On Sep 15, 2008, at 12:55 PM, belva cauthen wrote: Who is the William Harris in Halifax VA in the same area as Difficult Creek in 1779? 1779 Jul 15 - Halifax Co., Va. - pg 228 - A deed from William Harris of Halifax, to Nathaniel Vasser of Amelia County for 245 pounds about 200 acres in Halifax and bounded by the lands of John Richman, JOHN STANLEY, Charles Stokes and said Harris. No Witnesses. Recorded Jul 15, 1779. > Belva, Various records in Halifax Co. and Patrick Co. prove that the William Harris in the Difficult Creek area in 1779 was the father of Elijah Harris, whose descendants have tested into Harris DNA Group 30. The first evidence that I have found of this William Harris in Halifax Co. is this: Halifax County, VA Deed Book 11 p. 154 19 nov 1778 from Thomas Tunks of H to William Harris of Amelia county, for 350 £, 400 acres in H, and bounded by William Bolling’s Path. Signed Thos. Tunks. Wit John Coleman, Abram Legrand, Mordecai Rucker Recorded 19 nov 1778 William Harris bought more land in the Difficult Creek area over the next few years, and in addition to selling land to Nathaniel Vasser, he also sold land to a "John Harris of Amelia County" and to a James Harris. In addition to this William Harris in the vicinity of Difficult Creek (North District), the Halifax Co. Personal Property Tax Lists and other records also show another William Harris in the South District in the vicinity of Polecat Creek, Mirey Creek and Tobey Creek. I have followed the trail of this William Harris back to Amelia County, but have been unable to go further. The facts that he lived until @1815 and that he had a son born about 1768 leads me to estimate his DoB as about 1724/1748. A William Harris owned land in Amelia Co. on Deep Creek/Winningham Branch from the 1730s; he apparently had a son William, who died 1779. The Amelia Co. tithes lists and various deeds show that there was a William Harris in Amelia Co. in the vicinity of Sandy Creek beginning in the 1750s through 1778. There are also Amelia Co. records showing a John Harris in this area. Deep Creek is in the southeastern part of present-day Amelia Co., whereas Sandy Creek is in the northwestern part of the county, between Flatt Creek and the Appomattox River near the county line with Prince Edward Co. and Cumberland Co. William Harris of Sandy Creek was associated there with the Hendrick and Vasser families in this area of Sandy Creek as shown by the following records: Amelia Co, VA Deed Book 7:351 22 May 1760 Deed: Benjamin Hurt and Titus Hurt, of Caroline County, to Obediah Hendrick, of Amelia County, for £40, 304 acres in Amelia County, adjoining Abraham Vasser, a branch, Henry Isbell, and Morris... /s/ Benjamin Hurt, Titus Hurt. Wit: James Hendrick, William Harris, Elizabeth Hendrick, Hans Hendrick. Rec 27 nov 1760 Amelia Co DB8: 122 Obediah Hendrick of Raleigh Parish Amelia co. to Zachariah Hendrick of same 28 apr 1763 250£ 504a in Amelia on heads of branches of Sandy Creek & Flat Creek wit none Belva also stated: per the info pat mason harris/ pat clare posted previously, this may have been pat seaver's william harris/ elizabeth (hendrick), who witnessed this amelia co, va deed re benjamin hurt/ titus hurt of caroline co, va to obadiah hendrick. There are several Halifax Co. records that indicate that the wife of William Harris of Difficult Creek was named Elizabeth, and there are Amelia Co. records that show that the William Harris of Sandy Creek lived near and associated with the Hendricks family. The 1777 Amelia Co. will of Benjamin Hendrick named a son Bernard Hendrick. (The same will named a Susanna Harris, but no relationship was stated in the McConnaughey's abstract.) William and Elizabeth Harris of Difficult Creek had a son named Barnard/Bernard/Barnet. That Barnard Harris was one of the appraisers of the estate and inventory of an Obediah Harris who died 1814 in Patrick Co. However, I do not know of any proof that the William Harris of Sandy Creek married Elizabeth Hendrick. Although some members of the Amelia Co. Hendrick family did move to Halifax Co, they moved to the South District, where they lived near the William Harris of Polecat, Tobey, and Mirey Creeks. If anyone knows of any information that supports the speculation that Elizabeth Hendrick was the wife of William Harris of Difficult Creek, please post it here. I have cited only a few of the more pertinent records from those I have collected. If anyone wants a more complete citation, I will be happy to share them. Pat Seaver

Has anyone worked on the following Harrises I found in the 1850 census for Smyth Co VA. Part of Smyth Co was taken from Washington Co VA and Washington was formed from Fincastle Co in 1777. Here is an interesting site for tracking the county formation for VA. http://historical-county.newberry.org/website/virginia/viewer.htm 1 7 9 Harris Thomas 62 M W Blacksmith 350 VA 2 7 9 Harris Mary 52 F W VA 3 7 9 Harris Martha A. 24 F W VA 4 7 9 Harris Emily B. 19 F W VA 5 7 9 Harris Hiram A. 15 M W Laborer VA 6 7 9 Harris Walter L. 13 M W VA 7 7 9 Harris Rees T. 11 M W VA 8 7 9 Harris William H. 9 M W VA 33 111 113 Harris Henry 40 M W Laborer VA X 34 111 113 Harris Lucinda 40 F W VA 35 111 113 Harris Mary E. 15 F W VA X 36 111 113 Harris Nancy 13 F W VA X 37 111 113 Harris Susan 11 F W VA X 38 111 113 Harris John 9 M W VA 39 111 113 Harris Helen 7 F W VA 40 111 113 Harris Nathan 5 M W VA 41 111 113 Harris Henry T. 1 M W VA 8 561 568 Harris Nathan 51 M W Farmer 850 VA 19 561 568 Harris Rachel 38 F W VA 20 561 568 Harris James F. 15 M W Laborer VA 21 561 568 Harris Nathaniel 89 M W None 2,360 VA X 22 562 569 Harris Nat 49 M W Farmer VA X 23 562 569 Harris Mary 45 F W VA 24 562 569 Harris George E. 26 M W Laborer VA 25 562 569 Harris James A. 23 M W Carpenter VA 26 562 569 Harris William C. 21 M W Laborer VA 27 562 569 Harris Henry C. 18 M W Laborer VA 28 562 569 Harris Nathaniel J. 15 M W Laborer VA 29 562 569 Harris John T. 13 M W VA 30 562 569 Harris Alfred J. 10 M W VA 31 562 569 Harris Susannah J. 9 F W VA X 32 562 569 Harris Mary C. 6 F W VA 35 695 702 Harris Lilburn H. 31 M W Farmer VA 36 695 702 Harris Phebe M. 28 F W NC X 37 695 702 Harris Mary E. 8 F W VA X 38 695 702 Harris Rebecca J. 5 F W VA 39 695 702 Harris William A. 3 M W VA 40 695 702 Harris Anna C. 1 F W VA Leon [email protected]

pat   again, thanks for the info you posted re this 1750 dodson survey for my william harris, sr/ frances goode and his father, who is definitely indicated to have been william harris/ judith hudson and who were the only william harrises who would have been in this same lunenburg co, va/ halifax co, va area when this survey was made and who were in cornelius cargill's district, again, along with my mackerness goode, sr, etc, per the 1749 lunenburg co, va tithe list.   i am going to come back and talk myself some more about this info but i want to make a correction  or a clarification per the following deed you cited.   per this deed,  re thomas finney to my william harris, sr/ frances goode, this should read formerly marable's overseer not marvills.   p. 24 2 oct 1746 Surv.d S.W. Thomas Finny enters 400 acres of land on  the Head Branches of the Bear Br. transferr’d to Wm. Harris formerly  Marvills overseer Entry record book 1737-1770:  land entries in the  present Virginia counties of Halifax, Pittsylvania, Henry, Franklin  and Patrick Marian Dodson Chiarito 1984  (Bear Branch is a tributary  to Wynns Creek)   again, it was my william harris, sr/ frances goode, who had the agreement with william marable re his plantation, finneywood, wherein my william harris, sr/ frances goode acted as the overseer for marable for several years and apparently as a young man and  before he began to acquire land there on his own per patents, etc.   again, a suit ensued re my william harris, sr/ frances goode and william marable and my mackerness goode, sr; samuel goode, who was the brother-in-law of my william harris, sr/ frances goode, etc, gave depositions re this suit.   again, this was my mackerness goode, sr's son, samuel goode, and brother-in-law of my william harris, sr/ frances goode,  who married jemimiah davenport, daughter of joseph davenport of lunenburg co, va/ granville co, nc, who moved to newberry co, sc.   again, per the laurens co, sc grants which i have posted several times now, a tax/ memorial had to be paid on these grants in charleston.   again, joseph davenport paid for and signed for my mackerness goode, sr's 100 acre laurens co, sc grant.  again, cornelius cargill, son of john cargill, sr/ rachel tinsley paid for my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers 150- acre laurens co, sc grant.   again, my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers and his uncle samuel goode, along with sarah, widow of the same cornelius cargill, paid the security re cornelius cargill's estate in 1780 in this 96th dist/ laurens co, sc area.   again, these were the same families, including the hans hendrick family and wynn family, per the info i just posted, involved with my harris and goode family in this same lunenburg/ halifax cos, va area, who continued to be involved with them in laurens co, sc.   again, i have more to say about these connections and info later.   belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8---------26910

