james   thanks for your reply but i must say my own recent post re bill harris being a match with your harris dna group 30 rather than our harris dna group 8 was not intended to be at all confrontational with you or any one but solely my astonishment at how this worked out.   of course, my/ our harris line and family is documented.  i have, of course, talked about this a lot on harris hunters and all my posts include documentation.   your confrontation, however, does give me the opportunity to kind of sum all of this up.   again, per a brief harris family history written in 1933 by my father's great-uncle, william abraham (abe) harris, i knew that our harris and carter families had moved into ga together and that they settled in cobb/ paulding cos, ga.   he said north carolina but i learned from the 1850 census records for cobb/ paulding co, ga that they were all born in south carolina and thanks to my robert carter, jr, i now know for sure that it was laurens co, sc.   uncle abe's harris and carter family history states that our robert carter, jr was the father of our elizabeth carter harris, wife of my arch harris.     his version i have, and may have been others, does not say who our arch harris' father was but the records both in cobb/ paulding co, ga and laurens co, sc connect my robert carter, jr and my arch harris with our charles harris/ jane cannon and their family, including the fact that this was also our charles harris/ jane cannon's daughter lucinda harris, who married james carter, brother of my/ our elizabeth carter harris.   i also know that our robert carter, jr was involved with the estate of his nephew robert carter, son of his oldest brother zimry carter, there in laurens co, sc, which shows that our arch harris married our elizabeth carter in laurens co, sc before families moved by 1830 to gwinnett co, ga.   the estate papers for this nephew, robert carter, state that our robert carter, jr had " left his receipts with zimry carter which were examined there in  january of 1830 in laurens co, sc."    per the 1830 census gwinnett co, ga, our arch harris/ elizabeth carter already had two children under the age of five, who were their oldest daughter, rachel caroline harris, who later married zachariah austin and their oldest son, abraham harris, who later married mary cohron and who in 1860 were in cleburne co, al.   their son, my james harris/ anne cooper was born in 1831 in gwinnett co, ga and died in 1872 in paulding co, ga.   the laurens co, sc records show that my charles harris was one of the sons of our william harris, jr/ frances rodgers, who died in 1799 in laurens co, sc.    our william harris, jr's laurens co, sc estate papers show that  our charles harris was his son and also a laurens co, sc deed connects our charles harris with his mother, our frances rodgers harris, per  a deposition she gave re our william harris, jr/ frances rodgers purchasing land for his brother-in-law, patrick cunningham.   early on in my research in laurens co, sc, i corresponded with mary mc laughlin aikman and learned from her that her sarah "goode" harris, sister of my charles harris, had married her john mc laughlin before 1800 there in laurens co, sc.   her john mc laughlin served as the administrator of the estate of our william harris, jr/ frances rodgers.   actually,  both my/ our charles harris and john mc laughlin had applied for letters of administration, although john mc laughlin is shown to have served primarily as the administrator.   the fact that her sarah was named sarah "goode" harris mc laughlin is on her tombstone in perry co, al.  a long process has shown me that it was not our william harris, jr's wife who was named frances goode but his father, our william harris, sr's wife, frances.   a laurens co, sc deed, cited in the past, states that my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers was the son of our william harris, sr/ frances goode and these early laurens co, sc grants  also show that my william harris, sr/ frances goode; his son, my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers; our mackerness goode, sr; and his son, our mackerness goode, jr, as well as the cargills, etc, all obtained these ca 1770 grants in this same little river area of laurens co, sc and that they, and my rodgers family, had moved there from this south-side va  lunenburg co, va, etc, area.   again, the records of lunenburg co, va, show that my william harris, sr/ frances goode was the overseer in 1746 for william marable there in lunenburg co, va for his plantation, finneywood.     again, a suit ensued re my william harris, sr/ frances goode with william marable and my goode family, including my mackerness goode, sr, gave depositions re this suit.   both these  lunenburg co, va  and laurens co, sc records connect my william harris, sr/ frances goode with edward harris, sr and his sons, stephen harris and edward harris, jr, who also moved to laurens co, sc, but, again, it was not until both our harris descendants participated in the harris dna project that i knew that we were definitely related to edward harris, sr and his sons.   again, i have also told you before, i have not focused on edward harris, sr and someone who has and who descends from him will have to answer you in regard to your confrontations about him and his sons, etc.   again, whereas as shown, my william harris, sr/ frances goode obtained this ca 1770,  300-acre grant in laurens co, sc, which became the property of my william harrris, jr/ frances rodgers, there is no evidence that my william harris, sr/ frances goode ever moved to laurens co, sc.   also, whereas these lunenburg co, va deeds/ records connect my william harris, sr/ frances goode indirectly with edward harris, sr, they directly connect my william harris, sr/ frances goode and my goode family with william harris,/ judith hudson, including the fact that all were in cornelius cargill' s district in 1749/ 1750 per these early lunenburg co, va tithe lists.   again, both my william harris, sr/ frances goode and william harris/ judith hudson were involved with the will and estate of john wilborn from 1757-1762 there in lunenburg co, va, etc, and there are other involved connections i have talked about as well both in regard to my willliam harris, sr/ frances goode being involved there with my mackerness goode, sr and william harris/ judith hudson.   finally, there is now this 1750 dodson survey showing that william harris, sr and william harris, jr had this survey for this land on wynn creek in halifax co, va, which bordered on the sizemores and anthony griffin, and which became a patent to my william harris, sr/ frances goode in 1758, which he sold, per several halifax co, va deeds and in several tracts to john camp.   this wynn creek area of halifax co, va would have been in cornelius cargill's district and my william harris, sr/ frances goode and william harris/ judith hudson were the only william harrises who were in cornelius cargill's district in 1750.    speaking also of the cargills, it was this cornelius cargill's grandson, cornelius cargill, son of john cargill, sr/ rachel tinsley, who paid the tax/ memorial for my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers' 150-acre grant there in 1772 in laurens co, sc and our mackerness goode, jr, who paid the tax/ memorial for cornelius cargill's 1767, 400-acre grant also there in laurens co, sc.   then, my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers and his uncle samuel goode, along with cornelius cargill's widow, sarah, paid the security re the estate of cornelius cargill in 1780 in this 96th dist/ laurens co, sc area.   again, my/ our harris line and family is documented and, again, i have talked a lot about and posted this info on harris hunters.   finally, of course, our harris line and family is also definitely documented per our harris dna and i hope that these links i have talked about and shown re these documented connections will continue to be totally confirmed in time per our harris dna as well.   again, i am very astonished that bill harris tested into your harris dna group 30 instead of our harris dna group 8, given that his ancestor robert harris was living there in 1860 in cleburne co, al in proximity to my arch harris/ elizabeth carter's son, abraham harris, etc.   of course, i definitely hope bill will learn how he fits into your harris dna group 30 just as i hope we all learn who our harris families and our harris ancestors were as, again, this has been and continues to be a long, hard, and involved process for many of us.     sincere regards,     belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8---------26910          

This is one of the research projects of Harris DNA group 30. We are attempting to find the ancestry of Robert B. Harris, who were in Georgia in the late 1700's and in Benton County, Alabama by 1840 and Robert is later found in Calhoun and DeKalb County, Alabama. The enclosed descendancy chart for Robert B. Harris includes his family, children and some of the grandchildren. If anyone recognizes any of these Harris or has information of any of this family, we would love to hear from you. Sincerely, James E. Hargraves Harris DNA group 30. ____________________________________ From: JEH7698 To: [email protected], PatCLARE, [email protected], [email protected] Sent: 10/1/2008 11:48:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time Subj: Re: Josiah & Tabitha (Harris) Tuck Pat, Pat, Sandy and Bill, I have enclosed a descendancy chart for Robert B. Harris, the earliest known ancestor of Bill Harris. According to the 1880 census, Robert B. Harris was born 1816 in Georgia and his parents were also born in Georgia. A birth year of 1816 would seem to indicate that Robert's father was born 1796 or before. I have completed some additional research of our Edward Harris line from Burke County, North Carolina, who migrated to Georgia by 1794. This extended family owned land and resided in Columbia, Oglethorpe and Greene Counties from 1794 to 1850 and beyond. In an attempt to connect Robert B. Harris to this family line, I have recorded that Edward Harris had 4 sons, by two wives, of whom, the 4 sons of Edward and the 2 sons of David Harris are the only males who could possibly be the father of Robert B. Harris in this line. Unfortunately, none of them fit the profile as follows; David Harris, died 1808, had no sons named Robert. Edward Harris Jr. (3rd) migrated to Pendleton County, South Carolina, never entered Georgia. Gilliam Harris married in 1819, had no sons 1819 to 1830. Seaborn Harris married in 1823, had no sons 1823 to 1830. Edward Harris, (son of David), had no sons named Robert. John Harris, (son of David), had no sons named Robert. It seems possible that the John Harris found as neighbor to Josiah Tuck in 1800 Oglethorpe County, Georgia could be the father or grandfather of Robert B. Harris. I will continue to pursue this lead. Descendants of Robert B. Harris Generation No. 1 1. ROBERT B.1 HARRIS was born 1816 in Georgia. He married EMALINE. She was born 1820 in South Carolina. Children of ROBERT HARRIS and EMALINE are: i. MARSUSA2 HARRIS. ii. WILLIAM HARRIS. iii. ELIZABETH HARRIS. 