pat, you and mitch posted on here quite some time ago that we had a new harris group 8 dna match re this stephen harris, who married mary gillison (?) in 1787 in edgefield co, sc.     i have never received from harris family tree dna that my brother david harris is a match with this stephen harris per our harris dna group 8.   is there proof that the ancestor of this william harris, who you have said was this stephen harris/ mary gillison (?), did marry some mary in edgefield co, sc?   you posted that this william harris, who was their ancestor, was the son of harrison harris/ elizabeth betts, son of stephen harris/ mary/ polly gillison of granville co, nc, son of claiborne harris/ judith.   you included the info that my arch harris/ elizabeth carter was part of this gwinnett co, ga harris line you posted.   first of all, ira says that this claiborne harris/ judith of granville co, nc was his ancestor and ira matches with those in harris dna group 6.     again, i also told you that there were two archibald harrises in gwinnett co, ga in 1830.    the archibald harris/ mary thompson, page 348, there in 1830 in gwinnett co, ga, and per the info by maud calloway hayes, is said to have been a son of benjamin harris/ karen gillson, son of claiborne harris/ judith of granville co, nc.     according to what ira posted earlier, both stephen harris' wife  mary gillison and benjamin harris' wife karen gillison were the daughters of this archibald gillison, who died in abbeville co, sc.   From: "Ira L. Harris III" < [email protected]> Subject: [HARRIS-SC] Will of Archibald Gillison, Pendleton Dist., S.C., 1792 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:33:38 -0500 (CDT) Source: Pendleton District, South Carolina Deeds, 1790-1806 Compiled by Betty Willie Conveyance Book B, pages 63-64 I, Archibald Gillison, of Abbeville Co., S. C. being low and weak in body, but of sound mind, make this my last will and testament... to beloved wife, Jean Gillison, my whole estate, both real and personal, during her widowhood.... in case of her remarriage or decease, my four childrn, Elizabeth Price, Mary Harris, James Gillison, and Karenhappoch Harris to receive 20 shillings to be raised from sale of something that can be spared from the plantation... to daughter, Ann Gillison, at wife's decease or remariage, tract of land I now live on, of 125 acres, all househould furniture, cattle, etc... John Gillison, son of my daughter, Ann Gillison, remainder of estate, sufficient for his schooling... I appoint three friends, James Nash, Stephen Harris, and Larkin Nash, executors. Date: 3 January 1792 Wit: George Nash, James Thornhill, Valentine Nash. Rec:September 2(?),1792. >From what I have been able to figure out, Mary (Gillison)Harris was the wife of Stephen Harris. Karenhappoch (Gillison) Harris was the wife of Benjamin Harris. Benjamin and Stephen were the sons of Claiborne "Ned" Harris and his wife, Judith ___________. This is part of the line that descends through Robert Harris of Ware Creek, and York County, Virginia. Robert's son, Thomas, was the father of Claiborne "Ned". Any insight or additional information concerning these Harris' or Gillison's is appreciated. Please respond through HH or H-SC so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Evansville, Indiana again, my archibald harris/ elizabeth carter was page 342 in 1830 in gwinnett co, ga.    my arch harris elizabeth carter, son of my charles harris/ jane cannon, was living near  his father-in-law,my robert carter, jr in 1830 in gwinnett co, ga.   my robert carter carter, jr, son of my robert carter, sr of laurens co, sc, stated, per a oath given for a polling registration in 1867 in paulding co, ga, that he was born in 1780 in laurens co, sc.   again, my arch harris/ elizabeth carter; my robert carter, jr/ 2nd wife, sarah mc daniel; my charles harris/ jane cannon were all on the 1834 ga state census for cobb co, ga.   as i recently also posted, this redden/ redding blocker, who was enumerated adjacent my arch/ harris/ elizabeth carter, on this 1834 state census for cobb co, ga,  was the son of michael blocker/ rosannah griffin of edgefield co, sc.   rosannah griffin blocker's father william griffin family is indicated to have traced back to this richard griffin/ mary green of halifax co, va and who was related to this anthony griffin, who was not only a legatee of peter hudson, sr, but also on this 1750 dodson survey for this land on wynn creek for william harris, sr, and william harris, jr, which became a patent in 1758 to my william harris, sr/ frances goode.   to return to edgefield co, sc, again, per the info i recently posted, michael blocker and daniel mc kie, jr were also purchasers at ellis palmer's 1800 edgefield co, sc estate sale.   ellis palmer was the brother-in-law of my simcock cannon/ jane rudd, grandparents of my jane cannon harris.    again, per laurens co, sc deeds i have posted, my charles harris/ jane cannon owned land on raborn creek in laurens co, sc adjacent lydall allen, which had involved a suit with thomas burton, who was the son of james burton, sr of lunenburg co, va and who was also a legatee of peter hudson, sr   this same land in laurens co, sc that had belonged to my charles harris/ jane cannon later belonged to lydall allen and, again, this same land re lydall allen involved a suit with daniel mc kie, sr, who was the father or definitely related to this daniel mc kie, jr in edgefield co, sc, who was also a purchaser of ellis palmer's estate sale.   daniel mc kie, sr was the son of michael mc kie, who had moved from lunenburg co, va to newberry co, sc.   again, is their proof or any info that this stephen harris re the new harris dna group 8 match did marry a mary in edgefield co, sc?   if so, it would seem to me that we need to be also looking in edgefield co, sc for this stephen harris/ mary's harris family.     belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8--------26910         Stephen Harris m potentially Mary Gillison 1787 in > Edgefield  SC is said to > have had another son besides Harrison J. Harris, and that > was  Archibald Harris >  b ca 1805 m to Elizabeth Carter.

