Central High School is the oldest free public high school in continuous operation west of the Allegheny Mountains. It was established in 1854 as Evansville High School. In 1918 the name was changed to Central High School when another high school was built. The list that follows is a list of graduates, with the last name of HARRIS, from Evansville High School/Central High School between 1854 and 2007. Central High School, 5400 First Avenue, Evansville, Vanderburgh County, Indiana This list is taken from the official graduation lists of Evansville High School/Central High School. Willard Library, Evansville, Vanderburgh County, Indiana has these graduation lists. There is also a copy of the graduation lists in the Central High School Archives. Year Graduated / Name 1908 Martha Harris 1927 Percy Harris 1929 Homer Harris 1932 Eileen Harris 1934 Arvel Harris 1934 Donald Harris 1935 Mildred Harris 1936 Herschel D. Harris 1937 Louis Gilbert Harris 1937 Parkie Harris 1938 Verl K. Harris 1943 Wirt L. Harris Jr. 1944 Charles Max Harris 1946 Jane Lenore Harris 1947 Glenna Dene Harris 1950 Alena Hazel Harris 1950 Randall Jay Harris 1951 Annie Laurie Harris 1953 Mary Helen Harris 1953 Mildred Louise Harris 1955 Gerald Donald Harris 1955 Sandra Louise Harris 1956 Harvey Harris 1960 Lawrence Rudolph Harris 1961 Samuel Curtis Harris 1961 Wilma Sharon Harris 1962 Earle Glenn Harris 1963 William Edward Harris 1963 William Eugene Harris 1964 Linda Lou Harris 1965 Bruce Shawn Harris 1965 Patricia Ann Harris 1966 Ira Lafayette Harris III Military Achievement Test Diploma January 24, 1966 James Leon Harris 1968 William Parvin Harris 1969 Bessie Marie Harris 1969 Jessie Mae Harris 1969 Lloyd Ray Harris 1980 Donald Eric Harris 1982 Sandra Kay Harris 1990 David Eugene Harris 1990 Jenelle Jo Harris 1994 James Thomas Harris 1995 Alyson Lynn Harris 1996 Charity Dawn Harris 1997 Matthew Michael Harris 1998 Andrea Lea Harris 1998 Jody Wayne Harris 1998 Misti Dawn Harris 2000 Thomas Michael Harris 2001 William Harris 2003 Luke Andrew Harris 2005 Ryan Harris 2006 Laura Harris I hope this helps Harris researchers in Vanderburgh County, Indiana Ira L. Harris III Group 6, Harris Y-DNA Family Study Graduate of CHS Class of 1966 Central High School Archivist, 1990-2012

Dear Harris-Hunters, I am sharing these notes for those who are trying to sort out some of the relationships of Robert Harris of colonial Louisa Co., VA where he was 1) in the House of Burgesses for that county 2) resigned that post to become surveyor of Louisa Co., VA.  At times, he is labeled Major, but to date we have not found military papers to indicate his position. Louisa Co had been formed from Hanover Co. (a burned county, now called something else) in late 1742.  Therefore, if you have lost your ancestors in pre-Civil War Hanover Co., possibly their names will appear in Louisa Co. records of early date. If you use this material in your own genealogical explorations, please cite the sources where I have given them.  This citation is required (in greater details by published authority Elizabeth Shown Mills) in all genealogical material these days.  Don't you yourself wonder, I wonder where he/she got this stuff?  If your work cannot be replicated by others, it is probably useless.  That was the main criticism of the International Genealogical Index and even worse, Ancestral File published by the Family History Library, These databases were criticized by well-known genealogists of national repute. If you have other information, how about sharing with Harris-Hunters? Evelyn W. Wallace Here goes:      BENJAMIN HARRIS I OF COLONIAL LOUISA CO., VA.  Malcolm Hart Harris in "Three William Harrises in Hanover County" in VIRGINIA GENEALOGIST, V. 22, p. 3 ff, states that Benjamin Harris married Sarah Dumas 27 Jun 1737 and he died 13 Mar 1762.  A patent cited below indicates that a Dumas family was a neighbor of Benjamin Harris.   He apparently had a wife named Mary at the time of his death ca 1765 in Louisa Co., VA, which had been formed from Hanover Co. Benjamin Harris in his Louisa Co. will of 1765 (WB 1-72) named as executors his wife Mary and his two brothers, Frederick Harris and Robert Harris (of Louisa, later of Albemarle Co.)    He named two sons, as indicated below, and there was a third son, whose name does not appear in the torn will.  Apparently Benjamin Harris had been married previously to a woman named Sarah, as indicated in the following deed, but Sarah is not the name of his widow Mary.+          Benjamin Harris had previously lived in Hanover Co. from which Louisa Co. had been formed 1742. Hanover Co. VA Records - 1733 Hanover Co., VA Court Records 1733-1735:  pp. 14-15:  INDENT.  1 Feb 1733  Robert Harris of Hanover Co. to Benjamin Harris of Co. afsd; 40 pds sterling money; 256 a. on both sides of north fork of Little River bounded by the lines of Stephen Pettus, John Garland, William Mullin, Benjamin Brown, William Harris and Benjamin Byb.  /s/ Robert Harris.  Wit:  Thomas Dickinson, James Harris, Richard Harris 1 Feb 1733 ack. by Robert Harris. p. 15  INDENT.  1 Feb 1733 Benjamin Harris of Hanover Co. to Robert Harris of Co. afsd; 40 pds sterling money of England; 256 a. left him by the Last Will and Testament of his Father, William Harris dec'd., being commonly known by the name of Walkers Neck.  /s/ Benjamin Harris.  Wit:  Thomas Dickinson, James Harris, Richard Harris.  1 Feb 1733 ack. by Benjamin Harris. (Rosalie Edith Davis, HANOVER COUNTY, VIRGINIA COURT RECORDS 1733-1735:  DEEDS, WILLS AND INVENTORIES [Manchester, MO:  1979], pp. 4-5) This latter deed establishes the fact that Benjamin Harris is a child of William Harris and his wife Temperance Overton, as is Robert Harris.  The identities of two of the witnesses, James Harris and Richard Harris, are unknown to this writer.  We do not know to which Harris an ordinary in Hanover Co. ca 1733 had belonged, but reference is made in an ordinary license bond in which Thomas Trevillion and Matthew Jouet bound themselves.  Trevillion had obtained a license to keep an Ordinary "at the place called Harris's Ordinary in this Co."  for one year.  One of the daughters of Robert Harris married John Jouett, the younger, who in Revolutionary times lived in or near Albemarle Co., VA.  Whether the Harrises intermarried with the Trevillions is unknown. Louisa Co. Records (Louisa Co. formed 1742 from Hanover Co.) 1745 -       Louisa Co. DB A-187  25 Jun 1745  Benjamin Harris and Sarah, his wife, of St. Martin's Par., Louisa Co., to Robert Harris of Fredericksville Par., Louisa Co.  50 pds currt money.  400 A in Fredericksville Par... land whereon sd. Harris now lives ... at head of Rocky branch in Harper Ratclift's line .. Ratclift's and John Matlock's line ... Samuel Waddy's line by main branch of Hickory Bear Creek ... Thomas Thomson's corner; granted to John Blair of the city of Williamsburg, Esqr., by patent 17 Mar 1736; conveyed to Benjamin Harris by deed at the Capitol, 23 Oct 1742.  /s/ Benja. Harris, Sarah Harris.  Wit:  Joseph Fox, Jeremiah Glen, Rich. Yancey, Nathl. Williams.  25 June 1745 ack. by Benja. Harris, Sarah, his wife, gave consent.        (Rosalie Edith Davis, LOUISA COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEED BOOKS A AND B 1742-1759 [Bellevue, WA:  Published by author, 1976], p. 21) Comment 1:  The above document confirms that Benjamin's then wife was named Sarah.  This also seems to confirm that Benjamin is related to Robert Harris [Major], surveyor of Louisa Co., vestryman of Fredericksville Parish, and sometime member of House of Burgesses.  The degree of relationship is not stated in this abstract. Comment 2:  In the version of this deed, abstracted by Lydia Sparacio Bontempo, Benjamin Harris and Sarah were of St. Michael Parish.  Has one of the authors misread the deed or abstracted too little information?  Also, the name Edward Lawes's line appears in the abstract by Bontempo. Comment 3:  Louisa Co. DB A-452 indicates that several years later,  in Jan. 1752, Robert Harris conveyed this same parcel of land to his son Tyree Harris (qv), and then in in 1757 Tyree Harris and wife Elizabeth conveyed the same tract to William Anderson, DB B-148, 22 Feb 1757.  Tyree Harris may have been preparing for his move to Orange Co., NC.  Other deeds show that other land owners on or near Hickory Bear Creek were John Matlock (qv), Thomas Travillion, Thomas Shelton, John Stree, Richard Bullock, Samuel Waddy and Matthew Jouett (qv). Comment 4:  Is one of these witnesses, Nathl.  (Nathaniel2) Williams a son or grandson of John1 Williams I of Hanover Co., who probably died ca. 1733, intestate?  The possible connection is through John Matlock.  In 1731,  Henry Graves whose second wife was reportedly  Mary2 Williams, daughter of John1 Williams I, had land adjoining that of John Matlock.  Possibly he was an older Matlock than the one named above.  However, many of these colonials clustered in the same neighborhoods and their families intermarried sooner or later.  Hickory Bear was described in some of the land records of Matthew Jouett of Hanover Co.; Jouett's daughter Henrietta Jouett married the reported brother of Nathaniel2 Williams, Joseph2 Williams, later of Lunenburg Co. and much later of Wilkes Co., GA.  One of the Jouett males married a daughter of Robert Harris, but this has not been thoroughly researched.  This latter couple reportedly moved to Kentucky. 1746 -      There is indication that Benjamin Harris and some of his neighbors were Quakers, thus affirming documents and not swearing to them.  In 1746, Benjamin Harris was appointed guardian for Charles Yancey, "an infant and eldest son and heir at law of said decedent."  (Probate Robert Yancey, Apr 1746, Louisa Co. WB 1, p. 8).  Benjamin Harris had been a witness to the will of Robert Yancey.  A later entry in WB 3-21, settlement of estate of Rev. Robert Yancey, names all his creditors, among them Rbt. Harris, probably the brother of Benjamin Harris, and also John Jouett, the son-in-law of Robert Harris. In 1747/48, Benjamin patented land in Louisa Co.  Patent Bk 26:  BENJAMIN HARRIS, 699 acs. Louisa Co. on both sides of Hickory Cr., Beg. at Dumas & Browns former C., on the Orphans Line {Orphans of Hugh Owen}, adj. Benjamin Brown; 5 Mar 1747/48, p. 256. 1 Pound 10 Shillings. The sd L. being formerly grt. Jeremiah Dumas by pat. 28 Sep 1728 {PB 13 p. 468} for 400 acs. but upon a Survey lately made by Robert Harris Surveyor of sd Co. is found to contain 699 acs. the Right & Title of which is since become vested in the sd Benjamin Harris  (Dennis Ray Hudgins, CAVALIERS & PIONEERS, V. 5, [Richmond, VA:  Virginia Genealogical Society, 1998]  p. 249)    Study of the Benjamin Brown family indicates that one of his sons married Lucretia Harris, believed to be daughter of Robert Harris.  (This has not been verified.)  1745      In 1745 a deed was recorded in Amelia Co.:  "p. 332 David Harris, planter, of St. Martin's Parish, Hanover Co. to Benjamin Harris, Planter of St. Martin's Parish, Louisa Co., VA.  Deed dated 26 Nov 1745.  Consideration:  35 pds.  Wit:  Robert Harris, Thomas Pavilett [Paulett or Pawlett?], William Snelson, James Johnson, James Yancey, Wm. Rice, and Benj. Dumas.  387 A Vaughans Creek being patented to said David Harris on Sep 16, 1743.      (Adapted from Gibson Jefferson McConnaughey,  AMELIA COUNTY VIRGINIA WILLS 1735-1761;  BONDS 1735-1754 [Amelia, VA:  Mid South Publications, 1978], p. 50) (Comment:  The identity of David Harris is unknown to this writer.  A reading of the original deed may help pinpoint his identity.  He has not been identified as a son of Capt. William Harris and Temperance Overton nor as a son of Robert Harris.  According to the will of Benjamin Harris and subsequent guardianship of his orphans, David Harris was not a child of Benjamin.  We have not determined successfully how many related Harrises may have lived in the same neighborhoods.)  1747/48  Patent Bk. NO. 26:  Benjamin Harris, 699 acs. Louisa Co. on both sides of Hickory Cr., Beg. at Dumas & Browns form C. on the Orphans Line [Orphans of Hugh Owen], adj. Benjamin Brown; 5 Mar 1747/48, p. 256.  L1.S10.  The sd L. being formerly gtd Jeremiah Dumas by pat. 28 Sep 1728 [PB 13 p. 468] for 400 acs. but upon a Survey lately made by Robert Harris Surveyor of sd. Co. is found to contain 699 acs. the Right & Title of which is since become vested in the sd. Benjamin Harris. (Dennis Ray Hudgins, Cavaliers and Pioneers, V.5, p. 249) Are the dates in the following abstract in error?  Or was that when the will was recorded, or when the guardianship was dismissed?  Further research is in order.  1785     Louisa Co. Will Bk 1-72 "Will of Benjamin Harris of Trinity Parish.  Wife Mary. 3 sons:  Robert, eldest son Overton & ---.  Dau:  Nancy.  Lands to be divided among my eldest son Overton & son Robert at death of my wife.  Excrs:  wife Mary Harris & two brothers:  Frederick Harris & Robert Harris.  Signed:  Benjamin Harris.  Wit:  James Overton, Charles Nuckolls, Mary Ratlif.  Dated 30 July 1785.  Rcd 14 Oct 1785." (Nancy Chappelear & Kate Binford Hatch, ABSTRACTS OF LOUISA COUNTY WILL BOOKS , p. 13) This will (abstracted) confirms that Frederick Harris is also a brother of Benjamin and of Robert Harris.      Louisa Co. Will Bk 3-227:  "Settlement of est. of Benj. Harris by Elias Thomasson, Excr.  For boarding and clothing Overton, Nancy, Robert & Benj;  443 pds-10-10 1/2.  Signed:  Chs. Barret, Robt. Barret, John Crutchfield, Elijah Dickinson.  Rcd.  ... 1785"      Question:  Had the widow Mary Harris remarried to Elias Thomasson, and that is the reason for change of executorship?  Stepfathers, by law, could request recompense for boarding their stepchildren.

