Well okay Mary, guilt has overtaken me, I will post mine. I have quite a few double lines in and out of the Harkeys, but then that's another story, isn't it? My line is from Lorenzo Dow Reed, my great grandfather who married Martha Jane Harkey daughter of Jacob Taylor Harkey son of David Robert Harkey son of George Martin Harkey who is son of David Harkey. My Reed line from Lorenzo Dow Reed is this. He is the son of George Allen Reed who married Eliza Catherine Maria Harkey who was Jacob Taylor Harkeys sister.Confusing huh? George Allen Reeds father Claiborne Freeman Reed married Eliza Carlock Shinn. David Robert Harkey married Elizabeth Sarah Shinn sister to Eliza Carlock. Still confusing? Well I begin to wonder if the close ties filtered to me and...well.... Just kidding. Terri

Well, I think I have communicated with most everyone before there was this page but anyway...I am Laura Branton...my connection to the Harkey line is through a daughter of Isaac Matthias Harkey/Pennie Fennie Katie Maria Shinn....Martha Jane Harkey(1845) married William Brigham and their sibling Katie Alice Brigham married James Allen Haynes...their daughter Mattie Ethel Haynes married Buford Baxter Branton and they are my paternal grandparents. I have been reading all the things that were going that were going on daily and I had so much new information that I have been spending time just sorting out what everyone shared. I thought maybe the page had gone down but I am glad to see it is revived again... I have been told that there are some Harkeys in Northern Arizona but I haven't gotten there to go see for myself. I am so aware of the name now, and there are so many, that I look for it in every town I go to! I thank everyone for the information they share and I will gladly share anything I have...By the way, I have had the Harkey Honey and it is great! I really like it on hot cornbread with butter!! Talk to everyone later...Laura

This is pretty much the same account I posted in late June, so most of you may have seen it already. My Harkeys descend from Daniel David Harkey (a grandson of "Old" Martin and son of Old Martin's eldest son, John), who was born in 1797 in Mecklenburg Co NC. Daniel David removed from NC to Wilkes Co. GA, where he married Mary Ann (Betty) BANKSTON in Dec 1822. In the late 1840s they began moving westward. In MS, in 1850 (according to Lora Harkey Scott's article), he caught gold fever and decided to go to Colorado. However, when he passed through Dunklin County, in Missouri's boot-heel (the part that originally had been part of Arkansas), he found the land so bountiful that he moved his family there in 1850-51. From 1851 until about 1936, all of Daniel David HARKEY descendants lived mostly within the bounds of Dunklin County, Missouri. Daniel David had nine sons (if he had daughters, none survived past infancy). All of the sons moved to Dunklin County and most of them lived to raise families, and so, as you can imagine, Dunklin County, like Pope and Yell counties in Arkansas, is full of HARKEYs. Daniel gave land for and helped build Harkey's Chapel, the first Methodist church in Dunklin Co. The story is that he also brought the first cotton seed to Missouri. My father, Bill ROARK, however, took his young wife, Neva Alice Evelyn HARKEY, and baby to California in 1936 (and I, the second child, was born on the way, in Arizona). My mother's HARKEY family soon joined us in Napa, CA, and we stayed there through World War II. Then, in 1947, my father decided to move to Alaska. Again, the HARKEYs came, too, some with us, others shortly after. When you see AK in my descendancy chart, it is not an error. I don't mean Arkansas, I do mean Alaska. I left Alaska in 1961 and have lived in Seattle ever since. I was a research publications editor at the University of Washington until I retired a little early in 1993, and now I write short stories and stay up late. Like all the other Harkeys, I'd like to know where we came from and how we sort out in North America. One very specific question I have is this: Daniel David HARKEY's (b 1797) father, John, died in 1821 in NC. What happened to Daniel David's mother, Elizabeth? JH (Joseph Harkey) gives a specific death date for Elizabeth in 1863, but he doesn't say WHERE she died. Did she leave with one of her children, or did she remain in NC? Alma Roark Johnson [email protected]