Some months ago, I posted a record found in Roger C. Dodson’s Property Lines from an Old Survey Book Halifax County, Virginia 1741 to 1901 VA-NC Piedmont Genealogical Society 1987 regarding 820 acres on Wynn’s Creek and Powells Branch surveyed by Sherwood Walton for William Harris, Sr. & Jr 19 february 1750. At the time, it was assumed that the date was in error and that the record referred to the 820 acres patented by William Harris 15 dec 1758. I have since viewed the microfilm of the Index to Halifax County Deeds and found that the index book also has the 1750 date with the names William Harris, Sr. and William Harris, Jr., both referenced to Survey Book 1 (FHL US/CAN Film 31940 Survey Book v. 1 1751-1901, which includes surveys done ca. 1746-1747 when Halifax was part of Lunenburg Co.) Since that time, I have found more records that seem to suggest that a William Harris acquired more than one parcel of land in the vicinity of Wynns Creek. Following are the relevant records: p. 24 2 oct 1746 Surv.d S.W. Thomas Finny enters 400 acres of land on the Head Branches of the Bear Br. transferr’d to Wm. Harris formerly Marvills overseer Entry record book 1737-1770: land entries in the present Virginia counties of Halifax, Pittsylvania, Henry, Franklin and Patrick Marian Dodson Chiarito 1984 (Bear Branch is a tributary to Wynns Creek) p. 34 6 oct 1746 Surv.d S.W. Thomas Finny enters 400/acres/of Land on the Middle Br. of Wynns Cr. Beginning at the Buffaloe Bed thence up and down. transferred to Wm. Harris of Finnywood Entry record book 1737-1770: land entries in the present Virginia counties of Halifax, Pittsylvania, Henry, Franklin and Patrick Marian Dodson Chiarito 1984 (Buffalo Bed is on Wynns Creek) 19 feb 1750 820 acres surveyed on Wynns Creek & Powels Br for William Harris, Sr. & William Harris, Jr. (FHL US/CAN Film 31940 Survey Book v. 1 1751-1901). Lunenburg co, VA DB 4: 337-338 26 apr 1756 Robert Wooding of Antrim Parish in Hallifax Co. owes money to John Hood, Merchant, in Prince George County; Wooding mortgages property to Field Jefferson of Cumberland Parish in L for 400£ to be repaid by 8 sep 1756: (1) 200a in L both sides Smith’s Cr...(2) 245a in sd county lying on Taylor Cr, waters of Meherrin...; also 400a being in Halifax Co, lying on Wynn’s Cr purchased of William Harriss of Lunenburg Co; (3) 400a in Halifax Co. purchased of Thomas Finney; ... Wit: John Camp, William X Conventon, Hugh + McCay Sign Robert wooding Rec 4 nov 1756 (Lunenburg county, Virginia Deed Book 4 1754-1757 Abstracted by June Banks Evans Bryn Ffyliaid Publications New Orleans, LA 1990) 15 dec 1758 William Harris patented 820a branches of Wynns Creek by Buckner Stith (Lunenburg County, Virginia Land Patents, 1746-1916, T.L.C. Genealogy) Halifax Co, VA Deed Book 2 Page 72. 20 August in the 33rd year of our reign. Commision to Matthew Marable, Richd Witton, Henry Deloney, John Speed, or any two, to take the relinquishment of dower of Frances Harris of Lunenburg County, wife of William Harris and certify same. Signed: Geo. Currie CHC. Halifax Co, VA Deed Book 2 4 December 1758 Frances Harris relinquished her right of dower in a certain tract of land conveyed by her husband William Harris to John Camp. Signed: Mat. Marable, John Speed. (marginal note, This dedimus is so recorded here by mistake. Not indexed in Halifax County). Halifax Co, VA Deed Book 2 Page 70. 7 August 1759. William Harris of Lunenburg County to John Camp of same, for (pounds) 50, 400 acres, part of a tract patented by said Harris 15 December 1758 of 820 acres, beginning at Sizemore's corner pine thence south...Buckner Stith's corner....a dividing line running south....all houses, orchards, trees, etc. Signed: Wm. Harris Witness: C. Read Jr., R. Wooding, Paul Carrington, Mat. Marable. Recorded: date not given. HalifaxCo VA Plea Book No 2 Part 2 August court 1759 p. 455 A deed from William Harris to John Camp, was proved by the oaths of Clement Read Jr. and Paul Carrington, 2 of the witnesses thereto. Clement Read also proved the endorsement thereon. Ordered to be Certified Halifax Co, VA Plea Book No. 3 December court 1759 (3) p. 2 A deed from William Harris to John Jeffris was proved by the witnesses thereto and ordered recorded (John Jeffries: Inventory & appraisement of John Wilbourn estate, William Harris, executor, 1757; Mecklenburg County November Court 1830 Susannah U. HARRIS......plaintiff against John S. Jeffries and Thomas B. Puryear execs of Reuben HARRIS dec'd and Patsey Puryear wife of said Thomas B. Puryear....Defendants) Halifax Co, VA Deed Book 4 p. 11 1 jun 1762 John Jeffries of Lunenburg Co. to John Camp of same, for £80, 420 acres on Bear Br., granted by patent (torn)...beg. at Margery Sizemore’s Corner...crossing Bear Br. and Bufflow Bed...All houses, gardens... Signed: John Jeffries Wit: Robert Woodsing, Thos. Cobbs, Robert Wade, Jr. Richd. Brown Recorded 17 jun 1762 Halifax Co, VA Deed Book 5 p. 199 13 sep 1764 William Harris of Lunenburg co. to John Camp of same for £30, 400 acres, part of a tract granted by patent 15 dec 1758 containing 820 acres, beg. at Sisemore’s cor. thence south...Buckner Stith’s cor... Signed: William Harris Wit: Mathew Marable, John Coleman, Edward Wade, Armd. Watlington Recorded 20 sep 1764 Halifax Co, VA Deed Book 5 p. 393 14 feb 1765 William Harris of Lunenburg co. to John Camp of same, for £30, 420 acres, part of 820 acres formerly granted by patent to William harris, on both sides of a branch of Wynns Cr. called the Bufflow bead, beg. at Margery Sizemore’s cor. thence south...the Bear Br. of Bufflow Bed... Signed William HarrisWit: Edward Wade, Andrew Wade, Jeremiah keen, Thomas FargusonRecorded 20 jun 1765 Halifax County, VA Deed Book 8 p. 19 5 dec 1769 from Michael Mackey & Susannah his wife of Lunenburg Co. to Benjamin Hall of H, 30 £ 10 sh, about 196 acres, on a branch of Wynns Cr., bounded by Harris. Signed Michael Mackey,Susannah (X her mar) Mackey Wit: Anthony Irby, Sarah Irby, John Irby, Mary Irby. Rec. 21 jun 1770 Observations: I had previously questioned how it was possible for Frances Harris to relinquish her dower rights 4 December 1758, when William did not sell the land to John Camp until 7 august 1759. These records show that in 1746 Thomas Finny patented two parcels of 400 acres each on branches of Wynns Creek and transferred them to William Harris. Further, the 1756 Robert Wooding mortgage indicates that he had purchased 400 acres on Wynns Creek from William Harriss. Therefore, the land that William Harris was selling in 1759 may not have been the land that he patented in 1758. The land that Frances Harris released in 1758 could have been land that William had acquired from Thomas Finny. This record is particularly interesting: Halifax Co, VA Plea Book No. 3 December court 1759 (3) p. 2 A deed from William Harris to John Jeffris was proved by the witnesses thereto and ordered recorded As far as I know, the deed from William Harris to John Jeffris is not found in Halifax County records. Given that it was ordered to be recorded at the December Court of 1759, we would expect to find this deed either in Deed Book 1 or Deed Book 2. Marian Dodson Chiarito notes that pages 1-6 and 473-476 are missing and pages 477 and 478 are partly missing from Deed Book 1. What we do see is that John Jeffries sells 420 acres on Bear Branch (of Wynns Creek) to John Camp in 1762. A John Jeffries was an appraiser in 1757 with John Camp of the estate of John Wilbourn; William Harris was an executor of Wilbourn’s will. William Harris sold 400 acres in 1764 and 420 acres in 1765 to John Camp, and those deeds specifically designate the land as part of the 1758 patent. As late as 1769, there is a reference to land on Wynns Creek bounded by Harris. These records do not explain the 1750 record which refers to a William Harris, Sr. and a William Harris, Jr. However, the 1756 Wooding mortgage does prove that a William Harris had land on Wynns Creek prior to his patent of 820 acres in 1759. The land that Wooding mortgaged may have been some of the land included in the 1750 survey or it may have been some of the land patented by Thomas Finny in 1746 and subsequently transferred to William Harris. Pat Seaver

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there is one final thing i want to re- post re these connections re my harris family; my  goode family; and the wynn/ hendrick families there in lunenburg co, va.   again, per these early lunenburg co, va tithe lists, this was my william harris, sr/ frances goode; my mackerness goode, sr; william harris/ judith hudson; peter hudson, sr and jr, as well as william wynn and hans hendrick, III, etc, who were all in cornelius cargill's district per this 1749 lunenburg co, va tithe list.              Cornelius Cargill's List of Tithes for ye year 1749                                               Tithes       Scalps &                                                             Heads Edward Powell ................................  3            18 Wm. Marrable   Son Matthew   Saml. Taylor, overseer .....................  8            23 Jeremiah Viteto [?] ..........................  1 Daniel Maclard ...............................  1 Mr. William Byrd   John Lucas .............................................................Edward Moorefield ............................  1 Peter Hudson, Junr. ..........................  1             6 Thos. Nuby ...................................  1             2 Peter Hudson, Senr.   Jas. Daniel ................................  4            24 Colo. William Wynne   William Wynne ..............................  3            18 Robt. Wynne ..................................  2 Thos. Wynne ..................................  1             6 Enoch Davies .................................  1 {page 117}                                               Tithes       Scalps &                                                             Heads Mr. William Irby   John Powell, overseer ......................  7            19 .............................................................................William Tybbs ................................  1             4 Saml. Harris .................................  3            18 {page 118}                                               Tithes       Scalps &                                                             Heads Adlar David, Decd.   John Bolding, overseer .....................  4            24 William Harris (Blestone) ....................  2             5 William Eckholls .............................  1 .............................................................................Samuel Goode   Jno. Goode, overseer .......................  3            18 Magnes Goode .................................  4            24 Jno. Sansom ..................................  1             6 William Goode ................................  1 Thomas Carson ................................  1 David Colwell ................................  1 William Harris ...............................  1             6 John Wilbon ..................................  1             6 Wm. Wilkins ..................................  ..................................................................................................... Luke Smith, Junr. [Senr.?]   Luke Smith, Junr.   James Wilkins, overseer ....................  6            36 Hance Hendrick ...............................  1   again, it is this same hance/ hans hendrick, III, on this 1749 lunenburg co, va tithe list, along with my mackerness goode, sr and my william harris, sr/ frances goode, etc, who was the son of this hans hendrick, II, of amelia co, va, who married margaret wynn, daughter of this col william wynn also in cornelius cargill's district and on this same list, who, again, moved to laurens co, sc where they continued to be involved there with our patrick cunningham/ ann harris; my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers; the same burgess family and other of these same individuals and families significantly involved with them also there in laurens co, sc.   again, to me, these are significant and relevant connections re my harris and goode family with the hendrick family, etc, both there in this same lunenburg/ amelia cos, va area and also on into laurens co, sc.     belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8---------26910  

