Francis Derrick all the right and title which they claime unto the devident of land belonging to the late deceased George Cawcott which was given to the said Dorothy by the last will and testamt. of the sd. Cawcott as by the surrender in the said court and by the pattent and will recorded at James Cittie" etc, For good and valuable causes and considerations. Witness Lawr. Hulett & John Owell. Like John Harris, no patent records remain for Edward Gardiner. This suggests that both Harris and Gardiner died before the patent process began about 1636. Only the patents of Dorothy's third husband William Clarke are available. These explain that Dorothy was once the widow of Edward Gardiner. [William Clarke was the son of the Mayflower's Master Mate. About the time of his marriage to Dorothy he had patented land in Warrasquioake (later Isle of Wight) County. This is where Dorothy's older children ended up according to the Harris Hunter web site.] The location of William Clarke's patents are across the Appomattox River from John Baker. The patents for Dorothy do not mention John Harris, only Edward Gardiner and the inheritance she received from him. But this is appropriate. She inherited only from Gardiner. Once she remarried, all Harris property would go to Sergeant John Harris' children. (If Sergeant Harris left no will, it would have gone to his oldest son.) So her pat! ents don't mention her first husband by name. Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, Patent Bk 1, pp. 49-50 29 September 1636 - William CLARKE 1100a Henrico Co. Beginning at a little creek and lying N. thereupon, E. upon the maine River and W. into the woods. 100a to be allowed for the marshes and swamps thereunto belonging. Due in right of his now wife Dorothy GARNER, late widdowe to Edward GARNER, to whom it was due for transport of 22 persons. Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, Patent Bk 1, p. 59 10 July 1637 - William HATCHER 850a at Appamattock River. 450a upon the Swifte Creek beginning at t little Creek lying N. W. thereon, etc. 50a allowed for a small island therein with a swamp and marshes; 400a siding upon the said land. 450a due by assignment from William CLARKE and 400a for his own personal adventure and transport of 7 persons. Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, Patent Bk 1, p. 86 [a repeat of the 1636 patent?] 6 May 1638 - William CLARKE 1100a Henrico Co. Beginning at a little creek lying S. thereupon, E. up the maine river, W. into the woods, butting N. upon the Cominers. 100a to be allowed for marshes and swamps. Due in right of his now wife Dorothy GARDINER late widdowe to Edward GARNDINER, to whom it was due for transport of 22 persons. Later records show that Dorothy, outliving yet another husband but now a remaining a widow, purchased additional land in her own right. This may have resulted from the sale by her husband of the original 1100 acres. But her new property was near their original patent. long term neighbors the Worshams purchased part of the original patent but mention Dorothy still owning adjoining land.. Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, p. 117 16 July 1639 - Dorothy CLARKE, Widdow, 800a Henrico Co. Beginning at a creek formerly called Powells Creek, W. towards Sizemores Creek, S. towards the main river. 550a due by assignment from Roger DAVIS and due said DAVIS for transport of 11 persons whose names are not given and 250a by right of transport of 5 persons by her late husband William CLARKE, dec'd. Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, p. 239 15 February 1652 - William WORSNAM and George WORSNAM 400a Henrico C. 200a part hereof lying at the old Town at Appamattox River, bounding Ely. Upon said River, siding S. W. by the Old Towne Creek upon John COOGNEYS land, extending N. E. upon land of Mrs. Dorothy CLERK, widdow; and 200a being part of the old Towne aforesaid bounded from the S. by W. corner of sd. WORSNAMS firs 200a, upon the heard of the said land N. by E. thence into the woods towards Swifts Creek, etc. 200a being part of a patent granted unto Wm. CLARKE, dec'd., 6 May 1638 and by said CLARKE sold unto Seth WARD from whom it was purchased by William WORSNAM 2 November 1640 and 200a for transport of 4 persons. () Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 1, p. 556 6 June 1666 John WILSON 100a Henrico Co. N. side of Appomattox River. Part of 1100a purchased of William CLARKE which was granted by patent 6 May 1638 and by him sold to Leonard LAUGHTON 29 October 1638 who sold to Seath WARD 3 January 1639, as by record of said deed at James City 24 September 1640 and assignments thereon endorsed may appear and for better confirmation the Widdow Dorothy CLARKE surrendered the land to said Seath WARD at a Court held at Veriana 25 March 1640, who at a Court held at Viriana 9 November 1640 surrendered to William WORSNAM 200a being part of 300a at the Old Town Creek as by the records. Dorothy Clarke's location compared to the known plantation of Major William Clarke at the "Wares" suggests that the two people could be connected. This is what I am proposing here. According to later records and the 1679 tythable list for Henrico County, the "Wares" was close to the Clarkes. Colonial Wills of Henrico County, Virginia Part One, 1654-1737 Abstracted and Compiled by Benjamin B. Weisiger, III Will? of William Harris I settle my landed estate as follows: To son Thomas, all land below The Ware, next to John Rabon and next to Ashbrooke To younger sons William and Edward, the rest; William to have the land where I now live and Edward the land next to Ashbrooke. William's land to extend outward next to John Rahon, on Puckett's Path. My younger sons are to live with their mother until age 16 if she marries, and to age 19 if she does not. Executors: friends Mr. Thomas Cocke and Mr. William Randolph Dated April 20, 1678 Wit: Richard Lygon, Ann Stuart Recorded: February 1, 1678 Will of Thomas Harris To sister in law Core Harris, land at "The Ware" according to bounds set in my father's will To cosen Richard Lygon, all my houses wares and goods, not given by my grandfather to hands of overseers Dated Feb. 10, 1678/9 Wit: Allice Harris, Mary Lygon, Jr., Richard Lygon Recorded 2 June 1679 by oathe of Mary Lygon the younger 1679 Tythables For Henrico County [Cobbs/Powell Community] Thomas Newcomb 1 Peter Ashbrook 3 Mr. Wm Baugh 5 Tho Burton 1 Richd Lygon 1 Abrah Womecke 2 Edwd Bowman 3 Att Mrs. Skermes 3 Mr Henry Lounds 3 Mr. Wm Clerke 3 Mr Tho Poulden 4 Mr Gilbert Elam Sr 5 Mr Henry Gee 2 John Bowman 2 Tim Allen 1 Mr. Gilbert Platt 5 ___________ Mr. Richd Lygon is ordered to give notice to these. Henrico Deed Bk. 5, page 647. Aug. 1, 1696, William Harris, son of ye late Major William Harris of Henrico County, deed, unto Edward Harris and son of Major William Dec'd and younger brother of William Harris, Jr. Record Book of Henrico County, 1697­1704, page 117. Sept. 27, 1698 Edward Harris of New Kent County and Mary his wife to George Alves of New Kent County 366 acres of land in Henrico on the south side of James River known by name of "Ware, " a part of 576 acres bequeathed to said Edward by his father, Major William Harris late of Henrico County, dec'd.

Do you know if Howell Harris and wife Elizabeth had any children and if so who they were? I have a Ben (Benjamin) Harris with mother Elizabeth from N.C. about that time. They lived in Cumberland co TN. Please let me know what you have on this line? Crystal Burnham

A while back, I found an extracted Civil War military record of Robert Marion Kelley, reportedly the son of Charles Kelley and Malinda Harris Kelley. The information apparently was found in a Civil War census taken about 1912. His mother, Malinda Harris Kelley, was said to be the daughter of Daniel and Sarah Harris of Jefferson County, AL. Since this is the county of my ancestors birth, I am extremely interested in researching all of the Harris families who lived in the area during this period of time. However, there just seemed to be something wrong with the aforementioned parents; i.e. Daniel and Sarah Harris. I doubt that Daniel and Sarah Harris were a couple. She was probably my ancestor and probably married to (1st) James Harris and (2nd ) to Joel Harris. I couldn't really prove my point until just recently I rediscovered several census records which make me believe that Daniel Harris was in fact married to Susan Harris who also lived in Jefferson County. 1850 - Household of Susan Harris included daughter Susan (25,) Benjamin (19) Elizabeth (16) and Thomas, 20. Also on the same page was Robert Thornton Harris and his wife Judith. His middle name was unclear. In 1860, Susan and her family were also in the census. By 1870, Susan Harris (senior) was probably deceased; the head of household was listed as Thomas, wife Sarah and siblings BF and Elizabeth. Also in the household, was Columbus Kelley. In 1880, Ben F Harris was listed as head of household including his sisters and nephew, Columbus Kelley. Given the fact that Columbus was his nephew, his mother, "Malinda" was the sister to the others and daughter of Susan Harris. Although it's still unproven, I believe that Daniel Harris was earlier married to a woman named Mary; they settled first in Mississippi Territory and by 1830 had moved back to Shelby County, AL. I have the territory census records and an early land record identifying his wife as Mary Harris. He probably had older children by his first wife, one of which may have been Allen Harris who settled in Coosa County and probably died in the Civil War. I can link Daniel with my probable ggg grandfather, Joel Harris through land records but still can't figure out their relationship. He was also linked to Benjamin Franklin Harris of Shelby County, AL., who in turn was supposedly the son of Richard W. Harris of Pitt County, NC. Right now, I am trying to figure out if I can uncover any more information with her BLM land record which states that she purchased property in Jefferson County with a Military Warrant. Unfortunately, I have not found any records identifying which war Daniel may have served. He was listed as 60 - 70 years old in the 1840 census suggesting that he probably was most likely to have served in the war of 1812. But, there is simply no evidence to substantiate that idea. Does any one have any other information about researching military warrants or early service. Does anyone know anything about RT Harris listed in the Jefferson County, AL census. I assumed that he was the individual who served in the 58th AL Infantry along with my ancestor but I may be wrong about this point. I saw something that identified his residence as Marengo County, AL., which contradicts what I believe is right. Kristina Harris

My ancestor, Azael Daniel Harris, was in Lincoln County, Tennessee in 1820 and 1840. While looking for more information concerning him (and trying to figure out what line my family is part of ) I ran across the following couples. Joel M. Harris (b. 1811, Tn.) and wife Tabitha D. _________ Thomas Howell Harris (b. 1839, ?) and wife Mary Campbell Massey Newton Harris and wife Theodosia Hampton Howell Harris (b. 1784, NC) and wife Elizabeth _________ I know that the Isle of Wight County, Virginia line uses the names Howell and Joel in several generations.Can anyone tell me if any of the above are part of the Isle of Wight County, Virginia line which descends from Thomas Harris and his wife Ann Martin Tomlin? If so, how do they descend? Is the Howell Harris and wife Elizabeth --- the couple that were married in Rockingham County, North Carolina, October 15, 1815 (Howel Harris to Elizabeth Todd)? I have read that some of the IOW Harris' were in Rockingham County, N.C. Many of the names in Lincoln County, Tennessee and surrounding counties seem to be similar to those found in the IOW line. Any insight is appreciated. Please respond through HH so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III A descendant of Claiborne "Ned" Harris through his son, Goldman, and grandson, Azael Daniel Harris.