Dear Harris Hunters, Those of you who access familysearch.org frequently have probably discovered that once in a while some publication (or CD) in the Family History Library in Salt Lake City has been digitized. Instead of cleaning up my household clutter, I decided to play around with Familysearch.org and discovered that a published family history of an early (near Hanover co., VA) Harris family has been digiitzed.  See bottom of this message for my trial at cutting and pasting. Because there is a lack of citations in this digitized book, I recommend that you check whatever Virginia records (I prefer Virginia land records and patents, myself) exist for that time and that place. (Your queries should ALWAYS cite an approximate place and a time period [rough] and this is why you need to clarify statements made in this digitized book.  If the chosen mate of the Harris peson is NOT a neighbor, then question the statement.  One noted genealogist/author/librarian made a statement at a national conference in Richmond, VA some years ago to this effect:  The Virginia groom in early days always married a bride from downstream.  [Exaggeration perhaps, but imagine the perils in the woods surrounding the Harris plantation--hostile native Americans perhaps, wolves, no roads, no street lights, etc.  Imagine getting lost in the woods while trying to court a girl not far away!!!] My favorite source to check on relationships of neighbors (and possible marriage mates)  is the eight published volumes of Cavaliers and Pioneers which are published and abstracted land patents awarded in Virginia.  If you do not have access to these published volumes, which have excellent indexes for surnames, places, streams, etc., then the genealogists's second choice would be the abstracts of land patents on the Library of Virginia website.  (Google.com for the URL) Then after you find the LVA website, go down the alphabetized list to the L's and find Land Records.  Choose the title which includes the words *Northern Neck land patents* which are intermixed with the later land patents.  The disadvantage for researchers of older families is that the newest patents (some in the 21st century) appear first.  Click away to the last pages for colonial families. Using the online land patents:  The land patents, for the most part, not only name the grantee and the acreage (and the price, if applicable) but also names some geographic areas (mostly watercourses) and the neighbors.  If you ignore those clues, then your genealogy will be faulty.  (Those who are searching in Tennessee would be well to study land records in North Carolina--and even Kentucky--before Tennessee became a State.) If you know that your Harris family (or whoever) supposedly married into a neighbor family, be sure to check out those neighbors' patents also.  Some neighbors had multiple patents, but check the watercourse and the other neighbors.  These are your clues, and genealogists need CLUES, especially if you have a common surname like Harris!!! Here is the cut and pasted book entry in the FHL catalog which may of interest to those of you who suspect you are descended from a Harris family in colonial Virginia.  You doubtless will have to use the Family History Library catalog and type in either the author, as given, or the title as given.  I don't think you can click on *Here* in this cutout.   Having been trained to use the *old* FHL catalog, I still use the old one, which gives me a number of ways to search the catalog.    The new one is the preference of others, but as I view it, it does not give me sufficient choices. E.W.Wallace Harris family of Virginia from 1611 to 1914 Stmnt.Resp. data gathered and printed for Thomas Henry Harris Authors Harris, Thomas Henry, 1854- (Main Author) Notes To view a digital version of this item click here. ________________________________ Microfilm of original published: Fredericksburg, Va. : T. H. Harris, [1914]. 32, [1] p. ________________________________ Captain Thomas Harris immigrated to Virginia in 1611 and settled on land now in Henrico County. His grandson, Major Robert Harris, married the widow Rice, who was Mary Claiborne, the youngest daughter of Col. William Claiborne, the first Secretary of the Virginia Colony. Descendants lived in Virginia, Georgia, Texas, and elsewhere. .

Lynda, Thank you so much for finally pointing out that the three William Harrises who patented land in 1725 in Hanover County, Virginia, lived far apart from each other. This has been the biggest block for all the descendants of all these men in trying to sort out the couple of Harris lines represented here, and to understand their own connections back to each individual one. William that married Temperance Harris was the resident of the "Forks" area of Hanover County. Temperance died in 1716, and William before February, 1734. (They definitely belonged to Group 6 DNA.) My belief is that the William who married Elizabeth Burdett was the son of William & Temperance (and there is some DNA evidence that tends to support that belief.) (Also Group 6.) That William Jr. patented and further to the west of his parents, but in the same general area, suggests strongly that he was their son (and the DNA evidence does support that also.) What was not previously-discovered, and has been pretty-much been ignored by so many researchers, is that there is good evidence that appears to confirm that Robert Harris, the son of William & Temperance Overton Harris, and the Quaker, Benjamin Harris, who married Temperance Dumas, were actually brothers. (Of course, they would naturally have been estranged, as Robert became a magistrate of his county and was a Vestryman of the Church of England, while his brother, Benjamin, became an Elder in the Society of Friends/Quakers.) There is also good evidence that a Richard Harris and a James Harris were related to either Robert Harris or Benjamin Harris. Richard Harris appears possibly to have been the uncle of both Robert & Benjamin Harris? Richard Harris is one of those "lost ancestors?" from Virginia? Richard Harris, if you research him, is a fairly-well documented person in Virginia: he was a Burgress of Virginia. So how has this Richard Harris somehow lost, and why do we not connect him to the family of William & Temperance Overton Harris? Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com ----Original Message----- From: harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynda SoRelle Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 11:21 AM To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] HARRIS-HUNTERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 35 The article referred to in this post is as follows: Three William Harrises in HanoverCounty by Malcolm Hart Harris West Point, Virginia Virginia Genealogist, v. 22 pp. 3-15; pp. 99-104; pp. 187-193 This article discusses the three different William Harrises who took patents on the same date in Hanover Co. The article is divided into three parts. The first part discusses William Harris who married Temperance Overton. (Group 6). The second part discusses William Harris Jr. who married Elizabeth Burnett. (Group 6?) The third part discusses William Harris who took a patent along Cubb Creek in then Hanover, later Louisa Co., and is associated with George Alves. (Group 8) Following is the introduction to the 3-part article: A good many years ago, the finding of three grants made on 24 March 1725 to three patentees named William Harris prompted a study in some detail of the three men, their families and their lands in the counties of Hanover and Louisa. Since then other significant material has been found relating to the three men and their families which will be presented in the following report of the research. It is not often that the identity of three persons of the same name, living within the same area, has led to clear and positive placing. The first of these three, recorded as Capt. William Harris and William Harris, Gent., was certainly the well known Capt. William Harris of HanoverCounty who resided in the Forks of the PamunkeyRiver at his plantation called Cedar Hill. Capt. William Harris was a justice of the peace for many years and a vestryman in both St. Paul’s Parish and later in St. Martin’s Parish. The second William Harris was designated as Junior in the patent, to identify him as a son or a younger man. It seems reasonably certain that he was a son of Capt. William Harris as the records prove. The third William Harris was without rank or any identifying connection, except his association with George Alves in the records of St. Paul’s Parish and patents of adjoining lands in Hanover County. It was known that George Alves had married the mother of William Harris, son of Major William Harris of Henrico County, and they had moved to Hanover County. The three tracts of land which were granted on 24 March 1725 lay in widely separated areas of the county of Hanover, which in 1725 included Louisa County. The two tracts granted Capt. William Harris and William Harris Gent. lay along Little River and below the North Anna River. That granted William Harris, Junior, was also on Little River, but about twenty miles to the west. The tract granted the third William Harris lay along Cub Creek which lies wholly within the county of Louisa and is about six miles from the nearest tract on upper Little River. Lynda SoRelle ________________________________ From: "harris-hunters-request@rootsweb.com" <harris-hunters-request@rootsweb.com> To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, April 22, 2012 2:14:11 AM Subject: HARRIS-HUNTERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 35 Today's Topics: 1. (no subject) (EVELYN WALLACE) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:49:31 -0700 (PDT) From: EVELYN WALLACE <hdanw@verizon.net> Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] (no subject) To: Harris Hunters <Harris-Hunters@rootsweb.com>, "VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com" <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com>, l <MADKY@rootsweb.com> Cc: "M. A. Farrell" <mafarr28@peoplepc.com> Message-ID: <1335066571.79078.YahooMailNeo@web84506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Does your local (or nearby) public library carry the online database called HeritageQuest?? This is a database useful for genealogists--many out of copyright books have been digitized. Of interest to descendants of the Harris families of around colonial Pamunkey River, a tributary (I am not consulting the atlas) of the Anna River (probably called North Anna River in and around Hanover Co. KY.? Current atlases show a BIG reservoir of late date.) At any rate, on HeritageQuest [the database] is a county history of Louisa Co., VA, which was formed from that *burned* county, Hanover Co. At the bottom I will try to paste my copy of the index entry from HeritageQuest.? Please know that Malcolm Hart Harris, an MD of several generations ago, compiled this history of Louisa Co. perhaps under a deadline.? Subsequent articles which he compiled appeared in earlier versions of The Virginia Genealogist, and at times he corrected statements which appear in the Louisa Co., VA history.? One article of particular interest, published some years ago, and authored by Dr. Harris indicated that there were three contemporary William Harrises.? I forget the exact title but as I remember it was entitled something like Three William Harrises [of Hanover Co.?] Anyway, this history of Louisa Co., VA (part of which became Albemarle Co.) refers to many of the families who intermarried with the Harrises.? I do caution you that there are errors, but if you are really puzzled (and need documentation) that you refer to tax records, tithable records, some books of deed and parish abstracts of Louisa Co. as compiled and published some years ago by Mrs. Rosalie Edith Davis.? (Some time ago, many persons were puzzled as to the fact that Mrs. Davis was not answering her e-mail.? I believe someone has taken over her e-mail and probably [I have not checked] taking care of orders ). Mrs. Davis's books were paperback and with use come apart. Nonetheless, as I read the introductions, it seems Mrs. Davis actually went to Richmond and read the films of Louisa Co., transcribed them, and published them.? Her introductions to her books are helpful. There is a rather extensive index in the history of Louisa Co..? I use the page number section at the top of the page and go to the last pages of the featured book and explore the index.? You can click around the various index pages to find the surnames you are searching.? Just be careful and try to document what Dr. Harris has written.? My impression is that in later days, he corrected some of the material, such as the articles in The Virginia Genealogist.. Re Claiborne - John Frederick Dorman, editor and publisher of The Virginia Genealogist, has helped a Claiborne relative compile a family history in the last decade or so, and Dorman refutes that a Claiborne female married a Harris male.? Do not overlook using the eight volumes of Cavaliers and Pioneers for Virginia land patents, which generally list the neighbors of whatever Harris male is receiving a land grant (patent).? You can also use the online Land Patents (include the title which includes Northern Neck land grants) at the Library of Virginia website. (google for the URL) Some genealogists--very patient ones with good eyesight--like to use the chancery records, also on the LVA website.? These have to do with heirs, sometimes squabbling over land or other inherited property.? E.W.Wallace Harris, Malcolm Hart.?[View Citation]?[Table of Contents]?[Page Numbers] History of Louisa County, Virginia Richmond, Va. ::?Dietz Press,,?1936,?538 pgs ------------------------------ To contact the HARRIS-HUNTERS list administrator, send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the HARRIS-HUNTERS mailing list, send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of HARRIS-HUNTERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 35 ********************************************* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I may jump around in trying to answer your query, which is repeated below First, have you communicated with Pat Clare [URL below] who is coordinator of the Harris DNA results, as far as I know.  At least, my correspondence is with her. Well, certain middle names sometime are *acquired* by non-descendants.  I have a Kentucky ancestor who lived (and married 2nd time a widowed neighbor) named Samuel Farrar Williams (b. 1759 Granville Co. NC).  We made up stories that his mother may have had the surname Farrar.  So far, that has not checked out.  When I found Farrars in Granville Co., NC, I guess I posted stuff on rootsweb and got a response to a person who had done research on Farrars in Granville Co. and he refuted my finding.  Back to Square one. However, when I traced Williamses in colonial Virginia and got some good pointers (before I subscribed to e-mail) from others who had done research in colonial Goochland Co., I found that one tithable ica 1747 in the household of John Williams [Jr] named William Farrar.  I did not find intermarriage, but if you have a surname like Williams, you begin to get *fancy* with naming. As I keep scanning books, always hoping for a breakthrough, I find there are uses of names which early Harrises had, but who are these *newbies*.  Some of the names associated with Harris (such a common name!!!!) are Overton (there was an early one in Virginia, whom I believe got a divorce--tsk! tsk!--and Tyree aka Tyra. A book by a fellow Knoxville citizen--Dr. George K. Schweitzer, who seems now to have retired from his lectures at the National level--and occasionally in California--Kentucky Genealogical Research (name of one of his many books for genealogists)   Google for his name. Warren Co., KY' was formed 1796 from Logan Co., KY county seat Bowling Green, fire during Civil War  [Many of the original early records are in Library, Western KY State University at Bowling Green. Perhaps you are making the mistake many of us make--we are looking in the WRONG county at the WRONG time. Now Dr. Schweitzer writes this about Logan Co.:  Logan Co. was formed 1792 from Lincoln Co., KY. Lincoln Co. was a huge county.  It was formed 1780 from Kentucky Co., VA.  This is where you probably should begin.  See if you can find in a local library in your town the so-called 1787 Census of Virginia - private property tax lists for Virginia as well as Kentucky.  There are three volumes--the 3rd one being an index (a hefty volume) for the preceding two volumes.  You will find at least two pages of Harris listings.  (I photocopied the index pages.  Then I took a large piece of clean paper and arranged the page numbers in numerical order, so that I could photocopy the pages of interest to me.  (I was looking for Christopher Harris and found he had been taxed for personal property in two places--Albemarle Co., VA and Madison co., KY.  This helped me answer a question I had--when had he (and some of his 19 kids by 2 wives) migrated to Kentucky? Talk to your librarian (Knoxville has some rare private collections, one of which I had to hire a genealogist to search for me--the Calvin M. McClung collection.  These are letters, notes, etc, and cannot be photocopied.)  So I am sure someone in the Library system in Knoxville has some knowledge of genealogy.  And scan the online catalog of any colleges/universities in Knoxville.  I used to prowl a large California university and found some gems about some of my Texas ancestors!!! Land records, as well what the Family History Library in Salt Lake City calls *vital records* [birth, marriage, death] are some of the best sources for colonial research. Please prowl the online catalog for your library system in Knoxville and try to find which libraries have the best genealogical collection. Also, you might save yourself some headaches if you purchase at least two of Dr. Schwietzer's inexpensive little books on Kentucky Genealogical Research and Virginia Genealogical Research.  I am fairly certain he (or his name at least) is on the internet.  Google for his name. I hope you have some leisure.  If you join a genealogical society, you MAY find the programs quite helpful and the members also.  Do not rely on other persons' work. In a separate e-mail, I will send you some notes I have on an early Michael Holland, as he seemed to be a neighbor of one of my Williamses--I think in colonial Hanover Co. By the way, according to Pat Clare, I belong to Harris DNA 6 - not eight.  E.W.Wallace ________________________________ From: "boxerb@aol.com" <boxerb@aol.com> To: HARRIS-HUNTERS@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 12:19 PM Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] My George Harris b 1750-1755 I probably am going to ramble so bear with me.    I am descended from George Overton Harris Jr. b 1790 VA d 10 Nov 1855 in Warren Co KY.  He married Elizabeth (Betsey) Holland, dau of Michael Holland and Agatha Ward, 5 Apr 1813 in Warren Co KY.  He was the son of George Harris Sr. b1750-1755 VA and Sarah Hudson.  Married ca 1772  ?????  First son Graves, b 1773 VA.  George Sr was the son of William b ca 1730 d 1798 Prince Edward Co VA.  All the information I have on William is from the web page of  Catharine Stone Sckwarz with contributions from Nelle Craig, Ruby Ogletree, Pat Laney, Howard and Betty Harris, Truman Farris, Paul Dafft (who is no longer with us), Elizabeth Shannon, Beth Strahan and Lynda SoBelle.  I have researched George Sr and Jr.  Several cousins have participated in the Harris DNA project.  We are in Group 8.  I have always felt that somewhere along this very long line of Harris' that we are in someway connected with Group 6.  Don't really know how all this works but the name Overton comes into many Harris lines.  I do not think I ever saw a document on George Sr that gave his middle name but "Overton" is certainly in documents with George Jr. Comments and help welcome. 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I probably am going to ramble so bear with me. I am descended from George Overton Harris Jr. b 1790 VA d 10 Nov 1855 in Warren Co KY. He married Elizabeth (Betsey) Holland, dau of Michael Holland and Agatha Ward, 5 Apr 1813 in Warren Co KY. He was the son of George Harris Sr. b1750-1755 VA and Sarah Hudson. Married ca 1772 ????? First son Graves, b 1773 VA. George Sr was the son of William b ca 1730 d 1798 Prince Edward Co VA. All the information I have on William is from the web page of Catharine Stone Sckwarz with contributions from Nelle Craig, Ruby Ogletree, Pat Laney, Howard and Betty Harris, Truman Farris, Paul Dafft (who is no longer with us), Elizabeth Shannon, Beth Strahan and Lynda SoBelle. I have researched George Sr and Jr. Several cousins have participated in the Harris DNA project. We are in Group 8. I have always felt that somewhere along this very long line of Harris' that we are in someway connected with Group 6. Don't really know how all this works but the name Overton comes into many Harris lines. I do not think I ever saw a document on George Sr that gave his middle name but "Overton" is certainly in documents with George Jr. Comments and help welcome. Mary June Foulk Knoxville Tennessee

The article referred to in this post is as follows: Three William Harrises in HanoverCounty by Malcolm Hart Harris West Point, Virginia Virginia Genealogist, v. 22 pp. 3-15; pp. 99-104; pp. 187-193 This article discusses the three different William Harrises who took patents on the same date in Hanover Co. The article is divided into three parts. The first part discusses William Harris who married Temperance Overton. (Group 6). The second part discusses William Harris Jr. who married Elizabeth Burnett. (Group 6?) The third part discusses William Harris who took a patent along Cubb Creek in then Hanover, later Louisa Co., and is associated with George Alves. (Group 8) Following is the introduction to the 3-part article: A good many years ago, the finding of three grants made on 24 March 1725 to three patentees named William Harris prompted a study in some detail of the three men, their families and their lands in the counties of Hanover and Louisa. Since then other significant material has been found relating to the three men and their families which will be presented in the following report of the research. It is not often that the identity of three persons of the same name, living within the same area, has led to clear and positive placing. The first of these three, recorded as Capt. William Harris and William Harris, Gent., was certainly the well known Capt. William Harris of HanoverCounty who resided in the Forks of the PamunkeyRiver at his plantation called Cedar Hill. Capt. William Harris was a justice of the peace for many years and a vestryman in both St. Paul’s Parish and later in St. Martin’s Parish. The second William Harris was designated as Junior in the patent, to identify him as a son or a younger man. It seems reasonably certain that he was a son of Capt. William Harris as the records prove. The third William Harris was without rank or any identifying connection, except his association with George Alves in the records of St. Paul’s Parish and patents of adjoining lands in HanoverCounty. It was known that George Alves had married the mother of William Harris, son of Major William Harris of HenricoCounty, and they had moved to HanoverCounty. The three tracts of land which were granted on 24 March 1725 lay in widely separated areas of the county of Hanover, which in 1725 included LouisaCounty. The two tracts granted Capt. William Harris and William Harris Gent. lay along Little River and below the NorthAnnaRiver. That granted William Harris, Junior, was also on Little River, but about twenty miles to the west. The tract granted the third William Harris lay along Cub Creek which lies wholly within the county of Louisa and is about six miles from the nearest tract on upper Little River. Lynda SoRelle ________________________________ From: "harris-hunters-request@rootsweb.com" <harris-hunters-request@rootsweb.com> To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, April 22, 2012 2:14:11 AM Subject: HARRIS-HUNTERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 35 Today's Topics: 1. (no subject) (EVELYN WALLACE) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:49:31 -0700 (PDT) From: EVELYN WALLACE <hdanw@verizon.net> Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] (no subject) To: Harris Hunters <Harris-Hunters@rootsweb.com>, "VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com" <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com>, l <MADKY@rootsweb.com> Cc: "M. A. Farrell" <mafarr28@peoplepc.com> Message-ID: <1335066571.79078.YahooMailNeo@web84506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Does your local (or nearby) public library carry the online database called HeritageQuest?? This is a database useful for genealogists--many out of copyright books have been digitized. Of interest to descendants of the Harris families of around colonial Pamunkey River, a tributary (I am not consulting the atlas) of the Anna River (probably called North Anna River in and around Hanover Co. KY.? Current atlases show a BIG reservoir of late date.) At any rate, on HeritageQuest [the database] is a county history of Louisa Co., VA, which was formed from that *burned* county, Hanover Co. At the bottom I will try to paste my copy of the index entry from HeritageQuest.? Please know that Malcolm Hart Harris, an MD of several generations ago, compiled this history of Louisa Co. perhaps under a deadline.? Subsequent articles which he compiled appeared in earlier versions of The Virginia Genealogist, and at times he corrected statements which appear in the Louisa Co., VA history.? One article of particular interest, published some years ago, and authored by Dr. Harris indicated that there were three contemporary William Harrises.? I forget the exact title but as I remember it was entitled something like Three William Harrises [of Hanover Co.?] Anyway, this history of Louisa Co., VA (part of which became Albemarle Co.) refers to many of the families who intermarried with the Harrises.? I do caution you that there are errors, but if you are really puzzled (and need documentation) that you refer to tax records, tithable records, some books of deed and parish abstracts of Louisa Co. as compiled and published some years ago by Mrs. Rosalie Edith Davis.? (Some time ago, many persons were puzzled as to the fact that Mrs. Davis was not answering her e-mail.? I believe someone has taken over her e-mail and probably [I have not checked] taking care of orders ). Mrs. Davis's books were paperback and with use come apart. Nonetheless, as I read the introductions, it seems Mrs. Davis actually went to Richmond and read the films of Louisa Co., transcribed them, and published them.? Her introductions to her books are helpful. There is a rather extensive index in the history of Louisa Co..? I use the page number section at the top of the page and go to the last pages of the featured book and explore the index.? You can click around the various index pages to find the surnames you are searching.? Just be careful and try to document what Dr. Harris has written.? My impression is that in later days, he corrected some of the material, such as the articles in The Virginia Genealogist.. Re Claiborne - John Frederick Dorman, editor and publisher of The Virginia Genealogist, has helped a Claiborne relative compile a family history in the last decade or so, and Dorman refutes that a Claiborne female married a Harris male.? Do not overlook using the eight volumes of Cavaliers and Pioneers for Virginia land patents, which generally list the neighbors of whatever Harris male is receiving a land grant (patent).? You can also use the online Land Patents (include the title which includes Northern Neck land grants) at the Library of Virginia website. (google for the URL) Some genealogists--very patient ones with good eyesight--like to use the chancery records, also on the LVA website.? These have to do with heirs, sometimes squabbling over land or other inherited property.? E.W.Wallace Harris, Malcolm Hart.?[View Citation]?[Table of Contents]?[Page Numbers] History of Louisa County, Virginia Richmond, Va. ::?Dietz Press,,?1936,?538 pgs ------------------------------ To contact the HARRIS-HUNTERS list administrator, send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Does your local (or nearby) public library carry the online database called HeritageQuest?  This is a database useful for genealogists--many out of copyright books have been digitized. Of interest to descendants of the Harris families of around colonial Pamunkey River, a tributary (I am not consulting the atlas) of the Anna River (probably called North Anna River in and around Hanover Co. KY.  Current atlases show a BIG reservoir of late date.) At any rate, on HeritageQuest [the database] is a county history of Louisa Co., VA, which was formed from that *burned* county, Hanover Co. At the bottom I will try to paste my copy of the index entry from HeritageQuest.  Please know that Malcolm Hart Harris, an MD of several generations ago, compiled this history of Louisa Co. perhaps under a deadline.  