here is also some of the info i posted previously re hans hendrick/ margaret wynn's association with our patrick cunningham/ ann harris;  my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers and the same burgess family, etc, in laurens co, sc.   this was also joel burgess' daughter, who married william wynne hendrick, son of hans and margaret wynne hendrick, who was the daughter of col william wynne of halifax/ pittsylvania cos, va.   laurens co, sc deed book F, page 441, 1798, william harriss to john cunningham for $85, spanish milled, 200 acres on duncans creek and little river, all my part of a 1796 survey to patrick cunningham and william harriss for 500 acre grant 2/ 6/ 1799 to john and robert cunningham and said william harriss.  witnesses:  elijah burgess; thomas redden.  zech bailey, j.p. dower renunciation of wife, frances harriss.     ( deed also says that my frances rodgers harris was the widow of my william harris, jr by 5/ 13/ 1799 and my frances rodgers harris, daughter of my john rodgers, esq, also died in 1801 in laurens co, sc.  my john rodgers, sr/ esq was the son of andrew rodgers, sr, who died in 1755 in  lunenburg, now charlotte co, va. )   again, william wynne hendrick, son of hans and margaret wynne hendrick, married a daughter of joel burgess and per the info, the burgess family had moved to laurens co, sc from bedford co, va.   laurens will book C-1, page 32, 1803, will of joel burgess, legatees included his wife: ellen; sons: william; elijah; joel; walter; john; thomas; rowland burgess; daus: jenny; salley; nelly; betsy; and son-in-law, william wynn hendrick and his dau tabitha. exec: wife, ellen and sons, joel and rowland burgess.  wit:  ezekiel rowland; thomas babb; and william nelson.   the following laurens co, sc deed connects margaret wynne hendrick, widow of hans hendrick, with her son micajah hendrick, who was still in pittsylvania co, va.   laurens deed book B, page 223, 1787, micajah hendrick of pittsylvania co, va to my mother, margaret, widow of hans hendrick, decd, of 96th dist, deed of gift of 450 acres in two tracts on north side of reedy bordered on patrick cunningham; thomas carter; richard lanyard; henry parker; mary adkins; sarah bowman; for and during her natural life. wit:  lewis banton; edmond ware; michael lawless. george anderson, j.p.   hans hendrick/ margaret wynne, who is said to have been the daughter of col william wynne of lunenburg/ halifax/ pittsylvania co, va, was the son of hans hendrick who died in amelia co, va.   this hans hendrick' s daughter, per his amelia co, va will,  had a daughter, sarah hendrick goode,  who is indicated to have been the wife of either my mackerness goode, sr or his son, our mackerness goode, jr but i cannot confirm this for sure for now.   hans hendrick, II' s amelia co, va will is from a site on the hendrick family, which can be found on line.   Hans Hendrick, II,  left a will in Amelia County dated 20 January 1773[28]. He named his wife Rachel, and two sons: Hance (the 3rd) and John. Daughters named in the will were Anne Hendrick, Elizabeth Osborne and Sarah Goode. The will was witnessed by Benjamin Hendrick (presumably his brother) and Obadiah and John Hendrick (presumably sons of Benjamin or Hance) as well as Thomas Osborne (presumably Elizabeths husband). Benjamin Hendrick and Thomas Osborne were named executors.   again, hans and margaret wynne hendrick were definitely also associated with the same families in laurens co, sc as my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers and his brother-in-law, our patrick cunningham/ ann harris.    here are some other of these laurens co, sc deeds, which, again, connect hans and margaret wynn hendrick, with our patrick cunningham/ ann harris and with my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers and/ or the same individuals in laurens co, sc.   Laurens Deed Book A, page 161, 1785,  david dickson of tyger river spartanburg co to patrick cunningham for 530 pds, 150 acres on the saluda and reedy river, b on john willard, hans hendrick, former property of hugh brown.  wit:  isaac mitchell; john elmore; robert brown; sarah cunningham.     laurens co, sc deed book C, page 215, 1790 john atkins of moore co, nc and wife margaret to george morgan for 100 pds, 179 acres part of 250 acre grant in 1768 to john willard on reedy river then bordered on john brown; john cargill; hance hendrick. wit:  lewis graves; middleton prater; james morgan.  george anderson, j. p.   laurens deed book E, page 438, 1774/ 1795, john willard and wife, martha, of 96th dist, sc to joseph atkins for 10 shillings 179 acres, part of 250 acre grant in 1768 on both sides of reedy river bordered on john brown; john cargill; hans hendrick. wit:  john cobb; william burgess; patrick cunningham. patrick cunningham, j.p.   this john willard, per the info, was the son-in-law of hans and margaret wynne hendrick.   as indicated, hans hendrick's land also bordered on john cargill.  this was john cargill, sr/ rachel tinsley also of lunenburg/ halifax co, va, son of cornelius cargill of lunenburg co, va.   it was john cargill, sr/ rachel tinsley's son cornelius cargill, who paid the tax/ memorial for my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers 1771, 150 acre grant there in laurens co, sc.  also, their son, thomas cargill was one of the purchasers at my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers 1800 laurens co, sc estate sale.   laurens deed book F, page 522, micajah hendrick to william winn hendrick for 50 pds, 300 acres on both sides of reedy river, orig grant to hans hendrick in 1774 and to micajah hendrick lawful heir.  wit:  john wait; elijah burgess; jacob niswanger.  lewis graves, j.p.    william wynne hendrick, son of hans and margaret wynne hendrick,  married a daughter of joel burgess.  elijah burgess was the son of joel burgess.    john wait married into the family of james and margaret rodgers anderson, who also moved from lunenburg/ charlotte co, va to laurens co, sc and margaret rodgers anderson was the sister of my john rodgers, esq, father of my frances rodgers harris.   hans hendrick, III, died intestate in this 96th dist/ laurens co, sc area but this is the will for his wife, margaret wynne hendrick:     Laurens Co, SC will book A-1, page 158, 1797, will of margaret hendrick. legatees:  2 sons:  micajah and william winn hendrick; 6 daus:  fanny turner; peggy forgy; rachel hendrick; mary burgess; elizabeth wright; martha willard. executor, friend, lewis graves. wit:  john middleton; jacob clemons; elizabeth sims.   this lewis graves, executor of margaret wynn hendrick's laurens co, sc will, was also one of the witnesses to patrick cunningham/ ann harris' 1796 laurens co, sc will along with memucan walker and sarah (harris?) cargill clary.     john wait;  john middleton; and sylvanus walker, jr,  were the appraisers of my william harris, jr's estate sale in 1800 in laurens co, sc.    john middleton also married into the family of james and margaret rodgers anderson, who was the sister of my john rodgers, esq, father of my frances rodgers harris.   again, they were the children of my andrew rodgers, sr, who died in 1755 in lunenburg, now charlotte co, va.   these, then, are/ were some very involved connections re hans hendrick of amelia co, va and his son hans hendrick/ margaret wynne with my harris and goode family, etc, not only there in this lunenburg/ amelia cos, va area, which also included the osbornes and this william harris/ martha osborne, but also on into laurens co, sc.   again, it continues to be a puzzle and a challenge to try and sort this all our re our harris families, and especially when it comes to all our william harrises, but, hopefully, we will continue to learn more and to figure this all out at some point.     belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8------26910    

here is info per this rootsweb site re martha osborne/  william harris.    as indicated, per the info, this was this martha  osborne harris' father, thomas osborne/ ann worsham, who died in 1755 in lunenburg co, va and whose estate was appraised by my william harris, sr/ frances goode; my mackerness goode, sr and his brother, william goode.   the worsham family is also shown to have been involved with my goode family and our harris/ ligon family also in henrico co, va.     this was also my mackerness goode, sr, wife, sarah, who sold  land in lunenburg co, va to reps osborne, brother of martha osborne harris,  per the following lunenburg co, va deed.   lunenburg co, va deed book 3, page 156, 1752,  mackerness goode to reps osborne, both of lunenburg  co, va, for 5 pds, 165 acres in lunenburg co, va on both  sides of the bluestone creek, part of a larger patent to  mackerness goode and bounded by the patent lines.  signed:  mackerness goode, with a mark.  no witnesses.  sarah, wife of mackerness goode, relinquished her  right of dower.   again, my mackerness goode, sr signed with a mark.  as shown, per the laurens co, sc records, his son, our mackerness goode, jr did sign his name.       Jesse BUCKNER & Mary Martha PYLE Descendants; And, A Few Other Folks... Entries: 91349    Updated: 2008-09-08 07:47:25 UTC (Mon)    Contact: SMB    Home Page: Susan's Ancestral Files ID: I47868 Name: Thomas OSBORNE [V] Sex: M Birth: BET 1690 AND 1700 Death: 1755 Father: Thomas OSBORNE [IV] b: BET 1660 AND 1670 Mother: Martha JONES Marriage 1 Ann WORSHAM Children Thomas OSBORNE [VI] Reps OSBORNE b: BET 1723 AND 1727 Martha OSBORNE Jesse BUCKNER & Mary Martha PYLE Descendants; And, A Few Other Folks... Entries: 91349    Updated: 2008-09-08 07:47:25 UTC (Mon)    Contact: SMB    Home Page: Susan's Ancestral Files   ID: I34448 Name: Martha OSBORNE Sex: F Father: Thomas OSBORNE [V] b: BET 1690 AND 1700 Mother: Ann WORSHAM Marriage 1 William HARRIS Children Mary HARRIS     again, we have to be aware that unless sources or some info/ record is cited re these rootsweb sites and/ or info that we post that this info  cannot be counted on to be totally accurate.   also, even info with records cited re our harris familes  both in the past and present, this info has been and  continues to be subject to interpretation, which is another reason we need to continue to look at this info  re our harris families over and over and to continue to  hopefully find other harris descendants to participate in  the harris dna project.     belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8---------26910

