Hello to all and to Mary and Judy, I don't normally say anything on the discussion list but I wanted to let you know what I have about William Riley Harkey. I have a Pope County Cemetary Book and it has in it the following: WR Harkey Co D Ark Inf (no dates) Mary Ethel Jackson b. 23 Sep 1846 d. 19 Sep 1881 Andrew Harkey b. 6 Sep 1869 d. 15 Feb 1932 (a son) Berry D Harkey b. 21 Oct 1885 b. 15 Jul 1929 (another son) the sons are from different marriages, I will check and see which is which, I forgot to do that before I logged on. All four of the above are buried at Haskins Cemetary in Pope County Arkansas. I have a birth date for Mary Moore of abt 1851 no death date and a marriage date for Mary Moore and WR Harkey as 14 May 1882. The marriage date for Mary Ethel and WR is 19 oct 1865. I will be happy to look up others if you wish. However, remember that people copied these and wrote them down and I have found a couple of errors but only a couple and on the whole they have been accurate. To Tim Q -- I have been trying to get the Talkingtons in order, do you have children for them? I have a few that I have found on census and a few from my Cemetary book. Would you mind helping me with that line? It is not mine but I am interested. Thanks Terri

Mary, I don't think your message ("Another Martin Harkey?") included a e-mail address for John Speight, the man who sent you the query. By all means, he should join the HARKEY list and post his descendants! Would you please forward this to him? Anyway, he seems to be asking about the HARKEYs whom I found listed in the 1850 Stanly Co. census: 1850 NC Stanly hh 334 SOLOMON HARKEY, 22, b 1828 ($30 prop) EASTIN, 20, b 1830 1850 NC Stanly hh 395 MARTIN HARKEE, 50, b 1800 ($370 prop) JUDITH, 47, b 1803 That being the case, the parents of his Martin may be Jacob HARKEY ("Old" Martin > John > Jacob) and Catherine TETER, according to Joseph Harkey's information: 3. Jacob Harkey, b 28 Nov 1768, l. Buffalo Creek 1809; d 14 Jul 1847, Cabarrus Co. NC; m Catherine TETER (Teater), b 29 Sep 1774, d 31 Jul 1842 Cabarrus NC. 1. Elizabeth Harkey, b 12 Sep 1795, d 6 Mar 1866; m ... EUDY. [[m John Eudie 24 Sep 1830 Cabarrus-CD]] 2. Matthias Harkey, b 9 Jun 1797, d 3 Mar 1876 Harkeyville, San Saba Co. TX; m Catherine FURR, b 9 Oct 1801, d 20 Feb 1895. Note: In 1850 census, Matthias & Catherine are in Yell Co. AR. Didn't leave NC until aft 1843. 3. Sarah Harkey, b 31 Aug 1799 Cabarrus NC. [[ m David OUDY 7 May 1821 Cabarrus-CD]] 4. Levi Harkey, b 10 Nov 1801, d 24 Feb 1850 Yell Co. AR; m (1827) Julia Ann LIPE, Cabarrus NC. [[m 27 Oct 1827-CD]] Note: Evidently (from 1850 Yell Co. census, showing Julia as a widow and all their children b NC), Levi & Julia didn't leave NC until 1848 or 1849 and he died soon after arriving in Yell Co. 5. Martin Harkey; m (1823) Jude BOWERS Cabarrus NC. [[m 28 Jul 1823-CD]] 6. Jacob Harkey, Jr., b 22 Jul 1804, d 18 Aug 1842 Cabarrus NC; m (1829) Esther SIDES, Cabarrus NC. [[m 9 Mar 1829-CD]] 7. Polly Harkey, m (1830) Abraham DRY, Cabarrus NC. [[m 27 Feb 1830-CD]] 8. Eli Harkey, b 1807, d Yell AR; m (1831) Barbara DRY, Cabarrus NC. Served in Co. H, 3d Regt, Ark. Cav. (Union). [[m 7 Oct 1831-CD]] 9. Moses M Harkey, b 24 Apr 1814, d 10 Jun 1863, Yell AR; m (23 Sep 1838) Eleanor FINK, Cabarrus NC. [[m Lenna Fink 28 Sep 1838-CD, LDS]] 10. Anna Catherine (Caty) Harkey, b 14 Apr 1818 Cabarrus NC. Mary, would you please forward this to Mr. Speight? Thanks. Alma Roark Johnson [email protected]