Thank you for reminding us that the thick book--but flawed genealgieis--done by William Harris Miller of Madison Co., KY long ago--is on the internet. You say it is on Ancestry.com, about which some subscribers complain about the search engine and its clunkiness!! I thought the book was on HeritageQuest, but I had trouble remembering the LONG title of the book I have copied the HQ catalog item, and I found it by choosing from your posting the family with the most unusual name--Maupin. Up came the catalog entry. I will paste it at bottom because the formatting in the catalog is frequently lost in rootsweb. Caution: Do check out every statement which Miller gives. Too bad he did not go to the courthouse in Richmond, Kentucky and check some of the facts. The facts about the Oldham family, of which I am a descendant, is particularly flawed. Lately, I had some correspondence with a person who pointed out some flawed information about one of the marriages of a Harris male. She had good circumstantial evidence to refute the conclusion Miller had made. Nowadays, if we cannot do the research in the films or books of Madison Co., many of us could employ a genealogist who lives near the Family History Library in Salt Lake City to check the filmed records of the counties in which these folks lived--in particular, Madison co., KY. Virginia counties are a little harder to research if some of the records have been destroyed. I generally check the Family History Library catalog and do a PLACE search in the catalog to determine 1) when a county was formed and 2)whether any records have been destroyed. For Virginia, not many marriage records preceding the American Revolution still exist. These, in order to be legitimate marriages, had to take place under the auspices of the Anglican Church--which was THE OFFICIAL church of Virginia. Hope this translates from the HeritageQuest catalog entry: Miller, William Harris, History and genealogies of the families of Miller, Woods, Harris, Wallace, Maupin, Oldham, Kavanaugh, and Brown (illustrated) with interspersions of notes of the families of Dabney, Reid, Martin, Broaddus, Gentry, Jarman, Jameson, Ballard, Mullins, Michie, Moberley, Covington, Browning, Duncan, Yancey and others. Richmond KY: Miller, 1907, 859 pgs. HeritageQuest can be found at some public libraries, and some correspondents some State Libraries, such as Texas and North Carolina, also have HeritageQuest. Do some telephoning around. You may have to pay a fee to a nearby public library to obtain a valid library card, but it will be worth it to do some research in your pajamas!!! E.W.Wallace Miller, William Harris, [_View Hits_ (http://persi.heritagequestonline.com.ezproxy.lapl.org/hqoweb/library/do/books/results/fullcitation?urn=urn:proquest:U S;glhbooks;Genealogy-glh08605353;-1;-1;) ] [_View Image_ (http://persi.heritagequestonline.com.ezproxy.lapl.org/hqoweb/library/do/books/results/image?urn=u rn:proquest:US;glhbooks;Genealogy-glh08605353;-1;-1;) ] History and genealogies of the families of Miller, Woods, Harris, Wallace, Maupin, Oldham, Kavanaugh, and Brown (illustrated) : with interspersions of notes of the families of Dabney, Reid, Martin, Broaddus, Gentry, Jarman, Jameson, Ballard, Mullins, Michie, Moberley, Covington, Browning, Duncan, Yancey and others Richmond, Ky.: Miller, 1907, 859 pgs. **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

same-----was and/ or how was this lewis atkins in edgecombe co, nc related to the lewis atkins of hanover co, va? Belva, most likely those in NC were from the 4 Atkins' brothers who migrated from Prince Edward Co. VA to NC ca 1777 & they were affiliated back in P.E. Co. VA with Davison's, Mumford DeJarnette, Baldwin's & an early marriage to an Estes. Micajah Harris of P.E. Co. had a son, Thompson Harrris m Franky Davison 1780 in Charlotte Co. VA, they then went to Anson Co. NC abt 1781/82, then to Montgomery Co. NC. I was sent a large Atkins worksheet/timeline & they (Atkins) start out in King & Queen Co. VA then to Amelia Co. which later fell into Prince Edward Co....then they left ca 1777 for NC. As yet, I don't believe the P.E. Co. group has been linked to the Lewis Atkins of Hanover Co. or to the Atkins of Orange Co. VA but one would think there's some kind of connection between these groups due to location/timing & name affiliations. I would say there's more likely a link with Lewis Atkins of Hanover Co. with my Orange Co. Harris line...John Atkins & Susannah Brockman had eldest child Franky/Frances Atkins b 1754/55 & I believe she married my Lindsay Harris of Orange Co. VA...certainly many of Lindsay & Frances children bear some Atkins names of Hezekiah, Brockman, Susannah. In 1737 Partridge Accounts, Hanover Co., Lewis Atkins purchased 2 boys hats, a clue to possible sons but who these sons were is unknown, at least to me. Partridge - p. 85 Mr. Lewis Atkins. Jul. 20, 1736 (2 Psalters @ 1/6, 2 qr paper @ 1/6, 1 testament 0.2.6.); Oct. 9 (pd Mary Harris); Nov. 6, 15; Dec. 23; May 13; Jun. 15 (2 boys hatts, 1 youths Do., 1 Reap Sickle, 6 doz. pipes); Jul. 28. Credits: May 14, 1737 (1 Hhd. Tobo., carried to D p. 3). There were some marriages in Orange Co. VA of the daughters of Lindsay Harris (after his death in 1802) that had Atkins names as guardian, bondsman, etc., i.e., Joseph Atkins & Hezekiah Atkins plus I found the below marriage record which has Lewis Harris in 1808 as surety for Patsy Atkins. So, it would not surprise me to find that my Harris line, while in Hanover Co. in 1734, had close ties to the Lewis Atkins family there. Orange Co. VA Marriages 1747-1810 by Knorr p58, 3 Dec 1808 William Martin & Patsy Atkins. Sur. Lewis Harris makes oath Patsy is over 21. p 74 Louisa Co. VA Marriages - 25 Feb 1809. Lewis HARRIS and Lucy Martin. William Martin makes affadavit that Lucy is of age. Sur. David Gray. p 134 Carol, descendant of Thomas Harris line from Hanover Co. VA Thomas Harris Sr., Hanover Co. VA Thomas Harris Jr./wife Sabra d 1782 Orange Co. VA, lived prior in Louisa Co. VA Lindsay Harris/wife Frances Atkins d 1802/03 Orange Co. VA David H. Harris/wife Margaret Peters b 1786 Orange Co. d 1847 Versailles, KY David D. Harris/wife Mary Fletcher b 1831 Versailles, KY d 1916 Mound City, IL David D. Harris Jr./wife Ellen Jones b 1862 Jackson Co. MO, d 1949 Mounds, IL DNA Group 8 ----------------------------- On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 06:57:03 -0700 (PDT) belva cauthen <[email protected]> writes: again, as shown, per this edgecombe co, nc deed, lewis atkins; > reuben ross; and samuel saxon, jr witnessed the deed re samuel > saxon, sr to george pace. > > i have renoted that carol asked if the atkins family associated with > her thomas harris in orange co, va were related to the lewis atkins > of hanover co, va? > > same-----was and/ or how was this lewis atkins in edgecombe co, nc > related to the lewis atkins of hanover co, va? > > by the way, am i the only person having problems with the rootsweb > mailing list site? > > here is carol's post which can be found on the atkins forum no. > 2267: > > Seeking info on Lewis Atkins in the following deeds. Was he a part > of the Orange Co., Va Atkins clan? > > > Hanover Co. Va Court Records 1733-1735, Deeds, Wills and > Inventories, by Rosalie E. Davis > > p 26 Indent (blank) day of June 1734 Lancelot Armstrong of St. > Martins Par., Hanover Co., to LEWIS ATKINS of afsd. par. and Co.; > Lease and Release; L21; 300a on both sides the north fork of Long > Creek and the south fork of Rocky Run in afsd. Par. and > Co...begining at Jeremiah Dumass corner. Lancy Armstrong > Wit: Thomas Harris, John (X) Hicks > 7 June 1734 ack. by Lancelot Armstrong. Also Sarah his wife > relinquished her right of Dower. > > p 38 Indent. 