Hello Harkey researchers, you haven't heard from me, so I thought I would follow Mary Harkey Russell and tell you about myself. I am Judith Harkey Carley from Houston, TX, I was born in Danville, Yell Co. AR and grew up 5 miles west of Danville in Belleville, Yell Co. I am the daughter of Nathan Harkey b. 1912 in Havana, Yell Co. AR. He was the son of John Kay Harkey b. 1873 Russellville, Pope Co.Ar, he was the son of Dr. William Isaac Harkey b. 1850 Russellville, Pope Co. and he was the son of John Kashaw Harkey b. 1825 NC, John came with his parents on the Shinn wagon train to Pope Co., he was the son of Isaac Mathais Harkey who had married Maria Phillipina Shinn in NC. Issac was the son of George Martin Harkey b. Abt 1771 NC, his father was David Harkey the Loyalist b. Abt 1748 in Pa, NC, or Germany? now here is where I join Mary Harkey Russell, with my David Harkey and her Martin Harkey who were bros. Who was their father?, was it Johannes Herche b. 1712 in Sterbfritz Hesse-Nassau Germany, or could they be sons of Conrad Herche?, I sure could use some answers. Lets help keep the Harkey root list going and hear from more of you out there.

Hi, I am Richard Harkey from San Saba, Tx. I am 63 years of age, have been in a wheelchair 33 years. After being paralized from a 30 foot fall from a windmill I couldn't climb a windmill anymore, or couldn't figure out how, I got into the bee business, I am a "born again beekeeper". Developed into full time job plus. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 1500 colonies. Pack more honey than we can produce. We sell under (private label) HARKEY'S HONEY. We wholesale to H. E. B. Gro. Co., for those of you who are are close enough to H. E. B. and want to see or buy HARKEY'S HONEY, look for 12 oz. plastic bear with pink Sunday School Tie Label. If someone desires a picture I can e-mail you a picture of Harkey's Honey Bear. I am from Israel Mathias Harkey Sr., Israel Mathias Jr., Richard Taylor, Elvin Richard, then Emmitt Richard--that's me (that's who I am). The Harkey page had been silent so long I thought I had been disconnected. -- -- -- Richard

Hello Harkey researchers. I thought that since none of us are posting to the list right now that I would try and start something. I am Mary Harkey Russell of Glasgow Kentucky . Born in Arkansas, raised in California and retired to Kentucky. I am a retired Psychiatric Technician , State of California. I am the daughter of James Cleason Harkey b. 1892 in Bellville Yell Co. AR. He was the son of James Thomas Harkey b 1861 in Harkey's Valley, Yell Co. Ar. he was son of Levi Harkey b 1801 in Ashville, Buncombe, NC he was son of Jacob Harkey b 1768 in North Carolina he was son of Martin Harkey b 1746 where PA or Ger???? Was he son of -----------------------Above I know----below I want to know------->>>>> Johannes Herche b b. 1712 in Sterbfritz Hesse- Nassau Germany was he son of Conrad Herche who was son of Melchoir Herche who was son of Adam Herche. ?????? Now you know who I am ----Who are you?????

The book is avialable right now at bookstores and is interesting to read. Dee Harkey was the son of Daniel Riley Harkey Sr. b. 1829 who married Margaret Smith. Daniel Riley Harkey was the son of Levi Harkey and Julia Ann Lipe. So they were my GGrandparents and Dee's Grandparents My dog bit my index finger and it is hard to type or I'd write more. Mary Russell [email protected] [email protected] Glasgow Kentucky ---------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Daniel R. Harkey > Date: Tuesday, September 30, 1997 5:42 PM > > Hi all! I don't know who this Daniel R. Harkey is but he was the author of > the following book: > "Mean as Hell by Dee Harkey" by Daniel R. Harkey 1866- > Published by Univ. of New Mex. Press (Albq.) in 1948 > > Call # 917.89H282M > > Have any of you seen this? >

Hi all! I don't know who this Daniel R. Harkey is but he was the author of the following book: "Mean as Hell by Dee Harkey" by Daniel R. Harkey 1866- Published by Univ. of New Mex. Press (Albq.) in 1948 Call # 917.89H282M Have any of you seen this?

