Dear John and Harkey list, My terrier tenacity won't let me give up on your query, but you have made it hard for old brains such as mine by including, for example, note numbers (without the notes) but *not* including complete census entries. I think most if not all of your questions can be answered by comparing the 1850 census with the 1860 census. If you have any or all of the HARKEY census entries for 1860 NC, it would be a great help if you would post them to the list. If you don't have all of them, could you post in their entirety the ones you referred to? I think these are the questions you asked and my tentative answers, with their own questions: YOUR FIRST QUESTION(S) <<In 1850 census for Rowan Co, NC. In 1860 census for Rockville PO, Rowan Co, Nc. HH # 737. p. 508. In same household were Catherine Harkey 31 NC, Paul R. Harkey 17 NC, and Wm. Kanup Harkey 11NC. 1. Are these 2 boys sons or grandsons of Henry? 2. Is Catherine a wife or daughter? >> MY FIRST ANSWERS 1(a - re Wm. Kanup HARKEY) Does the census actually say that Wm. Kanup's last name is HARKEY? Until I see the 1860 census entry, I'll put my money on his name being William KANUP. (KANUP may originally been KNUPP, KNUPF, or KNOPF.) Who, you might ask, is William KANUP? Well, in the 1850 Rowan Co. census, a CANUP family (with a William of the right age) lives five households away from Paul and Leana HARKEY, and I think it could be the same boy: 1850 NC Rowan Co. School Dist 43 p 114, hh 42-43 CANUP, William 47 --Nancy 42 --Minta? 18 --Daniel 16 --Nancy 15 --Joice? 10 --Caleb 5 --William 11/12 1850 NC Rowan Co. SchDist 43 p 114, hh 47-48 HARKEY, PAUL 46 NC --Leana 33 NC --Sally 16 --George W. 12 --Robert W. 10 NC --Casander 8 NC --Richard 7 NC --Jackson 5 NC --Henery 1 NC 1(b - re Paul R. HARKEY) Since Paul R. is 17 in the 1860 census, he would be abt 7 in the 1850 census. There is such a boy in 1850; he is the son of Jacob and Lavinia HARKEY: 1850 NC Rowan Co. SchDist 44 p 122, hh 187-191 HARKEY, JACOB 30 NC farmer $175 --Lavinia 32 NC --Paul R. 7 NC --Margaret E. 4 NC Because you didn't provide Henry's age in 1860, it's impossible to say for sure, but it looks to me as if the Paul R. in any 1860 household would probably be Jacob's son and, therefore, Henry's grandchild. By the way, this is Henry and Barbara (Miller) HARKEY's household in 1850: 1850 NC Rowan Co. SchDist 44 p 12), hh 184-188 HARKEY, HENRY 55 farmer $480 --Barbara 45 NC --John 23 NC farmer $175 --Margaret 21 NC $175 --Daniel 19 NC labourer 2. (Is Catherine wife or daughter?) Again, without Henry's age in 1860 or a complete list of the household members, it's hard to say, but one Henry did marry a Catherine: Henry HARKEY m Catharine EARNHEART 27 Mar 1857 Rowan Co NC If there is no other Henry in the 1860 Rowan Co. NC census, I'd guess that Barbara died and Henry again married, this time to Catharine EARNHEART. YOUR SECOND QUESTION <<In 1860 census for Rockville PO, Rowan Co, NC. HH # 739. p. 509. Also in household was Elizabeth Harkey age 14. Was she Daniel's sister?>> MY SECOND ANSWER Again, this is a tough question to answer without seeing who else is Daniel's household and what their ages are. However, I searched the 1850 census for a 4-year-old Elizabeth. I found a strong possibility, although her birth name appears, not the name she probably went by: 1850 NC Rowan Co. SchDist 44 122, hh 187-191 HARKEY, JACOB 30 NC farmer $175 --Lavinia 32 NC --Paul R. 7 NC --Margaret E. 4 NC If Margaret E. is Elizabeth, and if she is the daughter of Jacob and Lavinia HARKEY, then it would appear likely that Elizabeth is Daniel's niece. But that guess leaves lots of room for error. At this point, I have farmed out Jacob and Lavinia's children to relatives--Paul R. to grandfather Henry and Margaret E. to uncle Daniel. Did Jacob die before 1860? Is he in the 1860 census? Or is Liddie/Lydia in the 1860 census as a widow? (By the way, you don't seem to have Daniel's marriage information. Here is what I have: Daniel HARKEY married Liddy PEARCE 12 Jan 1859 Rowan Co. NC.) To conclude another seemingly endless email, we need the 1860 census! Alma