2. iv. JAMES HARRIS, b. 1847, Alabama; d. 1874. v. SARAH A. HARRIS, b. 1852. 3. vi. ROBERT HARRIS, b. 1853. vii. ABRAHAM HARRIS. viii. SUSANNAH HARRIS. ix. NANCY HARRIS, b. 1860. Generation No. 2 2. JAMES2 HARRIS (ROBERT B.1) was born 1847 in Alabama, and died 1874. He married SARAH MELINDA TURNER Abt. 1865 in Alabama. She was born 1849 in Alabama. Children of JAMES HARRIS and SARAH TURNER are: i. SARAH F.3 HARRIS, b. Abt. 1866, Alabama. ii. JOHN WILLIAM HARRIS, b. 1868, Alabama; d. 1921. iii. ROBERT NEWBERRY HARRIS, b. 1870, Alabama. iv. ROSA PARALEE HARRIS, b. 1873, Alabama. v. WALTER HARRIS, b. 1875, Alabama. 3. ROBERT2 HARRIS (ROBERT B.1) was born 1853. He married NARCISSUS MCCLAINE Abt. 1874 in Alabama. She was born 1853. Children of ROBERT HARRIS and NARCISSUS MCCLAINE are: i. WILLIAM3 HARRIS, b. 1876, Alabama. ii. BELLVILLE HARRIS, b. 1878, Alabama. iii. ELISHA HARRIS, b. 1879, Alabama. iv. ELIJAH HARRIS, b. 1879, Alabama. This is based on the information provided by Bill Harris and reference to the 1880 U.S. Census. Sincerely, James E. Hargraves In a message dated 9/25/2008 11:06:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: With respect to the children of Josiah and Tabitha (Harris) Tuck, it occurs to me that since they married in 1790 Halifax Co. and were in GA by 1800, their children must have married in GA. However, they could have married into other families who came to GA from Southside VA. >From Tuck GenForum #1470: Susannah m. William McLaughlin Sarah m. A. Kent Nancy m. Jonathan Colley Mary m. William Newell Claiborne m. Frances Moore Benjamin W. m. Mariah Daughters Tabitha and Martha apparently never married. In 1830 Wilkes Co, GA, there were 2 females age 15-20 and 1 female age 60-70 in Josiah Tuck's household. In 1840 there was 1 female age 10-15, 2 females age 20-30 and 1 female age 60-70. That may (or may not) indicate that Tabitha was born @1770. Josiah was age 50-60 in 1830 and 70-80 in 1840. Pat S ____________________________________ Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? _Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators_ (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1209382257x1200540686/aol?redir=http://www .walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) . **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Belva, We have gone over this subject many times and I do agree that the Edward Harris line of Lunenburg, Charlotte Counties of Virginia and Wilkes County, North Carolina and Laurens County, South Carolina are all the same family group and undoubtedly a part of Group 8 ancestry, but many of your other claims are simply not supported by any evidence or documentation. I freely admit that I was wrong to believe that my Harris line of Burke County, North Carolina came from Charlotte and Lunenburg County, Virginia, but isn't that a part of all genealogical research, to develop a theory and trace a line to It's ultimate conclusion, to prove or disprove one's ancestry? In seeking the truth of my Harris line, that's all I was doing. In Harris research, this seems to be a normal procedure. With all of the duplicate names, I don't see any other way of doing it. There is no evidence that any group 8 ancestors were in Burke County, North Carolina in the late 1700's or early 1800's. There is no evidence That Minyard Harris existed after 1779 Wilkes County, North Carolina. There is no evidence that Minyard Harris was ever in Burke County, North Carolina. There is no evidence that Minyard Harris had any children. There is no evidence that Minyard Harris died at the Battle of King's Mountain in 1780. To the contrary, casualty reports from that battle, as recorded in the Lyman Draper Manuscripts indicate that he was not wounded or killed in that battle. Neither was David Harris. If you have any evidence or documentation of these non-events, I would love to hear it, but not based on associations that do not prove relationships, or DNA matches that may include contradictory paper trails. I agree that we should all try to work together to solve these Harris research problems, but do you really think it is helpful to make unsupported claims without qualifying those claims as theory or speculation? There is now substantial documented proof that the early Harris settlers in Burke County, North Carolina came from Knap of Reeds and Beaver Dam Districts of Granville County, North Carolina. This includes the facts that Edward Harris Sr.; Edward Harris Jr.; Thomas Harris; Gilliam Harris; David Harris and John Harris were all related and migrated from Granville County to Burke County, North Carolina between the years of 1778 and 1784. I think we should all work together as you suggested, and based on all of the duplicate Harris names that we encounter, we should promise ourselves, all of us, not to make unsupported claims without having any documentation to back it up, remembering that a book without evidence is not proof. Thanks for your message. I hope you will continue to help Bill Harris in his search for his ancestors, as we in group 30 are still struggling to understand how he fits into our Harris line and need all of the help we can get. James E. Hargraves Harris DNA group 30. In a message dated 10/1/2008 11:55:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: this is an open letter to my harris dna group 8 and also to harris dna group 30 but in some ways it involves all of us and our on-going search for our harris families and our harris ancestors and how for most of us this has been and continues to be a long, involved, complex and confusing search. for awhile now i have been corresponding with bill harris, whose ancestor robert harris/ emeline williams was living in 1860 in the same caneland district of cleburne co, al as my arch harris/ elizabeth carter's son wm abraham harris/ mary cohron and our arch harris' brother, daniel harris. i have had for years our jane cannon harris' war of 1812 pension papers re our charles harris which she obtained in 1872 in paulding co, ga. included with the pension papers are affadavits given in 1872 in cleburne co, al by emeline harris and hannah jane wright, stating that our charles harris died in 1865 in greene co, arkansas. for quite a long time i had thought this was bill's robert harris' wife, emeline harris and either their daughter, hannah, or someone related to them, who had given these affadavits there in 1872 in cleburne co, al. about three years ago i began corresponding with another harris cousin, mickey woods, who descends from our arch harris/ elizabeth carter's daughter elizabeth harris, who married in 1865 in cleburne co, al his obadiah hooper. i learned from mickey that several years previously he had corresponded with cynthia harris osborne, who told him that this was her/ our charles harris on the 1850 census for itawamba co, ms with her cannon harris and his brothers, our richard harris; and ransom b. harris and their families. since mickey had not seen our jane cannon harris' pension papers re our charles harris or had, at that time, corresponded with me, he could not really make sense of what cynthia was telling him. however, as shown per the census records, living adjacent to our richard harris both in 1850 in itawamba co, ms and also in 1860 in greene co, arkansas was jasper wright/ emeline and the census records show that jasper wright and his wife, emeline, did have a daughter, hannah jane. the info, then, shows that after our richard harris' wife, sarah, died and jasper wright had also died, probably there in green co, arkansas, richard harris remarried emeline wright and they returned to cleburne co, al. so, instead, of this being bill's robert harris' wife, emeline harris, it was richard harris' 2nd wife, emeline wright harris and her daughter, hannah jane wright, by her 1st husband jasper wright, who gave these affadavits in 1872 in cleburne co, al, stating that our charles harris died in 1865 in greene co, arkansas. per the 1870 cleburne co, al census, emeline, who was called neither wright nor harris, was living with her children and enumerated with mary ingram, who, along with laban pitts, witnessed these 1872 cleburne co, al affadavits by emeline harris and hannah jane wright re our charles harris and his death in 1865 in greene co, arkansas. the info indicates that both richard harris' 1st wife, sarah, and his 2nd wife, emeline wright, were the probable daughters of martin and mary peek ingram, who, along with our robert carter, jr; and our jane cannon harris were charter members of the concord baptist church in 1832 in cobb co, ga. meanwhile, i continued to believe that bill's robert harris was also related to my arch harris/ elizabeth carter and that his robert harris was also a probable son of our charles harris/ jane cannon. recently bill participated in the harris dna project and has learned that he is a harris dna match with harris dna group 30. pat morefield seaver; sandy harris hart and james hargraves are all a match and now bill harris and, so, are all now part of harris dna group 30. i have to tell you i am bowled over in learning this. already we in our harris dna group 8 and harris dna group 30 have had and are having "issues" about our harris families and our interest in them. for example, for some time james hargraves believed that this was his edward harris, sr on twitty's creek there in lunenburg/ charlotte co, va but we have proven that, instead, per our harris dna, that this edward harris, sr and whose sons, stephen harris and edward harris, jr, also moved to laurens co, sc, are part of our harris dna group 8. in my corresponding previously and recently with pat morefield seaver, we also share a lot of interest and similarities also in this same southside va area re our harris families and in these same individuals and families. again, besides her interest in their harris family in this same amelia/ halifax cos, va area, etc, her morefield family was also involved with this jonathan ashworth, who, like, our harris family, was on this partridge store ledger earlier in hanover co, va. also, this same jonathan ashworth lived adjacent the hudsons and this lindsay family in lunenburg co, va. lunenburg co, va deed book 4, page 302, 1756, edward morefield of halifax co, va to john hinson of goochland co, va for 7000 pds of net tobacco, 300 acres on sandy creek, bounded by jonathan ashworth, new line, and francis lindsay. witnesses: james hill; richard brown; rober wooding. again, this same robert wooding, per lunenburg co, va deeds i have posted previously, witnessed a number of lunenburg co, va deeds also re my william harris, sr/ frances goode, including one of these halifax co, va deeds wherein he sold this wynn creek land to john camp. it was also this same lindsay family, who inter-married with the same john hight/ mary reade family, who were not only involved with my william harris, sr/ frances goode also there in lunenburg co, va, but it was also john hight/ mary reade's son, reid/ reade hight who was the bondsman for the marriage of david harris to rebecca gilbert in burke co, nc. this david harris/ rebecca gilbert was the son of minyard harris, who was the son of our edward harris, sr of twittys creek there in lunenburg/ charlotte co, va. also, in regard to my interest in my william harris, sr/ frances goode being the son of william harris/ judith hudson, who was the daughter of peter hudson, sr, also there in this lunenburg/ halifax/ mecklenburg cos, va area, pat seaver and harris dna group 30 are also interested in peter hudson, sr and his family per their interest in their harris family, etc. so, again, i am bowled over that bill's robert harris, who was living there in this same caneland district in 1860 in cleburne co, al as my arch harris/ elizabeth carter's son, abraham harris and our arch's brother, daniel harris is a match with harris dna group 30 and that, again, pat seaver and i also share a mutual interest in our harris families and/ or these same individuals and families, including peter hudson, sr, earlier in this same southside va area. i have to admit i sure do not know what to make of all this but it is certainly very interesting! what it does tell me, though, again, is how amazingly complex and confusing these searches are for our harris families and our harris ancestors and how we need to continue to work together in our respective harris groups but still in our larger harris family group as well to learn more and to solve a lot of these "issues" we have in regard to them. of course, we also need to keep trying to find others to participate in the harris dna project because ultimately that is how a lot of these issues we have re our harris families are going to be totally solved and resolved. meanwhile, i would welcome any input/ comments from our harris dna group 8 and harris dna group 30 and/ or others re our similiar interests in our harris families, etc, in these same areas and what this all, perhaps, may mean. belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8--------26910 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? 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this is an open letter to my harris dna group 8 and also to harris dna group 30 but in some ways it involves all of us and our on-going search for our harris families and our harris ancestors and how for most of us this has been and continues to be a long, involved, complex and confusing search.   for awhile now i have been corresponding with bill harris, whose ancestor robert harris/ emeline williams was living in 1860 in the same caneland district of cleburne co, al as my arch harris/ elizabeth carter's son wm abraham harris/ mary cohron and our arch harris' brother, daniel harris.   i have had for years our jane cannon harris' war of 1812 pension papers re our charles harris which she obtained in 1872 in paulding co, ga.   included with the pension papers are affadavits given in 1872 in cleburne co, al by emeline harris and hannah jane wright, stating that our charles harris died in 1865 in greene co, arkansas.   for quite a long time i had thought this was  bill's robert harris' wife, emeline harris and either their daughter, hannah, or someone related to them, who had given these affadavits there in 1872 in cleburne co, al.   about three years ago i began corresponding with another harris cousin, mickey woods, who descends from our arch harris/ elizabeth carter's daughter elizabeth harris, who married in 1865 in cleburne co, al his obadiah hooper.   i learned from mickey that several years previously  he had corresponded with cynthia harris osborne, who told him that this was her/ our charles harris on the 1850 census for itawamba co, ms with her cannon harris and his brothers, our richard harris; and ransom b. harris and their families.   since mickey had not seen our jane cannon harris' pension papers re our charles harris or had, at that time, corresponded with me, he could not really make sense of what cynthia was telling him.   however, as shown per the census records, living adjacent to our richard harris both in 1850 in itawamba co, ms and also in 1860 in greene co, arkansas was jasper wright/ emeline and the census records show that jasper wright and his wife, emeline, did have a daughter, hannah jane.   the info, then, shows that after our richard harris' wife, sarah, died and jasper wright had also died, probably there in green co, arkansas, richard harris remarried emeline wright and they returned to cleburne co, al.   so, instead, of this being bill's robert harris' wife, emeline harris, it was richard harris' 2nd wife, emeline wright harris and her daughter, hannah jane wright, by her 1st husband jasper wright, who gave these affadavits in 1872 in cleburne co, al, stating that our charles harris died in 1865 in greene co, arkansas.   per the 1870 cleburne co, al census,  emeline, who was called neither wright nor harris, was living with her children and enumerated with mary ingram, who, along with laban pitts, witnessed these 1872 cleburne co, al affadavits by emeline harris and hannah jane wright re our charles harris and his death in 1865 in greene co, arkansas.   the info indicates that both richard harris' 1st wife, sarah, and his 2nd wife, emeline wright, were the probable daughters of martin and mary peek ingram, who, along with our robert carter, jr; and our jane cannon harris were charter members  of the concord baptist church in 1832 in cobb co, ga.   meanwhile, i continued to believe that bill's robert harris was also related to my arch harris/ elizabeth carter and that his robert harris was also a probable son of our charles harris/ jane cannon.   recently bill participated in the harris dna project and has learned that he is a harris dna match with harris dna group 30.  pat morefield seaver; sandy harris hart and james hargraves are all a match and now bill harris and, so, are all now part of harris dna group 30.   i have to tell you i am bowled over in learning this.   already we in our harris dna group 8 and harris dna group 30 have had and are having "issues"  about our harris families and our interest in them.   for example, for some time james hargraves believed that this was  his edward harris, sr on twitty's creek there in lunenburg/ charlotte co, va but we have proven that, instead, per our harris dna, that this edward harris, sr and whose sons, stephen harris and edward harris, jr, also moved to laurens co, sc, are part of our harris dna group 8.   in my corresponding previously and recently with pat  morefield seaver,  we also share a lot of interest and similarities also in this same southside va area re our harris families and in these same individuals and families.   again,  besides her interest in their harris family in this same amelia/ halifax cos, va area, etc, her morefield family was also involved with this jonathan ashworth, who, like, our harris family, was on this partridge store ledger earlier in hanover co, va.   also, this same jonathan ashworth lived adjacent the hudsons and this lindsay family in lunenburg co, va.   lunenburg co, va deed book 4, page 302, 1756, edward morefield of halifax co, va to john hinson of goochland co, va for 7000 pds of net tobacco, 300 acres on sandy creek, bounded by jonathan ashworth, new line, and francis lindsay.  witnesses:  james hill; richard brown; rober wooding.   again, this same robert wooding, per lunenburg co, va deeds i have posted previously, witnessed a number of lunenburg co, va deeds also re my william harris, sr/ frances goode, including one of these halifax co, va deeds wherein he sold this wynn creek land to john camp.    it was also this same lindsay family, who inter-married with the same john hight/ mary reade family, who were not only involved with my william harris, sr/ frances goode also there in lunenburg co, va, but it was also john hight/ mary reade's son, reid/ reade hight who was the bondsman for the marriage of david harris to rebecca gilbert in burke co, nc.   this david harris/ rebecca gilbert was the son of minyard harris, who was the son of our edward harris, sr of twittys creek there in lunenburg/ charlotte co, va.   also, in regard to my interest in my william harris, sr/ frances goode being the son of william harris/ judith hudson, who was the daughter of peter hudson, sr, also there in this lunenburg/ halifax/ mecklenburg cos, va area, pat seaver and harris dna group 30 are also interested in peter hudson, sr and his family per their interest in their harris family, etc.   so, again, i am bowled over that bill's robert harris, who was living there in this same caneland district in 1860 in cleburne co, al as my arch harris/ elizabeth carter's son, abraham harris and our arch's brother, daniel harris is a match with harris dna group 30 and that, again, pat seaver and i also share a mutual interest in our harris families and/ or these same individuals and families, including peter hudson, sr,  earlier in this same southside va area.   i have to admit i sure do not know what to make of all this but it is certainly very interesting!   what it does tell me, though, again, is how amazingly complex and confusing these searches are for our harris families and our harris ancestors and how we need to continue to work together in our respective harris groups but still in our larger harris family group as well to learn more and  to solve a lot of these "issues" we have in regard to them.   of course, we also need to keep trying to find others to participate in the harris dna project because ultimately that is how a lot of these issues we have re our harris families are going to be totally solved and resolved.   meanwhile, i would welcome any input/ comments from our harris dna group 8 and harris dna group 30 and/ or others re our similiar interests in our harris families, etc, in these same areas and what this all, perhaps, may mean.     belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8--------26910        

