Alma and All. We still have lots to sort out on the early Harkeys. Even on those baptismal records the name Herche is spelled several ways. Herche--Herch-Herger As for the p. 93 record of Martin, b 27 Feb 1797, s/o Louis Herches, wife Elizabeth. Sponsor: John Herche. Daniel b 13 Nov. 1797, s/o John Herche and Elizabeth sponsors" Louis Herdes(Hartis) wife Elizabeth. I find one Daniel born in 1852 one in 1824 one in 1819 one 1797 I don't see a Martin born in 1797 Therefore this old lady assumes that I do not have Louis Herches or his wife Elizabeth. At least not in the Martin line, I also do not see it in the David line. Now Martin Harkey and Catherine Barringer did have a daughter Elizabeth. I have her married to John Shoe. Could she have had a first marriage to Louis ??? What we ae going to have to do is look for that elusive brother JOHN son of Johannes Herche. Any Ideas. ??Mary Russell [email protected]