again, per the info and these rootsweb sites, this was this thomas osborne/ martha jones' son thomas osborne/ ann worsham, who died in 1755 in lunenburg co, va and whose estate, per the lunenburg co, va records, was appraised by my  william harris, sr/ frances goode; my mackerness goode, sr;  and his brother, william goode.   this is from  lunenburg co, va wills and estates and pat mason harris posted the website for this previously.   Page 146. Inventory and appraisement of the estate of Thos. Osborn (Osborne), deceased. Mar 26. Includes: sundry bed clothes, 1 pair of spectacles, piece of gold. Total: £ 11.6.5. Signed - Wm Goode, Wm Harriss, Mecrness Goode (X his mark), appraisers. Per Rob: Wooding, Adm'r. Recorded Apr 1, 1755.  again, robert wooding married mary marable, daughter of william marable and it was my william harris, sr/ frances goode, who had the agreement with william marable re the plantation, finneywood, there in lunenburg co, va in 1746.   also, robert wooding witnessed a number of lunenburg co, va deeds re my william harris, sr/ frances goode including the following deed:   lunenburg co, va deed book 4, page 213, 1755, william harris of lunenburg co, va to william reade of same for 160 pds,  900 acres at the head branches of the bluestone creek,  bounded by a new line, william tibbs, william harriss' old line.   signed:  william harriss.  witnesses:  robert wooding; thomas  bedford; william jones.  frances, wife of william harris, relinquised her right of dower.   it was also my mackerness goode, sr, who, per the following  lunenburg co, va deed, also sold land to this thomas osborne's  son reps osborne.   lunenburg co, va deed book 3, page 156, 1752, mackerness goode of lunenburg co, va to reps osborne of same for 5 pds,  165 acres on both sides of the bluestone creek being part of  a larger quantity patented to mackeness goode and bounded by the patent corner.  signed:  mackerness goode with a mark.  no witnesses.  sarah, wife of mackerness goode, relinquished her right of dower.   ( david goode, who i have corresponded with in the past, says that my mackerness good, sr's wife was sarah watkins but this was clearly my mackerness goode, sr of lunenburg co, va who sold this land to reps osborne, whose father thomas osborne/ ann worsham is said to have been the same thomas osborne  involved with hans hendrick in amelia co, va.   per the will of hans hendrick there in amelia co, va, he had a daughter sarah hendrick goode.  i do not know if she were the wife of my mackerness goode, sr; or his son, our mackerness goode, jr but the info indicates it was one or the other.)   again, this is still more involved. per info on the hendrick family which can be found on line, this was hans hendrick, II, who died in amelia co, va and his son, hans hendrick, III, who married margaret wynne, daughter of william wynn/ frances reade, and who also moved to laurens co, sc.   again, the land my william harris, sr/ frances goode sold to john camp on wynn creek was probably named for this col william wynn.   again, hans hendrick/ margaret wynn also moved to laurens co, sc and were involved there with our patrick cunningham/ ann harris and the same burgess family, who was also involved with both my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers and patrick cunningham, per laurens co, sc deeds i have posted previously.   also, per the info, it was this thomas osborne/ ann worsham's  daughter, martha osborne who married william harris, who, again,  is said to have been the same william harris, who re-married elizabeth ward and who died in powhatan co, va.   see this info to follow.   Mr. Entries: 88948    Updated: 2007-04-27 00:25:26 UTC (Fri)    Contact: Gordon ID: I41446 Name: Thomas OSBORNE Given Name: Thomas Surname: Osborne Sex: M Birth: Abt 1690 in , Henrico Co, VA Death: 25 May 1755 in , Lunenburg Co, VA Reference Number: 2308 _UID: A6E8CA72FDD641EEAA440644818E5BAC1A78 Change Date: 1 Feb 2003 at 12:30 Father: Thomas OSBORNE b: Abt 1655 in , Henrico Co, VA Mother: Martha JONES b: Abt 1665 in , Henrico Co, VA Marriage 1 Ann WORSHAM b: Abt 1696 in , Henrico Co, VA Married: Abt 1710 Change Date: 1 Feb 2003Children John OSBORNE b: Abt 1712 Daniel OSBORNE b: Abt 1713 Samuel OSBORNE b: Abt 1714 Thomas OSBORNE b: Abt 1715 in , Henrico Co, VA Ann OSBORNE b: Abt 1717 in , Henrico Co, VA Reps OSBORNE b: Abt 1725 Edward OSBORNE b: Abt 1729 Martha OSBORNE b: Bef 1730 Mr. Entries: 88948    Updated: 2007-04-27 00:25:26 UTC (Fri)    Contact: Gordon Index | Descendancy | Register | Pedigree | Ahnentafel | Download GEDCOM | Public Profile | Add Post-em ID: I41469 Name: Thomas OSBORNE Given Name: Thomas Surname: Osborne Sex: M Birth: Abt 1655 in , Henrico Co, VA Death: Jun 1733 in , Henrico Co, VA Reference Number: 2319 _UID: 77543FD43F5D4FD0A9C2632634FC9DF34D82 Change Date: 1 Feb 2003 at 12:30 Father: Thomas OSBORNE b: Abt 1635 in , Henrico Co, VA Mother: Sisely BAILEY b: Abt 1645 Marriage 1 Martha JONES b: Abt 1665 in , Henrico Co, VA Married: Abt 1688 Change Date: 1 Feb 2003Children Mary OSBORNE b: in , Henrico Co, VA Sisely OSBORNE Elizabeth OSBORNE Thomas OSBORNE b: Abt 1690 in , Henrico Co, VA Martha OSBORNE b: Abt 1700 in , Henrico Co, VA Edward OSBORNE b: Abt 1708 to be continued:   belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8----------26910

pat    first of all, thanks for all the harris info you posted re your harris line and family.   when pat and i corresponded with each other earlier re our  harris families, we found a lot of similarities re our interests in  them and in the same families in this same southside amelia,  lunenburg, halfax cos, va area but, our harris dna shows that we do not have the same harris dna and that we do not have the same harris families or ancestors.   this is indicated to have been this harris/ jefferson/ goode/ osborne harris line and family also associated with hans hendrick  there in amelia co, va.     however, this would have been my william harris, sr/ frances goode, along with my mackerness goode, sr and his brother,  william goode, who appraised the estate of thomas osborne/ ann worsham in 1755 in lunenburg co, va.   according to the info, this thomas osborne,  who died in 1755 in lunenburg co, va, was the son of thomas osborne/ martha jones.  per the info, this was his sister martha osborne who was married to william harris, who re-married elizabeth ward.  per the info, this william harris died in powhatan co, va.    per the info pat mason harris/ pat clare posted previously, this may have been pat seaver's william harris/ elizabeth (hendrick),   who witnessed this amelia co, va deed re benjamin hurt/ titus  hurt of caroline co, va to obadiah hendrick.   here is the info pat mason harris/ pat clare posted previously:     Who is the William Harris in Halifax VA in the same area as Difficult Creek in 1779? 1779 Jul 15 - Halifax Co., Va. - pg 228 - A deed from William Harris of  Halifax, to Nathaniel Vasser of Amelia County for 245 pounds about 200 acres in  Halifax and bounded by the lands of John Richman, JOHN STANLEY, Charles Stokes and said Harris. No Witnesses. Recorded Jul 15, 1779. _http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:wd3b44ynOigJ:juliemorrison.com/gen/rickles/rr01/rr01_005.htm+%22difficult+creek%22+halifax+harris&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5& gl=us&ie=UTF-8_ (http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:wd3b44ynOigJ:juliemorrison.com/gen/rickles/rr01/rr01_005.htm+"difficult+creek"+halifax+harris&hl=en&ct =clnk&cd=5&gl=us&ie=UTF-8) Nathaniel Vasser/Vassar is married to Sarah Hudson, daughter of Peter Hudson, Jr/Mourning Hill; Peter Hudson, Jr.  is son of Peter Hudson, Sr. m Martha, widow of Halcott Pride; Nathanial Vasser/Vassar's father is Abraham Vassar/Vasser  who was married to Rhoda Harris of William Harris b ca 1715. William Harris was of Raleigh Parish, Amelia, Virginia. Two of his daughters married into the Vassar family which is highly involved with the Peter Hudson, Parker, and  Owen families. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------- May 1760 Deed: Benjamin Hurt and Titus Hurt, of Caroline County, to Obediah Hendrick, of Amelia County, for £40, 304 acres in  Amelia County, adjoining Abraham Vasser, a branch, Henry Isbell, and Morris... /s/ Benjamin Hurt, Titus Hurt. Wit: James  Hendrick, William Harris,*************************** Elizabeth Hendrick, Hans Hendrick. (Amelia County, VA,  Deeds 7:351) _http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:WLHrkj4tRdQJ:www.genfiles.com/hendrick/C hronicles1760.pdf+%22walnut+creek%22+harris+laurens+carolina+ninety-six&hl=en& ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us&ie=UTF-8_ (http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:WLHrkj4tRdQJ:www.genfiles.com/hendrick/Chronicles1760.pdf+"walnut+creek"+harris+laurens+c arolina+ninety-six&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us&ie=UTF-8) again, henry isbell, per the above amelia co, va deed, was the same henry isbell, who edward harris, wife, ann sold land to in this twitty's creek area and who also witnessed the  1761 lunenburg co, va deed wherein robert gilliam and his father john gilliam, the elder, sold the land on twittys creek to  edward harris, sr   again, it was this edward harris, sr's sons, stephen harris and edward harris, jr, who also moved to laurens co, sc and whose harris descendants test also into our harris dna group 8 and all  of this is a lot more involved period.   LUNENBURG COUNTY RECORDS DEED BOOK #7, Page 279, 1761: "Whereas, Hugh  Miller, Apr. 21, 1755 sold to John Gilliam, 1588 acres of land lying in  Lunenburg County on both sides of Twitty's Creek. It is coventanted that the  said John Gilliam  do lay off and convey unto Edward Harris when thereto required  by good and Lawful Deed at the said Harris costs,  400 acres of the above tract  of 1588 acres including and adjoining the Plantation whereupon the said Edward  Harris now lives, in fee simple the estate of in and to the said 1588 acres of  land with like proviso and conditions.  Now the said Robert Gilliam sells to  Edward Harris of Lunenburg County the said 400 acres aforementioned lying  on  both sides of Twitty's Creek, etc. Witnesses, Henry  Isbell, William Gilliam; Richard Ellis.   i do not know how we resolve a lot of these issues we have re our harris families, who seem to be so closely involved with each other in the same areas except that we keep looking at  and  studying all of this over and over and we do put on here the things we know and have observed and the new things we do learn.   again, i hope we can find other descendants of our harrises to also participate in our harris dna project as this is going to be the major way that we are going to resolve some of these complicated issues of kinship since, as shown, our harris families are shown they were living in and involved with the same individuals and families in the same areas.   to be continued:   belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8---------26901  

Back in December of 2004 Ira Harris posted in three parts on Harris- Hunters a list of men named Claiborne Harris. Ira invited others to submit additional information on these men. I would like to add another Claiborne Harris to the list, and also suggest a revision to the following entry from Part II: 1. Claiborne Harris, born Bef. 1793; died Aft. 1814 Wife, Elizabeth Blanks. s/o Sherrod Harris. gr s/o William & Mary ( ) Harris Based on my own research, that of Sandy Hart, Leon Harris, Bev Harris and Elaine Campbell, I believe that there was another man named Claiborne Harris living in Patrick Co. at the same time, and one of his descendants has recently tested into the Harris DNA Group 30. The second Claiborne Harris was the son of Elijah and Nancy (Lee) Harris, who married in Halifax Co, VA 27 jan 1794. Patrick Co., VA records show that this Elijah Harris was the son of William and Elizabeth (LNU) Harris, who moved to the Russells Creek area of Patrick Co. about 1803, with another son, Barnard Harris. Elijah and Nancy followed about 1806. I descend from Elijah and Nancy’s daughter, Martha/Patsy Harris, who married Allen Morefield in Patrick Co. in 1825. Allen Morefield’s sister, Nancy, married Joseph Harris 1824 in Patrick Co.; two descendants of Joseph and Nancy (Morefield) Harris have also tested into Harris DNA Group 30. In order to avoid confusion later, I should note that there were three Elijah Harrises in Patrick Co. during this time period, one of whom had a son named Claiborne and one of whom had a brother named Claiborne: Elijah, s/o William Harris of Russells Creek Elijah, s/o Sherod Little Dan River Elijah, s/o Samuel Harris of Smith River (DNA Group 10) Elijah, s/o Samuel and Martha (Hylton/Helton) Harris married Lavinia Terry in Patrick Co. 3 oct 1816. Samuel died about 1828, leaving a son, Samuel. Claiborne Harris, s/o Sherod, bonded his sister Charlotte’s 1805 Patrick Co. marriage to Edward Parmer (Palmer). That, and his appearance on the 1807 Patrick Co. Personal Property Tax List (PPTL), indicate that he was born before 1790 and probably before 1783. Claiborne Harris, s/o Elijah and Nancy (Lee) Harris, was age 52 in 1850, an age that is consistent with other census records. In 1820 there were two entries for Claiborne Harriss on the Patrick Co. PPTL, which I first took to be an enumerator error. There was only one Claiborne Harriss on the 1820 Patrick Co, VA census, but his age was not consistent with the age of Claiborne Harris who had bonded an 1805 marriage and appeared on the PPTL as early as 1807: 1820 Patrick Co. VA census p. 115 1 male age 16-26 1 female age 16-26 The next household was Elijah Harriss, over age 45. Of the two entries for Claiborne Harriss on the 1820 Patrick Co, PPTL, one was enumerated on 7 february, the same date as Elijah Harriss and the other was enumerated on 3 april, the same date as Sarah Harriss. About 1827 or 1828, Elijah Harris’s brother, Barnard, died in Patrick County. At about the same time, Elijah and Nancy Harris sold their land on Russells Creek. By 1830, Elijah Harris of Russells Creek, Patrick Co., VA was living in Wilson County, TN, and Claib Harris was in neighboring Rutherford Co, TN, age 30-40. (There was also an Eli Harris in Wilson Co., TN.) In 1830 there was a Claiborn Harris enumerated in Patrick Co. age 40-50, which, of course, does not match the Claiborne Harriss who was there in 1820. A Claiborn(e) Harriss also appeared on the Patrick Co. PPTL in 1830, 1831 and 1832 (I have transcribed the Patrick Co, VA PPTL only through 1835). I found no Claiborne Harris on the Patrick Co. PPTL 1822-1829. It is known that Claiborne’s younger sister, Martha/Patsy, married Thomas Beasley in Surry County, NC in 1821 (that this was Sherod’s daughter is proved by Martha/Patsy’s KY death record, which names her parents as Sherad and Sarah Harris). Further, Sherod Harris had lived on Harris Creek of the Little Dan River, not far from the Surry Co, NC border. Perhaps Claiborne lived in Surry Co. 1821-1829. In 1840 Claiborne Harris had moved from Rutherford Co, TN to Wilson Co, TN. In 1841 Elijah Harris left his will in Wilson Co. (Elaine Campbell found this will in loose documents in the court house), naming his wife Nancy and his son Claiborne and referring to other children, but he did not name them. In 1850 Claiborne Harris age 52, born VA was living in Wilson Co. TN with wife Mary and children Parthena, James, Martha, Nancy, and Mary. Claiborne Harris married Mary Summers 1835 in Rutherford Co, TN, but the 1830 Rutherford Co. household of Claiborne Harris included a male under age 5, a male age 5-10, a male age 30-40, a female age 10-15 and a female age 30-40. Thus, Claiborne Harris, s/o Elijah, had been married at least by 1820. It has been assumed that the Claiborne Harris who married Elizabeth Blanks in Patrick Co. in 1819 was the son of Sherod Harris. However, when that assumption was made, it was not known that there was another Claiborne Harris living in Patrick Co. in 1819. Given the fact that he was old enough to bond his sister’s marriage in 1805, Sherod’s son Claiborne would have been in his mid to late 30s by 1819. That certainly does not rule out the possibility that it was Sherod’s son who married Elizabeth Blanks, but as far as I know, it is not proved, either. We have several signatures of the Elijah Harris who married Nancy Lee in Halifax Co, VA in 1794: his own marriage record, the marriage record of his daughter Martha to Allen Morefield 1825 Patrick Co., an 1822 petition that he and son Barnard signed in Patrick Co. and his 1841 Wilson Co, TN will. Thompson Blanks of Rockingham Co, NC married Polly Harris in 1822 in Patrick Co., bonded by Elijah Harris. The signature of Elijah Harris on that bond does not match the other signatures just cited. The assumption has been that the Elijah who bonded that marriage was Sherod’s son, Elijah. And it may have been. However, as noted above, there were 3 Elijah Harrises in Patrick Co. in 1822. It should also be noted that although there were two Elijah Harrisses enumerated on the Patrick Co. PPTL 1817-1819, there were never 3 enumerated in any given year, and there was only one 1807-1816 and 1820-1827, and 1831. Since Elijah Harris of Russells Creek was in Wilson Co. by 1830 and Elijah Harris of Smith River had died before 1828, the Elijah Harris enumerated in 1831 on the same date as Claiborne Harris and was very likely the son of Sherod. Since Sherod’s 1814 will named his son Elijah as one of his younger children, it is possible that he did not become head of household until 1831, but given that Sherod’s son Claiborne does not appear to have been in Patrick Co. between 1821 and 1829, it is also possible that Elijah was also living elsewhere. In light of this data, I believe that we have to at least consider the possibility that the Claiborne Harris who married Elizabeth Blanks in 1819 Patrick Co, VA may have been Elijah and Nancy (Lee)’s son and not Sherod’s son. Elaine Campbell has found several documents in Wilson Co, TN that show Elijah and Claiborne Harris interacting there with members of a Blanks family. Further research is clearly needed. Surry Co, NC would probably be a good place to start that research, given that Sherod’s daughter, Martha/Patsy, married there and Sherod lived fairly close to Surry Co. As stated above, William, Elijah, and Barnard Harris came to Russells Creek, Patrick Co. in the very early 1800s from Halifax Co., VA, where they had lived on or in the vicinity of Difficult Creek. The deed of this William’s first purchase in Halifax Co. in 1778 refers to him as “William Harris of Amelia Co.” There was a William Harris in the Sandy Creek/Stocks Creek area of Amelia Co. (between Flatt Creek and the Appomattox River--not close to Deep Creek) in the years leading up to the appearance of this William Harris in the Northern District of Halifax Co. He was closely associated with the Hendricks and Vasser family in Amelia Co. In Halifax Co. he was closely associated with the Vasser and the Prindle/Pringle families, as well as a John Harris, James Harris and the Claiborne Harris who married Sally Hudson 1789 Charlotte Co. There was also a William Harris in the South District of Halifax Co., in the vicinity of Polecat Creek, Tobey Creek and Mirey Creek. I have seen no evidence that these two Harris families associated with one another. Some of the Hendricks of Amelia Co./Sandy Creek area moved to the Polecat Creek area of Halifax Co. I would appreciate any information or suggestions for research paths for this William Harris of Amelia Co. Pat Seaver (5th great-granddaughter of William Harris of Amelia/Halifax/Patrick)

I have not time at this time to read your longish e-mails, and, furthermore, I have delved into Lunenburg Co. deeds sometime ago, searching for another family, seemingly not connected to your Harris. If you believe there is a connection to Jeremiah Glenn, you might do some searches in Louisa Co., VA books and films. Here is the website of an author who had done a lots of excerpts of early Louisa Co. records plus a couple of books on early and later Hanover Co., where most of the records have burned. One of the mistakes we make in genealogy is researching only one area/county in Virginia, in particular. _http://www.angelfire.com/va3/redavis/_ (http://www.angelfire.com/va3/redavis/) When studying Louisa Co. you also have to take a look at Goochland Co. records and later those of Albemarle Co. records. Good luck! E.W.Wallace **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

the following charlotte co, va deed shows that land my mackerness goode, sr sold to james watkins bounded  his brother william goode and peter hamblin/ hamlin.   in fact, this is the charlotte co, va deed wherein my mackerness goode, sr, sold his land there in charlotte co, va ere his moving to laurens co, sc.   i have a follow-up to this charlotte co, va deed stating that land this james watkins later sold to mackerness goode, who was the son of william goode, had belonged to mackerness goode, the elder, who was now in south carolina.   these two deeds re my mackerness goode, sr, were sent to me years ago and when i was focusing on our families in laurens co, sc.  her husband was connected somehow to my goode family.  again, my paper files are a mess and i  still have only been able to find a portion of this  later deed, which i will also cite.   the following charlotte co, va deed also shows that in 1772 james watkins also sold land to peter hamblin, which was witnessed by m. goode and phillip jones.     this m./ mackerness goode, who witnessed this 1772 charlotte co, va deed was the son of william goode, brother of my mackerness goode, sr.   again, my mackerness goode, sr; his brother, william goode, etc were the sons of our samuel goode/ martha jones of henrico co, va and she was the daughter of phillip jones of henrico co, va and this was her brother phillip jones, jr, who had also moved to lunenburg co, va and who continued to be involved with my goode family there.   charlotte co, va deed book 3, page 47, 1772, james watkins of charlotte co, va to peter hamlin of same for 22 pds, 114 acres in charlotte co, va on the branches of sandy creek and bounded by stokes line on kings road, elam, hamlin's own line. signed:  james watkins.  witnesses: m. goode; phillip jones, his mark.   my mackerness goode, sr also signed with a mark.  again,  this m. goode, who witnessed this deed was the son of william goode, brother of my mackerness goode, sr.   again, here are the following deeds re my mackerness goode, sr, which someone sent to me years earlier.  she did not cite herself exactly which deed books they were in and i have not tried to find them.   although obviously interested in my goode family,  my focus has been more on my harris family, which has, indeed, been a challenge.   1766 Aug 4, Mackerness Goode of Cornwall Parrish, Charlotte co, VA to James Watkins of ? Parish for 1, 200 pds, 3, 241 acres in Charlotte Co on the branches of the Blue Stone Creek, Reynold Fork, Horsepen Creek, bounded by Mumford, Carrell, and William Goode, corner of Marable and Barnes, Peter Hamlin, Moody's branch, purchased by Mackerness Goode from William Goode by deed in Lunenburg Co, Va.   again, i have never found any deed in this lunenburg, etc, area showing that my william harris, sr/ frances goode sold land there, only that he, along with my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers; my mackerness goode, sr and our mackerness goode, jr; the cargills, etc, had obtained these ca 1770 grants in laurens co, sc.   3 jan 1792, james watkins of charlotte co, va to mackerness goode of same for 1200 pds, 1, 250 acres on both sides of the bluestone creek, part of a tract of land which the said watkins purchase of mack goode, the elder, late of this county and now a resident of the state of south carolina ( 27 june, 1764, patent to mackerness goode)..........   here is an earlier lunenburg co, va deed wherein my mackerness goode, sr sold land to reps osborne,  also showing that my mackerness goode, sr's patent was on both sides of the bluestone creek and, again, my mackerness goode, sr signed with a mark.   lunenburg co, va deed book 3, page 156, 1752, mackerness goode to reps osborne, both of lunenburg co, va, for 5 pds, 165 acres in lunenburg co, va on both sides of the bluestone creek, part of a larger patent to mackerness goode and bounded by the patent lines. signed:  mackerness goode, with a mark.  no witnesses. sarah, wife of mackerness goode, relinquished her right of dower.   this is also from kathryn wiggins:  harris papers: lunenburg co, va, which also cites this patent for my mackerness goode, sr, and says that it was on the bluestone and horsepen creeks:    lunenburg co, va patents and grants:  mackerness goode patents 3, 241 acres on bluestone and horsepen creeks, bounded by the lands of woods, carrel, william goode, phillip jones, peter hamlin, marable, barnes, moody's branch, part of it granted to mackerness goode 5 june 1747 and part never granted.   then, this is also from a site, which can be found on line re these  brunswick/ lunenburg co, va  patents, again, showing that my mackerness goode, sr actually had two patents and the first patent, in 1747, said to have been in brunswick/ lunenburg co, va was on both sides of the bluestone creek and the 2nd patent in 1764 was stated to have been on the branches of the bluestone creek and sandy creek.     354  Nehemiah Frank            10 Jul 1767     VPB 37:13     870a Charlotte/ on the Horsepen and Twitty's Creek        134  James Frankling           1 Jan 1745/46   DB 4 p51-55   567 acres near Cubb Creek        127  William Fuqua             1 Jan 1745/46   DB 4 p31-34   400a near Cubb Creek        350  David George              10 Jul 1766     VPB 36:983    125a Lunenburg/ on the brs. of Stanton River        421  Richard Giddian           8 Nov 1753      VPB 32:279    354a Lunenburg/ on the branches of Turnip Cr        302  Tyree Glenn               20 Aug 1760     VPB 33:872    253a Lunenburg/ on the branches of Twittys Cr.        397  Mack/Mark Goode           1 Sep 1782      CGB G:141     409a Charlotte/        208  Mackerness Goode          25 Jun 1747     VPB 28:109    1030a Brunswick/ on both sides of Bluestone Cr.        209  Mackness Goode            27 Jun 1764     VPB 35:497    3241a  Lunenburg/ on the branches of Blue Stone  Sandy Creek        247  William Goode             20 Sep 1751     VPB 31:56     2075a Lunenburg/ on both Sides of Bluestone Cr.    to be continued:   belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8---------26910              

i did not finish and would like to continue to also talk about these connections that connect this other samuel harris, wife, ann, with the claibornes; gideon moon; lodowick farmer, etc, and what these connections entail and also indicate.   again, like col/ rev samuel harris/ lucy camp, i cannot identify this samuel harris or his father but connections, again, like rev samuel harris, would indicate that he may have been related to my william harris, sr/ frances goode; william harris/ judith hudson; edward harris, sr, who were also there in this same lunenburg co, va area.   again, the two deeds which pat cited re this samuel harris, wife, ann, were the only two deeds i had had for him in the lunenburg co, va deeds book but, given, his association with the claibornes, etc, he is shown to have been the same samuel harris, wife, ann, who was in 1764 in henry blagrave's district per these lunenburg co, va tithe lists, etc.   again, this was henry blagrave's daughter anna blagrave, who married jeremiah glenn.  jeremiah glenn witnessed the 1765 mecklenburg co, va deed wherein my william harris, sr/ frances goode sold land to james hall.   again,  jeremiah glenn/ anna blagrave also moved to laurens co, sc where the laurens co, sc deeds show that my charles harris was involved there with their son william glenn.   the following deed, which i posted re the claibornes, which also involve them with this samuel harris, etc, shows that  daniel claiborne sold land to thomas hamblin, jr.   these lunenburg co, va deeds show that thomas hamblin, jr was related to and probably a brother of peter hamlin/ hamblin and they connect both peter hamblin and thomas hamblin, jr with both my william harris, sr/ frances goode and my goode family.   Deed Book VII:363 7 Sep 1762. Daniel CLAIBORNE to Thomas HAMBLIN Jr. in consideration of a mare and a year old colts and 1, 400 acres patented to CLAIBORNE 10 Aug 1759 bounded by Daniel MITCHELL. Witness: Everard DOWSING, Thos ERSKINE, Wm LEATON. here, again, is the lunenburg co, va deed wherein peter hamlin/ hamblin and benjamin ragsdale witnessed the 1761 lunenburg co, va deed re my william harris, sr/ frances goode to john smith.   then, the following l757 lunenburg co, va deed connects both peter hamblin and thomas hamblin, jr with my mackerness goode, sr and his brother william goode and also with the elams.   again, per the info, the elams there in lunenburg co, va, were the sons of john elam/ martha goode, sister of my mackerness goode, sr and his brother, william goode, children of our samuel goode/ martha jones of henrico co, va.   again, i cannot confirm this re the elams, but these lunenburg co, va deeds definitely show that the elams were  significantly involved there with my goode family.   in fact, these lunenburg co, va deeds show that william harris/ judith hudson sold land to joel elam, which was witnessed also by william goode, brother of my  mackerness goode, sr.   lunenburg co, va deed book 5, page 122, 1758, william harriss of lunenburg to joel elam of same for 21 pds, 71 acres on the upperside of the middle bluestone creek, bounded by trees. signed:  william harris.  witnesses:  william goode, augustine rowland, hugh mc vey.  judith, wife of william harris, relinquised her right of dower.   again, peter hamblin and thomas hamblin, jr are shown to have been involved with both my william harris, sr/ frances goode and my goode family.   lunenburg co, va deed book 6, page 528, 1761, william harris of lunenburg to john smith of amelia co, va for 200 pds, 400 acres on both sides of the middle fork of the bluestone creek and bounded by new lines.  signed:  william harriss.  witnesses:  abram crowder, peter hamlin, his mark, benjamin ragsdale.  frances, wife of william harris, relinquished her right of dower.   also this deed which connects both peter hamblin/ hamlin and thomas hamblin with my mackerness goode, sr; his brother william goode; and the elams.   lunenburg co, va deed book 5, page 48, 1757, edward elam of lunenburg co, va to william elam of same for 20 pds, 200 acres in lunenburg on the west or upper side of bluestone creek, being part of a larger patent to william goode and bounded by mackerness goode's line and the said william goode's patent line.  signed:  edward elam, his mark.  witnesses:  w. goode; peter (P) hamblin, his mark; thomas (T) hamblin, jr, his mark.    to be continued:   belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8-------26910

i also have to point out again or reiterate, and as part of these multi-involved, multi-layered connections that i keep talking about, that the same memucan hunt, who had the patent with samuel harris in this same bluestone creek area of lunenburg/ mecklenburg co, va where both my william harris, sr/ frances goode and william harris/ judith hudson lived and the same memucan hunt still, like rev samuel harris, associated with this same grassy creek area of granville co, nc, was the same memucan hunt who sylvanus walker, jr chose as his guardian.   again, this was the same sylvanus walker, son of tandy walker/ judith langford of lunenburg co, va who was called sylvanus walker, jr there, who also moved to laurens co, sc and who became sylvanus walker, sr there.   again, it was this sylvanus walker, sr's son, sylvanus walker, jr in laurens co, sc who was one of the appraisers of my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers 1800 laurens co, sc estate sale and it was also sylvanus walker, sr's son memucan walker, named for memucan hunt, who witnessed our patrick cunningham/ ann harris' 1796 laurens co, sc will.   here again is the info where sylvanus walker chose memucan hunt as his guardian.     to me these are important and very relevant connections and, once again, these connections are also a lot more involved.   1754, Feb Court. Silvanus Walker orphan of Tandy Walker, dec'd, came into court and (being of lawful age for that purpose) made choice of Memucan Hunt to be his guardian who is accordingly appointed (he giving security) whereupon he together with Thomas Anderson his security, entered into & acknowledge their bond and that purpose. Lunenburg Co VA Court Order Book 1/2B, 1753-54: 530. 1756, August Court. Memucan Hunt, guardian of Silvanus Walker, orphan of Tandy Walker, dec'd, exhibited and made oath to an account of the said orphan's estate which passed the court and the same is ordered to be recorded. Lunenburg Co VA Court Order Booke 4, 1755-57:170 1759, Aug Court. Silvanus Walker, junior by Memucan Hunt, his guardian and next friend, Pltf vs Thomas Dendy, Deft. Lunenburg Co VA Court Order book 6:23     belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8---------26910

again, samuel harris, who had this patent in lunenburg co, va with memucan hunt, is the same samuel harris, who became col samuel harris/ rev samuel harris.   again, both memucan hunt and rev samuel harris are shown to have also both been involved with this same grassy creek area of mecklenburg co, va/ granville co, nc with connections re the knight family also of lunenburg/ granville co, nc who are indicated to have also been the same knight family also associated with richard harris/ priscilla holmes also there in granville co, nc.   so, again, when this history of the grassy creek baptist church says that rev samuel harris was the brother of this richard harris and charles harris, who were members of the grassy creek,  just which richard harris and charles harris does this refer to?   col samuel harris/ rev samuel harris stated that he was born in 1724 near the pamunkey river in hanover co, va.   this is indicated to have been the same samuel harris, who william harris/ judith hudson sold the island/ plantation to in 1748 in lunenburg co, va, which was witnessed by john cargill, sr/ rachel tinsley.   again, samuel harris continued to be very involved with john cargill, sr/ rachel tinsley in this halifax cos, va area and by 1770 john cargill, sr/ rachel tinsley had also moved to laurens co, sc where their cargill family continued to be very involved with my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers and my mackerness goode, sr's sons, our mackerness goode, jr and samuel goode, per info i have posted in the past.    again, these connections are just more involved period.   samuel harris, who, as stated, became a noted early baptist mininister preached at the grassy creek baptist church in granville co, nc, which, as shown, per the info below, was about two miles from lunenburg/ mecklenburg co, va.   again, as shown, memucan hunt, who had been involved with samuel harris in lunenburg co, va, had also moved to this same grassy creek area of granville co, nc, which was in close proximity to mecklenburg co, va.   this is info from this history of the grassy creek baptist church:   The Origin of Grassy Creek Baptist Church, with some Interesting Incidents connected with its Early History Some of the first permanent settlements effected in Granville county, North Carolina, were along the Northern border on Grassy Creek, near the Virginia line. It appears that a considerable number of the early colonists in this region were Baptists, or Baptists in sentiment. They soon began to hold meetings and at length built a house [a large frame building] for divine worship, and named it Grassy Creek, after the water course -- a tributary of the Roanoke River -- on which it was located. The Meeting House is situated in the northern part of Granville, sixteen miles from Oxford, the county seat, and some two miles from the line of Mecklenburg county in Virginia. the info goes one to say that two of the members richard harris and charles harris of the grassy creek baptist church were brothers of col/ rev samuel harris.   so, which richard harris and which charles harris of granville co, nc were the brothers of col/ rev samuel harris and who was their father in hanover co, va?   " Rev. Samuel Harris, usually called Col Harris, a man of wealth, ability and high social position, who resided in Pittsylvania county, Virginia, not far from the land of Birch Creek (commonly called Kentuck) Baptist meeting-house, some sixty miles from this place, (Grassy Creek) entered the ministry in 1759, but owing to some peculiar views which he entertained respecting ordination, he refused to be set apart to the ministerial office till 1769.    In 1765, Mr. Harris went down into Orange and Spottsylvania counties, Virginia, on a preaching excursion. His labors were greatly blessed in awakening attention to the subject of religion, and in leading precious souls to Christ. "He continued many days, preaching from place to place, attended by great crowds, and followed throughout his meetings by several person who had been either lately converted, or seriously awakened under the ministry of others, and also by many who had been alarmed by his own labors.   "When Mr. Harris left them he advised some in whom he discovered talents to commence the exercise of their gifts, and to hold meetings among themselves. They took his advise and began to hold meetings every Sabbath, and almost every night in the week, taking a tobacco house for their meeting house. After proceeding in this way for some time, they resolved to send for Mr. Harris, in order to procure his services, to preach and baptize now converts.   Sometime in the year 1766, Elijah Craig and two others traveled to Mr. Harris' house, but they found to their surprise that he had not been ordained to the administration of ordinances. To remedy this inconvenience, he carried them about sixty miles into North Carolina to Elder James Reed, by whom he (Mr. Craig) was ordained" (see Benedict's History of the Baptists, p. 648)   >From the best information that I have been able to obtain in regard to this affair, referred to above, it appears that Mr. Harris conducted this party that came from Spottsylvania county, Virginia, to Grassy Creek, where they were received by experience and baptism into the fellowship of the church. Mr. Craig, one of the party, had, from the time of his conversion, although unapprised and without church relations, been exercising his gifts in exhortation, and in proclaiming to his fellow men the glad tidings of salvation. He was not only baptized, but was also, at the same time, by the authority of this church, solemnly and publicly set apart to the full work of the gospel ministry, by Elders James Reed and (supposed to be) Dutton Lane.    Mr. Reed, the pastor of this church, and some of its members with Mr. Harris, by urgent solicitations, accompanied these brethren back, to receive and baptize converts, and establish a branch of this church in Spottsylvania county, Va.      By the way, two of the most prominent and influential members of this church at that time were brothers of Col. Harris -- Richard and Charles Harris. The former was an elder or deacon, and the latter its clerk for many years; -- and as they were men of means and standing, it is probable that one or both of them were in the delegation.      And after making the necessary preparations, they set out on their journey of nearly two hundred miles. Accordingly, in due time, they reached the place of destination, and commenced their labors with remarkable success. Elder Reed baptized nineteen on the first day of his arrival, and more on the day following. Prosperity smiled upon them, and God so abundantly blessed their efforts in building up the Redeemer's cause, that on the 20th of November, 1767, the brethren in Spottsylvania were regularly constituted into a Baptist church, which was called Upper Spottsylvania, but now Craig's church, which has stood until the present time, and has become the mother of many churches. "       belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8--------26910

again, this same memucan hunt involved with col/ rev samuel harris moved to granville co, nc and lived in this same grassy creek area, which is also where rev samuel harris preached at this grassy creek baptist church and this is also indicated to have been the same jonathan knight family involved with memucan hunt, who was also involved with richard harris/ priscilla holmes.     here again, are the deeds that involve memucan hunt with this john knight/ jonathan knight family of lunenburg co, va and granville co, nc.   Deed Book E, pgs 259 & 260 Feb 15, 1762 - John Knight of Lunenburg Co., VA to Memucan Hunt for 60 pds., 300 acres on Grassy Creek in Granville Co., N. C. Wts: Jonathan Knight, John Wade, William Knight. Deed Book E, pgs 260 & 261 Feb 25, 1762 - John Knight of Lunenburg Co., VA to William Knight of Granville Co., N. C. for 10 pds., 300 acres on Grassy Creek in Granville Co., N. C. Wts: Memucan Hunt, John Wade, Jonathan Knight. Deed Book E, pg 262 & 263 Feb 25, 1762 - John Knight of Lunenburg Co., VA to Jonathan Knight of Granville Co., N. C. for 10 pds., 300 acres on both sides of Grassy Creek whereon Jonathan Knight lives in a dividing line between Charles Knight and William Knight and Memucan Hunt in Granville Co., N. C. Wts: M. Hunt, John Wade, William Knight. was this, then, the same jonathan knight, who was associated with memucan hunt who was also mentioned in the will of richard harris/ priscilla holmes?   as i have talked about previously, these connections re richard harris/ priscilla holmes and the lunenburg co, va families are more relevantly involved as well.    this was the same satterwhite family, re richard harris to michael satterwhite, who were not only there in lunenburg co, va and associated, again, with the same individuals and families of interest re my william harris, sr/ frances goode and william harris/ judith hudson, but this was the same satterwhite family of granville co, va re bartlett satterwhite and my mackerness goode, sr's son samuel goode, son-in-laws of joseph davenport who moved from granville co, nc to newberry co, sc.    the satterwhites also moved to laurens/ newberry cos, sc and, again, the connections are also more involved with the satterwhites there as well.  again, the michael mckie and daniel mckie family i have talked about and the relevance of their connections, were also very involved with the satterwhites in newberry co, sc   on and on there are these connections that indicate to me that, like samuel harris/ lucy camp, that, at least,  some of this harris family in granville co, nc like richard harris/ priscilla holmes, may have been part of our captain thomas harris/ harris dna group 8 harris line and family.   again, in order to totally solve these issues of kinship, we really need to find harris descendants to participate in the harris dna project but, sorry to say, that does not seem to be proving to be an easy task at this point.   again, my question for now is:    when this grassy creek baptist history says that richard harris and charles harris were the brothers of col/ rev samuel harris, which richard harris and charles harris does this  history refer to and who were members of this grassy creek baptist church there in granville co, nc?     here are granville co, nc deeds, etc, for richard harris/ priscilla holmes.   Jun. 4, 1755 - Richard Harris and wife Priscilla to John Norwood. On Matthews Branch adjacent Tarrys Corner, granted Oct. 6, 1754. Wit. Robert Caller, Joseph Glover. (Granville Co., NC Deeds 1746-1805, Bk B pg 460)     Aug. 29, 1755 Samuel Benton, Esq. to Richard Harris 40 pds. 260 acres on Tar River. Wit. William  Bledsoe, Nathan Grimes. (Granville Co., NC Deeds  1746-1805 Bk B pg 481-482)      Feb. 7, 1757 - Richard Harris & Priscilla his wife  to Mich'l Satterwhite of Lunenburg Co., VA 860 acres on Goss Br. at Richard Harris' corner, on Island Creek which was granted to Harris Apr. 28, 1753. (Granville Co., NC Deeds C pg 325)      Nov. 4, 1761 - Richard Harris and Priscilla, his wife, and Nathaniel Harris and Mary, his wife, of  Granville Co., NC to John Taylor the elder. L150. N S of Goss Branch. Wit. Abra. Cook, James Mitchell, John Williams. (Granville Co.,  NC Deeds 1746-1805 Bk E pg 71)      Nov. 23, 1766 - Richard Harris to his son John. Gift of land. (Granville Co., NC Deeds 1746-1805 Bk H pg 6) Oct. 3, 1774 - Richard and Priscilla Harris  sell to John Young, 132 acres on Shewmarrow Creek. (Granville Co., NC Deeds 1746-1805 Bk K pg 237)       May 1787 - Richard Harris, wife Priscilla, sons  Richard, Charles (land on Cattail Creek), Samuel (land on W side Owen Creek), and Tyre (land on E  side Owen Creek) daus Jemima Ford, Molly Beardon, Lucy Parker, Mary Harris. Will dated Mar. 30, 1785, proved May Court 1787. Benjamin Beardon, son Samuel  Harris & wife, exers.    Note: The will includes a bequest to son John Harris which is stricken through. (Pg 11 Granville Co., NC Will Bk 2) Jan. 30, 1790 - Samuel Harris, son of Robert Harris, dec'd to Samuel Harris, son of Richard Harris. (Granville Co., NC Deeds 1764-1805 Bk O) Oct. 17, 1805 - Benjamin Bearden and Priscilla Harris, exec of Richard Harris, dec'd, to Jonathan Knight of Franklin Co., NC. (Granville Co., NC Deeds 1746-1805 Bk S pg 217)    to be continued:     belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8-------26910    

yes, and i am very interested in this grassy creek area of mecklenburg co, va and granville co, nc  re rev samuel harris/ lucy camp and memucan hunt.   again, samuel harris and memucan hunt had a 1757 patent there in lunenburg co, va in this same bluestone creek area where both my william harris, sr/ frances goode and william harris/ judith hudson lived, which, again, was adjacent either my mackerness goode, sr or his brother william goode and also john wilborn and, again, both my william harris, sr/ frances goode and william harris, sr/ frances goode were involved with the will and estate of john wilborn there in lunenburg co, va.   as shown, land my william harris, sr/ frances goode sold to roger atkinson. which had belonged to john wilborn was in this very same bluestone creek area re this patent for samuel harris and memucan hunt.   this, again, is the same samuel harris, who, like my william harris, sr/ frances goode and william harris/ judith hudson, etc, were early in cornelius cargill's district, which became halifax co, ca and, again, samuel harris, as shown, continued to be very involved there with john cargill, sr/ rachel tinsley, who by 1770 had also moved to laurens co, sc where their cargill family continued to be significantly involved with my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers and my mackerness goode, sr's sons, our mackerness goode, jr and samuel goode.   again, it is this same samuel harris, who became col samuel harris and, then, the noted baptist minister, rev samuel harris/ lucy camp, who, died in 1799 in pittsylvania co, va.   memucan hunt, who married mary wade, daughter of robert wade, sr, who, again, was the same robert wade, sr and andrew wade, sr family both involved with samuel harris; my william harris, sr/ frances goode; william harris/ judith hudson; and edward harris, sr, per the info i have cited recently and previously, moved to granville co, nc and lived in this same grassy creek area, which e.w. refers to.   samuel harris preached in this same area at this grassy creek baptist church.  again, samuel harris told the noted baptist historian that he was born near the pamunkey river in 1724 in hanover co, va.   the history of this grassy creek baptist church says that this richard harris and charles harris, who were long time members of this grassy creek baptist church, were the brothers of rev samuel harris/ lucy camp.   so, which charles harris and richard harris is this info referring to and who was the father of this col/ rev samuel harris/ lucy camp and this richard harris/ charles harris of granville co, nc???     here is the info showing that memucan hunt was in this grassy creek area of granville co, nc and associates him there with this knight  family.     this is also indicated to be the same knight family associated with richard harris/ priscilla holmes, per granville co, nc deeds i will also cite.   From: "Carolyn M. Getting" < [email protected]> Subject: RE: [KNIGHT-TIMES-L] Granville Co., NC Jonathan Knight, Chalres Knight & William Knight Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 23:57:08 -0500 Abstracts of Granville County Deeds, 1746-1765 Compiled by Zae Hargett Gwynn, edited by Joseph W. Watson The Reprint Company, Publishers Spartanburg, South Carolina, 1993 Deed Book E, pgs 259 & 260 Feb 15, 1762 - John Knight of Lunenburg Co., VA to Memucan Hunt for 60 pds., 300 acres on Grassy Creek in Granville Co., N. C. Wts: Jonathan Knight, John Wade, William Knight. Deed Book E, pgs 260 & 261 Feb 25, 1762 - John Knight of Lunenburg Co., VA to William Knight of Granville Co., N. C. for 10 pds., 300 acres on Grassy Creek in Granville Co., N. C. Wts: Memucan Hunt, John Wade, Jonathan Knight. Deed Book E, pg 262 & 263 Feb 25, 1762 - John Knight of Lunenburg Co., VA to Jonathan Knight of Granville Co., N. C. for 10 pds., 300 acres on both sides of Grassy Creek whereon Jonathan Knight lives in a dividing line between Charles Knight and William Knight and Memucan Hunt in Granville Co., N. C. Wts: M. Hunt, John Wade, William Knight. Edward P. Valentine Papers, Vol III, Woodson Family, pg 1909. "Jonathan Knight & Judith his wife, Granville Co.,  North Carolina, Archer Pledge & Anna his wife, Goochland Co., John Redford & Unita his wife, Henrico Co., Pleasant Turner & Agatha his wife  Halifax Co. and Perrin Redford & Susannah his wife,  Goochland Co. and Thomas Woodson & Mary his wife, of the county of Goochland, (the above are daughters of Joseph Woodson, of Genito and their husbands) to Joseph Woodson son & heir of Joseph Woodson, of Genito, 325 a. of land on the  Creek and branches of Beaver Dam Creek in Goochland Co. This deed is made  to correct an error in Joseph Woodson's will. He intended to give his son  Joseph the 325 a. land mentioned above. Dated Oct 25, 1790. Goochland Records, Vol 15, pg 79. Ibid. pg 1915. Judith Knight widow & relict of Jonathan Knight, decd., of the county of Granville in the state of  North Carolina to Joseph Woodson of Goochland Co.  whereas Joseph Woodson the elder, late of Jenito Creek in the county of Goochland by his last will and testament dated the 7th day of October 1783 after other gifts & legacies by him devised did  bequeath unto his daughters then living all the residue & remainder of his  estate not before given away among which was including all his real estate consisting of 325 a. of land on the Jenito Creek & branches of Beaver Dam in the sd. county, butnot withstanding the aforesaid residuary gift, be it  known that I, Judith Knight being one of the daughters of the sd. Joseph Woodson the elder, and being sensible that my deceased father did always intend his real estate should after his death descend to his son Joseph  Woodson all which appears manifest to me by his bequeathing to him a very small portion of his other estate and that the will is defective in that respect through default in the writer and not from any intention in him, doth grant unto the sd Joseph Woodson, son & heir of Joseph Woodson, decd. 325 a.  of land, more or less, in the county of Goochland.  Dated Oct 8, 1812. Goochland Records Vol 20, pg 361.   to be continued:     belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8-------26910