Alma - I have access to the 1860 census for NC. Tell me where to look and for whom and I'll get back with the results. John ----- Original Message ----- From: <Junco9@aol.com> To: <HARKEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [HARKEY-L] Harkeys in Rowan Co, NC > Dear John and Harkey list, > > My terrier tenacity won't let me give up on your query, but you have made it > hard for old brains such as mine by including, for example, note numbers > (without the notes) but *not* including complete census entries. > > I think most if not all of your questions can be answered by comparing the > 1850 census with the 1860 census. If you have any or all of the HARKEY census > entries for 1860 NC, it would be a great help if you would post them to the > list. If you don't have all of them, could you post in their entirety the > ones you referred to? > > I think these are the questions you asked and my tentative answers, with > their own questions: > > YOUR FIRST QUESTION(S) > > <<In 1850 census for Rowan Co, NC. In 1860 census for Rockville PO, Rowan > Co, Nc. HH # 737. p. 508. In same household were Catherine Harkey 31 NC, Paul > R. Harkey 17 NC, and Wm. Kanup Harkey 11NC. > 1. Are these 2 boys sons or grandsons of Henry? > 2. Is Catherine a wife or daughter? >> > > MY FIRST ANSWERS > > 1(a - re Wm. Kanup HARKEY) Does the census actually say that Wm. Kanup's > last name is HARKEY? Until I see the 1860 census entry, I'll put my money > on his name being William KANUP. (KANUP may originally been KNUPP, KNUPF, or > KNOPF.) Who, you might ask, is William KANUP? Well, in the 1850 Rowan Co. > census, a CANUP family (with a William of the right age) lives five > households away from Paul and Leana HARKEY, and I think it could be the same > boy: > > 1850 NC Rowan Co. School Dist 43 p 114, hh 42-43 > CANUP, William 47 > --Nancy 42 > --Minta? 18 > --Daniel 16 > --Nancy 15 > --Joice? 10 > --Caleb 5 > --William 11/12 > > 1850 NC Rowan Co. SchDist 43 p 114, hh 47-48 > HARKEY, PAUL 46 NC > --Leana 33 NC > --Sally 16 > --George W. 12 > --Robert W. 10 NC > --Casander 8 NC > --Richard 7 NC > --Jackson 5 NC > --Henery 1 NC > > 1(b - re Paul R. HARKEY) Since Paul R. is 17 in the 1860 census, he would be > abt 7 in the 1850 census. There is such a boy in 1850; he is the son of Jacob > and Lavinia HARKEY: > > 1850 NC Rowan Co. SchDist 44 p 122, hh 187-191 > HARKEY, JACOB 30 NC farmer $175 > --Lavinia 32 NC > --Paul R. 7 NC > --Margaret E. 4 NC > > Because you didn't provide Henry's age in 1860, it's impossible to say for > sure, but it looks to me as if the Paul R. in any 1860 household would > probably be Jacob's son and, therefore, Henry's grandchild. > > By the way, this is Henry and Barbara (Miller) HARKEY's household in 1850: > > 1850 NC Rowan Co. SchDist 44 p 12), hh 184-188 > HARKEY, HENRY 55 farmer $480 > --Barbara 45 NC > --John 23 NC farmer $175 > --Margaret 21 NC $175 > --Daniel 19 NC labourer > > 2. (Is Catherine wife or daughter?) Again, without Henry's age in 1860 or a > complete list of the household members, it's hard to say, but one Henry did > marry a Catherine: > > Henry HARKEY m Catharine EARNHEART 27 Mar 1857 Rowan Co NC > > If there is no other Henry in the 1860 Rowan Co. NC census, I'd guess that > Barbara died and Henry again married, this time to Catharine EARNHEART. > > YOUR SECOND QUESTION > > <<In 1860 census for Rockville PO, Rowan Co, NC. HH # 739. p. 509. Also in > household was Elizabeth Harkey age 14. Was she Daniel's sister?>> > > MY SECOND ANSWER > > Again, this is a tough question to answer without seeing who else is Daniel's > household and what their ages are. However, I searched the 1850 census for a > 4-year-old Elizabeth. I found a strong possibility, although her birth name > appears, not the name she probably went by: > > 1850 NC Rowan Co. SchDist 44 122, hh 187-191 > HARKEY, JACOB 30 NC farmer $175 > --Lavinia 32 NC > --Paul R. 7 NC > --Margaret E. 4 NC > > If Margaret E. is Elizabeth, and if she is the daughter of Jacob and Lavinia > HARKEY, then it would appear likely that Elizabeth is Daniel's niece. But > that guess leaves lots of room for error. > > At this point, I have farmed out Jacob and Lavinia's children to > relatives--Paul R. to grandfather Henry and Margaret E. to uncle Daniel. Did > Jacob die before 1860? Is he in the 1860 census? Or is Liddie/Lydia in the > 1860 census as a widow? > > (By the way, you don't seem to have Daniel's marriage information. Here is > what I have: > > Daniel HARKEY married Liddy PEARCE 12 Jan 1859 Rowan Co. NC.) > > To conclude another seemingly endless email, we need the 1860 census! > > Alma > > > ==== HARKEY Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Harkey list send the word Unsubscribe in a blank > email addressed to HARKEY-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >