Hi listmates! I'm new to this list and don't know if a whole lot isn't being posted right now, or if I'm missing posts. But, I thought I would post what I have and hope that someone else is researching the same family and has more information. My grandfather, Thomas HARPER, left Wales, date unknown, but after a "row" with his father, which, I have learned from newly discovered relatives in Wales, is still talked about! At least I now know where my father's temper, and, (ahem..) mine comes from. I traced his birth to Monmouthshire, Wales through the FHC records, and discovered there were 16 children born to my great grandparents. As far as I can tell, only two of them left Wales--Thomas and Godfrey. I have been able to trace Godfrey's family to British Columbia, Canada, and now have lots of information on his descendants. So, here we go: Thomas HARPUR. m Elisabeth (last name unknown) Children of Thomas HARPUR and Elisabeth are: i. Samuel HARPER. ii. Thomas HARPER, b. 1779, bap. January 1, 1780, Rushbury, Herefordshire iii. Sam HARPER, d. March 1782; bap. February 3, 1782, Rushbury; buried March 30, 1782 "Sam Harper" Parish of Rushbury (spelling of name in church record is different from parents!). Generation No. 2 Samuel HARPER, m. Elizabeth. Child of Samuel HARPER and Elizabeth is: i. Thomas HARPER, b. December 14, 1831, Llangarron, Ross, Hereford, Wales; d. March 31, 1898, Tristwan, Llangibby; Buried in Llangibby Churchyard. Generation No. 3 Thomas HARPER, b. December 14, 1831 in Llangarron, Ross, Hereford, Wales, and died March 31, 1898 in Tristwan, Llangibby; Buried in Llangibby Churchyard. He married Elizabeth MORGAN November 23, 1862 in St. Paul's Church, Newport, Monmouth, Wales, daughter of George MORGAN and Elizabeth MORGAN. (1881 Census Index for Monmouthshire County, Wales, for Thomas Harper, shows him as a farmer, age 48; wife Elizabeth, age 38, and with the following children: Matilda (18), Mary Jane (14), Agnes Elizabeth (12), Thomas (10), Morgan William (8), Louisa Ann (6) , and Samuel George (2).) The death certificate for Thomas Harper lists the cause of death as pneumonia; and the person who provided the information was F. Price, son-in-law (Francis F. Price, husband of Mary Jane). He is buried in St. Cybi. Llangibby Churchyard. Thomas Harper and Elizabeth Morgan were married in the Parish church, St. Paul, Newport, in the County of Monmouth on November 23, 1862. The witnesses were Joseph Jenkins and Matilda Morgan. Children of Thomas HARPER and Elizabeth MORGAN are: i. Matilda HARPER, b. 1863; m. Bill PRICE. Matilda HARPER: Listed as born in the 1st Quarter of 1863, according to birth record; District - Vol. 11a; page 156; June 26, 1863, Christened, Llandevaud, Wales ii. Elizabeth HARPER, b. 1864; May 23, 1864, Christened, Kemeys Inferior, Monmouth, Wales iii. Alfred HARPER, b. 1865; Listed as born in the third quarter of 1865; July 16, 1865; July 16, 1865, Christened, Kemeys Inferior, Monmouth, Wales iv. Mary Jane HARPER, b. 1867; d. February 03, 1932, Buried in Llangibby Churchyard. v. Agnes Elizabeth HARPER, b. 1868. vi. John HARPER, b. 1869; July 04, 1869, Christened, Kemeys Inferior, Monmouth, Wales vii. Thomas HARPER, b. May 08, 1871, Mill Farm, Kemys Inferior, Monmouth, Wales; d. April 05, 1947, Dolton, Illinois. viii. Morgan William HARPER, b. 1873; d. 1943. ix. Alice Maud HARPER, b. 1874; July 12, 1874, Christened,Llandevaud, Monmouth, Wales x. Robert Edward HARPER, b. 1874; May 25, 1874, Christened, Kemeys Inferior, Monmouth, Wales Robert Edward and Alice Maud are listed as twins although they were christened at different times and in different places. xi. Louisa Ann, b. 1875; Born 3rd quarter, 1875; listed in 1881 census index; age 6. Never married. xii. Edith HARPER, b. 1876. xiii. Samuel George HARPER, b. 1879. xiv. Richard (Frank) HARPER, b. 1882; d. 1946. Frank Harper never married and farmed the Cwm Farm; he is buried in Llangibby Churchyard. xv. Godfrey Charles HARPER, b. November 05, 1885, Wales; d. December 01, 1964, Chilliwack General Hospital, British Columbia, Canada. xvi. Florence HARPER, b. 1889; d. 1949. Generation No. 4 Mary Jane HARPER was born 1867, February 24, 1867, Christened, Kemeys Inferior, Monmouth, Wales; died February 03, 1932 in Buried in Llangibby Churchyard. She married Francis F. PRICE. Listed as born in the first quarter of 1867; February 24, 1867. Shown in the 1881 Census Index living with her parents, daughter of Thomas Harper; age 14; scholar. Buried in St. Cybi. Llangibby Churchyard. Children of Mary HARPER and Francis PRICE are: i. Gladys PRICE. ii. Ivy Louisa PRICE, b. 1907; d. February 08, 1955. Agnes Elizabeth HARPER born 1868. She married Henry MORGAN. Listed as born in the third quarter of 1868; Listed in the 1881 census index; daughter of Thomas Harper; age 12; scholar. Children of Agnes HARPER and Henry MORGAN are: i. Godfrey MORGAN. ii. Winifred MORGAN. Thomas HARPER born May 08, 1871 in Mill Farm, Kemys Inferior, Monmouth, Wales, and died April 05, 1947 in Dolton, Illinois. He married Otillia A. BEHRENS September 09, 1895 in St. Louis, Jackson County, Missouri. Children of THOMAS HARPER and OTILLIA BEHRENS are: i. Grace Evelyn HARPER, b. November 09, 1896; d. April 1983, Tulsa, OK. ii. Clinton HARPER, b. May 05, 1898, Jerseyville, IL; d. July 05, 1921, Chicago, IL. iii. Pearl HARPER, b. December 01, 1907, Dolton, Illinois; d. April 08, 1998, South Holland, Illinois. iv. Thomas Edison HARPER, b. May 27, 1911, Harvey, Illinois. v. Vivian HARPER, b. November 19, 1912, Dolton, Illinois; d. August 27, 1913. vi. GWENDELYNN HARPER, b. November 24, 1914, Dolton, Illinois d. March 15, 1990, Oak Forest, IL; m. Mr. ADAMSON. Morgan William HARPER born 1873, and died 1943. He married Minnie. Listed as born the first quarter of 1873. Listed in the 1881 Census Index; age 8; scholar; son of Thomas Harper, Hill Farm Kemys. January 12, 1873, Christened, Llandevaud, Monmouth, Wales Children of Morgan HARPER and Minnie are: i. Herbert HARPER, b. 1904. ii. Gwen HARPER, b. 1907; d. 1981. Never married. Edith HARPER born 1876. m. EDWIN WEBB. December 22, 1876, Christened, Kemeys Inferior, Monmouth, Wales Children of Edith HARPER and Edwin WEBB are: i. Peggy WEBB. ii. Joan Ann WEBB Samuel George HARPER, born 1879. He married Ann STEPHENS. Children of Samuel HARPER and Ann STEPHENS are: i. Dorothy HARPER. Dorothy had no children. She took care of her parents and married late in life. ii. Ivor Herbert HARPER, b. Bet. 1907 - 1908; d. February 16, 1918. Buried in St. Cybi, Llangibby Churchyard. Godfrey Charles HARPER born November 05, 1885 in Wales, and died December 01, 1964 in Chilliwack General Hospital, British Columbia, Canada. He married Gladys Maud THOMAS April 21, 1912 in Monmouthshire, Wales. Godfrey Harper worked at Experimental Farm in Agassiz, B.C., Canada until 1946. Children of Godfrey HARPER and Gladys THOMAS are: i. Godfrey Thomas HARPER, b. May 08, 1916, Calgary, Alberta. ii. Betty HARPER, b. 1915; d. 1918. iii. John HARPER, b. 1920; d. 1930. Florence HARPER born 1889, and died 1949. She married John ERNEST. Child of Florence HARPER and John ERNEST is: i. Edmons ERNEST. And I have lots more. All of this plus the rest is shown on my Web site: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/n/e/l/Sylvia-H-Nelson/GENE5-0001.html I would love to hear from you if you are tracking this same HARPER/HARPUR family. I can't get back any farther that the first HARPUR listed above. If you have information, please write. Or, if you need more on what I have, please contact me. Thank you. Sylvia Harper Nelson Bainbridge Island, WA [email protected]