About a week ago, Belva posted a message from the VA-SOUTHSIDE list regarding Flat Creek of Bedford Co, Lunenburg Co. and Amelia Co. From the Buckholtz maps of 1859: Flat Creek of Lunenburg Co. is located in present-day Mecklenburg Co. in the eastern part of the county (fairly close to Brunswick Co.). It appears that it flows into the Roanoke River. Flatt Creek of Amelia Co. flows south to north across the western part of Amelia Co., then curves to the east and flows into the Appomattox. Its headwaters are in the northwestern part of Nottoway, but most of the creek is located in Amelia Co. and it is quite long. These two creeks are no where near one another. Pat Seaver

Those who are acquainted with some of the history of the Harris family, descendants of whom migrated to Madison Co., KY, are asked to help me with the identity of one Matthew Harris, living in Albemarle Co., VA in 1758. Robert Harris, of course, was a former resident of colonial Louisa Co., VA, where he was surveyor at times, a member of the House of Burgesses at times, and a large landowner in Louisa Co. from which part of Albemarle Co. was formed. I do not recognize, nor have I found evidence, that Matthew Harris is a member of Robert's family. He could have been a grandson, a nephew, or any other close relationship. What is your take on his identity? Here is an abstracted document executed by Robert Harris to his son-in-law John Rodes of Albemarle Co. JOHN RODES. (Living in 1766 in Albemarle Co.) He reportedly was the husband of Sarah Harris, daughter of Major Robert Harris of Louisa Co. Albemarle Co. DB 2-67 verifies that by 1758 John Rodes was married to the daughter [unnamed] of Robert Harris. Harris deeded slaves to John Rodes "me thereunto moving but more especially for the natural love and affection which I have and bear unto my son in Law John Rodes....give grant bargain sell unto the said John Rodes & his heirs the following Negroes [two slaves, who are named]. 26 Aug 1758 /s/ Robert Harris. Wits: Matthew Harris, David Lewis, Joel Terril, Andrew Wallace." On court date, Albemarle Co., 14th day of Sept 1758 the deed poll was proved by the oaths of Matthew Harris, Joel Terril and Andrew Wallace. (Adapted from Ruth and Sam Sparacio, DEED ABSTRACTS OF ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA, DEED BOOK 2, 9 FEBRUARY 1758-12 MARCH 1761 [McLean, VA: Ruth & Sam Sparacio, 1988] p. 20) Note: Andrew Wallace is not linked to my spouse's family, who migrated from Ireland in the 1840s to Massachusetts. A good many Scots-Irish people from Pennsylvania migrated down the Shenandoah Valley prior to the American Revolution. One will find their records in those counties along the Blue Ridge, both in Virginia and in North Carolina. Submitted by E.W.Wallace descendant of Robert Harris's son Christopher Harris of early Madison Co., KY **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Dear Harris descendants of Christopher Harris and his second wife Agnes McCord, and other interested parties: I hope all of you have access to the online genealogical database called HeritageQuest through your local or nearby public library--or perhaps your State Library. Those subscribers who live in North Carolina and Texas should contact their State libraries [which I hope are NOT going to be closed because of faltering budgets]. Doing a search of HeritageQuest for Persons (under Books) I typed in search terms: McCord and Pennsylvania. There is a book-- a brief genealogical history of the McCord family, who probably came from Pennsylvania down the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia. Some settled in Augusta Co., VA and later in Albemarle Co., VA. Some members seemed to go on to South Carolina. Those McCords who probably settled in early Kentucky may be from the Albemarle Co. branch, as are Christopher Harris and Agnes McCord. (Christopher Harris appears in the so-called The 1787 Census of Virginia, in both Albemarle Co. and in Madison Co., KY) Here is a citation of the genealogy of the McCord family Lofquist, Margaret U, The Genealogical Record of Some McCord Families in America [Arlington Hts, IL: 1965] The authoress gives this information about the will of John McCord of Moorman's River, Albemarle Co., VA: Will dated March 2, 1764, recorded November 8, 1764 John McCord of Moormans River, Albemarle County, Virginia amed his sons John and Benjamin as executors. John was bequeathed the hom plantation on Moormans River and Benjamin was to have the plantation on Ivy Creek. Son William D. and Christopher Harris (his son-in-law) are mentioned as well as his wife (but not by name). Question: Does anyone have a copy of the actual will? How cooperative are the clerks at the Albemarle Courthouse? (Some clerks in some counties, although I may have sent a check with my request, rebuff my requests for a copy of a document.) There is mention in this brief genealogy of McCord's Fort in Pennsylvania. In 1995, in the old State Library in Richmond, VA, I copied down some of the McCord patents from the old index cards. Today, however, these abstracted patents should be recorded on the Land Records section of the online Library of Virginia website _http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/land/index.htm_ (http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/land/index.htm) My research shows that in 1755 and 1756 these McCord males received patents in Albemarle Co, several of them on Branches of Moreman's River: 1756 James McCord - Albemarle Co. 1755 John McCord - Albemarle Co. 1756 Joseph McCord - Albemarle Co. 1756 William McCord - Albemarle Co. There are later Virginia land patents; therefore, probably some McCord males, perhaps relatives, did not remove to Kentucky. E.W.Wallace descendant of Christopher Harris & Agnes McCord PS. According to Lyman Chalkley's abstracts in The Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlements in Virginia, Christopher Harris and Agnes McCord sold property in that county. The date escapes me presently. (Scottish lassies frequently kept their maiden names, as I learned from reading some tombstones in a village in Scotland some years ago.) Chalkley's abstracts in three volumes can be found on this URL. Each volume has its own index--at the bottom of the first or second screen. They are rough indexes. The URL may have changed with Ancestry.com absorbing rootsweb [which is still Free, however.] _www.rootsweb.com/~chalkley/_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~chalkley/) Remove any punctuation fore and aft of the URL before pasting in your search blank. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

I am looking for descendents of Eli Harris who was born in Kings Co Nova Scotia 16 Nov 1785 and who resettled in Eastport Maine prior to 1812 Eli Harris died in 1830, however son Asa Harris appears on the 1850 Eastport census The 7 Jan 1816 birth date for dau Nancy Harris matches handwritten birth records I have for this family, but I do not have the name of Eli Harris's wife The children I show are Eliza (2 Jan 1808) Ingerson or Ingason (3 Dec 1809) Asa (6 May 1813) Nancy (7 Jan 1816) Hannah (26 May 1818) Leward or Seward (28 Sept 1820) Abigail (27 sept 1822) Anna (7 Oct 1824) Eli (b. 11 Mar 1829, died. 28 Mar 1830 Any information is appreciated, especially in respect to the name of Eli's wife Regards Ben MacDonald Sun City Arizona

FYI - More Dinwiddie Co. VA records. Not my line but thought I would follow up on the Dinwiddie Co. lands that were given by Matthew Harris in his 1790 Brunswick Co. will to sons Moody & John Harris (appended below is Matthew Harris' Brunswick Co. VA will). Land Records, Dinwiddie County, Virginia 1752-1820, compiled & indexed by Thomas P. Hughes, Jr. & Jewel B. Standefer p 9 Dinwiddie County, Virginia Commissioner of Revenue 1782-1820 1782-1786 - David Walker & William Withers, Comm. 1787-1791 - Woods Tucker 1787-1793 - William Watts 1792-1804 - Braddock Goodwyn 1794-1799 - Daniel Pegram 1800-1806 - Joseph Boisseau 1805-1807* - Edward H. Pegram 1807 - * - Charles Roper 1809-1817 - Edward Scott 1809-1816 - Charles Roper 1817-1820 - Peter Scott 1818-1820 - Henry Young *There is no tax list for 1808 as the crops were bad and the State of Virginia did not collect any taxes that year. p 15 1782 Land Tax, Dinwiddie County, Virginia Harris, Ann 200 acres Harris, Cajor 100 acres [unusual name, wonder if it is nickname for Micajah] Harris, William 400 acres Harris, William 200 acres p 27 1784 Alteration for Dinwiddie County, Virginia Harris, Mathew from James Petillo 750 acres Travis, Lott p 31 Alterations October, 1784 to September 1785 Harris, Matt from Mark High 100 acres High, Mark to Matt Harris 100 acres p 92 CH = Court House Conv by = land coming into Conv to = land going out Harris, Anne - 1787 - 1789 taxed on 200a Harris, Benjamin - 1813-1814 taxed on 33 1/3a lands of John Butler on Monksnake Rd. 5 E CH. Harris, Benjamin - 1817 taxed on 69 1/2a on Cattail Run 6 E. CH conv by James Hargrave & 3a on Cattail Run 6 E CH conv by Joseph Hunnicutt. 