Hi! I am again requesting any info. anyone might have on Seabourn J. Harper or members of his family. According to the book "Carroll Co.Mississippi Estate Records 1840-1869 with Freedmen Apprenticeships" , the will of Seabourne J. Harper lists E.B. Harper(I think this is my Elbert B. Harper) ,B.F. Harper, F.F. Harper, Elizabeth COFFIELD , S.A. Harper and Lucy Harper all as heirs. His will was dated June 1841. ANY info. will be appreciated!! Thanks, Margaret Tullos Tewell.

----- Original Message ----- From: Sheree Robinette <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Harper - Norfolk, Lancaster and MD. > Hello Jeanna. I have a rather elusive Harper family. I have ben told they > were from North Carolina, but I have vbeen lied toi so often about them, it > is hard to day whether it is true. Your messge intrigued me. Do yopu have a > Grover Harper in your line? Any better dates? My grandmother was born > Estelle Harper in Winterville, GA (near Athens) in 1917 to Frank Benjamin > Harper and Leila Chambers. Leila's family was from north Georgis several > generations back, and prior to that they were from South Carolina and even > further back they came to south Carolina from North Carolina. Frank Harper > was to put it as nicely as I can a crook. So were his sons. My grandmother > had an uncle named Grover Harper. Frank Harper married Leila in 1910 in > Athens, GA. They moved quite a bit. He was eventually arrested for 5 counts > of cattle theft in 1947 and died in 1951 in the Georgia State Prison. This > happened before I was born, so no one will taklk about him. I only > discovered this when I requested a death certificate for him from Georgia. > He changed the entire family's surname to Collins. I am told he did it to > avoid being drafted. His son Frank Jr. spent time in prison in Alabama ,. > Not sure of the charges there but I am told it was for stealing cattle. They > were a mean bunch. There was another son named Floyd who escaped from jail > in Alabama, Arkansas, or Florida and lives under an alias in NORFOLK, VA. > The fmaily has no contact with him. I have always been curious why he > selected Norfolk. I assume there were relatives there. He was in the > trucking business and uses the surname Vann. Any of those in your line? I > have no idea where Vann or Collins came from. I have been told that they > also used the surname White. Frank started with the name Harper and used it > in 1910 when he married. In the late 1920's he listed his surname as Collins > on his youngest daughter's birth certificate. He was on the run from the > Georgia (and maybe federal) authorities by the mid 1920'swhen Floyd was > born. Leila returned to Winterville to have her son with her mother acting > as midwife. the very next day she took a train to Arkansas to re join her > husband and family there. The other daughters were Pauline and Mary Ruth. > They married brothers Jack and Robert Duggan. Researchingthis line has been > extremely difficult. Would be happy for any assistance if you find a > connection along the way. I think that Frank's mother was named Naomi. there > was a school; teacher in this line. It sure is tough to sort fact from > fiction. Thnaks for your time > Sheree----- Original Message ----- > From: Jeanna Harper <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 11:31 AM > Subject: Harper - Norfolk, Lancaster and MD. > > > > > Does anyone have any information on Howell Harper son of Vincent and > > > Margaret Harper of Halifax, N.C.? My great great grandfather was > > > Aglernon S. Harper, son of Howell (unknown mother). > > > > > > Algernon S. Harper had several children. Four of his sons went to > > > Virginia. Tom Harper went to Norfolk. He married Ellen Brown. Charles > > > Richard Harper first went to Lancaster County, VA. where he married > > > Julia Iglehart Ball. He moved to Norfolk around 1910. John Frank Harper > > > (my great grandfather) moved to White Chapel District of Lancaster > > > County, VA. around 1880 where he married Dora Lee and then Corella > > > Sampson. In 1914 he moved to Baltimore Maryland. William W. Harper > > > appeared in John Frank Harper's household on the 1880 Lancaster County > > > census. > > > > > > Algernon Harper had another son -James- and three daughter - Mary, > > > Margaret, and Martha. Any help would greatly be appreciated. > > > > > > ==== HARPER Mailing List ==== > > Need list assistance? Please contact: [email protected] > > List Adm for HARPER-L and HARPER-D > > Now with over 420 subscribers! > > > > >