Lunenburg Co., Virginia, where Belva has centered much of her research, was formed in 1745 from Brunswick County. Brunswick Co. in turn was formed Formed in 1720 from Prince George County. Parts of Surry and Isle of Wight counties were added later. Perhaps more research for Harrises and their colleagues should be concentrated in the above named counties. But also in the counties formed from Lunenburg Co., such as Mecklenburg Co., and even Granville Co. NC. A distant cousin pointed out to me that Grassey Creek was not only in Virginia (Mecklenburg Co.) but also in Granville Co., NC. This occurred when I noted a daughter and an aunt of some of our colonial ancestors was *wheeling and dealing* as a widow, in land along Grassey Creek in Mecklenburg Co. Her son, to whom she willed a piece of property in Mecklenburg, is found in records in both Granville Co. and in Mecklenburg Co. He died testate in the latter county, and the probate records are rather numerous. Some pointers I have received from skilled professionals: 1) Note the associates of your families - which Belva has done quite well. (These were probably in-laws, or might soon be.) 2. Note the watercourses on which their land was held. Check out all the neighbors, which you can generally get from the land recods. (See 1 above) 3. If researching in Virginia, research in all the counties. The counties kept dividing, and, furthermore, with so many burnt counties in Virginia, one might stumble on an ancestor or a collateral in another county. Tobacco wore out the land, historians tell us, and new land was desirable. Caveat: Do NOT assume that persons of the same name are the same person, and may not even be related. This is especially so with families with common surnames, and I have plenty of those. Researching in Virginia is challenging, to say the least. Beginning with the land patents which are online at .http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/land/index.htm is a good beginning. But, if available to you, also check the published lists in the eight volumes of Cavaliers and Pioneers. The oldest volumes by Nell Marion Nugent may be on the shelves at your local library. The indexes in C&P also index the creeks, runs, paths, roads, counties, etc. The oldest land patents (or grants, as they are called in Northern Neck Virginia) are at the ends of the list, with the newest patents at the beginning. So skip to the end of the list, in the case of a common surname Harris!!! Also, if one has access to the online genealogical database HeritageQuest through your local [or nearby] public library, do a book search for PLACE - Lunenburg and Mecklenburg Counties, Virginia. You may want to get some instructions from the librarian as to how to search, unless you are really a techie!!! Two books by Landon Covington Bell concerning Lunenburg Co. and Mecklenburg Cos. are on HQ. As I remember, they were rather useful to me. Bell, as I recall, gives some history of those counties, and I seem to remember seeing some tithable lists. It has been years since I have looked at his books--and found *stuff* of interest to me. E.W.Wallace **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

i have a lot to say even about this first deed wherein lydall bacon sold land to daniel claiborne and the connections that stem from lydall bacon, etc.   Deed Book III:80 13 Dec 1751. Lyddall BACON to Daniel CLAIBORNE of King William Co., 150, 300 acres in Lunenburg, bounded by north side of Couches Crk. Wit: Peter FOUNTAINE Jr., John BACON, Drury ALLEN.     per this first deed wherein lydall bacon sold land to daniel claiborne, which was witnessed by john fontaine, jr, again, this was lydall bacon's daughter lucy bacon, who married charles allen, jr, and they were the parents of mary/ polly allen who married in laurens co, sc our john l. harris, brother of my charles harris/ jane cannon, sons of my william harris, jr/frances rodgers, who died in 1799 in laurens co, sc, son of my william harris, sr/ frances goode of lunenburg co, va.   again, charles allen, jr had also moved to laurens co, sc by 1774 and he sold his grant there in laurens co, sc to nehemiah franks.     this was the same nehemiah franks who had also been on twitty's creek in lunenburg/ charlotte co, va and who was involved there also with edward harris, sr and his sons.   of course, again, these were also edward harris, sr's sons, stephen harris and edward harris, jr, who also moved to laurens co, sc and, again, descendants of edward harris, sr are a harris dna group 8 match.   again, per the laurens co, sc deeds, and all of this i have posted in the past, james mc laughlin witnessed laurens co, sc deeds re nehemiah franks and this was james mc laughlin's son, john mc laughlin who married our sarah goode harris ca 1798 in laurens co, sc and who was the sister of my charles harris/ jane cannon; our john l. harris/ mary/ polly allen.   again, lydall bacon witnessed young stokes 1769 lunenburg co, va will and he was the father of sylvanus stokes, who died in pittsylvania co, va, and it was his son allen stokes/ martisha may, who witnessed and proved samuel harris/ lucy camp's 1799 pittsylvania co, va will.   in regard to peter fontaine, jr, he was also involved with the same robert wooding, who was also involved with my william harris, sr and william harris, jr per this 1750 dodson survey for this land on wynn creek, which is now in halifax co, va.    again, robert wooding also witnessed anumber of these other lunenburg co, va deeds re my william harris, sr/ frances goode, including one of these deeds re this same wynn creek land my william harris, sr/ frances goode sold to john camp.   again, it is this 1750 dodson survey for this land on wynn creek  that definitely shows that willliam harris/ judith hudson was the father of my william harris, sr/ frances goode.   william hudson, son of peter hudson, sr, who was also the father of judith hudson harris, sold land to peter fontaine, sr or jr per the following deed.   lunenburg co, va deed book 5, page 315, 1758, william hudson of lunenburg co, va to peter fontaine of hanover co, va for 100 pds, 400 acres on the north side of the staunton river and upper side of buffalo creek, being part of a tract of 3, 280 acres of land granted to peter hudson, sr, decd, august 24, 1754 and bounded by peter fontaine, new lines, benasas branch.  signed: william hudson, his mark.  no witnesses.   again, this is indicated to have been the same william hudson, who my william harris, sr/ frances goode sold land to in this same middle fork of the bluestone creek area.   again, this is also indicated to have been the same william hudson, who, as shown, was the son of peter hudson, sr, who was also one of the executors of william harris/ judith hudson's 1778 mecklenburg co, va will; the same william hudson, whose daughter ursula married james poole in 1782 in mecklenburg co, va and who moved with her father, william hudson, also to laurens co, sc.   again, all of this i have talked about and posted previously. as indicated, per the following/ next deed, clement reade sold land to leonard claiborne, jr and per this deed also, to follow, both clement reade, sr and jr and paul carrington witnessed the following lunenburg co, va deed re my william harris, sr/ frances goode to gray briggs.   Deed Book IV:534 4 Aug 1757. Clement READ to Leonard CLAIBORN Jr. of Dinwiddie Co., 5, 100 acres in Cumberland Parish in Lunenburg, being part of the land CLEMENT purchased of Robert BOWEN. No witness.   lunenburg co, va deed book 6, page 216, sept 3, 1760, william harris and wife, frances, to gray briggs, attorney, for 200 pds 400 acres on middle fork of bluestone creek, patent to  brunskill. wit:  clement reade, jr; p. carrington; clement reade.   frances, wife of william harris, relinquished her right of dower.     lunenburg co, va deed book 6, nov 5, 1760, page 260, gray briggs of dinwiddie co, va to william harris of lunenburg for  200 pds, 400 acres on both sides of the middle fork of the bluestone creek, which land was conveyed by lunenburg co,  va deed sept 3 in the year aforesaid by the said william harriss to the said gray briggs.  no witnesses.     again, gray briggs was the son of howell briggs/ lucy gray and, again, per the following info, this was his sister, mary briggs,  who married in 1757 in sussex co, va a younger halcott pride than the halcott pride, who was the first husband of martha,  who re-married peter hudson, sr ca 1723 in henrico co, va and,  of course, peter hudson, sr was the father of judith hudson  harris.   WILLIAM AND MARY COLLEGE QUARTERLY. Vol. 22, No. 4                                                 SUSSEX COUNTY.                                                MARRIAGE BONDS.    27 Nov., 1757, Halcott Pride, of Dinwiddie Co., & Mary Briggs, spinster, dau. of Capt. Howell Briggs.  Sec. Henry Woodcock (of Sussex). Howell Briggs' letter of consent.    again, gray briggs married dorothy pleasants and this was her same pleasants family involved with our captain thomas harris/ major william harris family and our related mary harris ligon  family in henrico co, va.   again, both my william harris, sr/ frances goode and william harris/ judith hudson were involved with the will and estate of  john wilborn from 1757-1762 in lunenburg co, va and gray briggs was also one of those paid by the estate of john wilborn and also clement reade.   in 1762, the estate of john wilborn, deceased, is brought to court by william harris, the executor, and the estate paid out to: john cox; hampton wade; roger atkinson; jacob royster; pinkethman hawkins; clement reade; gray briggs; william newsum; william harris; john ragsdale; mackerness goode, jr for re-surveying john wilborn's land; david garland.   to be continued:   belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8--------26910