Dear Harkeys, I wrote this note late last night but didn't mail it, because AOL had already shut down. This morning I got up grateful to still have it and thought I would dump most of it. On rereading, however, I find that, whether I'm on the right or the wrong track, I'm still intrigued by the question. I beg your tolerance. By the kind permission of Lorine McGinnis Schulze, I am copying below a section about her Swiss HERSCHE ancestors from her website, The Olive Tree Genealogy. (Her Christian HERSHEY may remind you of the Christian HARSHY on the 1743 "Lydia" passenger list.) The Olive Tree Genealogy URL is http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ (If you haven't visited The Olive Tree, you are in for a genealogical treat. Well written, lots of early passenger lists, and much more!) I am not sure of anything about our HARKEY origins, but I tend to think we are NOT the same family as HERSCHE. I base my shaky opinion mostly on the difference in sound between HERCHE and HERSCHE and the way the sounds are heard. In English there is no longer a sound exactly like the Germanic CH. Therefore, CH in a German word tends to transform into a K/G sound (unvoiced/voiced) in English (Milch, milk; Buch, book; Luchs, lynx; stark, strong; Streiche, string), whereas the SCH keeps the same sound (SH) but drops the unnecessary C (Fisch, fish; Bischof, bishop; Schwein, swine; Schulter, shoulder). I think the S sound usually stays. The above is a very general and oversimplified explanation--half-baked, one could say--and probably couldn't withstand a knowledgeable rebuttal or a broader choice of examples, but it's what I've been thinking. Refutations cheerfully accepted! That's why I think that the surname that is HERSHEY today was probably HERSCHE or HARSCHE in Europe and became something like HERSHEY or HARSHY at, say, the dock in Philadelphia. And HERCHE was approximated as and became HERKE/HARKE/HARGY. Of course, you get one list-maker in Philadelphia who hears it differently, and my idea totally falls apart. (What I'm saying above applies only to HEARD sounds. If a HERCHE wrote his own name or spelled it for a list-taker, it would be more apt to remain HERCHE.) How'd I get off onto THAT? Sorry. Here is the excerpt, with thanks to Lorine Schulze. After it, I'll add a skeletal summary of like-named persons in the 1790 PA census. =================== MY MENNONITE ANCESTORS GINGERICH/GINGRICH || HERSCHE/HERSHEY || BURKHOLDER || HUNSAKER/HUNSICKER by Lorine McGinnis Schulze The Olive Tree: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ The GINGERICH Family of Switzerland [snip] The first record of the surname in America is in Conestoga Township, Lancaster County, PA in 1724, where the name of William GINGERICK appears. In 1727 three men came to America: Christian, Jacob, and David GINGRICH. They served in Chester Co. PA as indentured servants. Johann GINGERICH appears in 1735 in Warwick Township, Lancaster County PA. My 6th great-grandfather, Michael or Ulrich GINGERICH, emigrated from Alsace to Lancaster County PA in 1747. His son, my 5th great-grandfather, Abraham GINGERICH born in Warwick Twp, Lancaster Co. PA, went to Waterloo County, Ontario with his ten children in 1801. The HERSCHE Family of Switzerland The earliest HERSHEY I have recorded is Jorg aka Jacob HERSCHE, who died after 1621 in Appenzell, Switzerland. Jorg's son, Conrad HERSCHE married Grethe Lamere. Conrad had a son, Franziest HERSCHE, who married Engel Darig. Franziest HERSCHE had a son, Hans Andrew, born 1665 who came to PA in 1719 with his sons, Andrew and Benjamin. This Andrew HERSHEY, born 1702 in Switzerland, was married to Mary. Andrew [HERSHEY] had brothers, Benjamin [HERSHEY] and Christian [HERSHEY]. Christian HERSHEY came to PA in 1717 and was married to Oade. How my poor lonely female HERSCHE born ca 1725-30, who married Ulrich aka Michael GINGRICH, fits into this line is not known. [snip] ============================== From 1790 PA census index: HARGEN(? coffee stain on last letter!), Michael HARGER, John HARGES, George HARSHEY, Benjamin, Christian (2), John, Jonathan? (another coffee stain) HERSHEY, Christian (8 of them!!!) Alma [email protected]

Pildot: don't have your email address c'mon back:>) [email protected] Tom Cozzens

Alma , you are right. The Joshua Harkey listed below from VA is not one we have in our databases and the only Harkey we know to be in VA was Conrad. but he disappeared by 1755. We do have several Joshua's but none born that early . We really need some early Virginia research done. > > In the 1850 Census for Barry Co. MO, there is a Joshua HARKEY b 1774 VA and I do believe that the Paul Harkey is son of Henry and Mary Melchor and the one mentioned in her will. I also think it unlikely that the two families didn't know of each others presence in ajacent counties. I can't give an opinion on the Harkee from France? Mary Russell [email protected] [email protected] Glasgow Kentucky