> Does anyone have any information on Howell Harper son of Vincent and > Margaret Harper of Halifax, N.C.? My great great grandfather was > Aglernon S. Harper, son of Howell (unknown mother). > > Algernon S. Harper had several children. Four of his sons went to > Virginia. Tom Harper went to Norfolk. He married Ellen Brown. Charles > Richard Harper first went to Lancaster County, VA. where he married > Julia Iglehart Ball. He moved to Norfolk around 1910. John Frank Harper > (my great grandfather) moved to White Chapel District of Lancaster > County, VA. around 1880 where he married Dora Lee and then Corella > Sampson. In 1914 he moved to Baltimore Maryland. William W. Harper > appeared in John Frank Harper's household on the 1880 Lancaster County > census. > > Algernon Harper had another son -James- and three daughter - Mary, > Margaret, and Martha. Any help would greatly be appreciated.

Does anyone have any information on Howell Harper son of Vincent and > Margaret Harper of Halifax, N.C.? My great great grandfather was > Aglernon S. Harper, son of Vincent.

Hello all, My name is John Stanford. I'm new to the Harper list, and am searching for information on my Harper line. My Great grandfather was William Sanford Harper, born 8/25/1848 in Elbert County, Georgia, died 3/12/1918 in Hamilton, Marion Cty, Alabama. He was married in Hartwell, Georgia to Susan Ellen Bailey on 8/10/1869. His mother was named Sarah A., and I think his grandmother was listed as M.in the 1850 Elbert county census. Another lady named Polly is also listed in the 1870 Hart county census ( may be his g-grandmother ). Brothers and sisters of William are : Bessie Harper-Birth date not known James Weston Harper-b. Abt 1842 John Andy Harper- b. 12-10-1851 d. 6-4-1915 Mary L.Harper- b.1853 Children of William and Susan are; Susan A.- b. 8-9-1872 d. 11-6-1941 -my grandmother John Thomas-b. 8-27-1874 d.3-15-1955 Lou - b. 6-7-1877 d. 3-11-1917 William E.- b. 11-28-1879 d. 10-6-1960 James D- b. 9-10-1881 d. 4-2-1974 Rosie -b. 1883 d.1899 Grover L.- b. 8-2-1885 d. 1-9-1957 George B. - b. 8-12-1888 d. 1-13-1960 Luther L.- b. 2-14-1892 d. 7-13-1934 Ella - b.8-25-1893 d. 6-30-1974 I think the family lived in South Carolina prior to Elbert and Hart County, Georgia. William joined the CSA in Anderson, SC in 1863, and served with the 2nd Regiment South Carolina Rifles . The Harper and Palmer families moved to Northwest Alabama ( Hamilton, Marion County ) in approx. 1900. Susan A. Harper and George William Palmer were my Grandparents. Any help would be appreciated. John Stanford [email protected]

Confederates after the Civil War EXPERT GENEALOGY Editor: Jeannette Holland Austin Series: Civil War Subject: Confederates after the Civil War Date: July 14, 1999 My 2nd great grand-mother, Jane Smith, was married about 1854 to Wesley Clements. They removed from the old plantation home of her father located in Monroe County, Georgia to Muscogee County, where I found them on the 1860 Census with two children. >From there, the life of Wesley Clements is sketchy at best, because he became a soldier in the Confederate Army, and apparently did not survive the war. Upon examining the Muster Rolls, which one needs to do in order to follow the battles or squirmishes, illnesses, whether present in camp, etc., various names are suspect....such as "W" Clements, or "W. C." Clements. If Wesley was one of these individuals who served from Georgia, his activity during the war was short-lived, because there is simply very little on it. With no "Wesley"...he could have even succumbed prior to his first muster. No one in my family ever remembered hearing of him, especially since Jane remarried after the war to Thomas Young Brent. It was the Brent husband who was remembered and adored, because he assumed the responsibility of Jane's father's plantation as well as the rearing of his two Clements step-children. Typically, Jane's father lost all that he had during the war, and during the Reconstruction period his once-thriving planation fell from status to that of a struggling farm. Without labor, the Old South died. The Clement children moved off to Dublin to get work in town. Their lives, like so many, were enveloped in survival. Because Jane remained on her father's farm with her Brent husband running it, stories of their lives were passed down. However, no one remembered the Clement children, or their father. Since Jane re-married, she did not apply for a widow's pension. So, we have nothing there. I assumed that Wesley was killed during the early part of the war. So, how do I find additional information? Here are some places to search: 1. The Confederate Veterans Magazines for obituaries. This magazine was published after the war for a number of years and generally contained articles about the battles, as well as posted obituaries. Also, various Confederate Camps recorded their member-soldier deaths, often with just a name. 2. National Cemeteries. Examining the Muster Rolls, one can usually determine the date soldier was in a certain location, and from there examine the battles or squirmishes which surrounded the area. If he was last mustered near Vicksburg, for example, he might be buried at the Vicksburg National Cemetery. The efforts to bury the Confederate Dead leave us suffering for information. Frequently, soldiers were buried under crosses, or might have their unit or regiment on a tombstone. I have seen nothing but a year on a tombstone. From this, one is reminded of the battle fought in that area, then assumes the death occurred during the several days of the battle. Too, soldiers fell along the way, and were buried in unlikely places. Sometimes, the bodies were re-interred into local Confederate Cemeteries. Thus, the identify of thousands has been lost. 3. Local Cemeteries. If your soldier died in Richmond, Virginia, he still might be brought home for burial. It's worth it to search all the county cemeteries. Another place to search - graveyards of local churches. Soldiers died of common ailments - dysentary, cholera, consumption. Confederate Hospitals were filled with ailing patients. Too, soldiers were sent home on leave during such ailments. There are some existing patient lists at Richmond and Chimporazee Hospitals, for example. To find them, go to a local family history center and look under "Civil War", then "hospitals". To try and help myself on Wesley Clements, and others, I compiled The Confederate Dead Database. This is an alphabetical listing of soldiers which was abstracted from obituaries in the Confederate Veteran Magazine, as well as from National Cemeteries. Also, included are some local Confederate Cemeteries. Information to be found (if applicable) is the soldier's name, spouse, birthdate, deathdate, place, regiment, etc. Of course, the obituaries provide the most data.

Hi Betty, You are a brave soul! I remember when this subject came up on another list. The second Civil War (a friendly one) almost broke out! Since I descend from these folks too, I would like to know the truth also. I personally have not researched Armstead (but other good researchers have-of which you are one) but until info proves otherwise, I will stay with him being the son of James and Agnes BIRCHFIELD Harper. What do you think? As for Jerusha...I have her married to Spencer D. Green with children being: Sarah Elizabeth and Mary J. Can you add to this? I descend through the Harper's on TWO lines. Epperson Nelson and Mary Ann GREEN Harper and Enoch M. and Margaret RHODES Harper. Can other's add to this? TTFN, Brenda Jo On 07/13/99 20:24:55 you wrote: > >Well, now that our blood is pounding in our ears, and maybe our knickers are >untwisted just the tinsiest bit, do you think we're awake enough for it to be a >good time to ask about those ancestors? > >There is some controvery (ok, maybe not as much as "The Poem" stirred up) about >the Armistead Harper/Rachel Bishop union. They were born about 1800-02 in the >Russell co, VA and/or Pike co, KY area. They ended up in Jackson/Roane counties, >WV and had a passel of kids - it could be that truly only God knows for sure how >many. I am really only concerned about the one, Jerusha who was born about 1838. > >Does anyone have any solid source for who Armistead's parents were? Birth >certificates along with fingerprints, photo ID and possibly a DNA sample would >do.Family legends are ok, but no viscious gossip, please. (~_*) > >Thanks, >Betty > > >==== HARPER Mailing List ==== > If you're not already a Rootsweb member, please join with us! >RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > >

As I was reading the responses to the poems, I noticed where Joe has a Anna Harper in his line. I have a Anna Harper, too. She was formerly a Little from Licking Co., OH, but married Mathew Harper in the 2nd half of the last century and moved to Fulton Co., IL. Any connections here? Chuck Watts Wilmington, OH, home of the banana split, 1907 >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: HARPER-D Digest V99 #83 >Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:19:56 -0700 (PDT) > ><< message2.txt >> ><< message4.txt >> ><< message6.txt >> ><< message8.txt >> ><< message10.txt >> ><< message12.txt >> ><< message14.txt >> ><< message16.txt >> ><< message18.txt >> _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

Well, now that our blood is pounding in our ears, and maybe our knickers are untwisted just the tinsiest bit, do you think we're awake enough for it to be a good time to ask about those ancestors? There is some controvery (ok, maybe not as much as "The Poem" stirred up) about the Armistead Harper/Rachel Bishop union. They were born about 1800-02 in the Russell co, VA and/or Pike co, KY area. They ended up in Jackson/Roane counties, WV and had a passel of kids - it could be that truly only God knows for sure how many. I am really only concerned about the one, Jerusha who was born about 1838. Does anyone have any solid source for who Armistead's parents were? Birth certificates along with fingerprints, photo ID and possibly a DNA sample would do.Family legends are ok, but no viscious gossip, please. (~_*) Thanks, Betty

I recently wrote to a library in Washington County Maryland asking for any info on my HARPER ancestors. The very kind librarian sent me copies of HARPERS from various Marriage Books. I don't see any of my ancestors , but maybe this info can help someone else so here it goes! MARYLAND MARRIAGES 1634-1777 Compiled by Robert Barnes Harper, Edward 4 April 1682, Lydia Hudson (Huttson) Somerset Co. Harper, John, Nov. 1740, Mary Weithers Cecil Co. Harper, John, 12 Dec. 1717, Anne Crawley Anne Arundel Co. Harper, John, 1 Jan. 1760, Catheron Addams Somerset Co. Harper Samuel, 27, Dec. 1744 Sarah MacCraree Baltimore Co. Harper, Thomas, 9, Oct. 1748, Mary Hawke Queen Ann Co. Harper, Thos, 19 June 1759, Mary Shields Baltimore Co. WASHINGTON COUNTY MARRIAGES 1799-1860 by Traces HARPER Jc./ to Mary Fisher 7/24/02 Jm./ to Sr. Bean 12/22/08 Jm./ to Eliz. Smith 6/7/10 Abr./ to Char. K. Pennell 2/17/25 Jm./ to Reb. Youtz 1/26/27 Jc. F./ to Eliz. Leggett 11/7/35 Jm./ to Ellen Harper 1/24/39 Chas. N./to Cath. Shaneberger 3/12/59 My thinking of these abreviations is Jc.= Jacob , Jm.= James, Abr.= Abraham , Chas= Charles, Sr.= Sarah MARRIAGE LICENSES of FREDERICK COUNTY 1811-1840 by Margaret Myers Harper, Emily(Negro) to Stewart, John(Negro)- Mar. 14, 1836 Harper, George to Marlow, Cornelia M.- Nov. 21, 1831 Harper, Jane to Coursey, Wesley B.- Sept. 30, 1833 Harper, Juliett to Mc Pherson, Amos- July 27, 1831 Harper, Levina to Pickins, Jacob- Jan. 4, 1827 Harper, Lloyd to Scaggs, Elizabeth Ann- Dec. 31, 1822 Harper, Mary to Cross, Joseph- March 6, 1835 Harper, Mary Anne Margaret to Murphy Wm.- May 20, 1828 Harper, Rhoda to Purdyd, Singelton- Apr. 15, 1826 Harper, Richard to Keller, Sophia- April, 28, 1834 Harper, Thomas to Miller, Sarah- Sept. 26, 1811 Harper, William to Shawen, Ann- May 4, 1833 Judy Woehrle [email protected]

ME TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love Ya James Gang!!!

I've never seen the like of so much controversy over a poem........why don't you folks learn to sit back and relax! Glad my Harper ancestors didn't pass on as much aggression as ya'll seem to have. Have a seat on the verandah and smell the roses sometime. Glenda Harper

Would someone please send me(privately) a copy of the poem sent by sunrise - I accidentally deleted it. Thanks, Charmaine Riley Holley [email protected]

Gosh, I personally like the poem very much! In addition to liking it, I also found that it did two things.... #1 it dealt with genealogy (as to wart removal, yellow waxing build-up, etc) and #2 it was a nice brief break from the usual messages. Please...no flames. Just sharing my thoughts. Brenda Jo On 07/12/99 16:37:08 you wrote: > >Craig--Apparently a member of the list was offended by >the poem I submitted to the list & I would appreciate your >feedback. I felt it was relevant to genealogy. The message >I received is as follows: > >>>Your distribution of poetry on a genealogical mail list is an >egregious >mis-use of the mail list. I hope the list owner kicks you off the >list. >Please go back and read the rules regarding staying on-topic with your >postings. This information can be found in the welcome message you >received >when you signed up for the list.<< > >Ms. Sid 8-) >[email protected] > > > >==== HARPER Mailing List ==== > If you're not already a Rootsweb member, please join with us! >RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > >

I also enjoyed the poem and in fact forwarded it to a cousin who is researching another branch of my family. Thank You for sharing this lovely poem.

Ditto!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 10:15 PM Subject: Re: Poem > I thought the poem you sent was absolutely beautiful and appropriate for a > genealogy site. I truly enjoyed it. > > > ==== HARPER Mailing List ==== > Aren't you glad you're a supporter of Rootsweb? > Don't we wish everyone could be one too! > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

Dear Ms. Sid, I re-read your poem and then I re-read Craig's Welcome Message and tried to see if I could feel offended by the distance that you might have been "off-topic". I failed miserably. I have been on other lists (and still am) where silly chit-chat abounds -- including *many* messages that are purely personal, meant for one person, but are heaped on all subscribers. Even though your poem was not about our HARPER parents, (g*)-grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins, specifically, it surely elicited a nod, a smile, and maybe a lump in the throat to the geneological spirit in each of us. You pleased many and may have displeased one person and maybe a few more, but my great-grandmother, Anna HARPER, would probably have said, "There's room on the front porch for a little bickerin' among the cousins. They'll make up soon enough." Best regards, Joe |8-<) p.s. One thing that comes through loud and clear from Craig's Welcome Message is that the bickerin' should be minimized. Of my cousins that I know, I don't have one that I don't like, and I assume that the same odds apply to the ones that I don't know yet. On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Ms. Sid Sorenson wrote: > Craig--Apparently a member of the list was offended by > the poem I submitted to the list & I would appreciate your > feedback. I felt it was relevant to genealogy. The message > I received is as follows: > > >>Your distribution of poetry on a genealogical mail list is an > egregious > mis-use of the mail list. I hope the list owner kicks you off the > list. > Please go back and read the rules regarding staying on-topic with your > postings. This information can be found in the welcome message you > received > when you signed up for the list.<< > > Ms. Sid 8-) > [email protected] > > > > ==== HARPER Mailing List ==== > If you're not already a Rootsweb member, please join with us! > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

Re : Poem Thanks forwarding the poem on pictures. I printed it of and placed it in my album of old pictures. It really hit home with me , I wish more people valued old pictures and treated them like the treasures they are. Lisa

Thanks for the poem. I am past president of my local genealogy society. We often publish poems such as this one for our members. It reminds us of why we are spending so much time researching our ancestors and this poem brings a smile to my face and a joy to my heart. I will submit it my newsletter editor. Apparently some people are "Strangers in the Box". Thanks again. Ed Glover

I thought the poem you sent was absolutely beautiful and appropriate for a genealogy site. I truly enjoyed it.