Kay I think it was you sent me the" Boersma" papers listing Martin Harkey no wife and son John Harkey who married Elisabeth Doub. This John had a son John who married Sarah Walcher. I am very confused as to why people do not think that the Martin above was not our Martin who married Catherine Barringer. He had a son John b. 1765 who married an Elizabeth and they had a son John who married and we didn't have the name of his wife. Martin's son John left a will in NC. John's children scattered. His son Solomon/Sophia Cress, settled in Illinois. Martin Luther/Catherine Conder to Texas. Daniel David/ Mary Elizabeth Bankston or Mgt Thompson to Dunklin Co. Mo. Peter/ Peggy Drew stayed in NC I feel pretty dumb about all these Johns but this Martin with son John with son John seems too good a match. I must be missing something. Mary Russell [email protected] listowner [email protected]