Dear Harkeys, Kay Wood's earlier comment that her HARKEYs came from Kentucky has reminded me of an old question or two. In the 1850 Census for Barry Co. MO, there is a Joshua HARKEY b 1774 VA and wife Susanna b 1776 VA. Next door is (probably) their son John HARKEY b 1806 KY (wife Judy-July b 1806 KY). Therefore, it appears that Joshua HARKEY left Virginia and went to Kentucky before 1806, and then Joshua's and John's families left Kentucky for Missouri about 1836 (judging by birth-years and birth-places of John's children). The census entries are as follows: 1850 MO Barry Co., Dist 5, Bimg? hh 430 HARKEY, JOHN, 44, b KY, farmer, $800 July/Judy, 44, b KY James 19 KY, Auston M. 18 KY, Agniss A. 15 KY, Febula J. 13 MO, Mary 9 MO, Charlotta 3 MO 1850 MO Barry Co., Dist 5, Bimg? hh 431 HARKEY, JOSHUA, 76, b VA Susanna, 72, b VA Neighbors: Ridenhour, Hicks When I see a HARKEY coming out of Virginia, of course I think of the elusive Conrad. Okay, that's all I got for Barry Co. MO. In the 1860 MO census for Cape Girardeau and Stoddard Cos., I found the following entries: 1860 Mo Cape Girardeau Co., hh 567 DORNIER? ANTOIN, 25, b France, farmer, $150 Mary, 26, 26, "same" HARKEE, FRANK, 34, "same, " farmer 1860 MO Stoddard Co. [Bloomfield, Castor twp] hh 411 HARKEY, PAUL, 68, b NC, farmer, $300 Anna, 40, b NC Cassey 18 KY, Richard 16 TN, Andrew J. 12 KY, Henry 10 KY, Mary Ann 9 KY, Delia Ann 5 MO, Joel 2 MO 1860 MO Stoddard Co. [Bloomfield, Castor twp], hh 412 HARKY, GEORGE, 24, b NC, farmer, $150 Malinda, 18, b NC It has been my thought that the Paul HARKEY in Stoddard Co. may be the son of Henry and Mary (Melcher) HARKEY. Mary in her will mentions a son, Paul. Does anyone have an opinion or documentation that this Paul is or isn't Henry and Mary's son? I found the presence of a HARKEY in Stoddard Co. MO 1860 interesting, because my ancestor, Daniel David HARKEY (who was a nephew of the above-named Henry and Mary HARKEY) settled abt 1851 in Dunklin Co. MO, directly adjacent to (and once a part of) Stoddard Co. I always wondered if each knew that the other was living so close. Alma [email protected]

At 11:23 PM 9/13/97 -0500, you wrote: >Kay and List members---- >I have been reading the papers Kay sent to me trying to figure out some >things. >You say that your John Harkey was born April 1789 and at age 6 was >orphaned. >He went to live with Jonas Lipe and his wife Christina Meisenheimer. >I know this couple as they are in my Lipe genealogy . I do not know who >Christina's parents were and at this time I have NO marriages between >Harkey, Lipe or Meisenheimer in any of my files. Kays information said >that This > that She ( Christina) was his aunt. That would mean that either his >father or mother was her sibling. Since I have no Harkey marriages to Lipe >at this time. >That would mean (maybe) that Christine Meisenheimer was his mothers sister, >which would mean that his mother was a Meisenheimer and we have the >Kay's papers state that his Mother was Elizabeth Daub. So we are up the >creek. --------- Someone help with my thinking on this. I've never been >logical. >Next. Kay's information said that John who married Sarah Walcher had >parents who were John Harkey who married Elizabeth Daub. >I have John Harkey who was a son of Old Martin 1746 and I have this John >Harkey married to an Elizabeth but didn't have her last name. >The only problem is ---------Birth dates are wrong but not off by much >I have Martin 1746> John 1765> John 1796 I don't have any children in >my files for this last John. QUESTION Kay is this last John --your John >with the wrong birth date? If not--Why not? >Jonas Lipe/Christina Meisenheimer also had a second wife Christina >Huber/Hoover. I don't know about >Johas Lipes brother was John G. Lipe who married Barbara House the parents >of Julia Ann Lipe who was my GGgrandmother.Married to Levi Harkey. >The Lipes were originally from Switzerland as I suspect out Harkey's were >too. > > >Hello List members and Mary, First the papaers I sent to Mary are really from Nancy Broersma. She has transcribed the personal memriors of Sidney levi Harkey and journal material from scrapbooks. They are delightful material for a genealogist to uncover. This isn't my direct HARKEY line and I have not been able to unravel the facts yet. The significance of these papers is that Joseph Harkey and others have had trouble finding the correct connection for JOHN father of Sidney. This information is another study aid to possibly find a link. I was particularly interested that the personal history says Switzerland was the origin of this family. Also, it appears that the writer might have gotten confused on the names of ancestors. I hope Nancy has become a list member as she might have further transcription since our contact that will shed additional light on the situation. The JOHN in these papers does appear to be the orphan boy raised by Jonas Lipe, yet we still have no true proof to tie it all together. All of this says that the early history of the HARKEY family before NC isn't a clear picture. I still wonder if the old belief that all of the Harkeys are from the Lydia immigrant might be incorrect and there are families from other immigrants who ended up spelling their name Harkey and maybe are related, not necessarily siblings, but more distant even at the onset. Hopr this isn't too confusing. I only passed on material and have no proof for this material. I'm the offshoot Of Jesse who took his family to KY after Civil War time and I've yet to find a person who came from this line, with one exception, unless they are from my direct line. Happy Sunday Kay Go Gators! Steve "GATOR" Wood "The Ball is Shaped to be Thrown" [email protected] "Pressure is the Best Defense"