1818 scratched out and says trans. to Wm. E. Waugh Harris, Benjamin 1818-1820 taxed on 105 1/2a on White Oak Cr. 7 W CH conv by James Young & Life Int. 74a on White Oak Cr. 8 W CH conv by Joseph Stell & wife Harris, John - 1790 taxed on 300a formerly Matt Harris. 1791 - 1794 taxed on 290a 1795-1796 taxed on 290a & 51a conv by Laban Abernathy. 1797 - 1798 taxed on 77a conv by Capt Thos. Hardaway, conv 290a to John Hamblet & conv 51a to Leroy Lunsford. 1799 - 1812 taxed on 77a & 196a conv by William Stewart. 1813 - 1820 taxed on 273a on Stage Rd. 13 SW CH. Harris, John - 1795 taxed on 30a conv by William Conway Harris, Matthew - 1788 taxed on 600a, formerly overcharged 50a. 1789 taxed on 600a Harris, Micajah - 1787-1788 taxed on 100a 1789 taxed on 100a & 100a conv by Joseph Stewart. 1790-1805 taxed on 100a. Harris, Moody - 1790 taxed on 300a formerly Matt Harris. 1791-1796 taxed on 316a 1797-1802 taxed on 247a conv 69a to Samuel Jones. 1803-1805 taxed on 200a conv 47a to William Nobles, Jr. Harris, Peterson A. - 1816-1820 taxed on 105a adjoining R. Rives 12 SW CH. Harris, (Harrison), Robert - 1812-1813 taxed on 168a. 1814-1816 taxed on 167a 1817-1829 taxed on 167a near Stoney Cr. 15 SE CH. Harris, William 2787-1796 taxed on 400a Harris, William Estate - 1787-1788 taxed on 200a p 154, Matthew Harris Stark, Belfield - 1788-1791 taxed on 191a conv by Matthew HARRIS. 1792-1795 taxed on 191a & 1,150a conv by William Crowder p 105, Moody Harris Jones, Samuel - 1797 taxed on 69a conv by Moody HARRIS. 1798-1802 taxed on 49 1/2a conv 19 1/2a to Joseph Crowder p 125, Moody Harris Noble, William, Jr., Sr. - 1803-1809 taxed on 49a conv by Moody HARRIS Noble, William W. - 1813-1820 taxed on 49a joining John Hamblett on Stage Rd 9 E CH p 174 - Benjamin Harris Waugh, William E. - 1815-1816 taxed on 33 1/3a conv by Benjamin HARRIS. 1817 taxed on 33 1/3a, 16 1/2a conv by James Haygood, & 29a conv by James Hunnicutt. 1818-1820 taxed on 33 1/3a, 16 1/2a, 24a & 72 1/2a conv by Benjamin Harris. All are on Quaker Rd. 5 E CH p 66 - John Harris Conway, William - 1787-1790 taxed on 177a 1791-1794 taxed on 177a & 23 3/4a conv by *Roger Atkinson. 1795-1796 taxed on 177a conv to John HARRIS 23 3/4a 1797-1798 taxed on 177a & 50a conv by George Pegram. 1799-1800 Sr. taxed 177a & 50a. 1801-1804 Estate taxed on 177a & 50a. Conway, William - 1820 taxed on 11a on Vaughan's Rd 14 E CH from Benjn Conway estate. http://www.psi-sc.com/genealogy/atkisson/atkissdeed.html *1761, Dec 01 Land Transfer: From William Harris, planter of Lunenberg Co., VA, to *ROGER ATKINSON, merchant of Dinwiddie Co., VA for 100 pounds - 400 acres on Bluestone Creek. Land deeded to William Harris by John Wilburn Mecklenburg Co., VA.* P 88 - John Harris Hamblet - John - 1787-1807 taxed on 290a conv by John Harris. p 114 - John Harris Lunsford, Leroy - 1794-1796 taxed on 82a conv by David Meredith. 1797 taxed on 82a & 51a conv by John Harris. Brunswick WB 5, p 343-345, 25 Jan 1790 WILL - HARRIS, MATTHEW - Will of Matthew Harris of St. Andrews Parish, dated November 4, 1789 and proved on January 25, 1790 by the oaths of Lewis Parham, Charles King, Sr., John Abernathy, Sr. and George Williams. To son, MODY HARRIS, one half of that tract of land in DINWIDDIE COUNTY which I purchased of James Pettillo (adjoining the road) and the three negroes which he has now in possession (Edith, Lucy & Cylvia). To son, JOHN HARRIS, the other half of that tract in Dinwiddie purchased of James Petillo, also three negroes, Tom, Patience and Moses, two cows and calves. To son, CHARLES HARRIS, that tract of land which I now live on containing six hundred and sixty four acres, also three negroes, Ned, Wilson and Jim. To daughter, SARAH HARRIS, two negroes, Cyler and Hall, one Horse (Natt) and two hundred pounds specie. To son, ROBERT, all the land lying above the Mill Branch adjoining Robert Lucy and Fieldses lands, also three negroes, Harry, George and Frederick, also one Black Gray Filley (Black fast). To son, BENJAMIN, all that tract which lies on the side of the Mill Branch contrary to the part given to my son Robert, three negroes, Orrum, Will and Squire, one bay colt which came of the Sorrell mare. To wife, SARAH HARRIS, two negroes, Frank and Diley, one Horse (Lew). To daughter, ELIZABETH NOBLES, one negro (Charlotta) to maintain and educate her children and at her death to be divided amongst her children. To son, CHARLES, three cows and calves. Feather bed and furniture to SARAH HARRIS (my wife), SARAH HARRIS (my daughter), ROBERT HARRIS, and BENJAMIN HARRIS. All residue to be equally divided between my legatees except Elizabeth Nobel and SUSANNA STITH. Appoints sons, MOODY and CHARLES, as executors. Will was witnessed by Lewis Parham, Charles King, Senr., John Abernathy, Senr. and George Williams (by his mark). Son, MOODY refused to take upon himself the burden of Execution. CHARLES HARRIS obtained probate of the will with Thomas Ingram and John Elliott as his securities. ____________________________________________________________ Play it loud with a new car stereo! Click here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3n6nC3V1jYRn8XEKplzZN8IIj8SKQawYxr0PFxf78LihZeea/

Previously sent email to HH list with Matthew Harris' 1790 Brunswick Co. VA will mentioning Dinwiddie Co. VA lands to sons Moody Harris & John Harris....both these men are mentioned in Dinwiddie Co. records below. Dinwiddie County, Virginia Data 1752-1865, compiled & Indexed by Thomas P. Hughes, Jr. One page below notes probably kinships of some Harrises taken from tax rolls...thought that was interesting. Index: Harris A. 140 Banister 82 Benjamin 35 Clement 82 David 82, 129 Hardaway 71 Matthew 82 James 99 John 61, 80 Nick 104 Peter 82 Samuel 61 Travis 103 William 71 p 1 The Account Book of Dr. Robert Walker, Died 31 January 1830, in Virginia Historical Society. Richmond, VA p 194, 1797 - Haris, Robert, brother to Charles Harris p 50, Probable Kinships from Personalty Property Tax Rolls 1782-1820 p 82 Harris, John 1810 - David Harris Harris, Micajah 1791 - Banister Harris 1795-1797 - Peter & Clement Harris Harris, Moody 1791 - Lewis Hunnicutt 1803 - Matthew Harris Harris, William 1783 - Joshua Clay 1788 - Allen Jackson 1791 - Joshua Eppes, Jr. 1793 - 1794 - James Clay Following are Harrises who have some kind of family involvement with the subject family: p 140 - A. Harris Williamson, John 1782 - Charles Williamson 1784-1785 - Charles Williamson 1789 - John Walden & A. Harris 1790 - John Waldren 1791 - John Waldren & Francis Meridith 1792-1794 - David Stradford p 129, David Harris Turnbull, Robert (PG) 1803 - John Thompson & David Harris 1784 - Robert & George Terrance 1787 - Signal Abernathy & Joseph Crook 1788 - Joseph Crook 1789-1790 - Joseph Crook & Daniel McCoy p 71, Hardaway Harris Day, James 1810 - Hardaway Harris 1811 - William Harris 1814-1815 - son George Day p 99, James Harris Masterson, Thomas 1785 - James Harris, Armstead Davis & Morris Evans p 61, John Harris Butler, John 1790 - Moses Butler & James Ampey 1791 - James Ampey 1800-1804 - Jonathan Butler 1807 - Samuel Harris & John Harris p 80, John Harris Hardaway, Robert 1790 - John Harris p 104, Nick Harris Norton, Thomas 1796 - David Norton & Nick Harris p 103, Travis Harris Nicholas, Colo. John 1783 - James Young 1784 - Travis Harris 1786 - Travis Harris 1789 - Edmund Mason & Ephriam Gee 1791 - David Wheelhouse 1792 - David Wheelhouse, Ephriam Gee & William Potts 1793 - 1797 - Ephriam Gee & William Potts p 33 , Dinwiddie Co. VA surveyor's Platt Bk, 1755-1865 VA., State Lib. & Archives p 35 - Benjamin Harris November 19, 1755, John Jones 312a on both sides Otterdam Swamps adj. Christopher Hinton, John Mayes & Benjamin Harris. 252a formerly granted Henry Alley, 5 September 1723. Residue not before granted 1/3 fit for cultivation. ____________________________________________________________ Master the road in style in an RV. Click here for great deals. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3l1oVsCTCW7PdEtIwGzo3mMgfdKXxxu8Llr2RzsUhJkUSOnE/

Below is a 1772 Prince Edward Co. deed where Matthew Harris, P.E Co. sells his 100a tract (Sandy River/Sailor Cr) to John Tabb...deed states Matthew Harris rec'd this land from William Rice with a Matthew Rice as an adjoining neighbor....and from what I can find, apparently these Rice men were from Hanover Co. VA with Matthew Rice noted in 1741 Amelia record as being "of St. Martins Par., Hanover Co"..and if we take that time period okf 1741 & add 7 yrs to 1741, we have 23 June 1748 my Thomas Harris & Harrison Harris with back-to-back Amelia Co. deeds & also both of St. Martins Hanover Co. with indentures for Amelia Co. land....we know there was a Thomas Rice who was adj. land owner to a 1723 Thomas Harris Little River patent & William Rice has been mentioned in Amelia deed 26 Nov 1745 below involving several Harris men with David Harris selling to Benjamin Harris, both of St. Martins, Hanover Co. VA. Anyway, I personally believe we do have some commonality here with Hanover Co. Harris & Rice men and their Amelia Co. lands. I don't know what happened to Matthew Harris after the 1772 P.E. deed & asking if anyone does know where he went...is he the one who left his will (below) in Brunswick Co. 1790? Matthew 1772 of P.E. Co. must have had a son, Matthew Junr, as in below 1768 P.E. Co. deed, Matthew Jr. also sells his P.E. Co. tract plus another P.E. 1757 record below indicates a son, Daniel. The Matthew Harris died 1790 Brunswick Co. did not mention sons Matthew or Daniel in his will, but did name sons...Moody, John, Charles, Robert, Benjamin in his 1790 will. What we have here is a Matthew Harris who shows up in the Amelia tithables as early as 1737 was in the Amelia Co. tithables up to 1752 (Prince Edward Co. formed 1752 from Amelia)...then we have Matthew Harris who sells his P.E. Co. land in 1772 as well as Matthew, Jr. in 1768 P.E. Co. both evidently sold out of P.E. Co. & disappeared from P.E. Co.? With Matthew Harris being Amelia Co. tithable by 1737 gives us some idea as to his possible age...at least 21 in 1737....= 1716 birth year & perhaps even older. Amelia Co. tithables 1737 Harris, Matthew - 1737, left column http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vataxlists/Amelia/1737T ith/01.jpg Amelia Tithables, Matthew Harris from 1738-1752 Harris, Matthew – 38a – John Burton's List, above Flatt Creek Harris, Mathu – 39a – {Francis Anderson's} List, above Flatt Creek Harris, Matthew – 42f – Wm Clement's List [between Flatt Creek and Appomattox River] Harris, Matt – 46o – Jno Nash's List {in all the upper part of this county} Harris, Mathew (no effects) – 46p – Amelia County Insolvents for 1746 (with reason on list) Harris, Math – 47a – Thomas Tabb's List, above Flatt Creek Harris, Matthew – 50g – Jno Nash's List, Nottoway Parish Harris, Matt – 51g – Jno Nash's List, Nottoway Parish Harris, Matt – 52g – Jno Nash's List, Nottoway Parish Amelia Co. Va DB 3 & DB 4 1747-1753, by Gibson Jefferson McConnaughey p 33, Matthew Harris (p 232) Deed GEORGE FOSTER to EDWARD SILVA. dtd June 16, 1749. Consid: 3000(?) lbs of tobacco. 200a, adj. Joseph Ward's upper cor. on the river, lines of Matthew HARRIS, Osborne & Townes, a branch, Richard Booker's cor. on the river, & the river. No wit. p 91, Matthew Harris (p 189) Deed JASON MEADOWS of Raleigh Parish to JOHN WRIGHT of St. Davids Parish, King William Co. (Va) Deed also signed by ELIZABETH (X) MEADOWS. Oct 25, 1751. Consid: 19/12/3. 224a in Raleigh Parish, adj. lines of Harris, Morris, Meadow, Matthew HARRIS, Crawford & Dawson, being pat. to Jason Meadows (no date given). Wits: John Trabue & Benjamin Ward. p 94, Matthew Harris (p 227) Deed JOHN WADDILL to MATHEW RICE. dtd Nov 26, 1751. Consid: 30 pounds. 188a U/S Saylor's Creek, adj. lines of Turpin, Morris & Riche, being land pat. to John Waddill on Aug 20, 1747. Wits: Matthew HARRIS, Thomas Turpin & Mich (X) Tirpin (sic). ----------------- Prince Edward Co. Deed Book 5, p 10-11, 18 May 1772, Indent. between Matthew Harris, Senr. of Prince Edward Co. Va and John Tabb of Amelia Co., Va., 100a bet. Sandy River & Sailor Creek, corner pine in John Fargufsons line...and Barnes...Matthew Rices line...being a parsell or track of land which was granted to the said Matthew Harrifs by a deed from William Rices on this indenture. Matthew Harris Junr of Saint Patricks Parish, P. E. Co. Va & Thomas Blankinship of same county/parish, P.E. Co. DB 5, p 113-115, 5 Mar 1768, Indenture for 100a adj. John Bradshaw's, Richard Pond's, William Searcey's & William King's. ----------------------------- http://listsearches.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/HARRIS-COLONIALVA/2005- 11/1133113043 Prince Edward Co. DB 1 p 98, 12 July 1757, Matthew Harriss of P.E. to Daniel Harriss, son of Matthew, for 5 shillings 50 acres more or less part of tract Matthew lives on bounded by Matthew Rice. Matthew Harriss Prince Edward Co. DB 2 p 190, 12 September 1761, Daniel Harris of St. Patrick Ph. P.E. to Matthew Harris of same for 8 pounds 10 shillings 50 acres bounded by Goodlow, Rice. Daniel Harris his mark, Witnesses: Richd Burks, Matthew Rice, Mosses Rice ------------------ http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/RICE-SOUTHERN/2007-01/1170028621 Matthew Rice of P to John Rice of P for the love which I have for my son John Rice of P 165 ac on the branches of Sandy River in P bounded by Matthew Rice Sr, Matthew Harris, Deep Bottom branch, north fork of the Great Branch of Sandy River, Thomas Smith, signed Matthew Rice wit Matthew Rice Jr, Thomas Turpin, rec May 20 1765 http://searches2.rootsweb.com/th/read/RICE/2006-10/1160685422 Matthew Rice and Ann unknown "Matthew is first mentioned in a deed executed in 1741 in Amelia Co. Va which then encompassed present day Prince Edward Co. He purchased 800 acres from Ivan Morris, and Matthew was identified in the deed as "of St. Martin's Parish" of Hanover Co. Matthew accumulated considerable land in Sandy River...." [Ivan Morris may be Isaac Morris] ------------------- Deed Book 2, Amelia County, Va Deeds 1742-1747, Gibson Jefferson McConnaughey p 50, (p 332) Deed DAVID HARRIS, Planter, of St. Martins Parish, Hanover Co. (Va) to BENJAMIN HARRIS, Planter, of St. Martins Parish, Louisa Co. (Va). dtd Nov 26, 1745. Consid: 35 pounds. Wit: Robert HARRIS, Thomas Pavilett, William Snelson, James Johnson, James Yancey, William Rice & Benjamin Dumas. 387a B/S Vaughan's Creek, being pat. to sd David HARRIS on Sept 16, 1743. Benjamin HARRIS pd 35 pounds, consid. money for sd land in presence of Robert HARRIS, Thomas Pavilett, William Snelson, James Johnson, James Yancey, William Rice & Benjamin Dumas on Nov 26, 1745. Deed ackn by David HARRIS on May 16, 1746, proved by oaths of Robert HARRIS, William HARRIS & James Yancey, three of the wits., & ordered rec. Brunswick WB 5, p 343-345, 25 Jan 1790 WILL - HARRIS, MATTHEW - Will of Matthew Harris of St. Andrews Parish, dated November 4, 1789 and proved on January 25, 1790 by the oaths of Lewis Parham, Charles King, Sr., John Abernathy, Sr. and George Williams. To son, MODY HARRIS, one half of that tract of land in DINWIDDIE COUNTY which I purchased of James Pettillo (adjoining the road) and the three negroes which he has now in possession (Edith, Lucy & Cylvia). To son, JOHN HARRIS, the other half of that tract in Dinwiddie purchased of James Petillo, also three negroes, Tom, Patience and Moses, two cows and calves. To son, CHARLES HARRIS, that tract of land which I now live on containing six hundred and sixty four acres, also three negroes, Ned, Wilson and Jim. To daughter, SARAH HARRIS, two negroes, Cyler and Hall, one Horse (Natt) and two hundred pounds specie. To son, ROBERT, all the land lying above the Mill Branch adjoining Robert Lucy and Fieldses lands, also three negroes, Harry, George and Frederick, also one Black Gray Filley (Black fast). To son, BENJAMIN, all that tract which lies on the side of the Mill Branch contrary to the part given to my son Robert, three negroes, Orrum, Will and Squire, one bay colt which came of the Sorrell mare. To wife, SARAH HARRIS, two negroes, Frank and Diley, one Horse (Lew). To daughter, ELIZABETH NOBLES, one negro (Charlotta) to maintain and educate her children and at her death to be divided amongst her children. To son, CHARLES, three cows and calves. Feather bed and furniture to SARAH HARRIS (my wife), SARAH HARRIS (my daughter), ROBERT HARRIS, and BENJAMIN HARRIS. All residue to be equally divided between my legatees except Elizabeth Nobel and SUSANNA STITH. Appoints sons, MOODY and CHARLES, as executors. Will was witnessed by Lewis Parham, Charles King, Senr., John Abernathy, Senr. and George Williams (by his mark). Son, MOODY refused to take upon himself the burden of Execution. CHARLES HARRIS obtained probate of the will with Thomas Ingram and John Elliott William Rice of Louisa Co. Court Orders Louisa Co. Court 13th March 1743/4, p. 100-101 In an action of trespass assault an battery between Humphrey Parrish, plt. and Edward Harris, deft. for twenty pounds sterling damage sustained by the plt. by means of the deft. assaulting and beating the plt. as in the declaration is set forth and the deft. pleaded, the plt. joined issue and this day Thomas Starke, Benjamin Hensley, Thomas Jackson, Richard Brookes, William Rice, William Bigger, Glover Davenport, Jeremiah Glen, Richard Yancey, John Bailey, Edward Lane, and Thomas Henry were impannelled and sworn to try the issue joined and being sent oout after some time returned into court and brought in a verdict which at the motion of the plt. is admitted to record being in these words, "We find for the plt. thirty shillings, John Starke, foreman." therefore it is considered by the court that the plt. recover against the deft. thirty shillings sterling with costs and a lawyer's fee. Louisa County Court 26th November 1745, p. 173 The court laid the county levy To William Rice for guarding David Harris 50 [pounds of tobacco] 1723 Tho. Harris 300a N.L., Hanover Co. on N. side of the Little River bet Thomas Sharpe & Thomas Rice 5 Sep 1723, p ____________________________________________________________ Home prices too high? Click here for interest only loans to buy the home of your dreams. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mKu3oXvFQ7GFQg3lqPP4DbMjwbHDzflqD6JUJ895mcgMilA/

What exactly is Harris DNA group 2 ? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] About Harris DNA group 2 > So far I have received no response to my inquiry and request to have > someone > who connects to this group contact me. Is there no one? > > Peggy > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips > and > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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About Dabney Harris of Virginia and North Carolina [DNA group # 6]: Our Dabney Harris, was the son of Christopher Harris [Madison Co, KY] and Mary Dabney of Albemarle Co, VA [proven per will of Cornelius Dabney], researched by direct descendants of Dabney Harris, namely; Lillian Densley, Ellen Radford, Cathea Curry, and Ralph Harris, DNA group # 6 Dabney Harris, wife Mary, and their family lived in Surry/ Wilkes Counties, NC during the known years of 1782-1797, then moved back and forth to Washington County, VA where Dabney Harris died in 1810. Benjamin Harris, Mary "Polly" Harris-Roy, Christopher Harris, and Dabney Harris, Junior have been proven by our research to be the children of Dabney and Mary Harris. The aforementioned children all removed to Pulaski County, KY and lived near one another. Our research also suggests other children of Dabney Harris "may have been", Silas Harris of Surry Co, NC, Sarah Harris-Austin and Isabella Harris-Musick, [more research is needed to either "rule in or rule out" these three "suspected children"]. We hope this opens new doors for all that are interested in "Dabney Harris" research. Lillian Densley, Ellen Radford, Cathea Curry, Ralph Harris [DNA Group #6] Descendants of Dabney & Mary Harris Members of the "Harris SleuthKateers" Cathea Curry Researching "The Harris and Allied Families of Pulaski Co., KY" Member of the Harris SleuthKateers Visit our Harris website @ <http://www.freewebs.com/kyharris/> http://www.freewebs.com/kyharris/

again, pat seaver posted amelia co, va deeds re this richard harris on flatt creek in amelia co, va.   i also want to post this post by joy king who descends from the sizemores.     again, this 1750 dodson survery for william harris, sr and william harris, jr on wynn creek, and who i believe the info indicates was my william harris, sr/ frances goode and his father william harris/ judith hudson, was adjacent the sizemores.   as joy says here, there was more than one flatt creek and the flatt creek that was in brunswick co, va, which became lunenburg, then, mecklenburg co, va, was not the same flatt creek, which was in amelia co, va.     belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8--------26910     VA-SOUTHSIDE-L Archives Archiver > VA-SOUTHSIDE > 2004-01 > 1073856041 From: "Joy King" < [email protected]> Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Fw: Part 2 Flatt Creek Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:20:44 -0500 References: <[email protected]> As you already know, the Flatt Cr. of early Brunswick Co., VA was located in Lunenburg Co. when it was formed from Brunswick in 1746 and is presently located in Mecklenburg Co. formed in 1765 from Lunenburg Co. The Flatt Cr. of Amelia Co., VA is still located there and would not be the same as a Flatt Cr. in Bedford Co. which was formed in 1753 from Lunenburg and Albemarle Counties. Is your Poole family strictly that or do they have a connection to the Pettypool families found in the same records? I've noticed several of the Pettypools are listed as Poole in the land Entry Record Book. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: "TJstubby" < [email protected]> To: < [email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 4:15 AM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Fw: Part 2 Flatt Creek > April 25 1756 Robert Vaughn and Martha his wife of Raliegh Parish Amelia Co.Va to Robert Vaughn Jr. of the same for Love and Affection for their son::200 acres on the lower side of Flatt Creek joining William Booker, Vaughns Creek, the first branch making out of the creek below said Vaughn's Plantation where he know lives. > > April 2 1757 William Poole sold 100 acres on Mill Branch of Flatt Creek adjoingin Maclin to John Watson Jr. for one pound for love and affetion:: Witnesses were Robert Bizwell,Rebekah Bizewell and Adam Poole: Deed bok 4 page 397 > > 1779 Daniel chandler Land Grant from Thomas Jefferson Esq. 370 Acres lying and being part of the County of Bedford on both side of Flatt Creek and Possum Creek > > Mecklenburg Co. Will of William Crutchfield Court held May 20 1816 > Item I give unto my son Thomas D.Crutchfield all the land on the West side of Flatt Creek. > > June Court 1816 Amelia CO Va Deed Book 24 Page 246 :: Richard E. Meade and wife to Benjamin Meade > This indenture made and entered into this 22nd day of Feb. 1816 between Richard Mead and Francis his wife and Benjamin Meade:::::::::The waters of Flatt Creek and known by the name of Meades Milll;;;;;

per the deeds pat seaver posted re this richard harris, this is indicated to have been the same benjamin hawkins family, etc, associated with richard harris, per these flatt creek deeds, who was also associated with the gilliam/ hopkins families also there in amelia/ prince edward co, va.   Amelia Co. VA Deed Book 2 p. 220 Deed.  Richard Harris & Richard (X)  Wetherford to Samuel Martin d. 17 jan 1745 14£ wit:  George Currie &  Benjamin Hawkins.  200 a s/s Flatt Creek, bounded in part by Foster’s  cor. & line & a branch rec. 17 jan 1745 (McConnaughey) Amelia co, VA Deed Book 2 p. 238 Deed of lease.  Richard Harris of  Amelia Co. & Richard Wetherford of Goochland Co. to George Foster of  Raleigh Parish 16 jan 1745 5 shillings wit:  George Currie & Benjamin  Hawkins.  600a in two tracts:  (1) 400a bounded in part by n/s Flatt  Creek & the great fork; (2) 200a bounded in part by Edward Jones’ cor  & line & Flatt Creek rec 17 jan 1745 (McConnaughey)   i am very busy here today and for the next several days but in briefly checking the rootsweb posts re benjamin hawkins, i found this post.    again,  what is interesting about this is that we have harris descendants in our harris dna group 8, who also descend from this james gilliam/ frances hopkins, who were also involved with this benjamin hawkins/ robert hawkins in this amelia/ prince edward cos, va area.   as stated, this robert hawkins, said to be the son of benjamin hawkins, per the info, married 2nd sarah frances gilliam, daughter of james gilliam/ sarah hopkins.     as shown, per the following info, this was the same james gilliam/ sarah hopkins, who were also part of our harris dna group 8 harris family.   again, all of this is, indeed, involved and not easy to sort all of this out re our harrises in this southside va area either.   belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8--------26910   again, those who descend from this gideon harris/ martha taylor gilliam, per this info to follow,  are a group 8 harris dna match.   Here is my Farris lineage from the beginning up to the present: 1) Sarah Farris/Ferris/Faries, d. 1807 Goochland Co., VA; md. John Gilliam, d. 15 Sept. 1794 Goochland Co., VA 2) James Gilliam, b. ca. 1750 Prince Edward Co., VA, d. 15 June 1821 Sumner Co., TN; md. 16 Dec. 1772 Goochland Co., VA to Frances Hopkins, b. ca. 1750 Goochland Co., VA, d. 19 July 1823 Sumner Co., TN 3) Martha Taylor Gilliam, b. 3 Feb. 1786 Goochland Co., VA, d. 14 May 1860 Marshall Co., TN; md. 25 Dec. 1805 Prince Edward Co., VA to Gideon Harris, b. 30 July 1772 Prince Edward Co., VA, d. 26 Oct. 1860 Marshall Co., TN (both buried in Harris Family Cemetery in Marshall Co., TN) 4) Gideon Lindsey Harris, b. 12 Dec. 1813 Wilson Co., TN, d. 11 March 1896 McNairy Co., TN (buried at Mars Hill Cemetery, McNairy Co., TN); md. 22 Nov. 1831 Maury Co., TN to Lucy Elizabeth Ledbetter, b. 14 Dec. 1814 Chatham Co., NC, d. 11 April 1856 McNairy Co., TN (buried Ledbetter Cemetery, Hardin Co., TN) 5) William Ashley Harris, b. 19 May 1849 Hardin Co., TN, d. 12 Mar. 1916 McNairy Co., TN; md. 18 Oct. 1868 McNairy Co., TN to Sarah Agatha Littlefield, b. 28 Oct. 1849 Jonesboro, MS, d. 7 Feb. 1940 Leapwood, McNairy Co., TN (both buried at Mars Hill Cemetery, McNairy Co., TN) 6) James David Harris, b. 9 Jan. 1871 McNairy Co., TN, d. 22 Sept. 1938 Marlow, OK (buried at Marlow Cemetery, Marlow, OK); md. 28 Oct. 1894 McNairy Co., TN to Docia Bell Pyron, b. 5 Oct. 1872 McNairy Co., TN, d. 1 Sept. 1944 Lyford, TX (buried at Combes, TX) 7) William Earl Harris, b. 8 Aug. 1895 McNairy Co., TN, d. 5 Jan. 1967 Cortez, CO; md. 12 Dec. 1915 Parker Co., TX to Orpha Antonia Hazel Garvin, b. 11 Nov. 1895 Jack Co., TX, d. 21 Dec. 1979 Cortez, CO (both buried at Dove Creek Cemetery, Dove Creek, CO)       HAWKINS-L Archives Archiver > HAWKINS > 1998-09 > 0906472697 From: Freddy Brown < [email protected]> Subject: [HAWKINS-L] Benjamin of Prince Edw. Co., Va. and Robert Hawkins of Amelia Co. , Va. Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 08:58:17 -0500 I am searching for information on a Benjamin Hawkins who in the Prince Edward Co., VA deed book #10, page 38 transfered land to his son Robert Hawkins in 1791. Robert is thought to be born in Amelia Co., Va. in 1770 and died in Sumner Co., TN Jan 19, 1840. He was married twice - 1st to Eliz. Smith 2nd to Sarah Frances Gilliam, dau. of James Gilliam and Frances Hopkins of Prince Edw. Co., VA. 1-- Robert HAWKINS (1770-1840) ,Amelia Co,Virginia 1st sp-Elizabeth SMITH ( -1806) 2-- John HAWKINS ( - ) 2-- Samuel HAWKINS ( - ) 2-- Benjamin HAWKINS ( - ) 2-- Abner Burke HAWKINS (1795-1828) sp-Julia Hoggart DOBBS (1800-1878) 2-- Allen Woodson HAWKINS (1797-1855) ,Prince Edward Co sp-Elizabeth BURCH ( - ) 2-- Nancy HAWKINS (1799- ) sp-John SADLER ( - ) 2-- Rebecca HAWKINS (1803-1851) Va. sp-William W. DUFFER (1796-1872) Va. 2-- Robert HAWKINS [Jr.] (1805- ) Va sp-Rosetta INYARD (1814- ) Tn 2-- Joshua HAWKINS ( - ) 2nd sp-Sarah Frances GILLIAM (1778-1867) ,Prince Edward Co,Virginia 2-- Frances HAWKINS (1809-1860) ,Prince Edward Co,Virginia sp-James HUNT [Jr.] (1805-1866) ,Tennessee 2-- Elizabeth S. HAWKINS (1810-1849) sp-Henry L. JONES (1808- ) ,Tn. 2-- James R. HAWKINS (1811-1881) sp-Jane "Jensy" DAVIS (1817-1853) sp-Martha Susan BUNDY (1829-1892) Tn 2-- Amy D. HAWKINS (1813-1840) sp-James Gilliam WEBB (1808-1895) Va 2-- William B. HAWKINS (1815- ) sp-Elizabeth A. (1824- ) 2-- Charles Taylor HAWKINS (1817-1886) Prince Edw. Co,Va sp-Matilda TURNER (1825-1898) Sumner Co,Tn 2-- Joseph Gilliam HAWKINS (1818-1891) ,Virginia sp-Ann Caroline DAVIS (1825-1851) sp-Eliza Jane TALLEY (1829-1888) ,Smith Co.,Tn. 2-- Sarah H. HAWKINS (1821-1847) sp-Giles Claiborne HARRIS (1815-1889) Wilson Co,Tn 2-- Richard Gilliam HAWKINS (1821-1886) sp-Eleanor Armstrong DAVIS (1827-1884) 2-- Stephen Rice Gilliam HAWKINS (1827-1913) Sumner Co,Tn sp-Mary Amanda ROBERTSON (1830-1885) sp-Rebecca LAMB (1835-1915) Any information on these families is appreciated Freddy Brown    

Does anyone know where the Great Fork is located in Amelia Co? Amelia Co. Land Patent Book 21-294: Richard Harris and Richard Weatherford, 800a, Amelia Co., both sides Flatt Cr., bounded by Edward Jones, Watson & the Great Fork (p. 295) 30 Jun 1743. (William Lindsay Hopkins, "Virginia Land Patent Book 21, Pages 1-674 (1743)" in MAGAZINE OF VIRGINIA GENEALOGY, Vol. 26, No 3, August 1988, p. 222) Amelia Co. VA Deed Book 2 p. 220 Deed. Richard Harris & Richard (X) Wetherford to Samuel Martin d. 17 jan 1745 14£ wit: George Currie & Benjamin Hawkins. 200 a s/s Flatt Creek, bounded in part by Foster’s cor. & line & a branch rec. 17 jan 1745 (McConnaughey) Amelia co, VA Deed Book 2 p. 238 Deed of lease. Richard Harris of Amelia Co. & Richard Wetherford of Goochland Co. to George Foster of Raleigh Parish 16 jan 1745 5 shillings wit: George Currie & Benjamin Hawkins. 600a in two tracts: (1) 400a bounded in part by n/s Flatt Creek & the great fork; (2) 200a bounded in part by Edward Jones’ cor & line & Flatt Creek rec 17 jan 1745 (McConnaughey) Amelia Co. Deed Book 3 p. 232 deed George Foster to Edward Silva 16 jun 1749 3000 lbs. tobacco 200a adj. Joseph Ward’s upper cor. on the river, lines of Matthew Harris, Osborne & Townes, a branch, Richard Booker’s cor. on the river & the river. no wit. Rec. 16 jun 1749 (another deed places Matthew Harris in the vicinity of Sandy Creek, between Flatt Creek and the present-day line between Amelia Co. and Prince Edward & Cumberland Counties).

