e.w. posted the following deed re robert harris, sr and jr being involved with this martin baker there in hanover co, va.   In a message dated 11/15/2008 10:51:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  writes: Another Hanover Co.,  VA record involving James Harris P. 98-100 James Harris of Hanover Co. to Martin Baker of Co.  afsd; Lease  and release; 24 pds. Currt. money of Va. 150 a of woodland ground lying in  second fork of Pamunkey River on the North side of the Little  River...beginning at a corner oak on the north side of the River... corner  of William Hendricks. James Harris Wit: Robert Harris, Robert Harris Jr.,  Wm. Harris 5 July 1734 ack. by James Harris also Elizabeth the wife of sd.  Harris relinquished all her right of dower. ( this william hendrick would have been part of the pamunkey hendrick family and before i get into some other things here, i want to point out again that i have both the pamunkey hendrick and the pamunkey davenport family involved with my harris family even on into laurens co, sc.)   both pat and wanda responded to this deed.   pat  responded saying that the robert harris, sr and jr here involved with martin baker are not indicated to have  been the robert harris, sr/ jr who are part of harris dna group 6.   again, we definitely also, as part of harris dna group 8, have a  robert harris, sr/ jr, who are also there in hanover co, va and who are indicated to be part of our harris dna group 8 family.   again, we know that there was a robert harris, sr and jr involved  with carol's thomas harris also of st martin's parish, hanover co, va/ orange co, va, and who  was the same robert harris, sr/ jr  involved also  with patte wood's stephen davis, and who has connections  also with her families also to hanover co, va; prince edward co, va and charlotte co, va, and charlotte co, va and the same robert harris, sr/ jr  also involved  with the depriest family.   again, pat just recently added this info, which shows that robert harris and robert depriest, etc, appraised the estate of this issac morris there in 1751 in hanover co, va.   i have renoted, which, again, is certainly interesting, that the same paul r. l. vance, who descends from this isaac morris, is also interested in the same william price/ wife, nancy, who were also involved with our charles harris/ jane cannon from pendleton co, sc on into cobb/ paulding cos, ga.   again, our jane cannon harris filed for a war of 1812 widow's pension re our charles harris in 1872 in paulding co, ga and it  was this william price's wife, nancy, and john calvin price, who were living in 1872 in haralson co, va who gave the affadavits stating that our charles harris and jane cannon were married in 1807 in pendleton co, sc.   again, william price, wife, nancy; joseph murdock/ celia ann cannon, younger sister of our jane cannon harris, were enumerated in proximity to my arch harris/ elizabeth carter per this 1834 ga state census for cobb co, ga.   here is the info pat recently posted:     Court Held May 17, 1751 Robert Depriest, Robert Harris,**********  Thomas Pore and  George Turner, or any three, to appraise and value estate of   Isaac Morris in Hanover Co. and make return _____________________________________________________________ These are similar name  connections to the Prince Edward deeds of  Robert  Harris with wife Elizabeth,  and Robert  Depriest:; Thomas Poor was married to Susannah Estes of Abraham, and their daughter  Elizabeth Poor was married to a Harris. In 1770, Elizabeth Poore Harris  deposed about something that was  49 years back, so 1729  at least for her as a child  observing Abraham  Estes' (d ca 1720) younger children coming to live with her father.   .  Her sibs seem to be born 1697 -1725. The Poor/Poore family lived in St. Martin's PH, Hanover, VA.  That Robert Harris and Thomas Harris are signing with marks,  so not the  surveyor who moved on to Albemarle and died  there 1765.   the info wherein paul r. l. vance shows his interest also in this  isaac morris of hanover co, va can be found on the morris  forum # 5180:   Carrol I am a descendant of Rhoda Morris, Leah's sister. Rhoda was  my g-g-g-g grandmother. I also am looking for Isaac's parents. Would like to trade family data and co- ordinate searches. Rhoda had a grandson named Dabney  League. Sure would like to know the connection. My e-mail is [email protected] Paul R. L. Vance then, the following post also shows paul r. l. vance's interest in  the price family also significantly involved with our charles harris/ jane cannon and my arch harris/ elizabeth carter from sc on into ga.   this post can be found on the cannon forum # 2942:   posted by Paul R. L Vance: Help!! I am researching the Price family that came from SC to Carroll Co., GA in the 1830's. Exploring the connection between the Prices and the Cannons, and Harris of Pendleton. Jane Cannon and Charles (Charley) Harris were married in  Pendleton in 1807/1808. Over 60 years later, in 1873,  Nancy Price and her brother-in-law, John C. Price made affidavits that they were at the wedding of this couple, or in the  case of John C., knew that they were married. I do not know who their parents were. I do know that the Nancy Price that made the affidavit was living with her husband, William Price, were in the 1810 census of Pendleton. I am working now on the theory that there was some family  connection between the three families in order for them to still be in touch some 65 years later. Might not be a connection but it seems more than possible. Anyone searching these families or have any suggestions for me.                                                    #   per the 1810 census pendleton co, sc, william price/ nancy were enumerated in close proximity to our richard cannon, father of our jane cannon harris.   again, our richard cannon, brother of russell cannon also near him on this 1810 pendleton co, sc census, were the sons of our simcock cannon/ jane rudd.    i think these are interesting connections and i agree with paul vance that it is significant for william price/ nancy to have been involved with our charles harris/ jane cannon and our cannon  family in pendleton co, sc and that quite a number of years later  william price's wife, nancy, and his brother, john calvin price,  would give these affadavits in ga re  our charles harris and jane cannon being married in pendleton co, sc    again, also interesting that paul r. l. vance would be interested in this same isaac morris also involved with robert harris and robert depriest in hanover co, va and, then, again, also with our price/ harris/ cannon families from pendleton co, sc on into cobb/ paulding cos, ga.     belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8------26910          

I thought while this was fresh on your minds that I would throw out my Harris/Baker connection.  If anyone should know who her parents are, please let me know.      Elias Henry Harris married Sarah Frances Spencer b: July 21, 1813 Buckingham, VA Sarah's Parents:  William T. Spencer, born March 22, 1774 and  Elizabeth Harris Baker born October 17, 1786 Elias' Parents: William C. Harris, born Oct 12, 1781 and Judith Grizzle/Griswold, born abt 1784   Thanks, Fran Harris Hill Richmond, VA