Subsequent articles which he compiled appeared in earlier versions of The Virginia Genealogist, and at times he corrected statements which appear in the Louisa Co., VA history.  One article of particular interest, published some years ago, and authored by Dr. Harris indicated that there were three contemporary William Harrises.  I forget the exact title but as I remember it was entitled something like Three William Harrises [of Hanover Co.?] Anyway, this history of Louisa Co., VA (part of which became Albemarle Co.) refers to many of the families who intermarried with the Harrises.  I do caution you that there are errors, but if you are really puzzled (and need documentation) that you refer to tax records, tithable records, some books of deed and parish abstracts of Louisa Co. as compiled and published some years ago by Mrs. Rosalie Edith Davis.  (Some time ago, many persons were puzzled as to the fact that Mrs. Davis was not answering her e-mail.  I believe someone has taken over her e-mail and probably [I have not checked] taking care of orders ). Mrs. Davis's books were paperback and with use come apart. Nonetheless, as I read the introductions, it seems Mrs. Davis actually went to Richmond and read the films of Louisa Co., transcribed them, and published them.  Her introductions to her books are helpful. There is a rather extensive index in the history of Louisa Co..  I use the page number section at the top of the page and go to the last pages of the featured book and explore the index.  You can click around the various index pages to find the surnames you are searching.  Just be careful and try to document what Dr. Harris has written.  My impression is that in later days, he corrected some of the material, such as the articles in The Virginia Genealogist.. Re Claiborne - John Frederick Dorman, editor and publisher of The Virginia Genealogist, has helped a Claiborne relative compile a family history in the last decade or so, and Dorman refutes that a Claiborne female married a Harris male.  Do not overlook using the eight volumes of Cavaliers and Pioneers for Virginia land patents, which generally list the neighbors of whatever Harris male is receiving a land grant (patent).  You can also use the online Land Patents (include the title which includes Northern Neck land grants) at the Library of Virginia website. (google for the URL) Some genealogists--very patient ones with good eyesight--like to use the chancery records, also on the LVA website.  These have to do with heirs, sometimes squabbling over land or other inherited property.  E.W.Wallace Harris, Malcolm Hart. [View Citation] [Table of Contents] [Page Numbers] History of Louisa County, Virginia Richmond, Va. :: Dietz Press,, 1936, 538 pgs

Begin forwarded message: > From: Ira Harris <barebear@insightbb.com> > Date: April 20, 2012 6:25:24 PM CDT > To: ALMARION-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Harris' Buried in Marion County > > I am looking for information concerning the following people named Harris. > > 1. Claude Guyton Harris (November 16, 1918-March 27, 1984) Bured in Carter Cemetery, Marion County, Alabama > > 2. Hobson Harris (May 27, 1916-January 20, 1917) Buried in Carter Cemetery, Marion County, Alabama > > 3. Dorthy K. Harris (September 21, 1926-October 31, 1972) Buried Center Cemetery, Brilliant, Marion County, Alabama > > 4. Troy Harris (December 30, 1904-January 29, 1941) and wife, Ninnie Harris (September 26, 1905-August 25, 1967) Bured in Carter Cemetery, Marion County, Alabama > > > Any information is appreciated. Need parents, spouses, etc. > Please respond through ALMARION so that others may be helped. > > Ira L. Harris III >

If you are a newbie doing research in Pennsylvania, may I suggest that you invest a few dollars (less than $20) and do a google.com search for this author:  Dr. George K. Schweitzer, Knoxville, TN. Dr. Schweitzer has compiled (some years ago) some inexpensive books about how to conduct genealogy searches for various States.  He was long a professor of chemisty (I think) and knows how one has to research to get results.  His books are a little out of date, but they are relatively inexpenisve and packable.  He uses LOTS of abbreviations, so you may have to begin at the beginning of the  book.  He tells how to progress with your research--and how to get organized.  (We all need that!) In the back of the book on Pennsylvania, as well as other states, he gives a rundown on each county in that state.  However, do not neglect reading the first part of the book.  He tells you how to approach an archives--or maybe a county clerk (some are rather haughty) to get the best results. Also, do a google.com search for the county + genealogy and see if there is a rootsweb list or better, a gen forum list. All queries need these items:  Name (hopefully not too common); approximate dates; place or approximate place I have lost touch with how to competently search on familysearch.org, but there is a catalog--and under Education (perhaps) you can find a research outline for Pennsylvania.  You may want to download the latter for proper guidance.  There should be a research outline for every state in the US plus additional ones for European countries, and, increasingly, for Asian and South American countries. Good luck. E.W.Wallace ________________________________ From: "Brocious, Lori" <lbrociou@keystonehumanservices.org> To: harris-hunters@rootsweb.com; Harris-DNA-L@rootsweb.com; hudson-dna@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 6:23 AM Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] delete first email -- Information K!! Sorry all, without the k!! the message goes through a secure server. While applying to get my state birth cert. for my passport which wouldn't accept the hospital one, I received some good information. My father always said he was from Plains, PA, when in fact he was born in Parsons, PA. Although I live in PA, I don't know if that makes a big difference but when I have the time it's a good place to begin. Lori Lori Harris- Brocious, CPRP Keystone Center of Chambersburg 430-434 Phoenix Dr. Chambersburg, PA  17201 717-262-9010 Fax- 717-262-9014 (k!! is used for non- confidential transmissions) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email contains information from the sender that may be CONFIDENTIAL, LEGALLY PRIVILEGED, PROPRIETARY, or otherwise protected from disclosure.  This email is intended for use only by the person or entity to whom it is addressed.  If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure, copying, distribution, printing, or any action taken in reliance on the contents of this email, is strictly prohibited.  If you received this email in error, please contact the sending party by replying in an email to the sender, delete the email from your computer system and shred any paper copies of the email you printed.  The sender of this message will fully cooperate in the civil and criminal prosecution of any individual engaging in the unauthorized use of this message. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry all, without the k!! the message goes through a secure server. While applying to get my state birth cert. for my passport which wouldn't accept the hospital one, I received some good information. My father always said he was from Plains, PA, when in fact he was born in Parsons, PA. Although I live in PA, I don't know if that makes a big difference but when I have the time it's a good place to begin. Lori Lori Harris- Brocious, CPRP Keystone Center of Chambersburg 430-434 Phoenix Dr. Chambersburg, PA 17201 717-262-9010 Fax- 717-262-9014 (k!! is used for non- confidential transmissions) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email contains information from the sender that may be CONFIDENTIAL, LEGALLY PRIVILEGED, PROPRIETARY, or otherwise protected from disclosure. This email is intended for use only by the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure, copying, distribution, printing, or any action taken in reliance on the contents of this email, is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sending party by replying in an email to the sender, delete the email from your computer system and shred any paper copies of the email you printed. The sender of this message will fully cooperate in the civil and criminal prosecution of any individual engaging in the unauthorized use of this message.

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Dear Listers: If you have been thinking of doing genetic genealogy or have already tested and want to upgrade, there is a short sale ending midnight, Saturday, April 21. If I were to recommend anything, it would be the Family Finder which both men and women can take. Familytreedna.com Please write me with any questions. Pat Harris Dear Project Administrator, Well if you haven’t heard it’s again DNA day tomorrow and Family Tree DNA felt that was good enough for us to have a short two day sale. Nearly the entire offering will be on sale these two days, including upgrades that were not on last year's sale. The sale will begin at 6PM Thursday April 19th and will conclude at 11:59PM on Saturday April 21st. There will be no need for a coupon - all prices will be automatically adjusted on the website. We hope that this will give a big boost to your projects! New Kits Current Group Price SALE PRICE Y-DNA 12 $99 $59 mtDNA $99 $59 Y-DNA 37 $149 $129 Y-DNA 67 $238 $199 Family Finder $289 $199 mtFullSequence (FMS) $299 $249 Y-DNA 12 + mtDNA $179 $118 FF + Y-DNA 12 $339 $258 FF + mtDNA $339 $258 FF+ Y-DNA 37 $438 $328 FF + mtDNAPlus $438 $328 Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-DNA 67) $797 $657 Upgrades Y-DNA 12 $89 $59 mtDNA add-on $89 $59 Y-DNA 12-37 Marker $99 $69 Y-DNA 37-67 Marker $99 $79 Y-DNA 12-67 Marker $199 $148 mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR1 to Mega) $269 $199 mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR2 to Mega) $269 $199 mtFullSequence add-on $289 $219 Family Finder add-on $289 $199

Family Tree is having a big sale from 6 p.m. Thursday until 11:50 on Saturday April 21st. See the prices listed below, which will automatically come up when you log in to your personal kit page. If you know someone who has not been tested at all, this would be an excellent time to get them into the Harris Project. They can join through the Harris Page at Family Tree DNA to get the discounts:http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Harris From: noreply@familytreedna.com To: Subject: DNA Day Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:38:54 -0500 Dear Project Administrator, Well if you haven’t heard it’s again DNA day tomorrow and Family Tree DNA felt that was good enough for us to have a short two day sale. Nearly the entire offering will be on sale these two days, including upgrades that were not on last year's sale. The sale will begin at 6PM Thursday April 19th and will conclude at 11:59PM on Saturday April 21st. There will be no need for a coupon - all prices will be automatically adjusted on the website. We hope that this will give a big boost to your projects! New Kits Current Group Price SALE PRICE Y-DNA 12 $99 $59 mtDNA $99 $59 Y-DNA 37 $149 $129 Y-DNA 67 $238 $199 Family Finder $289 $199 mtFullSequence (FMS) $299 $249 Y-DNA 12 + mtDNA $179 $118 FF + Y-DNA 12 $339 $258 FF + mtDNA $339 $258 FF+ Y-DNA 37 $438 $328 FF + mtDNAPlus $438 $328 Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-DNA 67) $797 $657 Upgrades Y-DNA 12 $89 $59 mtDNA add-on $89 $59 Y-DNA 12-37 Marker $99 $69 Y-DNA 37-67 Marker $99 $79 Y-DNA 12-67 Marker $199 $148 mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR1 to Mega) $269 $199 mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR2 to Mega) $269 $199 mtFullSequence add-on $289 $219 Family Finder add-on $289 $199 Login to place your order. You are welcome to blog about this, report this to your group members, or send an email to your distribution list, but when it’s over, it’s over. As always, we appreciate your continued support. Best regards, Bennett Greenspan © All Contents Copyright 2001-2012 Genealogy by Genetics, Ltd.

Dear M. A. - Unless you have taken a look at the so-called 1787 census of Virginia (3 volumes), you will note that these are NOT land tax records. They are personal property records (personal property and not land).  For some counties, there are three different lists.  Since I do research in Albemarle Co., I noted that Thomas Jefferson had wheeled carriages. Widows are counted, if they had personal property, even though they may or may not have been taxed.  If she, the widow, had a tithable son or two, those would be listed under her name. Only when I paid CLOSE attention to ALL the Harrises of Virginia (3rd volume is an extensive index) did I note that Christopher Harris, my ancestor, is listed twice.  He is listed for Albemarle Co. (same as Jefferson's tax list) and also in Madison Co.  So I could approximate when he was making the move to Kentucky.  Even after he died, one John Harris was appointed his executor (or administrator) in Albemarle Co.  I think Chris's widow, the former Agnes McCord, gave consent for this assignment of John Harris.  I don't recall the details now, but it seems Christopher still had property in Albemarle Co. These books are quite expensive, and some FHCs, if they have these volumes, used to shelve them with the census indexes. Some Universities may have these volumes.  They are worth noting.  Genealogy is hit or miss, anyway!!! E.W.Wallace ________________________________ From: M. A. Farrell <mafarr28@peoplepc.com> To: EVELYN WALLACE <hdanw@verizon.net>; madky@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [MADKY] Agnes McCord second wife of Christopher Harris of Albemarle Co. VA & Madison Co, KY Evelyn, the so-called 1787 'census' book, constructed from limited tax lists, omits so many of the people actually living in Kentucky District in that year.  This is a serious problem; when viewing the actual tax lists for KY District areas, it is very obvious how many of the "lists" were lost or misplaced.  One of the first of these 'tax lists' I saw was transcribed by someone and proudly published in the Register of the KY Historical Society many, many years ago.  Little did anyone know that was only what appeared on one of the subject county's tax commissioner's list, omitting at least 4 more commissioner's lists for that year. It took many years of record-finding/conserving to reveal which of those many lists actually were found and which were forever missing. I believe the best reference for KY population from 1780's, are the actual microfilms of the various county tax lists, where the missing lists are clearly identified - which were many. Of course, for a quick reference of some of the residents, realizing more existed but were not named, this method of constructing 'census' from partial tax lists may be used with caveats. Mary Alice ............Evelyn wrote......................     "......The so-called 1787 Census of Virginia (personal property tax lists) compiled by Nettie Schreiner-Yantis and Florine S. Love, list Christopher Harris in two counties--Albemarle Co., VA and also Madison Co., then part of Virginia.  Look for this valued census (personal property tax lists for various Virginia counties--three volumes, the 3rd being the index to the two preceding volumes) in a University or good genealogical library near you......"  ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

Thanks so much, Evelyn, A lot of this information I already had, but you have added some new docs that I was completely unaware of. More to consider in trying to understand all of the information from the line from William & Temperance Overton Harris (including that coming from their eldest son, Robert {& Mourning Glenn Harris.}) Evelyn, I so thank you. You are such an excellent researcher, and have helped me so many times over the years. (And of course, you are so correct to insist that all the Harris researchers correctly-cite the sources that you have been so kind to share with all of us.) Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:harris-hunters-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of EVELYN WALLACE Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 2:56 PM To: Harris Hunters Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] William Overton, Probable Father of Temperance Overton If you use this material in your own genealogical writings, please include the citations, where I have inserted them.  All genealogical writings these days are expected to have citations.  In other words, where did you get this stuff?  As you probably know by now, researching colonial Virginians is an endless job, but sometimes every clue, even a mistaken one, is helpful.  Note that some clues about the Overton family may be found among the writings about the Winston family. Preparer:  Evelyn W. Wallace Rev 7/98 Added to Aug 2011      WILLIAM OVERTON, the elder.   A source for much of the Virginia information about the Overton family is said to have come from a book called "Josephus," held in the Winston family and said to have been given to John Winston in the will of his mother, Barbara Overton Winston.  It is said to probably have been a copy of Flavius Josephus's "Jewish Antiquities," which contained on its blank leaves a family register of births and marriages in the Overton-Winston families for five generations.  (Information from a letter in the George Harrison King collection entitled loosely "Overton-Carr," which collection is at the Virginia Historical Society, Richmond, VA.  Viewed by this writer May 1999 in Richmond, VA.)   According to Cross and Cole, WILLIAM CROSS OF BOTETOURT CO., VA. AND HIS DESCENDANTS (Columbia, MO: 1932), William Overton of "Glencairn," Hanover Co., VA emigrated to Virginia ca. 1681.  He was the son of Col. Robert Overton, and he was married to Elizabeth Waters, daughter of Samuel Waters (ca. 1617-1665) and his wife Anne (d. ca. 1700).      Clayton Torrence had a different perspective as he wrote the following of William Overton in WINSTON FAMILY OF VIRGINIA (publ. 1927, repository: Virginia State Library CS71 W782):      "... was born in England, December 3, 1628 [or 1638].  On November 24, 1670, he married Elizabeth Waters, and together they came to Virginia in 1681, settling in St. Peters Parish, New Kent County.  On April 23, 1681, a patent was issued to William Overton and Eben Jones [Evan Jones] for 4600 acres lying in New Kent County on south side of Pamunkey River, on Falling Creek; for the transportation of 92 persons into the colony, and among the names of head-rights to this pattent appear:  William Overton and Elizabeth Overton.  On October 29, 1690, a patent issued to William Overton and John Lyddall for 837 acres lying in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent County, above main fork of Pamunkey River, next above a divident of land granted Jonathan Norwood and Ambrose Clre, late in the tenure of Samuel Ousteen." [Overton?]       Torrence cites the land patents, which are readily available to researchers in the early volumes of Nell Marion Nugent's CAVALIERS AND PIONEERS, especially Vol. II.  The land patents, originally in New Kent Co., later fell into a newly formed county, Hanover Co.  These are in Patent Bk 7-78 (co-patentee Evan Jones, 1681 the year) and in Patent Bk 8-121 (co-patentee John Lydall in 1690).      In a footnote, Torrence wrote:  To this time [1927], the parentage of William Overton has not been discovered, nor the place of his birth.  The Register of St. Sepulchre's [London] does not give the marriage of William Overton and Elizabeth Waters.  There were Overtons living in St. Sepulchre's Parish, London; but a careful search of the Births, Marriages and Buriels [sic] from 1662 (when the registers begin) up to 1700 has thrown no light on the 'origin' or relationships of William Overton.  Overton wills and administrations in the ARCHDEACONRY OF LONDON REGISTERS, 1413-1725, have also been investigated without favorable results.  For note on this discrepancy in statements as to year (1628 or 1638) of William Overton's birth see ante page 29, footnote."   [Note:  This researcher failed to photocopy Page 29.]      Francis Stuart Harmon, MA, LLB, LLD, compiled and edited ADAM'S EVES (privately published 1946).  Harmon, a descendant of William Overton, has a slightly different version.  Harmon states:  William, born 3 Dec 1638, probably was the son of Major General Robert Overton and his wife Anne Gardiner Overton.  "He came to Virginia in the sixteen sixties and on November 24, 1670 was married to Elizabeth (NOT Mary) Waters, at Yorktown on board the vessel which had transported her from England.  The records of Mathews County, Virginia show that William Overton paid fifty pounds of tobacco for the passage of his fiancee to Virginia.  Also Virginia land records show a grant of 4600 acres on the south side of the Pamunkey river to William Overton for transporting 92 persons to the colony, including Elizabeth Waters.  Another deed in 1680 conveyed land to him in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent Co., Virginia. .."      [Comment:  It is strange that the record of payment would be in Mathews Co., VA records, as that county was not formed until 1791; further, most of the county's records were destroyed by fire in 1865.  Torrence is probably the more reliable source.  In "Virginia Gleanings of England," in VIRGINIA MAGAZINE OF HISTORY & BIOGRAPHY, V. XI, p. 307, the author cites these land patents in condensed style, but adds that Pamunkey is "South Anna."  Then, there is a parenthetical addition "This land on which Barbara (Overton) Winston resided at her death in 1766."  Compare "South Anna" with some of the patents of the Harris family whose biographies are included in this writer's work.]      Harmon gives information about the parents of Elizabeth Waters.      "The will of Ann Waters, aged widow of Samuel Waters (b. about 1617-1665) of the Parish of St. Sepulchre's London, was dated September 29, 1697 and was proved at London by Thomas Waters, July 4, 1700.  A pertinent provision therein read:      'I give unto my daughter Elizabeth Overton, now in Virginia, the summe of tenn shillings and to my sonne in law, William Overton, her husband also tenn shillings...'"      Harmon lists six children of William and Elizabeth Waters Overton, one of whom was Temperance Overton, the ancestress of the writer.  See her separate biography.  Harmon is a descendant of Temperance's younger brother James Overton.      Clayton Torrence in his family history of the Winston family included the Overtons because the youngest Overton daughter, Barbara, became  the wife of John (or James) Winston, of Hanover Co. The Winston family, of course, was his main focus.      Torrence quotes from the copy of the Overton record as given in THE VIRGINIA MAGAZINE OF HISTORY AND BIOGRAPHY, Vol. XI, p. 306:      "William Overton was born December 3rd, 1628 [or 1638], in England.  Married Mary [sic:  Elizabeth] Waters November 24th, 1670.  Emigrated to Virginia.  Elizabeth, their daughter, born June 28th, 1673.  William Overton, their son, born Augst. 14th, 1675.  Temperance Overton, their daughter, born March 2, 1679.  Samuel Overton, their son, born Augst. 14, 1685.  James Overton, their son, born Augst. 14, 1688.  Barbara Overton, their daughter, born Feby 5, 1690.  Barbara Overton married John Winston.  Barbara Overton Winston died Octo. 30, 1766."       Torrence gives two dates for the birthdate of William Overton because of conflict in family records of descendants. Also there was conflict in whether the husband of Barbara Overton was John or James Winston.      Of William Overton, Malcolm Hart Harris has written much of the same information as cited above.  Harris traces Robert Harris through land patents and court documents.  He writes that "it is certain that the lands of Robert Harris lay along the headwaters of the branches of Ware Creek in New Kent County."  Harris gives specific locations as shown on modern-day maps.  He adds: "This land was owned by Robert Harris from prior to 1659 until after 1675/6."  Harris then cites a warrant issued by Governor Sir William Berkeley to the Escheator of New Kent County.  Among those appearing on the jury were Wm. Overton, Evan Jones (Overton's co-patentee in an early land patent), and Robt. Harris.       About this jury composition, Harris makes these remarks:     "This record confirms that Robert Harris was qualified for jury service, was a freeholder and resident of the County of New Kent.  Of equal interest is the association of William Overton on this jury.      "William Overton, the immigrant, was born in England 3 Dec 1638.  He came to Virginia and later his betrothed, Elizabeth Waters, followed him and they were married on the deck of the ship in which she came on 24 Nov 1670 at Yorktown.  They acquired land in New Kent County where they were established in 1673 when he served on the jury."        Harris lists the children of William Overton and Elizabeth Waters:  Elizabeth, William, Temperance (q.v.), Samuel, James, Barbara.     (Malcolm Hart Harris, "Major Robert Harris (CA 1630-CA 1701) of New Kent County, Virginia:  Was He Real or A Myth?" in THE VIRGINIA GENEALOGIST, V. 25, No 1, [1981] The Virginia Genealogist, Vol 20, pages 128 ff has an interesting entry concerning some legal action taken in New Kent Co.,late 1683.  The heading of various legal actions in early Virginia is headed Inquistions on Escheated Land 1665-1676..   The editor, John Frederick Dorman, has headed these transactons with these paragraphs: "In the collection of Virginia Miscellany in the Manuscripts Division of the Library of Congress there is a volume entitled Foreign Business and Inquistions, 1665-1676.  This volume was originaly a part of the recods of the Secretary of the Colony.  It came into the prossession of the Library of Congress with the Thomas Jefferson manuscripts. "A large portion of the contents of the volume related to inquisitions to determine whether land had escheatd to the crown.  The folling abstracts relate to these items only." Inquistion [law] a) an inquest or any judicial inquiry b) the written finding of such an inquiry. Escheat:[law] the reverting of property to the lord of the manor (in feudal law) to the crown (in England0, or to the government (in the U.S. when there are no legal heirs. One of these inquistions contains the names of certain persons who seemed to be on the jury.  At least three of these names are of interest to reseachers of these persons:  William Overton, Evan Jones, Robt. Harris. [p. 206 (of the inquistion)] New Kent Co., VA, 9 Oct 1673.  Tho. Hall, deputy escheator.  By warrant from Sir Wm. Berkeley 25 August last past.  To enquire whether Geo: Browne late of New Kentuc County died [seized of any land.  Jury find that Geo: Browne was possessed of 200 acres and the same doth escheate to his Majestie noe heirs appeareing. Wm. Hall                    Rich: Comings Tho. Hancock             Robt. Harris Wm. Overton               Benj: Strange Evan Jones                 Rich Haselwood Steph:    [blank]          Rich: Taylor Tho: Baker                  Tho. Ingell (John Frederick Dorman, "Inquisitions on Escheated Land 1665-1676" The Virginia Genealogist, Vol. 20, p. 174) Less than ten years later, William Overton and Evan Jones patented 4600 acs., New Kent Co., S. side Pomunky Riv., 23 Apr 1681, p. 78.  geg at mouth of the falling creek..... Then there is given a long list of 92 persons whom they claimed they had transported, including several persons with surname of Overton:  Wm. Overton is included as is Eliz. Overon..  Several persons with a Jones surname are listed.  (Nell Marion Nugent, Cavaliers and Pioneers, 1666-1695, vol 2 [Richmond:  Virginia State Library, 1977]. p. 218-219) Early Overtons in Virginia      Is it possible William Overton had relatives already in the New World?  One John Overton and his wife Penelope appear in the deed books of Old Rappahannock Co., VA in 1687.  (Refer to Ruth & Sam Sparacio, DEED ABSTRACTS OF (OLD) RAPPAHANNOCK COUNTY, VIRGINIA, 1686-1688  3 March 1686-12 November 1688 [McLean, VA:  The Antient Press, 1990], p. 92)   Their land was on Totuskey Creek.      A recent visit in the late 1990s to England by this writer, however, indicates that Overton is a rather common place name in England.  Therefore, it is conceivable that the Overton family along the James River bears no relationship to that family in Old Rapphannock Co., VA. Later Overton Family Members - 1782      There is evidence in 1782 tax list of Hanover Co., VA (formed from New Kent Co.) of the prevalence of Overton family members and evidence of the beginning use of this surname as a given name, especially for members of the Harris family.  Since surnames of other families with whom the Harrises are intermarried are found in Hanover Co. also (Glen, Grubbs, Gentry, Dabney), they were probably interrelated.  The following were listed in Capt John Thomson's and Thomas Price's companies of militia--list of John Lawrence, gent'n.      Samuel Overton (estate) 7 whites; 69 blacks.      William Overton (estate) 1 white; 29 blacks.      Mildred Overton 4 whites; 3 blacks.      