4 Sept 1734 Lewis Atkins of St. Martins Par., Hanover > Co., to Matthew Pate of St. Pauls Par., Lease and Release; L22 curr > money; 319a on both sides of the North fork of Long Creek the south > fork of Rocky in the Par. of (blank), Hanover Co....begining at > Jeremiah Dumas corner. Lewis Atkins > Wit: Adam Chisholme, Thomas Turner 7 Nov 1734 ac. by Lewis Atkins > > > i have also found from the hanover co, va small book and > republished in the william and mary quarterly that the land > charles yancey sold to his son archelaus yancey was adjacent samuel > saxon and edward garland. > > 61 WILLIAM AND MARY QUARTERLY > > Mar. 31, 1733. Jas X Montray St. Martin's to James > Sims. > June 14, 1735.-Chas Chiswell, gent., St. Martin?s, > John Chiswell > > July 3. 1735.-Charles Yancey, St. Martin, to son Archelaus Yancey > horse-pen adj: Edw Garland Saml Saxon, > > also re these hanover co, va patents, abraham cook, jr's 1722 patent > was near edward garland and john harris. > > per the hanover co, va patents, abraham cook, jr had a patent in > 1722 for 400 acres on a ridge between the north anna and little > rivers near john harris, edward garland, john perkins, and james > sutor. > > > > then, in 1723, william harris also had a patent near abraham cook, > jr and in 1728, also robert harris, and, again, all in the vicinity > of abraham cook, jr; john harris; and this edward garland. > > > in 1728, robert harris is also shown to have had 400 acres between > the north anna and little rivers also adjacent cook's lines. > > again, this was the same abraham cook, jr, who also moved to > brunswick/ lunenburg co, va and who died there in lunenburg co, va > in1748. > > again, abraham cook, jr's 1748 lunenburg co, va will was witnessed > by richard palmer and thomas satterwhite. > > again, this was the same richard palmer, who was involved with our > david harris/ jane landy richardson and our harris family on cubb > creek in louisa co, va and who also witnessed lunenburg co, va deeds > re both my william harris, sr/ frances goode and william harris/ > judith hudson. > > > here, again, is the edgecombe co, nc deed re samuel saxon to george > pace, which was witnessed by lewis atkins; reuben ross; and samuel > saxon, jr. > > Abstracts of Deeds, Edgecombe Precinct, Edgecombe County, North > Carolina, 1732 through 1758, by > Margaret M. Hofmann, > p. 234 (Deed Book 6): > pg. 225. Samuel Saxon of Edge. Co, to George Pace > of Edge. Co, 24 Feb. 1757 10 pounds Va. money 200 acres on the > south side of Elk marsh, joining the great prong of Cades branch > Wit: Lewis Atkins, > RUBEN ROSS his mark, Samuel Saxon, Jr. (?) Reg. > Edge. Co. Nov. Ct. 1757 J. Montfort C. Ct. > > to be continued: > > belva harris cauthen > harris dna group 8--------26910 ____________________________________________________________ Click to make millions by owning your own franchise. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3m6iR3hyEcr0N9ul73wYsV2bhLWDrdzSVF6qXIpwmofsZmMG/

Goochland County Virginia Marriage Bonds & Minister Returns 1816-1854, compiled & indexed by Thomas P. Hughes Jr. and Jewel B. Standefer, 1972 p 2 Alvis, William - Mary Harris M.B. January 7, 1834 Sec: Thomas F. Johnson John Harris, Sr., father of Mary p 5 Badgett, Pouncey - Nancy Alvis M.B. September 3, 1822, M September 5, 1822 Min: Lewis Chaudoin Sec: John Ryan Wit: Mary Alvist Elisha Alvis, father of Nancy p 15 Cary, Henry - Sophia Harris M.B. August 10, 1849 Sec: Hiram James p 20 Cockrum, Thomas - Mary R. Harris M.B. December 30, 1835 Sec: Peter Harris Each is 21 yrs of age p 22 Cosby, Jefferson - Nancy Harris M.B. October 26, 1840 Sec: John C. Johnson Wit: John Harris, Jr. Richard Harris, father of Nancy Cosby, John C. - Caroline V. Harris M.B. June 15, 1844 Sec: James Wilson John Harris, Jr. consents for Caroline NRS p 28 Drainard, John W. - Frances Harris Min. Ret: August 16, 1849 Min: Robert Scott p 34 Ford, Macon - Elizabeth C. Harris M.B. August 2, 1817 Sec: Sam Cary Wit: Humble Harris Francis Harris, father of Elizabeth p 38 Glenn, John F. - Betsey Ann Harris M.B. February 3, 1823 Sec: Thompson W. Pulliam Tyre Harris, father of Betsey Ann Glenn, William - Harriot Harvey Harris M.B. February 10, 1823 Sec: Thompson W. Pulliam Wit: Thomas B. Woodson Tyree Harris, father of Harriot p 44 Henley, Hezekiah - Lucy J. Harris Min. Ret: January 19, 1851 Min. A. B. Smith p 49 Houchins, Walter J. - Lucy C. Harris M.B. December 17, 1821, M December 25, 1821 Min: Lewis Chaudoin Sec: John Lewis p 56 Kenney, William - Jane Harris M.B. June 29, 1835 William 21 yrs of age Sec: Stephen Harris 21 yrs of age p 71 Moss, Nathaniel - Sarah Anne Snelson M.B. July 12, 1841, M July 15, 1841 Min: Samuel HARRIS Sec: Dudley A. Gibson Wit: James Ragland John O. Moss consents for Nathaniel NRS John Snelson, father of Sarah Anne Nathaniel 21 yrs of age p 82 Pleasants, Robert W. - Mary P. Harris M.B. August 1, 1820 Sec: Jmes Madison Pleasants Wit: Benjamin Anderson p 92 Shelton, Nelson F. - Polly S. Harris M.B. September 4, 1834, M September 4, 1834 Min: James Wharey Sec: G. W. Harris Shelton, George P. - Kitty C. Dabney M.B. February 24, 1835 Sec: John W. Jackson John Shelton, father of George P. Catherine W. Dabney, mother of Kitty C. Henry Dabney, father of Kitty has been absent from the county seven yrs. and is presumed dead according to affidavit of M. B. HARRIS p 93 Siddons, William H. - Catharine A. Harris M.B. March 24, 1840 Sec: Archibald F. Thomas Wit: John W. Loyall William O. Harris, father of Catharine A. p 101 Toler, William B. L. - Louisa F. Harris M.B. February 27, 1844, M February 28, 1844 Min: William J. Winston Sec: Carr Fleming Wit: William D. Perkins John F. Harris, father of Louisa F. Louisa F. of age p 105 Waddy, William - Patsey Harris M.B. June 23, 1817 Sec: Abner Burnley N. Harris, father of Patsey p 110 Wilkinson, Thomas D. - Lucy A.E. Harris M.B. November 17, 1842, M November 17, 1842 Min: Eli Ball Sec: Richard W. Harris John Harris, Jr. consents for Lucy NRS ____________________________________________________________ Click here to compare top medical billing products, get demos, and quotes. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oiDnmWXOOZPtCGUF1aLxgIcdIuWyS1jtNti9Tm9qGlIUnmO/