Dear Betty, I guess posting your query again means no one at HARKEY has found a connection with HARTKE. A couple of days ago, while surfing on the Internet, I came across two references to men named HERCHE. One is a visiting economics prof in California, the other has a home page that is all about Little League somewhere in Maryland. I wrote to both of them. We do get desperate! Do you read and write German? Mary Russell, the list coordinator, is looking for someone willing to make written queries to records places in Germany. Alma

I know the names are spelled different but hope maybe there is another Hartke out there looking for a match. My Hartkes came from Hanover Germany from the towns of Furstenau, Voltlage and Kalinghausen. They arrived in the 1840's and most settled in the Cincinnati, OH--Northern Kentucky area. My greatgrandfather owned Joseph Hartke and Sons Carriage in Covington, KY. His uncle founded Hartke Hardware in Cincinnati OH. Anyone interested in exchanging information can write Froelicher @aol.com Be waiting to hear.

Hello HARKEY researchers, Thank you all who helped me get the complete copy of Joseph Harkey's History. It is a good source of Harkey information. Now I am interested in knowing if there are some of you out there who have researched back into PA. Do you have positive finds? Have you found deadends? Although, I'm still in the 1850's and 1860's in NC with my Jesse, Dosey, and ELIZA, I'm extremely interested in moving further back with proof. Talk to the group. Thanks, Kay Wood Go Gators! Steve "GATOR" Wood "The Ball is Shaped to be Thrown" [email protected] "Pressure is the Best Defense"

Hello, Mary and all-- You asked for corrections to your list of Martin HARKEY's children. I'm in no position to correct your list, but I can tell you where your info differs from mine. None of my info is my own research. Most of it comes from Joseph Harkey's family history--"JH" in the following. I'll list only those children and only those items for which I have more or different info from your query. Again, I can't vouch for its accuracy. . 1. Elizabeth HARKEY, b Mecklenburg Co. NC, d 29 Sep 1862 Stanley Co. NC; m (23 Nov 1794) John SHOE; any descendants? /[re Elizabeth. Bapt. record: JOHN SCHUH, b 23 May 1799, bap 4 Aug 1799, s/o John SCHUH and Elizabeth (HERGER)]/ 3. Henry HARKEY 14 children b 1766/67? Mecklenburg co NC?; m Mary or Maria MELCHER /[re Henry. d ca 1826 Rowan Co. NC, according to JH]/ 4. Jacob HARKEY 10 Children b 28 Nov 1768 Mecklenburg Co. NC, d 14 July 1847 Ashville, Buncombe Co. NC; m Catherine Teator -Teeter-Teater- Teter (Which???) /[re Jacob. d Cabarrus Co. NC, according to JH]/ /[re spelling of TETER. Like HARKEY et al., all spellings equally valid unless you have a signature. Not all family lines adopted the same spelling.]/ 5. Martin HARKEY JR. 8 children b 24 Feb 1771 Mecklenburg Co. NC, d Feb 1846; m Christine MENSINGER /[re Martin Jr. d Hillsboro IL, according to JH. I'm going crazy trying to match this Martin with Kay's recent message re Sidney Levi Harkey's grandfather Martin!]/ 6. Catherine HARKEY, b 24 Nov 1779 Mecklenburg Co. NC, d 29 Sep 1862 Stanley Co NC; m (7 Dec 1801) Henry SHOE /[re Catherine. m in Cabarrus Co NC, according to JH]/ 7. David HARKEY 6 children b 4 Dec 1784 Mecklenburg co NC, d 29 Mar 1855 Cabarrus Co. NC; m 1813/14 Catherine EUDY /[re David. m2 (7 Apr 1830 Cabarrus) Elizabeth RITCHIE, according to JH]/ /[re David. had 5 children, according to JH]/ Mary, good luck. Alma [email protected]

I am asking for corrections --Please tell me any mistakes you see. --------------------------------------------- MARTIN HERCHE/HARKEY B. 1744 PA D. April 1807 in Cabarrus Co. NC. ----------------------------------------------- CATHERINE BARRINGER B.1744 D. 1824 in Cabarrus Co. NC. children------------------------------------- 1. Elizabeth Harkey any descendants??? b. Mecklenburg Co. NC. Married John Shoe Nov 23, 1794 d.Sept 29, 1862 Stanley Co. NC -------------- 2. John Harkey 10 children b 1765 in Mecklenburg Co NC married Elizabeth ___? d. 1821 in Mecklenburg Co. NC --------------- 3. Henry Harkey 14 children b. 1766/67? Mecklenburg co NC? married Mary or Maria Melcher ---------------- 4. Jacob Harkey 10 Children b. Nov. 28, 1768 Mecklenburg Co. NC m Catherine Teator -Teeter-Teater- Teter (Which???) d. July 14, 1847 in Ashville, Buncombe Co, NC --------------- 5. Martin Harkey JR. 8 children b Feb. 24, 1771 Mecklenburg Co. NC married Christine Mensinger d. Feb 1846 ---------------- 6. Catherine Harkey children? b. Nov 24, 1779 Mecklenburg Co. NC m Dec 7 1801 to Henry Shoe d Sep 29 1862 in Stanley Co NC ------------------ 7. David Harkey 6 children b. Dec 4, 1784 Mecklenburg co NC m 1813/14 to Catherine Eudy d. Mar 29, 1855 in Cabarrus Co. NC ---------------------- Mary Russell [email protected] Glasgow Kentucky

Subj.: HARKEY, Margaret Jane, m. WARREN, Peter Date: 97-08-23 From: [email protected] (Geneva Purdy) My name is Geneva Williams Purdy. Since joining your list in early August, I have been watching with interest all the posts regarding HARKEY. My gggrandmother was Margaret Jane HARKEY m. Peter T. WARREN 12 Dec 1844 in Monroe, Ittawamba, MS. She was born Aug 1826 in AL. She is believed to be the daughter of Robert A. Harkey. According to the census records her father and mother were born in NC. Their children were: Joseph Lawrence Warren, b. 1848 in MS, m. 1876 in MS Amanda WHITE (my ancestor) L. Prentis, b. 1850 Anna Cooley b. 1852, m. Joseph Crane Mollie, b. 1854 John (Johnie) b. 1858 There was another marriage in Ittawamba County, MS that I believe was the sister of Margaret Jane. Elenor L. HARKY m. Wm. N. STEGALL on 4 Nov 1841 in Ittawamba County, MS Does any of this match with anyone? I have drawn a complete blank on the Harkey family. It is possible that they moved west after the marriage of their daughters. I have a photo of Margaret Jane that I have scanned. I would like to trade information with anyone that is connected with this family. [email protected]

O.K. Went through some old files from my trip to Pike Co. I read an "abstracted" version of the 1840 census that lists him as "David Harkey". I did not see an original census at the courthouse. I got out the magnifying glass to read the deed copies I made while there. The deed March 25 (entered in book on the 26th), 1833 from Allen McDaniel looks like it could be either way: Can't tell if it is Daniel or David. The writing has a break after the n or v and it makes it tough to tell which it is. Another deed dated 2 Jan 1841 (to William Elliott) again, could be interpreted either way. Same handwriting and another break after the n or v, although of the two, this one looks more like Daniel. One of the witnesses of this one was John McEachern, the father of my ancestor, Sarah Elizabeth McEachern who married Samuel Jones Harkey. Also in my file from the trip to Pike Co.: Weldon Bankston, the son of Hiram and Susannah Slayden Bankston and brother to our Mary Ann Bankston had a son, born 1834 named William S. I found a W.S. Bankston listed in the 1850 census abstract at the courthouse, age 47 with a wife Martha J. (found yesterday where she died a few years after this census in an old Southern Christian Advocate Journal listing) along with the following: Susan A. 20 James A. 18, laborer Samuel J. 16, laborer (probably another named for Samuel Jones in Wilkes) Martha J., 10, student HARKEY, William 20, student (I believe this was Daniel & Mary's son who stayed behind when they went to MS to finish up his schooling to join them later.) Thus, I'm think we can be fairly safe to assume that this W.S. was indeed, the son of Weldon Bankston, brother of our Mary Ann. This family from W. S. remained in Pike Co. and have family there today. They owned a lumber mill and several other businesses around town. I did not stay long enough to meet any of them. My husband was anxious to get on home and tired of hanging out in the local coffee shop where everyone was staring at the "new" guy in town, ha! I will get back there whenever Bill's travels take him up that way in the future to look around a bit more. I'll be researching in Charleston, SC next week and will be out of touch for awhile. Look forward to more Harkey list posts! Teresa

Hi Tess and all-- I think the Rev. David Harkey you found in 1848 GA is not Daniel David Harkey. I sure hope someone can identify him! Unless evidence leads me to believe otherwise, I think every David Harkey is a David, not a Daniel David. On the other hand, I haven't seen any of the several Pike Co. records you mention. Can you copy them to the list, and tell us whether they were typescripts or copies of the original records (that is, in handwriting)? Maybe I should explain the reasons why I think it's unlikely that Daniel David would ever call himself David (and, again, I'm speaking without having seen original documents--or copies of them--in which the person known to be Daniel David gave his name as David). (1) Daniel is called Daniel on his marriage record to Mary Bankston. (2) He is Daniel in the 1830 Wilkes Co. GA census. (3) The name in the 1840 Pike Co GA census could be Daniel or David. (4) He is Daniel in the 1850 Pontotoc Co MS census. (5) Samuel Jones, in his will, calls him Daniel. (6) There were already so many David Harkeys around that it seems unlikely Daniel David would use his middle name. (7) Daniel David had a brother named David, and so it seems unlikely that he would use the name, too. I went to the National Archives a couple of weeks ago, determined to read the censuses until I found something. And I did. 1830 GA Wilkes Co. [M19, roll 21, p 301, 169th Dist. HARKEY, DANIEL (p 301) NOT IN INDEX. 1 male 30-40, 1 female 20-30; 2 males under 5 1840 GA Pike Co. (roll 48) HARKEY, DAVID or DANIEL (p 132) in Index, David OR Daniel in census. Males: 1 40-50, 2 10-15, 2 5-10, 3 u5; Females: 1 30-40 [NOTE: He is named DAVID in index, but handwritten census looks like it could be "Daniel." Ages fit Daniel David Harkey and Mary Ann Bankston family.] 1850 MS Pontotoc Co.: HARKEY, DANIEL 53, wife Mary 48, and all the right children. I also found the following: 1820 SC Lancaster Co.: Daniel Harkey 16-26, wife 16-26, dau u10 1840 AL Shelby Co: David Harky (looked only at Index) 1850 AL Dale Co.: Daniel Harkley 40, wife Rachel 1850 MS Itawamba Co.: David Harkie 57, wife Editha Who is this Daniel HARKEY out of South Carolina??? Alma

Alma, Mary, and all: I found the reference to Rev. David Harkey. Since Daniel David Harkey used the name David in several of his Pike Co., GA records, when I saw this, I felt like it might just be him. This man was listed as marrying Col. Swepson Taylor and Mrs. Ann Beal on 20 Jul 1848 somewhere in GA (I did not get location). From "Marriage and Death Notices from Southern Christian Advocate 1837-1860" by Brent Holcomb. What do you all think? Regards, Tess

Dear Betty, I don't know if you've found the right surname group or not in HARKEY, but if it turns out you have, then all the rest of us will be big-time winners. Not I as yet, but others in the group have been researching the Harkey roots in Europe. Could you give us an idea of when your HARTKE family came to North America and where they went? At this point, I think all of us belong to a family that probably arrived around 1743 into s.e. Pennsylvania and then spread into Virginia and the Carolinas, and then south and west. Others of that family name must have remained in Europe. It would be great to find the link. Alma Roark Johnson [email protected]

Dear Cousins: Have been researching the Hartke Name for some time. The name may also be Hatke. Not sure which came first. Both spellings are in church records in Germany. My ancestors came from the province of Hanover. The towns were Furstenou, Voltlage and Kalinghausen. The earliest ancestor I have is George Henry who had a son John Herman (probably more). John Herman had 4 sons named John Heinrich, John Dirk, John Herman and John Gerhard. I am willing to share any and all info with anyone researching the Hartke name. Just e-mail [email protected] Thanks Betty

Hello Alma, Thankk you for the response about Joseph's article. Thruogh the wonders of this surname message board Clifton Harkey has contacted me and will send me a copy. I'm all set. I did say someone ELSE because I was too lazy to go get my files in another room. and knew I would misspell Phyllis's name. Thanks for your offer to up date me . Kay Go Gators! Steve "GATOR" Wood "The Ball is Shaped to be Thrown" [email protected] "Pressure is the Best Defense"

Hi Kay, I can't find our original snail-mail correspondence, but Phyllis Dothager, in her letter to me in March, said that I had sent you "excerpts" from Joseph Harkey's family history (although I think you said you had got it from someone ELSE I had sent it to. Whatever!). What Clifton Harkey sent me a couple of years ago was itself an excerpt. If I remember correctly, the entire history has more on the recent history of his line after they removed to Texas in the mid-1800s. Mr. Harkey assumed, rightly, that I wouldn't be interested in that part. My understanding at the time I corresponded with Clifton H was that the typescript had never been published. You said you have only a few pages. I know the formats I use to send that out, so if you'll tell me how few you have and what they cover, I can tell if you got everything I have. It's HOT today! Supposed to hit 90! Fortunately, humidity isn't a problem in the Pacific Northwest--a fact that outsiders have trouble believing because of our reputation for rain. I'm taking care of my daughter's Bernese mountain dog pup, and we're both looking for cool spots in the house. Alma

This is a general question for whom ever might know. Is the Joseph Harkey History only a few pages or do I only have parts of a larger publication.? If there is more than the few pages, please lead me to a copy or a library that might have it via inter-library loan. Thanks, Kay Wood Go Gators! Steve "GATOR" Wood "The Ball is Shaped to be Thrown" [email protected] "Pressure is the Best Defense"

Dear Mary, Teresa, and all, --BIRTH DATE-- Unless we find conclusive evidence to the contrary, I'm going to assume that 25 Mar 1797 is the birthdate of Daniel David HARKEY. (I had that date for years from the Liberty Cemetery records of Dunklin Co. MO, but last month it totally slipped my faltering mind.) Of the three sources for the dates in circulation-- (1) Joseph Harkey's family history (giving 1798) is the least reliable. (2) Typescript on LDS microfilm of baptismal records of St. Johns Church in Concord, NC (17 Nov 1797) is vulnerable to mechanical errors. (3) Tombstone (25 Mar 1797)--recorded in Dunklin Co. Funeral Records, in Lora Scott Harkey's history of the Harkeys of Dunklin Co., Missouri, and by Teresa Jones, who saw the tombstone--has to be the most reliable source! Mary is right, that the information on a tombstone is whatever the person who orders the tombstone says, and it isn't always correct; but I'd trust it more than a WPA(?) typescript of 18th century baptismal records. If someone manages to view the original baptismal records, he/she may find that the typist skipped a line or the page was torn. I hope someone can get a copy of the original baptismal records, because the typescript does have a Daniel HARKEY listed at Crooked Creek, b 13 Nov 1797, bap 1 Apr 1798, as the son of JOHN HERCHE and wife ELIZABETH, and sponsors Louis HERDES (HARTIS) and wife Elizabeth. My HARKEY notes don't show another Daniel HARKEY born at that time, but I don't have the names of all of Martin's grandchildren, much less those of David (the Loyalist) HARKEY's children and grandchildren. If only they didn't all use the same four or five first names! --MARRIAGE-- The Daniel HARKEY, said to have married Margaret THOMPSON in 1818 is still a big puzzle to me. Daniel David HARKEY would have been rather young to marry in 1818, but not impossibly young. But again, I don't have a record of any other Daniel of marriageable age in 1818. I am confident that the Daniel HARKEY who married Mary Ann (or Mary Elizabeth or Betty) BANKSTON on 17 Dec 1822 in Wilkes Co GA is the Daniel HARKEY who is Teresa's 4th- and my 3rd-great grandfather. The will of Samuel Jones, signed in Wilkes Co GA in 1840, effectively establishes a connection from that Daniel to the Bankston family and to Daniel's oldest son, Samuel Jones Harkey ("I give to Samuel Jones Harkey, son of Daniel Harkey one Negro which shall not be under five nor over twelve years old"). Alma Roark Johnson

Dear Harkeys, A friend asked me to pass on this news-- If you have a Southern SEARS ancestor, you'll be interested to know that a new genealogy webpage has opened for that surname. The Internet location is: http://members.aol.com/LeeCoNC/Sears.htm Alma

Tess, I looked through 4 gedcom files There were several Davids but as far as I can tell only One Daniel David. I found two dates for his birth. 1798, Nov 13, 1797 and then the one you said March 25, 1797.Tomb stones can be wrong but I am more likely to accept the statement by a direct descendant. The november date could have been a typo. What about the dates of his marriages? Aug 11, 1818 to Margaret Thompson and Dec, 17, 1822 to Mary Elizabeth Bankston? Are those right? Do you have a photo of that stone that you could share? I am collecting photos of Harkeys and tombstones of Harkeys. Mary Russell [email protected] Glasgow Kentucky > From: [email protected] > Daniel David Harkey's correct date of birth is: 25 Mar 1797. This was on his > tombstone in Dunklin Co., MO. I don't know where the Nov. date comes from. > Could there be two Daniel Harkeys? > Teresa Jones > 4th Great-Grandaughter of Daniel David Harkey

Daniel David Harkey's correct date of birth is: 25 Mar 1797. This was on his tombstone in Dunklin Co., MO. I don't know where the Nov. date comes from. Could there be two Daniel Harkeys? Teresa Jones 4th Great-Grandaughter of Daniel David Harkey