One would deduce from the number of slaves that the Overtons were of the planter class. Overton Surnames in Northern Neck Virginia      Edmond Overton and his widow Margaret Overton appear in Richmond Co., VA records:      It is unknown whether Edmond Overton was related to the Overtons of Tidewater Virginia.  He was deceased by 4 June 1714, Richmond Co., VA.  Margt: her mark + Overton, John Rankin, and John White gave administrators bond on that date.      (Ruth & Sam Sparacio, DEED ABSTRACTS OF RICHMOND COUNTY, VIRGINIA 1711-1714, Richmond County Deeds, p. 50.)      Some Descendants of Overton in Kentucky      From Thomas Speed, THE POLITICAL CLUB, DANVILLE, KENTUCKY, 1786-1790, BEING AN ACCOUNT OF AN EARLY KENTUCKY SOCIETY FROM THE ORIGINAL PAPERS RECENTLY FOUND (Louisville:  Filson Club Publication No. 9, 1894)     "John and James Overton.  At a very early day four Overton brothers came to Kentucky from Virginia.  They were natives of Louisa County, Virginia.  Clough Overton was killed at the battle of Blue Licks.  Waller Overton settled in Fayette County.  James and John Overton resided at Danville.  They were sons of James Overton and grandsons of William Overton, who emigrated from England about 1670.      "William, the emigrant, was a son of Colonel Overton, a distinguished soldier in the Parliamentary War.  History first takes note of him a letter of October 2, 1647, from Lieutenant-General Oliver Cromwell to Sir Thomas Fairfax, General of the Parliamentary forces, recommending that Colonel Overton, then commanding a regiment in the field, be appointed Governor of Hull, an important fortress and depot of supplies.  The appointment was made, and Colonel Overton remained in command of Hull and its garrison until the breaking out of the second Parliamentary War, when he again took the field, commanding a brigade at Dunbar and Inverkeithing, in which latter "mercy," as Cromwell called his victories, he won flattering mention in one of Cromwell's pious letters to Speaker Lenthal, of the House of Commons.      "Colonel Overton was, however, a Presbyterian and 'friend of Milton," as Carlyle says, and was suspected of sympathy with his brother Covenanters in his quarrel with Cromwell and the Puritans.     "After the conquest of Scotland he was sent for to Whitehall and admonished; and again in December, 1654, he was sent for and questioned about a reported conspiracy to depose General Monk and place him (Colonel Overton) at the head of the army then in Scotland.  The end of this last 'lecture' was a commitment to the Tower, where he probably died.      "Colonel Overton's son William was born in 1638.  He married Mary Waters, a young lady of Roman Catholic faith and considerable fortune, and these two, Presbyterian and Catholic, left England after the Restoration and settled in Virginia on a grant of five thousand acres in Hanover County, which they named Glen Cairn.      "The following inscription on the tomb of one of their daughters is still legible:  'Here lies the body of Temperance Harris, deceased the 19th of February, 1710.'     [Here is a footnote "A descendant of Mrs. Temperance Harris is Judge W. Overton Harris, of the Louisville Bar, to whom I am indebted for this account of the Overton family."]      "One of their grandsons, John Overton, was an officer in the Revolutionary Army and father of the late William Overton, of Green Springs, in Louisa Co., Virginia, a country gentleman of wealth and social position, widely known for the virtues and graces which belonged to that class.      [Another footnote is appended:  In Wirt's Life of Patrick Henry is an account of a very interesting interview between Patrick Henry and Colonels Samuel and John Overton at the home of the latter.]       "Four other grandsons were the John, James, Waller, and Clough who removed to Kentucky.  Waller became a noted citizen of Fayette County, where his descendants still reside.  His daughter married the celebrated lawwyer, William T. Barry, and a daughter of this marriage became the wife of Colonel James Taylor, of Newport, Kentucky.  It is an interesting fact that Waller Overton was on the jury with Daniel Boone, in 1780, which escheated the lands of John Connolly, where the city of Louisville now stands.  George May was the escheator of the court at Lexington, and the jury found that Connolly of his own free will had joined with the British forces.      "James and John Overton were both lawyers.  While they lived at Danville the practiced in the court in other parts of the State.  James was sworn in as an attorney at Louisville, April 5, 1786.  While both were marked men, John was destined to the greater success and distinction.      "After practicing in Kentucky some years John Overton removed to Nashville, Tennessee, in 1789, where he  .... [incomplete] Other Members of the Overton Family       Relationships of these persons is unknown:       John Pettus of Louisa Co., VA wo died prior to Nov 1773 must have been descended from the Overton family or had married a woman who was a descendant.  This is apparent from the names of his orphans as indicated in Louisa Co. WB 3-223.       "Settlement of est. of John Pettus by Wm. Pettus, Admr.  To orphans of John Pettus as follows;  Samuel Overton Pettus, Ann Overton Pettus, Mary Waters Pettus, John Waters Pettus, Barbara Overton Pettus, Lucy Waters Pettus, Wm. Overton Pettus, Thomas Waters Pettus.  Dated 4 Nov 1775.  Signed:  Saml. Ragland, George Lumsden, Thomas Minor.  Rcd.  13 Nov 1773."       (Nancy Chappelear and Kate Binford Hatch, ABSTRACTS OF LOUISA COUNTY VIRGINIA WILLS 1743-1801 [Washington, DC:  1964], p. 93) Miscellaneous Note:      VA St Library CS71 B2268 1964  ADAMS EVE compiled & ed. by Francis Stuart Harmon, MA LLB LLD (re Banks-Bruce-Overton fams) p. 5:      On Feb 5, 1806, when he was 27, George Banks (V) married Jemima Ann Overton  (1789-1863) the fourth of the six daus of Rev Army Captain John Overton (IV) of Woodstock and his first wife Susanna Garland Overton (1766-1797). ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am sharing my notes, collected over the years.  If I have cited a source, and you decide to use this material in your own genealogical notes, please include the citation.  This is expected of all genealogists these days, amateur or not. I suspect the McCords came from western Pennsylvania down the Shenandoah Valley to Albemarle Co.  Thence to Madison co., KY.  The so-called 1787 Census of Virginia (personal property tax lists) compiled by Nettie Schreiner-Yantis and Florine S. Love, list Christopher Harris in two counties--Albemarle Co., VA and also Madison Co., then part of Virginia.  Look for this valued census (personal property tax lists for various Virginia counties--three volumes, the 3rd being the index to the two preceding volumes) in a University or good genealogical library near you.   E.W.Wallace      AGNES McCORD.  WIR00052. (d. ca 1815, Madison Co., KY)  Agnes was the second wife of Christopher Harris, of Albemarle Co., VA, later of Madison Co., KY.  They are believed to have been married in 1760, as their oldest son, Benjamin, is said to have been born 28 Nov 1760.  This information may need some "adjustment."        Thus, Agnes was probably at least age 14-18 at time of marriage.   However, preliminary research of Albemarle Co. deed indexes indicates that as late as 1768, Agnes may have been a single woman, but that by 1772, she was married to Harris.  However, having heard a number of lectures on Scottish ancestry, this writer has learned that Scottish women kept their maiden names, even after marriage.  This was reinforced by examination of a cemetery and tombstones for women in Scotland on a visit there in the 1990s.      As seen from the deed entry in Albemarle Co., in  late 1760, Agnes McCord seems to have been a single woman, not yet married to Christopher Harris.      [Albemarle Co.] DB 2, Page 294: 14 Aug 1760  Wm. McCord, Par. of St. Ann, Albemarle Co., to sister, Agnes McCord - love and 5 sh. 174 acres both sides Moorman River near Blue Ledge.  Pat to Jas. McCord, dec'd."/s/ William McCord.  [No. wit.]       (Rev. Bailey Fulton Davis, THE DEEDS OF AMHERST COUNTY, VIRGINIA, 1761-1807 and ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA, 1748-1763 [Amherst, VA, 1970] LAFHC 975.5482 P2a)      (Blue Ledge may be the same as Blue Ridge, found in patent to Robert Harris, the father of Christopher Harris:   6 Dec 1753 - Patent to Robert Harris on Blue Ridge, Doyle River ) A 1766 patent to Mosias Jones refer to the lines of John McCord, Sr. and Agness McCord, thus: Patent Book No. 36:  Mosias Jones, 90 acs. Albemarle Co. on both sides of Moreman's Riv., adj John McCord & Agness McCord; 10 Jul 1766, p. 940.  10 shill. (Dennis Ray Hudgins, ed., CAVALIERS AND PIONEERS, Vol. VII [Richmond:  Virginia Genealogical Society, 1999], p. 95)      Indexes of deeds examined in 1997 indicate that by 1771/1772, Agnes had married Christopher Harris, as their names appear in Albemarle Co. Deed Bk 5 (Jan Ct 1771-Aug Ct 1772).  More study is needed.      Recorded in Augusta Co., VA, Deed Bk 22-397:      17 Nov 1778  Christopher Harris and Agnes of Albemarle to John Collins.  Delivered:  Thos. Turk, Aug 1779.     (Lyman Chalkley in CHRONICLES OF THE SCOTTISH-IRISH SETTLEMENT IN VIRGINIA, V. 3; Chalkley also  indicates that Deed Bk 22, p. 395, Augusta Co., VA had a deed executed by Christopher Harris and Agness (--) 17 Nov 1778, but details were not given.)      Agnes died in Madison Co., KY prior to Aug 1815, when the court commissioners settled with her administrators   Her younger son Overton Harris (writer's ancestor) and a son-in-law John Bennett were administrators.      DB... [omitted by Madison Co. genealogist], p. 244:  "Pursuant to an order of the County Court of Madison to us directed to settle with Overton Harris and John Bennett Administrators of the Estate of Agnes Harris Deceased we the undersigned Commissioners being first sworne do settle with the administrators and Report as followoers [sic] (to wit)  To amount of sale Bill as C Report of Adm           $1,979.14 McCords of Madison Co., KY      Some of the McCords went to Madison Co., KY, but their relationship to Agnes is unknown.  David McCord was grantee, Robert Burton, grantor. DB C-244. 1 Apr 1794, 100 A Otter Cr.     From Madison Co., KY DB Index:  Agnes Harris, grantor; Jesse Winburn, grantee; Comr. Deed, 6 Jun 1815, K-564, 21 1/2 A. Otter Cr. Origins of McCord Family      The origins of the McCord family are unknown.  They may have been Scotch-Irish from Pennsylvania who migrated down the Shenandoah Valley.  Since a land transaction by Christopher Harris and his wife Agnes was recorded in Augusta Co., VA, search for McCords in that county was made.       [Book not noted] page 264 18th June 1763.  Joseph McCord's estate appraised, by Robert Erwin, Nathanl. Davis, Jno. Gilmer--John McCord's, Jr. note; Benj. McCord's note; William Little's note; Robt. Miller's note; Thos. Grubbs' note; Wm. McCord's note.  Cash, Mary Brown, debtor, Elizabeth Woods, Dr. Jno Scott, dr.      In this document are listed a number of males by the name McCord; they have the same names as the sons of John McCord [Sr.], as named in his will: Benjamin, William, and John.  Grubbs family was associated with the Harris family, at least in Kentucky. Kentucky Residence      Agnes Harris (widow by that time) appeared in the 1810 census of Madison Co., KY:  Males: 16-26: 3.  45 & over: 2. Females:  26-45: 1.  45 & over: 1.  Other:  1. Slaves:  10.      Document of Agnes McCord  1 Jul 1794, Madison Co., KY.      "Know all men by these [sic] that I Agnes Harris of the County of Madison and State of Kentucky [illegible but probably executrix] to the last will and Testament of Christopher Harris Deceased for Divers good causes and considerations me hereunto moving have appointed John Harris of the County of Albermarle [sic], and state of Virginia, my true and lawfull attorney for me and my heirs to Take all Lawfull ways and means whatsoever to carry into full & ample execution, the will of the said Christvr Harris Deceased, according to the true Intent and Meaning of said will in as full and as single a manner as if I myself was personally present hereby Ratifying and confirming whatever my said attorney may legally do by virtue of these presents, In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal this first day of July 1794.  /s./ Agnes Harris /LS/ Robert Tevis Edward S...state (From Madison Co. DB C-186, film no. FHL 183,284]       Agnes died prior to August. 1814.  Madison Co., KY. Wills, 1814:      At a court continued and held for Madison County on the 3rd day of Augt. 1814.  This inventory and appraisment of the estate of Agnis Harris decd was returned and ordered to be recorded and the said has been done.      (s) Will. Irvine, clk.      Will Bk -- p. 244      Pursuant to an order of the County Court of Madison to us directed to settle with Overton Harris and John Bennett, Administrators of the Estate of Agness Harris deceased we the undersigned commissioners being first sworne do settle with the administrators and report as followers [sic] to wit      To amount of sale Bill as C Report of Adm              $1979.14 Page 245      By cash due Overton Harris on previous account       290      By Keley Receipt as cryer at sale                                 4      By Butler & Searcy Receipt for Coffin                            2      By Clerks fee Bill                                                        1.70 1/2      By Jas Nicholas Receipt apraisor                                  1      By Wm. Carr Receipt for smith's work                           10.50      By Richardson Receipt as clerk to the sale                     2      By Whiskey Drank at Sale                                           10      By B. Milner's Receipt for Nicking horse                         8      By tax and leavy to be collected in 1815                         8.50      By Overton Harris charges for servses [sic] as Administrator, Collecting, and paying away $1979.14 at 5 percent              98.95      By cash paid to commissioners at $1.50 each                    4.50      By clerks fee Bill                                                              .50          -------      Ballance due the estate by administrators                    441.65.42      -----------      As witness our hands and seal this 8th day August      R. A. Sturgus (?) (seal)      Humphrey Jones (seal)      William Stone (seal)      At a court held for Madison County on Monday the 6th day of May 1816      This settlement with John Bennett and Overton Harris administrators of Agness Harris deceased was returned and ordered to be recorded.      Test Will Irvine Lack of Information on McCord Ancestry      There is no information in the various attempted genealogies of the Harris family of Albemarle Co. and of early Kentucky on the family of Agnes McCord. However, we learn from Augusta Co. VA Will Book 3 that other McCords were in Albemarle Co. ca. 1762, and others were in Augusta Co. from 1749.  Perhaps they migrated there from Pennsylvania.  Apparently they were Presbyterians.  Refer to biography of John McCord [Sr.].      Some of the McCords found in Lyman Chalkley's CHRONICLES OF THE SCOTCH-IRISH SETTLEMENTS IN VIRGINIA are as follows.  All were located in Augusta Co. unless the contrary is indicated:      Martha McCord - deceased by 27 Feb 1749      James McCord, orphan of Wm. McCord - 1750.  Later in the year James was of age (age 14 generally) to choose his own guardian.      Sarah McCord's nuncupative will.  Sister Mary; brother Adam.      Joseph McCord's will, 25 Nov 1762.  Wife Mary.  Brother John. Mentions land near Moorman's River in Albemarle Co., where the Harrises also held land.      Joseph McCord's estate - 18 Jun 1763; John McCord Jr.'s note; John McCord Sr.'s note; Benj. McCord's note; Adam McCord & James McCord's note. Wm. McCord's note; Thomas Grubbs note.  [Grubbs is a family with whom the Harris family intermarried; perhaps the McCords had also intermarried with the Grubbs family.] .... ,

If you use this material in your own genealogical writings, please include the citations, where I have inserted them.  All genealogical writings these days are expected to have citations.  In other words, where did you get this stuff?  As you probably know by now, researching colonial Virginians is an endless job, but sometimes every clue, even a mistaken one, is helpful.  Note that some clues about the Overton family may be found among the writings about the Winston family. Preparer:  Evelyn W. Wallace Rev 7/98 Added to Aug 2011      WILLIAM OVERTON, the elder.   A source for much of the Virginia information about the Overton family is said to have come from a book called "Josephus," held in the Winston family and said to have been given to John Winston in the will of his mother, Barbara Overton Winston.  It is said to probably have been a copy of Flavius Josephus's "Jewish Antiquities," which contained on its blank leaves a family register of births and marriages in the Overton-Winston families for five generations.  (Information from a letter in the George Harrison King collection entitled loosely "Overton-Carr," which collection is at the Virginia Historical Society, Richmond, VA.  Viewed by this writer May 1999 in Richmond, VA.)   According to Cross and Cole, WILLIAM CROSS OF BOTETOURT CO., VA. AND HIS DESCENDANTS (Columbia, MO: 1932), William Overton of "Glencairn," Hanover Co., VA emigrated to Virginia ca. 1681.  He was the son of Col. Robert Overton, and he was married to Elizabeth Waters, daughter of Samuel Waters (ca. 1617-1665) and his wife Anne (d. ca. 1700).      Clayton Torrence had a different perspective as he wrote the following of William Overton in WINSTON FAMILY OF VIRGINIA (publ. 1927, repository: Virginia State Library CS71 W782):      "... was born in England, December 3, 1628 [or 1638].  On November 24, 1670, he married Elizabeth Waters, and together they came to Virginia in 1681, settling in St. Peters Parish, New Kent County.  On April 23, 1681, a patent was issued to William Overton and Eben Jones [Evan Jones] for 4600 acres lying in New Kent County on south side of Pamunkey River, on Falling Creek; for the transportation of 92 persons into the colony, and among the names of head-rights to this pattent appear:  William Overton and Elizabeth Overton.  On October 29, 1690, a patent issued to William Overton and John Lyddall for 837 acres lying in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent County, above main fork of Pamunkey River, next above a divident of land granted Jonathan Norwood and Ambrose Clre, late in the tenure of Samuel Ousteen." [Overton?]       Torrence cites the land patents, which are readily available to researchers in the early volumes of Nell Marion Nugent's CAVALIERS AND PIONEERS, especially Vol. II.  The land patents, originally in New Kent Co., later fell into a newly formed county, Hanover Co.  These are in Patent Bk 7-78 (co-patentee Evan Jones, 1681 the year) and in Patent Bk 8-121 (co-patentee John Lydall in 1690).      In a footnote, Torrence wrote:  To this time [1927], the parentage of William Overton has not been discovered, nor the place of his birth.  The Register of St. Sepulchre's [London] does not give the marriage of William Overton and Elizabeth Waters.  There were Overtons living in St. Sepulchre's Parish, London; but a careful search of the Births, Marriages and Buriels [sic] from 1662 (when the registers begin) up to 1700 has thrown no light on the 'origin' or relationships of William Overton.  Overton wills and administrations in the ARCHDEACONRY OF LONDON REGISTERS, 1413-1725, have also been investigated without favorable results.  For note on this discrepancy in statements as to year (1628 or 1638) of William Overton's birth see ante page 29, footnote."   [Note:  This researcher failed to photocopy Page 29.]      Francis Stuart Harmon, MA, LLB, LLD, compiled and edited ADAM'S EVES (privately published 1946).  Harmon, a descendant of William Overton, has a slightly different version.  Harmon states:  William, born 3 Dec 1638, probably was the son of Major General Robert Overton and his wife Anne Gardiner Overton.  "He came to Virginia in the sixteen sixties and on November 24, 1670 was married to Elizabeth (NOT Mary) Waters, at Yorktown on board the vessel which had transported her from England.  The records of Mathews County, Virginia show that William Overton paid fifty pounds of tobacco for the passage of his fiancee to Virginia.  Also Virginia land records show a grant of 4600 acres on the south side of the Pamunkey river to William Overton for transporting 92 persons to the colony, including Elizabeth Waters.  Another deed in 1680 conveyed land to him in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent Co., Virginia. .."      [Comment:  It is strange that the record of payment would be in Mathews Co., VA records, as that county was not formed until 1791; further, most of the county's records were destroyed by fire in 1865.  Torrence is probably the more reliable source.  In "Virginia Gleanings of England," in VIRGINIA MAGAZINE OF HISTORY & BIOGRAPHY, V. XI, p. 307, the author cites these land patents in condensed style, but adds that Pamunkey is "South Anna."  Then, there is a parenthetical addition "This land on which Barbara (Overton) Winston resided at her death in 1766."  Compare "South Anna" with some of the patents of the Harris family whose biographies are included in this writer's work.]      Harmon gives information about the parents of Elizabeth Waters.      "The will of Ann Waters, aged widow of Samuel Waters (b. about 1617-1665) of the Parish of St. Sepulchre's London, was dated September 29, 1697 and was proved at London by Thomas Waters, July 4, 1700.  A pertinent provision therein read:      'I give unto my daughter Elizabeth Overton, now in Virginia, the summe of tenn shillings and to my sonne in law, William Overton, her husband also tenn shillings...'"      Harmon lists six children of William and Elizabeth Waters Overton, one of whom was Temperance Overton, the ancestress of the writer.  See her separate biography.  Harmon is a descendant of Temperance's younger brother James Overton.      Clayton Torrence in his family history of the Winston family included the Overtons because the youngest Overton daughter, Barbara, became  the wife of John (or James) Winston, of Hanover Co. The Winston family, of course, was his main focus.      Torrence quotes from the copy of the Overton record as given in THE VIRGINIA MAGAZINE OF HISTORY AND BIOGRAPHY, Vol. XI, p. 306:      "William Overton was born December 3rd, 1628 [or 1638], in England.  Married Mary [sic:  Elizabeth] Waters November 24th, 1670.  Emigrated to Virginia.  Elizabeth, their daughter, born June 28th, 1673.  William Overton, their son, born Augst. 14th, 1675.  Temperance Overton, their daughter, born March 2, 1679.  Samuel Overton, their son, born Augst. 14, 1685.  James Overton, their son, born Augst. 14, 1688.  Barbara Overton, their daughter, born Feby 5, 1690.  Barbara Overton married John Winston.  Barbara Overton Winston died Octo. 30, 1766."       Torrence gives two dates for the birthdate of William Overton because of conflict in family records of descendants. Also there was conflict in whether the husband of Barbara Overton was John or James Winston.      Of William Overton, Malcolm Hart Harris has written much of the same information as cited above.  Harris traces Robert Harris through land patents and court documents.  He writes that "it is certain that the lands of Robert Harris lay along the headwaters of the branches of Ware Creek in New Kent County."  Harris gives specific locations as shown on modern-day maps.  He adds: "This land was owned by Robert Harris from prior to 1659 until after 1675/6."  Harris then cites a warrant issued by Governor Sir William Berkeley to the Escheator of New Kent County.  Among those appearing on the jury were Wm. Overton, Evan Jones (Overton's co-patentee in an early land patent), and Robt. Harris.       About this jury composition, Harris makes these remarks:     "This record confirms that Robert Harris was qualified for jury service, was a freeholder and resident of the County of New Kent.  Of equal interest is the association of William Overton on this jury.      "William Overton, the immigrant, was born in England 3 Dec 1638.  He came to Virginia and later his betrothed, Elizabeth Waters, followed him and they were married on the deck of the ship in which she came on 24 Nov 1670 at Yorktown.  They acquired land in New Kent County where they were established in 1673 when he served on the jury."        Harris lists the children of William Overton and Elizabeth Waters:  Elizabeth, William, Temperance (q.v.), Samuel, James, Barbara.     (Malcolm Hart Harris, "Major Robert Harris (CA 1630-CA 1701) of New Kent County, Virginia:  Was He Real or A Myth?" in THE VIRGINIA GENEALOGIST, V. 25, No 1, [1981] The Virginia Genealogist, Vol 20, pages 128 ff has an interesting entry concerning some legal action taken in New Kent Co.,late 1683.  The heading of various legal actions in early Virginia is headed Inquistions on Escheated Land 1665-1676..   The editor, John Frederick Dorman, has headed these transactons with these paragraphs: "In the collection of Virginia Miscellany in the Manuscripts Division of the Library of Congress there is a volume entitled Foreign Business and Inquistions, 1665-1676.  This volume was originaly a part of the recods of the Secretary of the Colony.  It came into the prossession of the Library of Congress with the Thomas Jefferson manuscripts. "A large portion of the contents of the volume related to inquisitions to determine whether land had escheatd to the crown.  The folling abstracts relate to these items only." Inquistion [law] a) an inquest or any judicial inquiry b) the written finding of such an inquiry. Escheat:[law] the reverting of property to the lord of the manor (in feudal law) to the crown (in England0, or to the government (in the U.S. when there are no legal heirs. One of these inquistions contains the names of certain persons who seemed to be on the jury.  At least three of these names are of interest to reseachers of these persons:  William Overton, Evan Jones, Robt. Harris. [p. 206 (of the inquistion)] New Kent Co., VA, 9 Oct 1673.  Tho. Hall, deputy escheator.  By warrant from Sir Wm. Berkeley 25 August last past.  To enquire whether Geo: Browne late of New Kentuc County died [seized of any land.  Jury find that Geo: Browne was possessed of 200 acres and the same doth escheate to his Majestie noe heirs appeareing. Wm. Hall                    Rich: Comings Tho. Hancock             Robt. Harris Wm. Overton               Benj: Strange Evan Jones                 Rich Haselwood Steph:    [blank]          Rich: Taylor Tho: Baker                  Tho. Ingell (John Frederick Dorman, "Inquisitions on Escheated Land 1665-1676" The Virginia Genealogist, Vol. 20, p. 174) Less than ten years later, William Overton and Evan Jones patented 4600 acs., New Kent Co., S. side Pomunky Riv., 23 Apr 1681, p. 78.  geg at mouth of the falling creek..... Then there is given a long list of 92 persons whom they claimed they had transported, including several persons with surname of Overton:  Wm. Overton is included as is Eliz. Overon..  Several persons with a Jones surname are listed.  (Nell Marion Nugent, Cavaliers and Pioneers, 1666-1695, vol 2 [Richmond:  Virginia State Library, 1977]. p. 218-219) Early Overtons in Virginia      Is it possible William Overton had relatives already in the New World?  One John Overton and his wife Penelope appear in the deed books of Old Rappahannock Co., VA in 1687.  (Refer to Ruth & Sam Sparacio, DEED ABSTRACTS OF (OLD) RAPPAHANNOCK COUNTY, VIRGINIA, 1686-1688  3 March 1686-12 November 1688 [McLean, VA:  The Antient Press, 1990], p. 92)   Their land was on Totuskey Creek.      A recent visit in the late 1990s to England by this writer, however, indicates that Overton is a rather common place name in England.  Therefore, it is conceivable that the Overton family along the James River bears no relationship to that family in Old Rapphannock Co., VA. Later Overton Family Members - 1782      There is evidence in 1782 tax list of Hanover Co., VA (formed from New Kent Co.) of the prevalence of Overton family members and evidence of the beginning use of this surname as a given name, especially for members of the Harris family.  Since surnames of other families with whom the Harrises are intermarried are found in Hanover Co. also (Glen, Grubbs, Gentry, Dabney), they were probably interrelated.  The following were listed in Capt John Thomson's and Thomas Price's companies of militia--list of John Lawrence, gent'n.      Samuel Overton (estate) 7 whites; 69 blacks.      William Overton (estate) 1 white; 29 blacks.      Mildred Overton 4 whites; 3 blacks.      One would deduce from the number of slaves that the Overtons were of the planter class. Overton Surnames in Northern Neck Virginia      Edmond Overton and his widow Margaret Overton appear in Richmond Co., VA records:      It is unknown whether Edmond Overton was related to the Overtons of Tidewater Virginia.  He was deceased by 4 June 1714, Richmond Co., VA.  