pat   again, trying to learn who our harris families were and to sort  this all out in regard to them in this amelia/ lunenburg cos, va area is proving to also be very involved and confusing as well.   i have not myself focused on this amelia co, va area, although  i am aware that others in our harris dna group 8 have.   the info does indicate,  again, that like this richard harris, this was hans hendrick, II, who was also in this same flatt creek  area of amelia co, va.   again, this was the same hendrick/ osborne family, etc, also  involved with my mackerness goode, sr and william harris, sr/ frances goode not just there in lunenburg co, va, but also on  into laurens co, sc, which i have cited and talked about  previously.   again, although i cannot say this for sure, this appears to be the  harris/ goode/ jefferson/ osborne line also tracing back to henrico co, va but whether this richard harris was related to this  same harris line and family or not,  i cannot say or identify him.   again, although my william harris, sr/ frances goode and my mackerness goode, sr is shown to have been involved with  these same families i.e the hendrick and osbornes, and even  the jeffersons, etc, this, as our harris dna shows, is not my  harris line and family.   here, again, is some of this info showing, again, as i say that hans hendrick, II, was also in this same flatt creek area of amelia co, va and his amelia co, va will showing that he had daughters:  sarah hendrick goode and elizabeth hendrick osborne.   again, this was this same hans hendrick, II's son, hans hendrick, III, who married margaret wynn, daughter of col william wynn/ frances reade, who also moved to laurens co, sc and who continued to be involved there with my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers and his brother-in-law, patrick cunningham, per the laurens co, sc deeds i have posted previously and talked about.   again, the same henry isbell, who was also involved with hans hendrick,II, in this flatt creek area of amelia co, va was the same henry isbell, who witnessed the 1761 lunenburg co, va deed wherein john gilliam, the elder, and his son, robert gilliam of prince george co, va sold the land on twitty's creek to our edward harris, sr, whose sons stephen harris and edward harris, jr also moved to laurens co, sc and whose harris descendants are a harris group 8 dna match.   so, again, this is really involved re these connections, etc.   2.      Hance Hendrick II  (c1690s? - 1773)   Hance Hendrick “Jr.” is mentioned as a landowner in a 1718  patent in King William County[24].  He evidently acquired the land by deed, now lost.  As mentioned above, a 1725 patent in King William to “Hance Hendrick Jun.” was entered the same day as Hance  Hendrick Sr.’s, for land in the same neighborhood.   Hance Jr.’s land was apparently on the part of Boot  Swamp that became Caroline County.  On 16 June 1738, as Hance Hendrick of Caroline County, he  patented 400 acres on Mayes Branch of Flatt Creek in  Amelia County[25].  By 25 July 1746 he was Hance  Hendrick “Senior”, when he filed two patents[26] for  another 200 acres on Mayes Branch of Flatt Creek and 304 acres on Flatt Creek in Amelia County.  The patent for 304 acres was described as “beginning at his son Hans Hendrick’s corner hickory”.  Hance Hendrick Jr. (the 3rd) had  patented this land the same day[27].   He was married  to a woman named Rachel, possibly Rachel Hurt, at least by 1754 when she relinquished dower to his sale  of land to his brother.  He left a will in Amelia County  dated 20 January 1773[28].  He named his wife Rachel, and two sons:  Hance (the 3rd) and John.  Daughters named in the will were  Anne Hendrick, Elizabeth Osborne and Sarah Goode.   The will was witnessed by Benjamin Hendrick  (presumably his brother) and Obadiah and John Hendrick (presumably sons of Benjamin or Hance) as  well as Thomas Osborne (presumably Elizabeth’s husband).  Benjamin Hendrick and Thomas Osborne  were named executors   again, i am also still trying to learn and/ or figure out myself------- was this sarah hendrick goode, daughter of this hans hendrick, II,  the wife of my mackerness goode, sr or his son, our  mackerness goode, jr and if not, who was she?   again, this was my mackerness goode, sr, wife, sarah, who sold land to reps osborne, who was part of this same  hendrick/ osborne family, per the following lunenburg co, va  deed.   i know that this was my mackerness goode, sr because he  signed his name with a mark and our mackerness goode, jr  did sign his name.   lunenburg co, va deed book 3,  page 156, 1752,   mackerness goode of lunenburg to reps osborne of  same for 5 pds a certain tract of land of 165 acres on  both sides of the bluestone creek, part of a larger  patent to mackerness goode. signed:  mackerness goode, with a mark. no witnesses.  sarah, wife of  mackerness goode, relinquished her right of dower.    to be continued:   belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8--------26910         --- On Tue, 9/23/08, Patricia Seaver <[email protected]> wrote: From: Patricia Seaver <[email protected]> Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Richard Harris Amelia Co, VA To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 11:50 AM Does anyone know where the Great Fork is located in Amelia Co? Amelia Co. Land Patent Book 21-294: Richard Harris and Richard Weatherford, 800a, Amelia Co., both sides Flatt Cr., bounded by Edward Jones, Watson & the Great Fork (p. 295) 30 Jun 1743. (William Lindsay Hopkins, "Virginia Land Patent Book 21, Pages 1-674 (1743)" in MAGAZINE OF VIRGINIA GENEALOGY, Vol. 26, No 3, August 1988, p. 222) Amelia Co. VA Deed Book 2 p. 220 Deed. Richard Harris & Richard (X) Wetherford to Samuel Martin d. 17 jan 1745 14£ wit: George Currie & Benjamin Hawkins. 200 a s/s Flatt Creek, bounded in part by Foster’s cor. & line & a branch rec. 17 jan 1745 (McConnaughey) Amelia co, VA Deed Book 2 p. 238 Deed of lease. Richard Harris of Amelia Co. & Richard Wetherford of Goochland Co. to George Foster of Raleigh Parish 16 jan 1745 5 shillings wit: George Currie & Benjamin Hawkins. 600a in two tracts: (1) 400a bounded in part by n/s Flatt Creek & the great fork; (2) 200a bounded in part by Edward Jones’ cor & line & Flatt Creek rec 17 jan 1745 (McConnaughey) Amelia Co. Deed Book 3 p. 232 deed George Foster to Edward Silva 16 jun 1749 3000 lbs. tobacco 200a adj. Joseph Ward’s upper cor. on the river, lines of Matthew Harris, Osborne & Townes, a branch, Richard Booker’s cor. on the river & the river. no wit. Rec. 16 jun 1749 (another deed places Matthew Harris in the vicinity of Sandy Creek, between Flatt Creek and the present-day line between Amelia Co. and Prince Edward & Cumberland Counties). ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello. There is a good possibility that my Harris ancestors [ Capt William Harris (the one who lived on Hickory Creek, VA ) who married Mary Hudson could be linked to the Harris/Knight DNA group 2. I have very little information about Sarah Wright or Nathan Harris. Can someone fill me in on some data please. The connection to this family is by Susannah Harris [dau of Capt William and Mary Hudson Harris, who married John Gunter. Their son, Thomas N. Gunter married Mary 'Polly' Ware. She is part of the WARE family who intermarried with Cole, McGehee, Almond, Gunter, etc. These families lived in Louisa County, Va and who knows where else. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Peggy in CA **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

To those Harris-Hunters and descendants of Madison Co., KY who think they may have connections to the Dabney family [of Huguenot origin]. This is to notify you that if you have access to Ancestry.com through your local library--or perhaps your personal subscription--the several volumes of the Edward Pleasants Valentine Papers have been incorporated. His abstracts are generally of families of colonial Virginia--who may have been collaterals of some of your Virginia families. Take a look, if you can. My understanding is these pages concerning Dabney family appear: Vol. I - pages 396-429 Also a later volume [not identified by me yet] Pages 2254-2256, the latter being taken from St. Peter's Parish Vestry Book, New Kent Co., VA Also, if you have access to the online genealogical database HeritageQuest through your local [or nearby or State] library the several volumes of Edward Pleasants Valentine papers also appear there. Here is a *copy and paste* I took from the latter source. If Dabneys do not interest you, perhaps other surnames will. Oh, yes - I have a few notes on these surnames in Granville Co., NC, colonial times. Langston, Satterwhite A few notes on Womack of colonial Goochland Co., Henrico Co. and I believe of Cumberland Co., VA. E.W.Wallace Valentine, Edward Pleasants, [_View Hits_ (http://persi.heritagequestonline.com.ezproxy.lapl.org/hqoweb/library/do/books/results/fullcitation?urn=urn :proquest:US;glhbooks;Genealogy-glh14046792;-1;-1;) ] [_View Image_ (http://persi.heritagequestonline.com.ezproxy.lapl.org/hqoweb/library/do/books/results/ image?urn=urn:proquest:US;glhbooks;Genealogy-glh14046792;-1;-1;) ] The Edward Pleasants Valentine papers : abstracts of records in the local and general archives of Virginia relating to the families of Allen, Bacon, Ballard, Batchelder, Blouet, Brassieur (Brashear), Cary, Crenshaw, Dabney, Exum, Ferris, Fontaine, Gray, Hardy, Isham (Henrico County), Jordan, Langston, Lyddall, Mann, Mosby, Palmer, Pasteur, Pleasants, Povall, Randolph, Satterwhite, Scott, Smith (the family of Francis Smith of Hanover County), Valentine, Waddy, Watts, Winston, Womack, Woodson. Baltimore: Genealogical Pub. Co., 1979, 2784 pgs. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)