At 11:23 PM 9/13/97 -0500, you wrote: >Kay and List members---- >I have been reading the papers Kay sent to me trying to figure out some >things. >You say that your John Harkey was born April 1789 and at age 6 was >orphaned. >He went to live with Jonas Lipe and his wife Christina Meisenheimer. >I know this couple as they are in my Lipe genealogy . I do not know who >Christina's parents were and at this time I have NO marriages between >Harkey, Lipe or Meisenheimer in any of my files. Kays information said >that This > that She ( Christina) was his aunt. That would mean that either his >father or mother was her sibling. Since I have no Harkey marriages to Lipe >at this time. >That would mean (maybe) that Christine Meisenheimer was his mothers sister, >which would mean that his mother was a Meisenheimer and we have the >Kay's papers state that his Mother was Elizabeth Daub. So we are up the >creek. --------- Someone help with my thinking on this. I've never been >logical. >Next. Kay's information said that John who married Sarah Walcher had >parents who were John Harkey who married Elizabeth Daub. >I have John Harkey who was a son of Old Martin 1746 and I have this John >Harkey married to an Elizabeth but didn't have her last name. >The only problem is ---------Birth dates are wrong but not off by much >I have Martin 1746> John 1765> John 1796 I don't have any children in >my files for this last John. QUESTION Kay is this last John --your John >with the wrong birth date? If not--Why not? >Jonas Lipe/Christina Meisenheimer also had a second wife Christina >Huber/Hoover. I don't know about >Johas Lipes brother was John G. Lipe who married Barbara House the parents >of Julia Ann Lipe who was my GGgrandmother.Married to Levi Harkey. >The Lipes were originally from Switzerland as I suspect out Harkey's were >too. > > >Hello List members and Mary, First the papaers I sent to Mary are really from Nancy Broersma. She has transcribed the personal memriors of Sidney levi Harkey and journal material from scrapbooks. They are delightful material for a genealogist to uncover. This isn't my direct HARKEY line and I have not been able to unravel the facts yet. The significance of these papers is that Joseph Harkey and others have had trouble finding the correct connection for JOHN father of Sidney. This information is another study aid to possibly find a link. I was particularly interested that the personal history says Switzerland was the origin of this family. Also, it appears that the writer might have gotten confused on the names of ancestors. I hope Nancy has become a list member as she might have further transcription since our contact that will shed additional light on the situation. The JOHN in these papers does appear to be the orphan boy raised by Jonas Lipe, yet we still have no true proof to tie it all together. All of this says that the early history of the HARKEY family before NC isn't a clear picture. I still wonder if the old belief that all of the Harkeys are from the Lydia immigrant might be incorrect and there are families from other immigrants who ended up spelling their name Harkey and maybe are related, not necessarily siblings, but more distant even at the onset. Hopr this isn't too confusing. I only passed on material and have no proof for this material. I'm the offshoot Of Jesse who took his family to KY after Civil War time and I've yet to find a person who came from this line, with one exception, unless they are from my direct line. Happy Sunday Kay Go Gators! Steve "GATOR" Wood "The Ball is Shaped to be Thrown" [email protected] "Pressure is the Best Defense"