Margt: her mark + Overton, John Rankin, and John White gave administrators bond on that date.      (Ruth & Sam Sparacio, DEED ABSTRACTS OF RICHMOND COUNTY, VIRGINIA 1711-1714, Richmond County Deeds, p. 50.)      Some Descendants of Overton in Kentucky      From Thomas Speed, THE POLITICAL CLUB, DANVILLE, KENTUCKY, 1786-1790, BEING AN ACCOUNT OF AN EARLY KENTUCKY SOCIETY FROM THE ORIGINAL PAPERS RECENTLY FOUND (Louisville:  Filson Club Publication No. 9, 1894)     "John and James Overton.  At a very early day four Overton brothers came to Kentucky from Virginia.  They were natives of Louisa County, Virginia.  Clough Overton was killed at the battle of Blue Licks.  Waller Overton settled in Fayette County.  James and John Overton resided at Danville.  They were sons of James Overton and grandsons of William Overton, who emigrated from England about 1670.      "William, the emigrant, was a son of Colonel Overton, a distinguished soldier in the Parliamentary War.  History first takes note of him a letter of October 2, 1647, from Lieutenant-General Oliver Cromwell to Sir Thomas Fairfax, General of the Parliamentary forces, recommending that Colonel Overton, then commanding a regiment in the field, be appointed Governor of Hull, an important fortress and depot of supplies.  The appointment was made, and Colonel Overton remained in command of Hull and its garrison until the breaking out of the second Parliamentary War, when he again took the field, commanding a brigade at Dunbar and Inverkeithing, in which latter "mercy," as Cromwell called his victories, he won flattering mention in one of Cromwell's pious letters to Speaker Lenthal, of the House of Commons.      "Colonel Overton was, however, a Presbyterian and 'friend of Milton," as Carlyle says, and was suspected of sympathy with his brother Covenanters in his quarrel with Cromwell and the Puritans.     "After the conquest of Scotland he was sent for to Whitehall and admonished; and again in December, 1654, he was sent for and questioned about a reported conspiracy to depose General Monk and place him (Colonel Overton) at the head of the army then in Scotland.  The end of this last 'lecture' was a commitment to the Tower, where he probably died.      "Colonel Overton's son William was born in 1638.  He married Mary Waters, a young lady of Roman Catholic faith and considerable fortune, and these two, Presbyterian and Catholic, left England after the Restoration and settled in Virginia on a grant of five thousand acres in Hanover County, which they named Glen Cairn.      "The following inscription on the tomb of one of their daughters is still legible:  'Here lies the body of Temperance Harris, deceased the 19th of February, 1710.'     [Here is a footnote "A descendant of Mrs. Temperance Harris is Judge W. Overton Harris, of the Louisville Bar, to whom I am indebted for this account of the Overton family."]      "One of their grandsons, John Overton, was an officer in the Revolutionary Army and father of the late William Overton, of Green Springs, in Louisa Co., Virginia, a country gentleman of wealth and social position, widely known for the virtues and graces which belonged to that class.      [Another footnote is appended:  In Wirt's Life of Patrick Henry is an account of a very interesting interview between Patrick Henry and Colonels Samuel and John Overton at the home of the latter.]       "Four other grandsons were the John, James, Waller, and Clough who removed to Kentucky.  Waller became a noted citizen of Fayette County, where his descendants still reside.  His daughter married the celebrated lawwyer, William T. Barry, and a daughter of this marriage became the wife of Colonel James Taylor, of Newport, Kentucky.  It is an interesting fact that Waller Overton was on the jury with Daniel Boone, in 1780, which escheated the lands of John Connolly, where the city of Louisville now stands.  George May was the escheator of the court at Lexington, and the jury found that Connolly of his own free will had joined with the British forces.      "James and John Overton were both lawyers.  While they lived at Danville the practiced in the court in other parts of the State.  James was sworn in as an attorney at Louisville, April 5, 1786.  While both were marked men, John was destined to the greater success and distinction.      "After practicing in Kentucky some years John Overton removed to Nashville, Tennessee, in 1789, where he  .... [incomplete] Other Members of the Overton Family       Relationships of these persons is unknown:       John Pettus of Louisa Co., VA wo died prior to Nov 1773 must have been descended from the Overton family or had married a woman who was a descendant.  This is apparent from the names of his orphans as indicated in Louisa Co. WB 3-223.       "Settlement of est. of John Pettus by Wm. Pettus, Admr.  To orphans of John Pettus as follows;  Samuel Overton Pettus, Ann Overton Pettus, Mary Waters Pettus, John Waters Pettus, Barbara Overton Pettus, Lucy Waters Pettus, Wm. Overton Pettus, Thomas Waters Pettus.  Dated 4 Nov 1775.  Signed:  Saml. Ragland, George Lumsden, Thomas Minor.  Rcd.  13 Nov 1773."       (Nancy Chappelear and Kate Binford Hatch, ABSTRACTS OF LOUISA COUNTY VIRGINIA WILLS 1743-1801 [Washington, DC:  1964], p. 93) Miscellaneous Note:      VA St Library CS71 B2268 1964  ADAMS EVE compiled & ed. by Francis Stuart Harmon, MA LLB LLD (re Banks-Bruce-Overton fams) p. 5:      On Feb 5, 1806, when he was 27, George Banks (V) married Jemima Ann Overton  (1789-1863) the fourth of the six daus of Rev Army Captain John Overton (IV) of Woodstock and his first wife Susanna Garland Overton (1766-1797).

Thanks, Ira On Apr 14, 2012, at 7:09 PM, EVELYN WALLACE wrote: > Dear Ira, > > I thought it would be a snap to find John W. Harris in the 1930 census in Itawamba Co. MS. Too many Harrises in Ancestry's indexes. > > Maybe you can post a query on this website - which seems to be full of obituaries. Useful for those searching Itawamba Co. > > http://genforum.genealogy.com/ms/itawamba/ > > E.W.Wallace > > > > ________________________________ > From: Ira Harris <barebear@insightbb.com> > To: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 3:54 PM > Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] M. A. Harris, Itawamba County, Mississippi > > Looking for information concerning the parents of John W. Harris (Oct. 30, 1926 - Dec. 24, 1944). > John W. Harris is buried in James Creek Cemetery, Itawamba County, Mississippi. > On his tombstone it says he is the son of Mr & Mrs M. A. Harris. > > Can anyone tell me who Mr. & Mrs. M. A. Harris were? > Who were the parents of the above couple? > > Any information is appreciated. > Please respond through HH so that others may be helped. > > Ira L. Harris III > Group 6, Harris DNA Family Study > Line of Robert Harris of Ware Creek, New Kent County, Virginia > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

With the hope that others will build on this research to find out more of the Overton family who intermarried with colonial Harrises in Virginia, I am sharing my long-ago notes.  These URLs may no longer be valid.  There seems to have been anothe colonial Overton family in the Northern Neck of Virginia--and not along the Pamunkey River. E.W.Wallace http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapittsy/Overtongen.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~vahanove/cemetery/cemtry031.htm 1/02 9/97      TEMPERANCE OVERTON.  WIR00047.  (1679 -1710)  Dates are open to question based on other information given below.    The list of her children may be incomplete.  One Jemima Harris is reported, but not proved, to have been one of the children.  Refer to biographies of other Overton children.      The International Genealogical Index of May 1988 shows in four places that the parents of Temperance Overton were William Overton and Mary (Elizabeth) Waters and that she was born (not christened) 2 March 1679 in New Kent Co., VA.  New Kent Co. was the parent county of Hanover Co., the acknowledged residence of the Harris-Overton families.  Films containing this information have not been researched.  Reportedly the dates are taken from the tombstone of Temperance Harris, which has now disintegrated, according to Dr. Ben Harris, Glenarm, MD, ltr ca 1996.  Harris is a  direct descendant of the Harris family.      Two entries say Hanover Co. was birthplace of Temperance Overton, which is probably incorrect since Hanover was not formed until 1720.  Two entries show New Kent Co., parent county of Hanover, was her birthplace, and this is more probable.    In Vol. 7 of the Lineage Book of the Daughters of the American Colonists, p, 271, the dates given for Temperance Overton, wife of William Harris are 1679-1716)  No documentation is presented.  (Lineage of Mrs. Virginia Field Walton Brooks, born in Jonesboro, Arkansas.)      Tradition is that William Overton, her father, was an officer under Cromwell but was imprisoned at the Tower of London. Old history books of England tell us that an Overton was so imprisoned.  Whether this person was the father of Temperance Overton has not been determined.  It is uncertain whether Overton was executed or whether he escaped from prison.  Francis Stuart Harmon in ADAM'S EVES believes it was William's father (Temperance's grandfather), Robert Overton, a "Roundhead" Major General, who was in Cromwell's army.  Refer to the biography of William Overton I.      The June 1714 Virginia Land Patent Book (Patent Bk 10, p. 132) of Charles Fleming, Henrico Co., lists among the 29 persons he claims to have imported one Temperance Harris.  This would indicate she, Temperance Harris, may have married Harris in England (or Wales, as some maintain Harris was Welsh).  One should bear in mind, however, that much fraud occurred in the patenting of these Virginia lands.       Tradition, cited by Malcolm Hart Harris, M.D., quoting William Pope Anderson, THE EARLY DESCENDANTS OF WM. OVERTON AND ELIZABETH WATERS OF VIRGINIA, AND ALLIED FAMILIES, p. 54, is that Temperance Overton married William Harris on the deck of the ship in which she came on 24 Nov. 1670 at Yorktown.  ("Major Robert Harris of New Kent Co., THE VIRGINIA GENEALOGIST, V. ..., p. 195 ff.)      The following records at the Land Office of Virginia verify that some Overtons were in Virginia beginning ca. 1663. Several of these entries pertain to transactions of William Overton.      1.  21 Aug 1663 - Overton, Francis & Charlton, Wm., 410 A on the S. side of the Rappahannock --- backing land of David Fox.  Patent No. 5, p. 459. (This seems to pertain to an Overton family located later in Northern Neck Virginia.)      2.  18 Mar 1663/4 - Overton, Roger & Lary, John, [old] Rappahannock Co., 18 Mar 1663/4, 100 A Begin & c on Swamp ground under the hills side & adjoining to a parcel of land formerly belonging to James Ganall & now in possession of Overton & Lary [patent omitted in error].      Whether these Overtons in Northern Neck Virginia are related to those in Tidewater Virginia is open to question.  The Pamunkey River, a tributary of the North Anna River, is a *marker* for this particular Overton family of early Virginia days.      3.  23 Apl 1681 - Overton, Wm. & Jones, Evan - New Kent Co., 4,600 A on freshes --- so. side of Pamunky River, Patent 7, p. 78.        See CAVALIERS & PIONEERS, V. II, pp. 218-19; Overton & Jones transported 92 persons, including Elizabeth Overton and several persons named Jones, probably all relatives.   This person is more probably the father of Temperance Overton.      4.  23 Oct 1690 - Overton, Wm. & Lydall, John - New Kent Co. (to be equally divided between them) - 837 A. above the main fork of Pamunkey R. next above a dividend of land granted Jonathan Newell & Ambros. Clara late in the tenure of Samuel Ousteen [Overton?], Patent 8, p. 121.   (Refer to Nell Marion Nugent, Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol 2,p. 357) (One Lawrence Bathurst, on 28 Apr 1691, patented 5000 acs. in New Kent Co., S. side of Pamunky Riv. on a br of Crump's Cr.  It had been deserted and was now granted, seemingly again in 1691, for transport of 10 persons, only a few named in  abstracted patent.   Pat. Bk 8, p. 135.  Refer to Nell Marion Nugent, Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol. 2, p. 359) Hanover Co. was formed 1721 from New Kent Co.  New Kent Co. was formed 1654 from York Co. and later James City County.  Most records were destroyed by fires in 1787 and in 1865.      5.  20 Feb 1723 - Overton, James - Hanover Co. - 400 A. on the N. side the S. fork of Elk Crk. Patent 11, p. 323. (1)      6.  7 Jan 1725 - Overton, Wm. (son of Saml) Hanover Co. - 400 A on both sides the South & North fork of Elk Creek adjoining John Ragland's line.  Patent 12, p. 335      In St. Paul's Vestry Book, Hanover Co., VA, not only do we find William Harris, church warden in 1722, but also "Mr. James Overton," was admitted as vestryman the same year.  Later there is reference to lands of Samuel Overton and James Overton.     Some later Overtons are found in Hanover Co.  Land Book of 1782, St. Martin's Parish gives these names:      Col. Sam Overton's 1428 A was put at 20 [pds] = 14.5.7      Wm. Overton's 1096 A was put at 20 [pds] = 14.5.7      (Rosewell Page, HANOVER COUNTY, ITS HISTORY & LEGENDS, privately publ. 1926; William & Mary College, Swem Library F232 H3P13) .........       Overton Harris 1080 A was put at 16 [pds] = 8.12.0.  (He most probably is NOT our ancestor of the same name, who died testate in Madison Co., KY in 1827.)      Temperance Overton Harris is said to have been the mother of thirteen children, but there is much disagreement about the names of these children and the number.  Refer to Virginia Armistead Nelson, "Genealogical Notes on Keziah Harris Nelson Who Lived in Hanover County, Virginia, in the 18th Century," in GENEALOGIES OF VIRGINIA FAMILIES, VOLUME II, p. 756 ff. (1)  Reference is made to Elk Creek and to Overton's land in one of the few remaining colonial deeds of Hanover Co.: ca 1734: p 63-64  Deed of Gift  I Thomas Carr of St. Margretts Par., Caroline Co., Gent. for Natural love and affection I bare my well beloved son John Carr; 1,000 acres in Hanover Co on both sides the north fork of Elk Creek on both sides Tunifors Lowground Swamp and on south side rhe North Anna as per pattent granted to me then of King William Co. bearing date 17 August 1725...John Ragland's corner on the river bank along Ragland's line...Raglands and James Overtons corner...on both sides the north fork of Elk Creek.                                                  /s/ Thos Carr Wit:  Wm. Mackgehee, Wm. Carr, John Sith 7 June 1734 ack. by Thomas Carr Gent.