Goochland County Virginia Marriage Bonds & Minister Returns 1816-1854, compiled & indexed by Thomas P. Hughes Jr. and Jewel B. Standefer, 1972 Grooms: page 43 Harris, Abner T. - Mary E. Clements Min. Ret: September 3, 1850 Min: Joseph Rock Harris, Benjamin - Eliza P. Ware M.B. September 29, 1817, M October 16, 1817 Min.: Lewis Chaudoin Sec.: Nicholas Ware James Ware, father of Eliza P. Wit: Martha M. Ware Harris, Frederick M. - Julia Clements Min. Ret: June 16, 1851 Min. Joseph Rock Harris, George W. - Martha M. Anderson M.B. August 30, 1832, M August 31, 1833 [must had to wait a year?] Min: George Mahood Sec: William M. Anderson Harris, Jesse R. - Elizabeth St. Clair M.B. April 17, 1843 Sec: Charles H. Johnson William St. Clair, father of Elizabeth Elizabeth 21 yrs of age Harris, John - Lucy R. Redd M.B. January 20, 1817 Sec: William Gill Harris, John - Elizabeth Puryear M.B. November 20, 1827, M November 21, 1827 Min: Matthew W. Webber Sec: Robert Farrar Ellis Puryear consents for Elizabeth NRS Min. says John Harris, Sr. Harris, John A. - Mary W. Ryan M.B. December 13, 1818 Sec: James Ryan Wit: William O. Harris Harris, Joseph P. - Anna Willis M.B. December 30, 1833 Sec: Thomas P. Martin Anna 21 yrs of age Harris, Peter - Nancy Shelton M.B. February 16, 1828 Sec: Joseph Shelton Parks Harris, father of Peter Nancy 21 yrs of age Joseph Shelton gives affidavit as to Nancy's age NRS Harris, Samuel W. - Sarah M. Ware M.B. November 12, 1816, M December 5, 1816 Min: Lewis Chaudoin Sec: Robert Ware, Martha M. Ware James Ware, father of Sarah M. Harris, William Overton - Sarah Badget M.B. March 21, 1817 Sec: Belden Badget William 21 yrs of age ____________________________________________________________ Free information on the best online trading options. Click here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mJ8YCabfi4rSEi1Iuv61kHlQ7qPyR0qbZm1nyaSj75DMhyO/

Another interesting item that Virginia DOT has is the History of Roads in Virginia. It provides a good background of how the road orders came about. _http://www.virginiadot.org/about/resources/historyofrds.pdf_ (http://www.virginiadot.org/about/resources/historyofrds.pdf) Connie Bradshaw **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

I took a gander at the link provided for the Virginia DOT report on Albermarle County and the indexes start on page 242 with HARRIS entries on page 261. What I found exciting was that after the name index, the report has indexes for mills, rivers, roads, mountains, etc. Thanks again [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) for posting wonderful resources! Connie Bradshaw **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Thanks for the response to my bit about road orders and petitions but I wasn't the one who posted the map of Granville Co. Barbara M On Aug 4, 2008, at 11:41 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Barbara M. wrote in response my thanking her for her posting on > the internet > an early map of Granville Co., NC, which also had some residents named > Harris--and a lot of other common names. > > Another very helpful source , if available, are the Petitions for > Roads submitted by residents to the county governments.. When these > were circulated around for signatures, most every male head of > household in the general area seems to have signed-- even with an > X. . They give a great list of the people living in one specific > area. I have found this especially helpful in mid-western states > where counties have been split up and then split again. I use these > petition records (where available) along with land records and old > maps. Good substitute where there are no watercourses of importance. > Barbara Metzger > > Dear Barbara--and interested others - > > Thanks for jogging my memory. > > Lately the Dept. of Transportation in Virginia has published some road > orders of various counties. In fact, some of their publications > are on the > internet, and, not long ago, there was a notice about a FREE CD > from VA DOT of > these published road orders. > > Unfortunately, for some of my Virginia folks--who went thataway-- > some of > these Virginia road orders are too late -- dates.after my folks > had started > their migrations westward--mainly to Kentucky. > > _http://www.virginiadot.org/VTRC/main/online_reports/pdf/76-r27.pdf_ > (http://www.virginiadot.org/VTRC/main/online_reports/pdf/76-r27.pdf) > > The first booklet is about Albemarle Co., but there are 335 pages > altogether, and currently I do not have time to explore what comes > after Albemarle Co. > > In court records of other States/Colonies, however, I do find road > orders. > And in some early Virginia vestry books, those that survive, the > processioning records group neighbors together, which is quite > helpful. > > Thanks, again, Barbara. > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your > budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review? > ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The reason I am posting this again is also to find out the parents of Elizabeth Harris who married John Hudson whose will is in 1734 in Hanover Co., VA. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Many Ragland researchers claim Stephen Ragland (my 7th great grandfather), son of Evan Ragland, Sr. and Susanna Pettus from New Kent Co., Va married Mary Hudson who is the daughter of John Hudson and Elizabeth Harris. Some say Elizabeth Harris is the daughter of William Harris and Temperance Overton and others say William Harris and Mary Giles. On Rootsweb many claim Elizabeth Harris who was married to John Hudson who left his will in 1734 in Hanover Co,, Va with securities as Wm. Harris and Daniel Patrick . My query is : My Stephen Ragland line has for years claimed Mary Hudson married him and he is the son of Evan Ragland, Sr and Susanna Pettus. He was born 1688 in St. Paul's Parish in New Kent Co., Va. In 1711 he is recorded as a freeholder with 200 acres of land described as upper part of Chikahominy River. John Ragland was a neighbor. He was in NC by 1730 in Bertie Precinct which became Northampton Co., NC. He was described as being from Hanover County, Va. Stephen Ragland died in 1747 in Northampton Co, Va and names wife Mary. On top of that another group says Mary Hudson married a Samuel Bunch of Hanover Co., Va and were Quakers and were disowned from the Cedar Creek Monthly Meeting Quakers in Hanover Co., Va. Samuel bunch left a will and it was proved 9 Jan 1783 in Hanover Co., Va. The Hudson group says Mary Hudson married a man by the last name of Thomas with no other information. So, as one can see this is a mess and needs some records to prove what is the truth to all of this. If anyone can shed some light on this it certainly would be appreciated. I am trying to determine if Mary Hudson is my 7th great grandmother or not. It seems to me if these three groups claim Mary Hudson there has to be some records somewhere that will prove it one way or the other. But Mary Hudson is definitely the daughter of John Hudson who died 1734 in Hanover Co., Va and his wife Elizabeth Harris. William Harris and Daniel Patrick was his securities. Best regards and thanks for any help anyone can give me. Marianne Dillow

Barbara M. wrote in response my thanking her for her posting on the internet an early map of Granville Co., NC, which also had some residents named Harris--and a lot of other common names. Another very helpful source , if available, are the Petitions for Roads submitted by residents to the county governments.. When these were circulated around for signatures, most every male head of household in the general area seems to have signed-- even with an X. . They give a great list of the people living in one specific area. I have found this especially helpful in mid-western states where counties have been split up and then split again. I use these petition records (where available) along with land records and old maps. Good substitute where there are no watercourses of importance. Barbara Metzger Dear Barbara--and interested others - Thanks for jogging my memory. Lately the Dept. of Transportation in Virginia has published some road orders of various counties. In fact, some of their publications are on the internet, and, not long ago, there was a notice about a FREE CD from VA DOT of these published road orders. Unfortunately, for some of my Virginia folks--who went thataway--some of these Virginia road orders are too late -- dates.after my folks had started their migrations westward--mainly to Kentucky. _http://www.virginiadot.org/VTRC/main/online_reports/pdf/76-r27.pdf_ (http://www.virginiadot.org/VTRC/main/online_reports/pdf/76-r27.pdf) The first booklet is about Albemarle Co., but there are 335 pages altogether, and currently I do not have time to explore what comes after Albemarle Co. In court records of other States/Colonies, however, I do find road orders. And in some early Virginia vestry books, those that survive, the processioning records group neighbors together, which is quite helpful. Thanks, again, Barbara. **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Another very helpful source , if available, are the Petitions for Roads submitted by residents to the county governments.. When these were circulated around for signatures, most every male head of household in the general area seems to have signed-- even with an X. . They give a great list of the people living in one specific area. I have found this especially helpful in mid-western states where counties have been split up and then split again. I use these petition records (where available) along with land records and old maps. Good substitute where there are no watercourses of importance. Barbara Metzger On Aug 2, 2008, at 10:58 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Dear Mary Harris, > > Thanks for posting the URL for the map of early Granville Co., NC > and its > tax districts. > > I long ago acquired a *hard copy* map of Granville Co. while > staying in > Oxford NC to do some research and to get a feel for the lay of the > land. But it > is handy to have one on the internet. > > While trying to sort out some families of the same common surname [not > Harris, but worse!!!], I noted on which watercourse each family > lived. I think > this technique--discovering the watercourse--is largely overlooked by > genealogists. > > I am constantly referring to whatever maps I have--sometimes the > older the > better!. Sometimes the online maps of the Geographic Names, etc. > are not > helpful. For example, Nut Bush Creek is now a part of Kerr > Reservoir, I > discovered!!! So old maps are most useful to genealogists. > > > I had a hard lesson from a DAR staff genealogist: IShe said: 1) > Determine > who the associates of the family are, in other words, their > neighbors and > the bondsmen for various bonds > > and 2) determine the watercourse on which the family lived. > > These techniques are MOST important when one has a common surname > in one's > ancestry--and I seem to have more than my fair share!!! > > I think we modern folk, used to paved roads and interstate highways, > overlook the fact that roads in colonial days were nearly non- > existent in most > colonies. If one reads the accounts of some adventurous persons, > you learn the > difficulty in crossing on horseback water streams, getting lost in > the woods, > having unfriendly natives, etc. The Virginia land patents refer > occasionally > to *paths*, no doubt made by animals and by native Americans. But > these > references are few and far between. > > Another example of disappearing geographic areas: One of my Kentucky > ancestors paid taxes in the 1830s on Island No. 2 in the > Mississippi River. > Current day maps do not show such an island. However, the > Kentucky Historical > Society had a map which did show Island No. 2, and in fact, I > believe I obtained > a similar map from the Land Office in Kentucky. A correspondent > told me that > frequently these islands in the river attach themselves to the > mainland, and > then states along the Mississippi, for example, dispute who owns > the land!!!! > > Thanks again. > > E.W.Wallace > > > E.W.Wallace > > > > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your > budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review? > ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some Harris surnames, from various Virginia counties, for various times, appear in the Edward Pleasants Valentine Papers. The three volumes are online at these websites: HeritageQuest [available at some public libraries and I am told at some State Libraries] Also, Ancestry.com also has the images. The search engine is pretty good, but I have not yet mastered how to see the whole page. The name Harris is overlined [yellow bit is on top of the surname Harris.] Because my eyesight is not so good, I think I will try the version on HeritageQuest, but with Ancestry.com you can *share*--that is, I send an e-mail to myself for further study. There is a chapter on the Dabney family for those of you have reason to believe that you have a Dabney ancestress--first wife of Christopher Harris of Louisa and Albemarle Cos., VA and later of Madison Co., KY. Happy hunting!! By the way, before you jump to any conclusions, be sure to note the DATE and the PLACE of each abstracted entry. Timelines are great for straightening out some ancestors' activities. If there is a gap of ten years, you have more research to do!! E.W.Wallace always hunting--and hoping for the best conclusion! **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Fran, The only wills for William's in Cumberland were in 1753 and 1755. That would be when he was a baby. There is no listing for Buckingham at all. Buckingham was formed in 1761 from Albemarle. There is one Wm there in 1788. Maybe someone on this site can give you some insite into this family. Eleanor Homewood This is the orignal message: Eleanor, so nice of you to take the time to do this. Is there a Will for a William Harris, born in 1750s, I think in the Buckingham/Cumberland area, married to a Lurita/Lou Rita Harris (maiden name) with children Nancy, William C., John, Anderson, Lucy, Richard and Samuel Harris. Thank you so much. Fran Harris Hill Richmond, VA ----- Original Message ----- From: F.Hill To: Eleanor Homewood Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:43 AM Subject: Harris Wills Eleanor, so nice of you to take the time to do this. Is there a Will for a William Harris, born in 1750s, I think in the Buckingham/Cumberland area, married to a Lurita/Lou Rita Harris (maiden name) with children Nancy, William C., John, Anderson, Lucy, Richard and Samuel Harris. Thank you so much. Fran Harris Hill Richmond, VA --- On Sun, 7/27/08, Eleanor Homewood <[email protected]> wrote: From: Eleanor Homewood <[email protected]> Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Harris Wills To: "Harris-Hunters" <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 5:21 PM I have the book "Virginia Wills and Adminstrations 1632-1800. I was going to post the Harris's, but there are 4 columns of about 60 names per column, so I think it would be better if I volunteer to do lookups. Eleanor Homewood [email protected] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM

Dear Mary Harris, Thanks for posting the URL for the map of early Granville Co., NC and its tax districts. I long ago acquired a *hard copy* map of Granville Co. while staying in Oxford NC to do some research and to get a feel for the lay of the land. But it is handy to have one on the internet. While trying to sort out some families of the same common surname [not Harris, but worse!!!], I noted on which watercourse each family lived. I think this technique--discovering the watercourse--is largely overlooked by genealogists. I am constantly referring to whatever maps I have--sometimes the older the better!. Sometimes the online maps of the Geographic Names, etc. are not helpful. For example, Nut Bush Creek is now a part of Kerr Reservoir, I discovered!!! So old maps are most useful to genealogists. I had a hard lesson from a DAR staff genealogist: IShe said: 1) Determine who the associates of the family are, in other words, their neighbors and the bondsmen for various bonds and 2) determine the watercourse on which the family lived. These techniques are MOST important when one has a common surname in one's ancestry--and I seem to have more than my fair share!!! I think we modern folk, used to paved roads and interstate highways, overlook the fact that roads in colonial days were nearly non-existent in most colonies. If one reads the accounts of some adventurous persons, you learn the difficulty in crossing on horseback water streams, getting lost in the woods, having unfriendly natives, etc. The Virginia land patents refer occasionally to *paths*, no doubt made by animals and by native Americans. But these references are few and far between. Another example of disappearing geographic areas: One of my Kentucky ancestors paid taxes in the 1830s on Island No. 2 in the Mississippi River. Current day maps do not show such an island. However, the Kentucky Historical Society had a map which did show Island No. 2, and in fact, I believe I obtained a similar map from the Land Office in Kentucky. A correspondent told me that frequently these islands in the river attach themselves to the mainland, and then states along the Mississippi, for example, dispute who owns the land!!!! Thanks again. E.W.Wallace E.W.Wallace **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

correction: re my george allen/ fanny bullock, daughter of my nathaniel bullock/ mary hawkins.   my george allen died in 1803 in oglethorpe co, ga---------not va.     again, to be continued:     belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8--------26910

again, this same wilkins family re richard wilkins involved with christopher harris in granville co, nc was the same richard wilkins/ rebecca twitty, who had also been in lunenburg/ mecklenburg co, va and, again, not only was this the same wilkins family also involved with my william harris, sr/ frances goode and william harris/ judith hudson but by marriage, this was the same/ related twitty family re my mary wynne wyatt twitty.   this was my william harris, sr/ frances goode, who in 1746 in lunenburg co, va had the agreement with william marable re the plantation, finneywood.     again, a suit followed re my william harris, sr/ frances goode with william marable and my mackerness goode, sr in his deposition mentions that a wilkins had been the prior overseer for william marable.   MACKERNESS GOODE   The Deponent in ye other side further Saith that according to ye Plaintiff's desire in the year  45/6  he see measured & lofted (?) on ye said Plaintif Plantation Eighteen barrells of Indian Corn or there abouts, that was a crop of the lat Overseer Wilkins & this Deponent further saith that ye Defendant soon after mov’d to ye said house with his Wife and four Negroes, further Saith not.   also, thomas wilkins witnessed this deed re william harris/ judith hudson.   lunenburg co, va deed book 4, page 303, 1756, william harris of lunenburg co, va to david halliburton of same for 30 pds, 168 acres on the lower side of the little bluestone creek bounded by william harris' upper lines. signed william harris. witnesses:  richard palmer; william hunt;  thomas wilkins.  judith, wife of william harris, relinquished her right of dower. again, this richard palmer, who also witnessed this deed re william harris/ judith hudson and who had also witnessed a lunenburg/ mecklenburg co, va deed re my william harris, sr/ frances goode, was also involved with our david harris/ jane landy richardson and our harris family on cubb creek in louisa co, va per info i have posted in the past.   these connections re richard palmer are a lot more involved also period.  i will not go into or repeat all of this again, but richard palmer and thomas satterwhite also witnessed abraham cook, jr's 1748 lunenburg co, va will.   per info i also recently cited, this is indicated to have been our captain thomas harris' family, who had patents near abraham cook, jr there also in hanover co, va.   this was the same satterwhite family also of lunenburg co, va involved with the families there in granville co, nc and also the same satterwhite family, who also moved to laurens/ newberry cos, sc.   in fact, joseph davenport, again, with connections also with the lunenburg co, va families, was the father-in-law of our samuel goode, also son of my mackerness goode, sr and also of bartlett satterwhite.   joseph davenport moved from granville co, nc to newberry co, sc where he died there in 1791 naming in his will our samuel goode and bartlett satterwhite as his son-in-laws.       also re the  ca 1770 laurens co, sc grants i have posted in the past re my harris; goode; and cargills, joseph davenport paid the tax/ memorial re my mackerness goode, sr's 100 acre grant, which, again, per a laurens co, sc deed also cited previously, became the property of our samuel goode.   memorial by mackerness goode, sr, in berkley co on waters of little river....certified 6 feb 1771 and granted 12 april 1771; quit rent to commence in 2 years.  signed 13 may 1771 by joseph davenport, delivered 7 oct 1773.  john caldwell,  d.s.    laurens co, sc deed book C, page 193, 1789, samuel goode, gentleman, to richard shackleford, pastor of the baptist chuch, for 100 pds, 100 acres on the little river, original grant 4/ 12/ 1771 to mackerness goode, sr, who died intestate and samuel goode, his heir at law. witnesses:  joseph cox; francis brooks; alexander stewart.  silvanus walker, j.p.   info on joseph davenport can be found on line and i am going to quote from that site:   17 may 1791: probate of the estate of joseph davenport late of newberry co, sc by warrant of appraisement filed by starling dixon; robert gilliam; and alexander mckie. ( newberry co, sc estates, box 355, pkg, 38 )   5 august 1788 probate last will of joseph davenport probated 16 may 1791:  named daughter rebecca davenport to have 200 acres where she lives......jemimah satterwhite, daughter of bartlett satterwhite and rebecca satterwhite to have negro girl, annakey;  granddaughters: edna goode and jemimah goode, daughters of samuel goode and jemimah goode, to have negroes, dina and silva when jemimah goode reaches the age of 16........( newberry co, sc wills A: 112 )   again, joseph davenport moved from granville co, nc but the following lunenburg co, va deed shows that joseph davenport also had connections to lunenburg co, va and to the mitchell family, etc, there.     lunenburg co, va deed book 5, page 353, 1759, michael satterwhite and wife, amey, of granville co, nc to edmund taylor of lunenburg for 850 pds, 1, 397 acres in lunenburg on roanoke river bounded by james lewis; james mitchell; james robinson.  witnesses:  david mitchell; joseph davenport; reuben morse.   also this lunenburg co, va deed connects joseph davenport; edmund taylor; james mitchell with john robinson, sr and jr:   lunenburg co, va deed book 5, page 231, 1758, john robinson, the elder, and wife, mary, and john robinson, jr, wife, elizabeth, of lunenburg co, va to james lewis of albemarle co, va for 640 pds, two tracts in lunenburg co, va of about 470 acres, that 1st tract bounded by thomas estlash (?) on the north side of the roanoke river; the other tract bounded by the south side of the river, gillian; captain james mitchell, both tracts containing 476 acres.  signed:  john robinson, mary, her mark, robinson; john robinson, jr; elizabeth, her mark, robinson.  witnesses:  james mitchell; edmund taylor; joseph davenport.   lunenburg co, va deed book 5, page 372, 1759, james mitchell of granville co, nc to edmund taylor of lunenburg co, va for 150 pds, 829 acres in lunenburg in two different tracts:  the 1st tract is bounded by michael satterwhite; nat robinson; 404 acres;  2nd tract is bounded by where robinson's line crosses the old mill creek, the county line, buzbee, new lines, old line.  signed:  david mitchell; joseph davenport, michael satterwhite.   to be continued:   belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8--------26910    

i have been trying to find time to also respond to ira re the harris and wilkins families per the granville co, nc deed he posted re christopher harris to richard wilkins but i am, again, very busy here today and for the past several days.   granville co, nc is below and adjacent to lunenburg/ mecklenburg co, va and although i have not focused on granville co, nc as i have lunenburg/ mecklenburg co, va, i am aware that these were the same and related families also there and/ or connections re the granville co, nc families with the lunenburg/ mecklenburg co, va families.   this is true i know of this wilkins family and, in fact, this same wilkins family was involved with both my william harris, sr/ frances goode and william harris/ judith hudson there in lunenburg co, va.   meanwhile, these connections are also more involved for me period but, so far, this still does not tell me if this harris family in granville co, nc were also related to my william harris, sr/ frances goode and/ or william harris/ judith hudson in lunenburg/ mecklenburg co, va.   this john hawkins in this deed re christopher harris to richard wilkins is likely my ancestor john hawkins.    john hawkins/ mary wyatt were the parents of mary hawkins, who married my nathaniel bullock and who were the parents of my fanny bullock allen, wife of my george allen, who died in 1803 in oglethorpe co, va.    george allen/ fanny bullock were the great- grandparents of my great-grandmother  amanda allen harris, wife of my great-grandfather martin alonzo harris of paulding co, ga and who died in 1935 in atlanta, ga.   again, these connections are still more involved.  my mary wyatt hawkins, wife of my john hawkins, was the daughter of henry wyatt/ mary wynne, who re-married thomas twitty and this was also the same twitty family, who also inter-married with this same wilkins family.     Granville Co, NC DEED BOOK O 5-(4). Christopher Harris of Granville County, NC to Richard Wilkins  of same County, 1 March 1779, for 150 pounds current money of North  Carolina, one certain track or parcel of land on the branches of Mill  Creek containing 15 acres; Beginning at a Hicory on John Hawkins line  that piece of land that was Sherwood Harris, thence a South line to a  large path that goes from Henry Straton's to Hawkins Mill, thence up  the said path a Northwest course along a new built line that's on  both sides of the said path to Hawkins line on a Hickory, thence East  line to the beginning. Christopher Harris. Witness: Sherwood Harris, Robert Harris Junior, Darvin Harris.  Granville County November Court 1779. Christopher Harris acknowledged this deed to be his act & deed which  was ordered to be Registered. Reuben Searcy CC.   Truly Registered Pr  M. Satterwhite PR. here is info on this same wilkins family and mecklenburg co, va deed, also, to follow shows that this was the same richard wilkins/ rebecca twitty, who had been in mecklenburg co, va and who had moved to granville co, nc.   again, all of this is more involved period.   this is info on the wilkins family, which can be found on line, and this was the same wilkins family in granville co, nc, who had also been involved with my william harris, sr/ frances goode and william harris/ judith hudson in lunenburg/ mecklenburg co, va, which i will also say more about but, first, here is the info on the wilkins family.   John Wilkins married 1st to Mary Unknown (d. by 1751), married 2nd to Hannah Unknown. This may be the John Wilkins who patented land in King William Co. in 1722. Was in Spotsylvania Co. in 1720's where he registered his livestock. Was in Hanover Co. in 1734 when he bought 1000 acres in Brunswick Co. While in Brunswick Co. he and Mary sold 200 ac. In Lunenburg Co. he and Mary sold 400 ac. in 1746. That year, he was appointed security for guardianship of Hannah Clements, orphan of John Clements. In a 1751 deed, his wife was Hannah. Last record of John is in 1757. Children of John Wilkins and wife Mary: 1. Thomas Wilkins mar. Hannah (Clements?), he died by 1784 in Lunenburg or Mecklenburg. Had at least one son John who married Anne Unknown. Thomas received land from his father in 1749, where he was already living. Bought land from Francis Bressie that his son John and wife Anna, of Mecklenburg Co. sold in 1774. 2. William Wilkins, mar. Sarah Avoreth? (dau. of Thos. & Sarah) ca. 1750. Wm. received 100 ac. from his father in 1749. Wm. made his mark "W" in early deeds. He had at least one son James, married to a Newton by 1785 - wife's name was Lettice (1796). Wm. and Sarah may have possibly been the parents of Thomas who mar. Susannah Pace (Cleveland Co NC); and John who mar. Mildred Parrish (Halifax Co. VA). 3. James Wilkins, d. 1781, Mecklenburg Co., VA, mar. Arabella Smith, widow of Daniel Marrow. He received 100 ac. from his father in 1751. Children: Charles Wilkins (went to N.C. and mar. 1st Frances Jones, mar. 2nd to Elizabeth Puryear; Martha Wilkins; Sukey Vaughan Wilkins; Mary Wilkins; Milly Newton Wilkins. 4. Richard Wilkins mar. Rebecca Twitty. He died abt. 1796 in Granville Co. N.C. Received a horse from his father in 1751. Was in Mecklenburg Co. until 1780's when he moved to Granville Co. NC where he died. Possible children were: Rebecca, William, Allin, Sophia, Polly, Thomas (who was in the same dist. in N.C. w/Richard?) 5. Susannah Wilkins - no further info. 6. Mary Ann Wilkins married Bartholomew Stovall and moved to N.C. (Still not identified: Clement Wilkins of Mecklenburg Co. who may have later been in N.C.; Valentine Mullins to whom John deeded 250 acres; Lunenburg Court Order Books indicate there may have been a John, Jr.; Mary Wilkins in Mecklenburg Co. Clement Wilkins in Mecklenburg Co. Sarah Wilkins.   again, here is a mecklenburg co, va deed showing that richard wilkins had been in lunenburg/ mecklenburg co, va before moving to granville co, nc.   mecklenburg co, va deed book 2, page 501, 1770, richard wilkins of granville co, nc to william wilkerson of mecklenburg co, va for 115 pds, 152 acres on both sides of the great buffalo creek bounded by seals; wilkins; chesser; wilson.  signed.  richard wilkins.  no witnesses.  deed was acknowledged by richard wilkins and his wife, rebecca.   to be continued:   belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8------26910  

Ira L. Harris III, In response to your question, These are the Negro (free) and Mulatto as described in the 1754 Militia list of Granville County, North Carolina. Edward Harris married one of the Chavers daughters. His origins are unknown. North Carolina State Records, Volume 22, Pages 370-380; Colonel William Eaton's Regiment of Militia, Granville County, North Carolina. Captain John Glover's Company, October 8, 1754; William Chavers, Negro. William Chavers Jr., Mulatto. Gilbert Chavers, Mulatto. Edward Harris, Negro. These are the only Negro listed in Glover's Company or in any of the Granville Companies of Militia for that year, but there are some others listed as Mulatto. James E. Hargraves In a message dated 8/1/2008 3:01:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Source: GRANVILLE COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA DEEDS, 1779-1784 Abstracted by Timothy W. Rackley Copyright 2003, Timothy W. Rackley PO Box 2502, Kernersville, NC 27285-2502 DEED BOOK O 373- (236). Philip Chavers & Celia his wife of Granville County, NC to John Penn of County aforesaid, 28 December 1782, for 500 pounds current money, a tract or parcel of land containing 600 acres in the fork between Tar River & Tabb's Creek & the lands belonging to William Dickerson & Edward Harris. Phillip Chavers Witness: Rowland Terry Jurat, James Byars, Gululmus Byars. Granville County February Court 1783. this deed was duly proved by the oath of Rowland Terry & ordered to be registered. Asa Searcy CC. Truly Registered pr M. Satterwhite PR Who is the Edward Harris mentioned in this deed? What family is he part of? Any information is appreciated. Please respond through HH so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Member, Group 6, Harris Y-DNA Family Study ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

This map I found online is quite handy for River and creek reference. http://home.comcast.net/~p.a.miller/genealogy/pix/norton/maps/granvilletwps. jpeg >From the main page http://home.comcast.net/~p.a.miller/genealogy/docs/ncgranvilletax.htm which has Granville Tax lists. Mary Harris

Ira, What I can find is all listed below in the will of Robert Harris 1785-1786. The only person not listed is the Turner Harris and the only Turner Harris I am aware of was out of Bute County. You will also notice Richard Donaldson Cook at the end of the will. Mary Harris ************ This will was located in NC State Archives NC, Granville County In the name of God amen I Robert Harris _____ of the County of Granville being _____ weak in body but of sound _____mind and memory and understanding do make this my last will and testament utterly revoking all other wills testaments codicils of wills heretofore made by me. Item: I give to my niece Mary Harris daughter of David Harris one of my best beds of furniture also one cow and calf. Item: I give to my grandson Thomas Harris son of Thomas Harris one Negro boy called _____ also all the land I possess joining the land of Kimbrough Ogilvie and Thomas Wilbourn except one hundred acres which is to be laid off for said Thomas Wilbourn to him _______ _______ ____ ______. Item: I give to my daughter Mary Ogilvie fifty pounds current money to be paid out of my estate. Item: I give to my daughter Lemander Hampton fifty pounds current money to be paid out of my estate. All the rest of my estate both real and personal to be sold at twelve months ________ and equally divided amongst my sons Christopher Harris, Sherwood Harris, Robert Harris, David Harris, and Samuel Harris. Item: I give unto my wife Lemander Harris one Negro wench by the name of Phoba (or Rhoda) and all the property she has unto her possession now _________ ____ during her natural life __ providing she proves by good and sufficient witness that she had just cause to leave her marriage bed and if not the said Negro and other property she has in her possession to be taken by my executors hereafter named and sold and applied as I have dictated. ___________________ that all Book Debts due me shall be given up to the Debtors. Lastly I constitute my son Sherwood Harris, Samuel Harris and my good friend Col. Joseph Taylor Executors of this my last will and testament In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal this 5th day of June 1785. Robert Harris (Seal) Sealed, published and declared To be his last will and testament in presence of R. D. Cook, Temperance Wilbourn, John ? Granville County, August Court AD 1786 The Last will and Testament of Robert Harris ? was duly proved by the oath of Richard Donaldson Cook and John Ogilvie and ordered to be recorded then Sherwood Harris, Samuel Harris and Joseph Taylor qualified as Executors in the said will.