Court Held May 17, 1751 Robert Depriest, Robert Harris,********** Thomas Pore and George Turner, or any three, to appraise and value estate of Isaac Morris in Hanover Co. and make return _____________________________________________________________ These are similar name connections to the Prince Edward deeds of Robert Harris with wife Elizabeth, and Robert Depriest:; Thomas Poor was married to Susannah Estes of Abraham, and their daughter Elizabeth Poor was married to a Harris. In 1770, Elizabeth Poore Harris deposed about something that was 49 years back, so 1729 at least for her as a child observing Abraham Estes' (d ca 1720) younger children coming to live with her father. . Her sibs seem to be born 1697 -1725. The Poor/Poore family lived in St. Martin's PH, Hanover, VA. That Robert Harris and Thomas Harris are signing with marks, so not the surveyor who moved on to Albemarle and died there 1765. **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001)

again, like carol's thomas harris, patte wood's ancestor stephen davis was also involved with the same robert harris and the depriest family there in hanover/ amelia/ prince edward cos, va.   as also shown, per patte wood's posts, patte is also interested in the morton family of prince edward co, va who were also involved with harris family in charlotte co, va.   this is the same morton family, who were also involved with my simcock cannon, grandfather of my jane cannon harris, wife of my charles harris, also in prince edward/ charlotte cos, va.   again, my charles harris, son of my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers, who died in 1799 laurens co, sc, son of our william harris, sr/ frances goode, who were in lunenburg co, va by 1746, married our jane cannon in 1807 in pendleton co, sc.   here is the info from patte wood:   May 7, 1770     Wm Epperson from Charles Harris 2 290  Charlotte County, VA 160 acres head branch of Wards Fork originally purchased from Joseph Morton by Harris. Also, Carlos Wood, son of Joseph Wood and Martha Epperson married a Glassery/Glaffery Bailey 1798 in Charlotte county.  Her sister, Polly, married Robert Harris, son of Capt. Robert Harris in Charlotte County 6 June 1803.  Polly Harris is mentioned as recently deceased in a letter from Carlos Wood to his daughter Mary Venon Wood in 1828 shortly before he died.   (william harris/ judith hudson also had a son robert harris but how or if this captain robert harris of charlotte co, va was related to their son, robert harris, i do not know.) If you find information on this Harris family or any Morton/Davis/Wood/Epperson or Watkins families, please let me know. Stephen Davis's heirs ended up living near  John and Joseph Morton's families in families in Prince Edward and Charlotte counties.  I also have an Elizabeth Davis marrying a Morton that I have not been able to connect to yet.   In our family the name Davis or James Morton Wood was commonly given as well as Elizabeth Crenshaw Davis but I have not found a Morton or Crenshaw direct link. Patte Wood                                            #   again, in regard to the crenshaws, this was our william harris/ mary giles' brother edward harris, who was the guardian of david alvis in hanover co, va.   this david alvis was the son of george alvis and his wife, mary, said to have been a crenshaw.   george alvis, who had previously also remarried alice, widow, of our major william harris of henrico co, va, was the step-father of our william harris/ mary giles and his brother, edward harris. here is the info also showing that my simcock cannon was also involved with this same morton family also there in prince edward co, va.   per amelia county road orders book 1735 -1753 by nathaniel mason pawlett, on may 17, 1751, O.S, page 322, page 72 of 157: simcock cannon; ellis palmer; isaac chandler; and john morton are ordered to assist in clearing a road from atwood's plantation on bryery river to roanoke road and ambrose eastis, surveyor of same.   again, ellis palmer, who married ann rudd and who was the brother-in-law of my simcock cannon/ jane rudd, died in 1800 in edgefield co, sc.   again, purchasers of ellis palmer's estate sale there in 1800 in edgefield co, sc included daniel mckie, jr and michael blocker/ rosannah griffin, whose son redding blocker was enumerated adjacent my arch harris/ elizabeth carter per this 1834 ga state census for cobb co, ga.   surely, these are, indeed really involved and interesting connections.     belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8-------26910  

here are the deeds again involving carol's thomas harris and this stephen davis with this robert harris and the depriest family.   again patte wood, who descends from this stephen davis, who, again, like carol's thomas harris and this robert harris, were involved with the depriest family, is also interested in her wood family, the morton family of prince edward co, va and harris family also of charlotte co, va.   Carol wrote: What happened to that Falling Cr. P.E. Co. land that my Tho Jr sold back to Robt Harris of Hanover?    this particular version of these deeds was posted by lynda soRelle, whose ancestor george harris/ william harris is also a harris dna group 8 match.    Robert Harris sold this land to Stephen Davis, who, at some point between the initial deed where Robert Harris sold the land to Thomas Harris and the final deed, obtained the land from Harden (named in the initial and second deed)   Also, according to the deeds, the north fork of Falling Creek is, in the final deed, referred to as Lockett's Creek. This is a good example where it is good to have the complete deed rather than an abstraction.     Amelia Co., VA, DB 3, page 92-94, 23 Jun 1748 This indenture made the twenty third day of June in the year of our Lord Christ one thousand seven hundred and forty eight between Robert Harris of the parish of Saint Martin in the County of Hanover of the one part and Thomas Harris of the parish and County aforesaid of the other part. Witnesseth that the said Robert Harris for and in consideration of the sum of twenty five pounds current money of Virginia to him in hand paid by the said Thomas Harris the receipt he the said Robert Harris do hereby acknowledge he the said Robert Harris have granted bargained and sold aliened and confirmed and by these presents do grant bargain and sell alien confirm unto the said Thomas Harris his heirs and assigns forever one certain tract or parcel of land containing four hundred acres situate lying and being in the County of Amelia on the south side of the North fork of Falling Creek and bounded as followeth (to wit). Beginning on the said fork in Randolphs line thence along his line west nine degrees north ninety seven poles to his corner red oak thence south six degrees east sixty poles to Hardons corner thence along his lines west fourteen degrees  south two hundred and fifty six poles to his corner thence north two hundred and two poles to a corner ash on the said fork and thence down the said forks as it meanders to the beginning and also all trees woods underwoods tithe commons common of pasture profits commodities advatages heridetaments waies waters and appurtenances whatsoever to the said four hundred acres of land above mentioned belonging or any wise appertaining and also the reversion and reversions remainder and remainders rents and services of the said premises and of every part thereof and all the estate right title interest claim and demand whatsoever of of him the said Robert Harris of in and to the said tract or parcel of four hundred acres of land and premises and ever part thereof. To have and to hold the said land and all and singular other the premises above mentioned and every part and parcel thereof with the appurtenances unto the said Thomas Harris his heirs and assigns to the only proper use and behoof of the said Thomas Harris his heirs and assigns forever and the said Robert Harris for himself and his heirs the said tract or parcel of four hundred acres of land and premises and every part thereof against himself and his heirs and against all and every other person and persons whatsoever to the said Thomas Harris his heirs and assigns shall and will warrant and for ever defend by these presents. In witness whereof I the said Robert Harris have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal the day the day and year first above written. Robert Harris   Wit: George Harris, Stephen Harris, Harrison Depriest    ==============   Prince Edward Co., VA , DB 2, p. 8-9, 16 May 1763 This indenture made this 16th day of May one thousand seven hundred & sixty three between Thomas Harris Jur and his wife Saborey Harris of the county of Louisa of the one part and Robt Harris of the county of Hanover Parish of St. Martain of the other part Witnesseth that the said Thomas Harris Junr and his wife Saborey Harris for and in consideration of the sum of seventy pounds current money of Virginia to him in hand paid by the said Robt Harris the receipt whereof they the said Thomas Harris Junr and his wife Saborey Harris do hereby acknowledge they the sd Thomas Harris Junr and his wife Saborey Harris have granted bargained and sold aliened and confirmed  and by these presents do grant bargain and sell alien and confirm unto the said Robt Harris his heirs and assigns forever one certain tract or parcel of land lying and being in the county of Prince Edward and bounded as follows (to wit) Lying and being on the south side of the north fork of falling creek beginning on the said fork in Randolphs line thence along his line west nine degrees north ninety seven poles to his corner red oak, thence south six degrees east sixty poles to Hardens line(struck out) corner thence along his line west fourteen degrees south two hundred and fifty six poles to his corner thence north two hundred and two poles to a corner ash on the said fork thence down the fork as it meanders to the beginning. Containing by estimation four hundred acres be the same more or less and now lays contiguous and joining on the lands aforesaid and also all trees woods underwoods common profits commodities advantages hereditements ways waters and appurtenances whatsoever to the said four hundred acres of land more or less as above mentioned belonging or anywise to belong or appertaining and also the reversion and reversions remainder and remainders rents & services of the said land and premises and of every part & parcel thereof and all the estate right title interest claim and demand whatsoever of them the said Thomas Harris & his wife Saborey Harris of in and to the said tract or parcel of land as above mentioned belonging or anyways appertaining and also the revertion & reversions remainder & remainders tents & services of the land & premises and of every part & parcel thereof and all the estate right title interest claim and demand whatsoever of them the said Thomas Harris Junr and his wife Saborey Harris of in an to the said tract or parcel of land as above mentioned and every part & parcel thereof to have and to hold the said land and premises as above mentioned and every part & parcel thereof with the appurtenances unto the sd Robert Harris his heirs and assigns forever and they the said Thomas Harris Junr & his wife Saborey Harris doth for themselves their heirs the tract of land & premises as above mentioned & every part & parcel thereof against themselves &their heirs and against every other person & persons whatsoever to the said Robert Harris his heirs & assigns for ever and they the said Thomas Harris Junr and his wife Saborey Harris doth agree for themselves and their heirs do warrant and for ever maintain a good right & title of the sd land & premises as above mentioned and unto the said Robert Harris his heirs and assigns forever. In witness whereof we have hereunto set our hands by affixed our seals the day and year first above written. Thos  [ H]    Harris  /s/   ========== Prince Edward Co., VA, DB 4, p. 73-75, 1 July 1771 This indenture made this thirty first day of July in the year of our Lord Christ one thousand seven hundred seventy one between Robert Harris and Elizabeth his wife of St. Martins Parish in the county of Hanover of the one part and Stephen Davis of parish and county above said of the other part, witnesseth that the said Robert Harris and Elizabeth his wife for and in consideration of the sum of one hundred pounds current money of Virginia to them in hand paid by the said Stephen Davis the receipt whereof they the said Robert Harris and Elizth his wife doth hereby acknowledge that they the said Robert Harris and Elizabeth his wife have granted bargained sold aliened and confirmed and by these presents doth grant bargain sell alien and confirm unto the said Stephen Davis his heirs and assigns forever one certain tract or parcel of land lying and being in the county of Prince Edward on Lockets Creek the south side, and bounded as followeth to wit, beginning at the said Lockets Creek in Randolph’s line thence along his line west 9 degrees north 97 poles to his corner red oak, thence south six degrees east sixty poles to said Davis corner thence along his line west 14 degrees south two hundred and fifty six poles to his corner, thence north two hundred and two poles to a corner ash on the said Lockets Creek and thence down the said creek as it meanders to the beginning, including four hundred acres of land as by the patent appears, be the same more or less and also all trees underwoods profits commodities  advantages hereditaments ways waters and appurtenances and whatsoever to the said four hundred acres of land be the same more or less as above mentioned. It being all the land that the said Robert Harris and Elizabeth his wife owns and possesses in Pr Edwd county and also the remainder and remainders, reversion and reversions rents and services of the said land and premises of every part and parcel thereof and all the estate right title interest claim and demand whatsoever of them the said Robert Harris and Elizabeth his wife in and to the said tract or parcel of land above mentioned and every part and parcel thereof. To have and to hold the said tract or parcel of land above mentioned and every part and parcel thereof with the appurtenances unto the said Stephen Davis his heirs and assigns forever, and the said Robert Harris and Elizabeth his wife for themselves their heirs, the said tract or parcel of four hundred acres of land  be the same more or less as above mentioned and every part and parcel thereof with the premises against themselves and their heirs  and assigns and against all and every person and persons whatsoever. To the only proper use and behoof of the said Stephen Davis his heirs and assigns forever, and the said Robert Harris & Elizabeth his wife for themselves and their heirs and assigns doth warrant and will forever defend by these presents the right and title of the said land and premises above mentioned to the said Stephen Davis his heirs and assigns forever by these presents. In witness whereof the said Robert Harris and Elizabeth his wife hath set their hands and affixed their seals the day and year first above written. Robert [ R ] Harris  /s/  Wit: Charles Crenshaw, Robert Depriest, Jennings Pulliam   ========== to be continued:     belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8-------26910

here is futher info re william depriest/ judith randolph, parents of mary depriest, who married george sutherland, who, again, is definitely indicated to have been the same george sutherland, who paid the security  and witnessed samuel harris' 1799 pittsylvania co, will and his father robert depriest, wife, elizabeth of new kent/ hanover cos, va.   again, carol's ancestor thomas harris of hanover and orange cos, va and this stephen davis, patte wood's ancestor,  were also involved with this robert harris and the depriest family. Strickland/Davis/Cooley Genealogy by Jo Ann Entries: 681    Updated: 2007-12-26 16:25:01 UTC (Wed)    Contact: Jo Ann Index | Descendancy | Register | Download GEDCOM | Add Post-em ID: I039 Name: Robert DEPRESST\DEPRIEST Sex: M Birth: ABT. 1660 in France Death: ABT. 1710 in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent Co., VA NATI: French Emigration: BEF. 1689 From France to Virginia Religion: French Huguenot Note: ROBERT DEPRESST/DEPRIEST was born in France about 1660 and died about 1710 in St. Peters Parish, New Kent Co., VA He was married twice, first to Elizabeth AKA Eliza, (maiden name unknown) who died 27 September 1689 in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent Co., VA. He then married Mary (maiden name unknown) about 1690. Robert was a French Huguenot and immigrated to Virginia before 1689. The earliest mention of him in Virginia is found in the S. Peter's Parish Vestry Book when the land of Robert DePresst was among the property to be processed. Based on the date of immigration, he was probably among the group of Huguenots sent to the New World by the British government to quiet unrest in England over the Huguenots who had arrived from France taking prime English jobs. The location of his birth is unknown, but he probably came from the south of France where several villages were designated "free cities" for Protestant worship by the Edit of Nantes. Robert DePriest most likely left France for England in 1685 when the Edict of Nantes was revoked and violence broke out against the Huguenots. Robert DePriest settled in New Kent Co., VA and by 1704 he owned 354 acres of land (VA 1704 Quit Rent Rolls for New Kent Co.) The early records of the DePriest family are contained in the St. Peter's Parish records. When St. James' Parish was formed from St. Peter's Parish, Robert Depriest's land fell into the new parish. Later his land would fall into the newly created Hanover County. At the time of his death, the DePriests lived on or near the Pamunkey River, near the present day boundaries of Hanover, New Kent and King William Counties. Robert DePriest is one of approximately 450 people whose origins have been proved to the standards of National Huguenot Society and all of his descendants are eligible for membership in the Society. Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown Children Guillaume (William) DEPRIEST b: 25 SEP 1689 in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent Co., VA Marriage 2 ELIZABETH b: ABT. 1665 in VA Married: 1687 in New Kent Co., VAChildren Guillaume (William) DEPRIEST b: 25 SEP 1689 in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent Co., VA Marriage 3 MARY Married: ABT. 1690 in New Kent Co., VAChildren Mary DEPRESST\DEPRIEST b: 9 NOV 1690 John DEPRESST\DEPRIEST b: ABT. 1692 Robert DEPRESST\DEPRIEST b: ABT. 1694 Sarah DEPRESST\DEPRIEST b: 4 NOV 1698 Elizabeth DEPRESST\DEPRIEST b: 19 JUL 1702 Strickland/Davis/Cooley Genealogy by Jo Ann Entries: 681    Updated: 2007-12-26 16:25:01 UTC (Wed)    Contact: Jo Ann My information is from several different areas, personal knowledge, family members, cemeteries and the hard work of others who so graciously shared their information via the internet. There is a wealth of information here, both my parents line. I hope it will be helpful to you. Additions and corrections will be gratefully accepted. Index | Descendancy | Register | Pedigree | Ahnentafel | Download GEDCOM | Add Post-em ID: I035 Name: Guillaume (William) DEPRIEST Sex: M Birth: 25 SEP 1689 in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent Co., VA Birth: 25 SEP 1689 Death: 2 MAR 1737/38 in Manakin, Goochland Co., VA Note: GUILLAUME "WILLIAM" DEPRIEST lived in Hanover Co., Va until 1734 when he purchased 200 acres on Lickinghole Creek in Goochland Co., VA from William Swift. The following is an entry from Goochland Co., VA: 17June 1755-Randolph DePriest, William DePriest, George Southerland and John Salmon are held firmly bound to John Hodges for 100 lbs. Condition of the above obligation is such that whereas the above bound, Randolph DePriest, William DePriest, George Southerland, and John Salmon have this day agreed with the said John Hodges who intermarried with the widow of William Depriest, Deed and mother of the above bound Randolph DePriest, William DePriest, wives of George Southerland, John Salmon that the wife of John Hodges is to have one Feather bed, and the furniture thereunto belonging and one iron pot of the estate of William DePriest and the above bound Randolph DePriest, William DePriest, George Southerland, John Salmon and the infants Robert DePriest and John DePriest the remaining part of the estate now to be found by John Hodges and Judith, his wife, signed: Randolph DePriest, William DePriest, George (X) Southerland, John (X) Salmon, Witnesses: John Smith and Frances Smith. (Deed Book 7, pg 13) Father: Robert DEPRESST\DEPRIEST b: ABT. 1660 in France Mother: ELIZABETH b: ABT. 1665 in VA Father: Robert DEPRESST\DEPRIEST b: ABT. 1660 in France Marriage 1 JUDITH b: ABT. 1708 in Probably Virginia Married: ABT. 1715 in Probably VAChildren William DEPRIEST b: ABT. 1732 in Manakin, Goochland Co., VA Randolph DEPRIEST b: ABT. 1728 Mary DEPRIEST b: ABT. 1732 John DEPRIEST b: ABT. 1733 Naomi DEPRIEST b: ABT. 1734 Robert DEPRIEST b: ABT. 1736     to be continued:     belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8-------26910  

the info i found on the depriest family, but can also be found on other rootsweb sites, was from the following site re this william depriest.   again, this info definitely indicates that the george sutherland, who is called george sutherland, III, here, and who married mary depriest, was the same george sutherland, called george sutherland, jr in pittsylvania co, va and who witnessed and paid the security re samuel harris' 1799 pittsylvania co, va will.   William DePriest William DePriest was born in Hanover Co., VA about 1733. ... Thomas Davenport) in Cumberland County and he will do more for you than all the ... www.lelawhisnant.net/journeysthrutime/ id32.htm - Cached   10. MARY3 DEPRIEST (WILLIAM2, ROBERT (DEPRESS)1) was born Abt. 1731 in Goochland Co., VA, and died Unknown. She married GEORGE SUTHERLAND III Abt. 1755. He was born Abt. 1730 in of Goochland Co., Va., and died Abt. June 18, 1804 in Pittsylvania Co., VA..       Children of MARY DEPRIEST and GEORGE SUTHERLAND are: 28. i.   JOHN4 SUTHERLAND, SR., b. July 19, 1752, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia; d. September 07, 1836, Tuscumbia, Alabama. 29. ii.   GEORGE SUTHERLAND IV, b. Abt. 1753; d. Unknown. 30. iii.   THOMAS SUTHERLAND I, b. Abt. 1754; d. Unknown.   iv.   WILLIAM DEPRIEST SUTHERLAND, b. Abt. 1755, Pittsylvania Co., Va.; d. Unknown; m. NANCY GWIN, November 29, 1785, Pittsylvania Co., Va.; d. Unknown. 31. v.   ADAM SUTHERLAND, b. Abt. 1756, Pittsylvania, Co., Va.; d. Unknown. 32. vi.   JAMES SUTHERLAND, b. Abt. 1757; d. Abt. March 1812, Pittsylvania, Co., Va..   vii.   MILLIA SUTHERLAND, b. Abt. 1758; d. Unknown; m. (1) JOHN GWIN; d. Unknown; m. (2) MILLIA'S HUSBAND GWIN; d. Unknown.   viii.   ELIZABETH SUTHERLAND, b. Abt. 1759, Pittsylvania, Co., Va.; d. Unknown; m. (1) ELIZABETH'S HUSBAND MICKELBORROUGH; d. Unknown; m. (2) ROBERT MICKELBORROUGH, October 17, 1791; d. Unknown.   ix.   NANCY SUTHERLAND, b. Abt. 1760; d. Unknown; m. (1) MCDANIEL; d. Unknown; m. (2) NANCY'S HUSBAND MCDANIEL; d. Unknown.   x.   SALLY SUTHERLAND, b. Abt. 1761; d. Unknown; m. WILLIAM SMITH, August 19, 1787, Pitts Co., Va.; d. Unknown. here is also a copy again of samuel harris' 1799 pittsylvania co, va will.    HARRIS, SAMUEL D & W 11, P 222 D: January 13, 1799 Pittsylvania Co, VA Pr: December 16, 1799 NAMES: Son: Samuel- my lands including plantation lately occupied by my son, Benjamin. Also lands and houses I possess to be divided into three parts ....... Executors: Sons, Nathaniel and Benjamin Harris Witnesses: Christopher Conway, George Sutherland, Jun'r, Thomas Pistole, Sen'r, Allen Stokes, James McDonald s/ Sam Harris Will proved by Allen Stokes and James McDonald on motion of Benjamin Harris, Ex'r Sec: William Wilkinson, Abia Cheatham, William Payne, George Sutherlin, Jr., Nathaniel Harris joined in probate Dec. 16, 1799. Sec: William Clark, William Wimbish, John Carter. to be continued:   belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8------26910

i was actually looking for further info on the davenport family, which led me to info on the depriest family and i noted something interesting that i do not think we have noted or talked about before.   this george sutherland, jr both witnessed and paid the security re samuel harris' will in 1799 in pittsylvania co, va.   again, this was the same samuel harris, who william harris/ judith hudson sold the island/ plantation to in 1750 in lunenburg co, va, which was witnessed by john cargill, sr/ rachel tinsley and william hunt.   ----the same samuel harris, who was on the 1748/ 1749 early lunenburg co, va tithe list along with william harris/ judith hudson;  my william harris, sr/ frances goode; my mackerness goode, sr; peter hudson, sr; john wilborn, etc, and all in cornelius cargill's district, which is the area that became halifax co, va.   -----the same samuel harris, who, then, per the lunenburg co, va deeds i have cited in the past, continued to be involved with john cargill, sr/ rachel tinsley in this halifax co, va area and who, like my harris and goode family, obtained these ca 1770 grants in laurens co, sc where they continued to be significantly involved with each other there.   -----the same samuel harris, who married lucy camp, who  became col and, then, the noted baptist minister rev samuel harris, who stated that he was born in 1724 near the pamunkey river in hanover co, va and who died in 1799 in pittsylvania co, va.   i have noted, then, per info on the depriest family, that this george sutherlin/ sutherland, who, again, both witnessed and paid security re the will of samuel harris, is definitely indicated to have been the same george sutherland, who married mary depriest and who died in 1804  also in pittsylvania co, va.   mary depriest, per this info on the depriest family, was the daughter of william depriest/ judith randolph, son of robert depriest, wife, elizabeth, of new kent/ hanover cos, va.   again, carol barron's ancestor thomas harris is a harris dna match with our harris dna group 8 and carol's ancestor thomas harris of st martin's parish, hanover co, va was, along with this stephen davis, were also involved with this robert harris and the depriest family.   patte wood descends from this same stephen davis and besides her interest in stephen davis, patte is also interested in the morton family of prince edward co, va, who was also involved there with my simcock cannon, grandfather of my jane cannon harris, and also this captain robert harris in charlotte co, va.   to be continued:   belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8------26910

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Dear Wanda, See subject above. The discouraging words: I think you are going to have to do a good deal of research. My main Harris family of Albemarle Co. had left for Kentucky about 1786. The family of the James Harris-Mary Harris couple, whose will I believe I quoted [abstracted, of course] do not match your folks. Some suggestions: 1. Make out some time lines for these men, in order to keep them straight. In the timelines, note where they lived [the watercourse is a good pointer here] and with whom they associated. Some of the land records may give you some ideas of their associates. These were frequently in-laws, cousins, etc., or soon would be.!!! 2. If you cannot devote the time to reading the microfilms, which you probably can borrow from either the Library of Virginia or from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, you may have to ask the help -- and pay a fee or a healthy donation -- to the Albemarle Co. Historical or Genealogical Society. (I have had some wonderful results from such societies, but occasionally you meet a rebuff, especially in sparsely populated counties, which Albemarle is NOT [Univeristy of Virginia and Charlottesville, of course]. 3. If you can read the films, you may want to examine these records: a. Probate and guardianship records b. Land records - Most of our Virginia folks, at least the ones who left wills, generally had land and slaves. These were of value, and then the deeds may treat of the distribution of the property. These actions may take YEARS after the death, unless the children were all adults. Some might have lived out of state, and getting them together to distribute the property [or sell it] may take years. In some states, the indexes--grantor and grantee indexes-- alone have given me wonderful clues. And in general, because these deeds are still being used today, particularly by title searchers, the indexes are typed and alphabetized. Find the surnames of the family members, and if you find a notation beside the name *&c* or *Hrs.*, these deeds need further investigation. *&c* refers to *others* and Hrs = heirs!!! Those heirs may have come from North Carolina, from Tennessee, from Kentucky, and later from Missouri, etc. 3. Tax lists - many of which still exist. 4. Court records. Sometimes these will lead you to proper deeds. And sometimes people show up in court records or tax records but not in deeds nor probates. Genealogy is a tough hobby, but it does get in your blood after a while. You always want the answer to the next question which pops up in your mind. It may take decades to find the answers. Harris-Hunters are good, but... Example: I am going to a *show and tell* & potluck meal tomorrow about English and other UK & Irish ancestors. It has taken me decades to discover WHERE in England my maternal great-grandmother was a beerseller. The 1901 c ensus was released a few years ago, and here she pops up in a county where I had never looked and about my now deceased English cousins knew nothing--except a photo. I contacted the Record Office in that county and determined that they would do research for me, and would accept Master Card!!! So I did not have to make a trip to England to find this material. And, with my luck, the records are seldom where I anticipate it MAY be. Some counties in England have several record offices. And then they move!!! I wish you lots of luck with your more recent James Harris. A Harris-Hunter E.W.Wallace **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001)

*Sorry - click in the upper LEFT corner*. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Wanda Flesher <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > > > > > From Website: http://www.lelawhisnant.net/journeysthrutime/id32.htm* > > "William DePriest** *and > *Tabitha Toney"* > > *"William DePriest* was born in Hanover Co., VA about 1733. William died > 13 Mar 1768 in Anne Arundel Co., MD, at 34 years of age. > He married *Tabitha Toney* in VA, 6 Apr 1758 in Goochland Co., VA. > Tabitha was born in Goochland Co., VA 3 Apr 1729. Tabitha was the daughter > of Charles Toney and Elizabeth Harris. The Toneys were neighbors of the > DePriests on Lickinghole Creek." > > This is a very interesting site for your family. After reading the initial > page, click in the upper right corner for more info about Elizabeth Harris, > etc. > > Wanda Flesher > > > > > -- > For Freedom's Sake - Love God, Love America > -- For Freedom's Sake - Love God, Love America

** >From Website: http://www.lelawhisnant.net/journeysthrutime/id32.htm* "William DePriest** *and *Tabitha Toney"* *"William DePriest* was born in Hanover Co., VA about 1733. William died 13 Mar 1768 in Anne Arundel Co., MD, at 34 years of age. He married *Tabitha Toney* in VA, 6 Apr 1758 in Goochland Co., VA. Tabitha was born in Goochland Co., VA 3 Apr 1729. Tabitha was the daughter of Charles Toney and Elizabeth Harris. The Toneys were neighbors of the DePriests on Lickinghole Creek." This is a very interesting site for your family. After reading the initial page, click in the upper right corner for more info about Elizabeth Harris, etc. Wanda Flesher -- For Freedom's Sake - Love God, Love America

i do not know who mary harris was, or her parents, who married augustine davenport, except i note also that a number of these rootsweb site show that she was the daughter of  willliam harris/ henrietta baker, including this post by cynthia harris osborne.   i have tried for years to get in touch with cynthia harris osborne.   cynthia harris osborne descends from our charles harris/ jane cannon's son cannon harris, who married 1843 in benton, now cleburne co, al, frances poss.   mickey woods, who descends from our arch harris/ elizabeth carter's daughter elizabeth harris, who married his obadiah hooper in 1865 in cleburne co, al, learned from cynthia harris osborne that this was our charles harris/ jane cannon and their 3 sons: her cannon harris; ransom b. harris; and richard harris, all living adjacent each other, and this jasper wright, on the 1850 census for itawamba co, ms.    our jane cannon harris was not with our charles harris.  instead, she is on the 1850 census for paulding co, ga living adjacent or near our james and lucinda harris carter.  james carter was the son of my/ our robert carter, jr and brother of my elizabeth carter harris.   again, this was richard harris' 2nd wife, emeline ingram wright harris, widow of jasper wright, and her daughter hannah jane wright by jasper wright, who gave the affadavits in 1872 in cleburne co, al, stating that our charles harris died in 1865 in greene co, arkansas.   mickey woods had corresponded with cynthia harris osborne several years before he corresponded with me.  since mickey did  not have a copy of our jane cannon harris war of 1812 pension papers re our charles harris, etc, he could not make sense of what cynthia was saying to him.  so, they did not continue to correspond.   again, by the time, i tried to correspond with cynthia harris osborne, i could get no reponse from her per any of these posts she has put on line per these rootsweb sites, etc.    i cannot say myself that because john davenport was a purchaser at my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers 1800 laurens co, sc estate sale that his brother augustine daveport's wife, mary harris, was related harris family.   i also cannot say just because cynthia harris osborne descended from our charles harris/ jane cannon's son cannon harris and she also shows an interest in this augustine davenport/ mary harris, again, that mary harris davenport was related harris family.   i just do not know.   what is needed, of course, like any of these harris lines we are having confusion about is to find actual harris descendants of these harris lines and families to be tested in our harris dna project.    here, to follow, is the post by cynthia harris osborne showing, as i say, her interest in augustine davenport/ mary harris:   The Tennessee Campbell Clan Entries: 93370    Updated: Mon Sep 1 01:57:33 2003    Contact: Cynthia Osborne    Home Page: The Tennessee Campbells Welcome to the Tennessee Campbells and the NC Harris Family Index | Pedigree | Ahnentafel | Download GEDCOM | Add Post-em ID: I043649 Name: Mary Harris Sex: F Birth: 10 Feb 1728/29 in Hanover Co., VA Death: 1819 Father: William Harris b: 1724 in Ann River, St. Pauls Parish, Hanover Co., VA Mother: Henrietta Baker b: ABT 1722 in Hanover Co., VA Marriage 1 Augustine Davenport b: 1728 Married: ABT 1738 in St. Martins Parish, Louisa Co., VA     belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8-------26910

this is a reply to donna re her interest in her jesse harris involved with augustine daveport/ mary harris in rowan co, nc.   these were augustine davenport's/ mary harris' brothers, john davenport and thomas davenport, who also moved to laurens co, sc and john davenport was one of the purchasers at my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers 1800 laurens co, sc estate sale.      these were the purchasers of my/ our william harris, jr/ frances rodgers 1800 laurens co, sc estate sale and, again, as shown, the purchasers included john davenport:    mrs (frances) harris; john harris; thomas harris; william harris, III, and our charles harris/ jane cannon, except they were not married until 1807; john mc laughlin; james vance; luke dempsey; thomas cargill; john davenport; and our john rodgers, esq.   per the info, this john davenport and his brother thomas davenport, who also moved to laurens co, sc, were the sons of william davenport/ ann arnold, son of martin davenport.    the info shows that john davenport, his  brothers, thomas, and  augustine davenport and their father, william davenport/ ann arnold, trace back, like the hendrick family, to what is called the pamunkey davenports.   the following is from a site re the pamunkey davenports:   Davis Davenport and his son, Martin, were both on the "Quit Rent Rolls" of 1704 in Virginia. Davis owned 200 acres, and his son Martin owned 100 acres. Their land was between the North Anna, or Pamunkey River and the head of Herring Creek. It was on about the line, of the later Caroline County. Davis is mentioned in the will of Martin, his son; in which "100 acres of land left to me by my father, Davis Davenport", is passed on to Martin's son, William. Davis had two other sons besides Martin; Thomas and Richard, and a daughter, also. Martin Davenport -(c1675-1735) was born in King William County , Virginia He died in Hanover County in Virginia. Land records of February 27, 1727 show that he purchased 400 acres of new land on the South side of the North Anna River, at the mouth of Little Rocky Creek. It was near the present town of Beaverdam, Virginia.   again, the info shows that john davenport, who died 1807 laurens co, sc and who was a purchaser at my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers 1800 laurens co, sc estate sale, was the son of william davenport/ ann arnold and that this augustine davenport, who married mary harris, was his brother.   also, per the info, this was his cousin john smith davenport who married lucy barksdale, sister of nathan barksdale, who married mary allen, sister of charles allen, jr/ lucy bacon smith, children of charles allen, sr of lunenburg co, va.   again, it was charles, jr and lucy bacon allen smith's daughter mary/ polly allen, who married ca 1795 laurens co, sc our john l. harris, brother of my charles harris, sons of my/ our william harris, jr/ frances rodgers.    the following info re william davenport/ ann arnold showing that they had sons:  john; thomas; and augustine davenport, who married mary harris, can also be found on a pamunkey davenport site:   10. William DAVENPORT was born about 1715 in King William Co., Virginia. He died in 1798 in Spotsylvania Co., Virginia. William DAVENPORT and Anne ARNOLD were married about 1735 in Spotsylvania Co., Virginia. William DAVENPORT and Anne ARNOLD had the following children: +66 i. [--?--] DAVENPORT. +67 ii. Mary DAVENPORT. +68 iii. Martin DAVENPORT. +69 iv. James DAVENPORT. +70 v. Augustine DAVENPORT. +71 vi. Sarah DAVENPORT. +72 vii. John DAVENPORT. +73 viii. David DAVENPORT. +74 ix. Nancy DAVENPORT. +75 x. William DAVENPORT. +76 xi. Thomas DAVENPORT. +77 xii. Delphia DAVENPORT.   to be continued:   belva harris cauthen harris dna group 8------26910          

Sorry for the mistake below. It is Rowan Co., NC. donna -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Donna Merrill Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 11:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] JESSE HARRIS/FRANCES WARD Hi All, I just wanted to throw this out for anyone to respond too. Has anyone provided DNA through the Jesse Harris/Frances Ward line of Rowan Co., VA, and, if so, have they been connected to any of the Harrises of Louisa Co., VA. There has always been speculation that Jesse Harris was a son of William Harris/Henrietta Baker but I have seen no concrete proof of that. In a deed from Rowan Co., NC for a Augustine Davenport and wife Mary Harris, a note was added that a Jesse Harris came from Louisa Co., VA to Rowan Co., NC with Augustine and Mary Davenport. Any information would be appreciated :) Donna Merrill [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1803 - Release Date: 11/21/2008 9:37 AM

Hi All, I just wanted to throw this out for anyone to respond too. Has anyone provided DNA through the Jesse Harris/Frances Ward line of Rowan Co., VA, and, if so, have they been connected to any of the Harrises of Louisa Co., VA. There has always been speculation that Jesse Harris was a son of William Harris/Henrietta Baker but I have seen no concrete proof of that. In a deed from Rowan Co., NC for a Augustine Davenport and wife Mary Harris, a note was added that a Jesse Harris came from Louisa Co., VA to Rowan Co., NC with Augustine and Mary Davenport. Any information would be appreciated :) Donna Merrill [email protected]

I would like to ask Group 6 to look at this information and see if they have any connections. (note from Peggy Hill from the William Harris/Mary Hudson family) From: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) <_mailto:[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > Subject: Re: [VALOUISA-L] William Sharpe Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 19:16:35 EDT Hello, >From the book, "The Baker Family of England and of Central VA and their many related families and kin" , compiled by William Thomson BAKER, Sr, (native of Louisa County, VA), 1974 is the following: Part 1, page 38: ........... William BAKER b @1710 had by his wife Susanna, a daughter Anne Baker, b Nov 1737 m 1761 William Pettit, Jr. They were the parents of.............. Samuel Baker Pettit, who in 1789 married Temperence Harris SHARP, daughter of William Sharp by his wife, Temperence Baker, daughter of Martin Baker of Hanover and sister of William BAKER of Cub Creek, Louisa County, VA >From Part 1, pg 40: "Walter Garland DUKE in his comprehensive genealogy ..........with some account of several hundred central VIrginia families says that Martin BAKER III of Hanover County had eight children and that he was born in Hanover about 1715-1720, died in 1786-1788, that he was very wealthy, executor's bond when his estate was settled being fixed at $100,000. Seven of his children are listed as follows, but not in order of their birth:----- 1. Martin BAKER married Elizabeth SWIFT 2. William BAKER married Mary WALTON 3. John BAKER married Nancy HARRIS 4. Samuel BAKER married Temperence HARRIS 5. Mary BAKER married John WALTON, Jr. 6. Temperence BAKER married William SHARP 7. Jemima Keziah BAKER married Thomas LANE The descendency of Temperence BAKER and William SHARP were not chronicled in the book. The BAKER family of Louisa County was a pretty tightly knit group. I go back on the HARRIS line that figures prominently with the BAKER surname. I daughter out with the marriage of Susan HARRIS, daughter of William HARRIS and Elizabeth BURNETT to John GUNTER. I hope this has helped. This was taken from a book, and thus further documentation never hurts for sure. The book is a good guide. :)) It is still available to my knoweldge. Anyone interested please email. Connecting families with the surname BAKER in this book are: THOMSON. GOODWIN, LIPSCOMB, ELLIS, BOXLEY, MANSFIELD (6 chapters), TANDY, MASSIE, HARRIS, GRAVES, BURRUS, WOOLFOLK, FARRAR, CHILES, DANIEL, QUISENBERRY and the SWIFT-DUKE families. Peggy in CA Now, the thought is that William Harris married Henrietta Baker, daughter of Martin Baker who we see in those 1734 deeds with William, Richard, James, Robert and Robert, Jr. Can we separate the William Harris/Henrietta Baker from the William Harris supposed Elizabeth/Henreitta Burnette? If the William Harris/Mary Hudson family is showing Group 8 ties, we need to look at the family connections. (Is that Pettit or Pettus?) Pat **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001)

Just to clarify, the Joel Harris that Eleanor Homewood is looking for is DNA 17 and has potential connections to the Sherwood Harris line of Granville NC. Pat **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001)

The location of William Hendrick/Hendricks in these documents is about the only clue that might lead to who these people are. He held borders with both Group 2 family of Nathan Harris/Sarah Knight and was also possibly near the William Harris/Mary Hudson who I think lived near Contrary Creek, which was also near Fluvanna at times. The changing county borders don't help locate these people. James Harris/Betsy Pharis are DNA Group 10, and his supposed birth ca1733 (?) does not fit the deed of 1724, so we need earlier people to fit a James Harris with wife Elizabeth. In addition,we are missing the orphans of Richard Harris who died ca 1735 or so. There does seem to be a second Richard Harris nearby after the death of the first one, so tentatively I am giving him Richard Harris, Jr. and working from there. Knowing that these families often had very close family ties and married cousins consistently, I have been able to connect the William Harris/Mary Hudson line to the Group 8 line of John Harris m to Jane Hambleton. Using this same line of cousins, I find connections to the Thomas Harris/Elizabeth said to be Lindsey line who is supposed to come from William Harris/Mary said to be Giles which, again, is testing to Group 8. The Group 8 line also tended to have multiple births, as did the line of William Harris/Mary Hudson (per the Douglas register record of three of their children's births) which has no male descendants left. There is also an early Robert Harris who only signs with a mark, so he is can't be the surveyor who would have needed to know how to read and write to be a surveyor, and the Robert Harris, Jr. you referenced in the 1724 deed can't be the son of that Robert Harris/Mourning Glenn, because that son is not born until ca 1746 by their records, and falls into DNA Group 6. This doesn't tell you who these people are, but it hopefully says something about who they are not. Pat **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001)

*Please forgive my ineptness when juggling all these Harris names. I'm recently attempting to properly place the James Harris's below.* "On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:04 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > In a message dated 11/15/2008 10:51:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) writes: > Another Hanover Co., VA record involving James Harris > > P. 98-100 James Harris of Hanover Co. to Martin Baker of Co. afsd; Lease > and release; 24 pds. Currt. money of Va. 150 a of woodland ground lying in > second fork of Pamunkey River on the North side of the Little > River...beginning at a corner oak on the north side of the River... corner > of William Hendricks. > James Harris > Wit: Robert Harris, Robert Harris Jr., Wm. Harris > 5 July 1734 *ack. by James Harris also Elizabeth the wife of sd. Harris > relinquished all her right of dower."* *Is the above James Harris with wife Elizabeth, the same as the James Harris in the Will below whose wife is Betsy Phares? Can someone provide me with dates for these James Harris's, b, d and marriages (if different men - one if they are same, please?* *Some date info is included below. Does anyone have the source of the dates? Info below is copied and pasted from previous email to list.* "> Item No. Dt of Bond Groom & Bride Sureties > > 54 12/23/1783 David Owen > Mary Harris (spin.) James Harris > dau. of James Harris This Mary Harris, daughter of James Harris who married David Owens, is definitely Mary Harris (20 April 1760 - 6 April 1794), daughter of James Harris (19 July 1733 - 19 July 1797) and his wife Betsey Phares (7 July 1739 - 4 December 1830). {Elizabeth?} Sources: Harris Family Bible and the will of James Harris of Albemarle County. Will follows: Albemarle County, Virginia Will Book 3, page 324 James Harris Will In the name of God Amen. I James Harris of the County of Albemarle and Parish of Fredericksville being in common health and of perfect sound mind & memory thanks be to God for the same but calling to mind the uncertainty of life and the certainty of death and knowing that it is appointed for all men to die do make and ordain this my last will and testament hereby revoking and disannulling all other wills and testaments heretofore by me made and this only to be my last will and testament. First my will and desire is that all any just debts together with my funeral expenses to be paid out of my estate and as for such worldly goods wherewith it has been pleased God to bless me with dispose of them in the manner and form following Imprums(?) I leave unto my beloved wife Betsey Harris all my estate both real and personal for and remaining the term of her natural life or widowhood she making no waste thereof only for her own support and at my wifes death or marriage I give unto Betsey Mills five shillings also to my daughter Caty Owens five shillings current money and then the balance of my estate to be sold on a reasonable credit both real & personal and the money arising from such sale to be equally divided among my children towit *Henry Harris, William Harris, Peter Harris, James Harris, Blake Harris, Wiley Harris and the children that are then living of my daughter Sarah Jones i*s to have one equal part of my estate to be divided among them so as the whole of the children of* *my daughter Jones has no more among the whole of them than are then living that are one of the rest of my children hers for his own part and the children of my daughter *Mary Owings *that are then living the same as my daughter *Sarah Jones's *children, the children of my* Nancy Owens* that are then living the same as my daughter Mary Owings children and if any of my children before mentioned should die without lawful issue then my will and desire is that their part should be equally divided amoung the rest of my children and grandchildren as before mentioned. *Betsey Mills and Caty Owings excepted.* Lastly I nominate and appoint *my sons Henry Harris, William Harris, Blake Harris and David Owings executors* of this my last will and Testament Signed sealed subscribed and preserved by the said James Harris to be his last will and testament this *tenth day of* *August 1796* In presence of Rob. Bruce *James Harris* John Garrison John Wood Thomas Walton *At Albemarle July Court 1797* This last will of James Harris deceased was produced unto court and proved by the oath of Thomas Walton and the affirmation of John Ward two of the witnesses thereto and ordered to be recorded. John Nicholas CC" *There is one James Harris, married to Mary Harris dau of Maj. Robert Harris (Mourning Glenn) who was born about 1729 and died in 1792, leaving a Will naming his children. But Where does this James Harris, who died in 1797, fit into the Harris family?* *This last James names a son Henry Harris. I'm seeking my Henry's parents. The birth date given (1733) for James, d 1797 is more in keeping to be a brother to my Henry than to be his father - unless the dates are wrong. My Henry Harris was born in 1742. Any and all light about these people is greatly appreciated. Wanda Flesher* -- For Freedom's Sake - Love God, Love America