Kay and List members---- I have been reading the papers Kay sent to me trying to figure out some things. You say that your John Harkey was born April 1789 and at age 6 was orphaned. He went to live with Jonas Lipe and his wife Christina Meisenheimer. I know this couple as they are in my Lipe genealogy . I do not know who Christina's parents were and at this time I have NO marriages between Harkey, Lipe or Meisenheimer in any of my files. Kays information said that This that She ( Christina) was his aunt. That would mean that either his father or mother was her sibling. Since I have no Harkey marriages to Lipe at this time. That would mean (maybe) that Christine Meisenheimer was his mothers sister, which would mean that his mother was a Meisenheimer and we have the Kay's papers state that his Mother was Elizabeth Daub. So we are up the creek. --------- Someone help with my thinking on this. I've never been logical. Next. Kay's information said that John who married Sarah Walcher had parents who were John Harkey who married Elizabeth Daub. I have John Harkey who was a son of Old Martin 1746 and I have this John Harkey married to an Elizabeth but didn't have her last name. The only problem is ---------Birth dates are wrong but not off by much I have Martin 1746> John 1765> John 1796 I don't have any children in my files for this last John. QUESTION Kay is this last John --your John with the wrong birth date? If not--Why not? Jonas Lipe/Christina Meisenheimer also had a second wife Christina Huber/Hoover. I don't know about Johas Lipes brother was John G. Lipe who married Barbara House the parents of Julia Ann Lipe who was my GGgrandmother.Married to Levi Harkey. The Lipes were originally from Switzerland as I suspect out Harkey's were too.

Dear Harkeys, I hope someone can straighten me out on this point, because I am really confused. Several messages have referred to a John who is a brother to "Old" Martin (d abt 1807) and "Old" David (d abt 1790). For lack of any other source, I use Joseph Harkey's family history as a base reference. It has some errors and omissions, and its focus is "Old" Martin's line, but it gives a reasonable background for the HARKEYs of North Carolina. JH (Joseph Harkey) doesn't mention a John as a possible son of Johan HERCHE or as a brother to Martin and David (and possibly Conrad). That always seemed odd to me, since the HARKEY families do seem to name one son John and one son after the father--so why wouldn't Johan HERCHE name a son John? He'd have a double-barreled reason to do so. But JH never comments on the presence or absence of a son for Johan HERCHE. Even when he muses over the origin of the John (b abt 1789) who was bound out to Jonas LIPE and eventually went to Illinois, he doesn't suggest that this John may have descended from a John who was a son of Johan HERCHE. What is the evidence for a John HARKEY who is a son of Johan HERCHE and a brother to "Old" Martin and "Old" David? I am missing something here, and would be eternally grateful for a light in the darkness. I hope I haven't made this even more confusing. Thanks for listening. Alma [email protected]

In the book"Harkey History" Ancestors and Descendants compiled by O. B. Harkey there is a timeline on page 2. 1716 Birth of Johannes Herche Strassburger & B.W. Cruse. 1743 Johannes Herche lands in PA Same source ca 1750 David Harkey born who signed petition in 1779 1768 Jacob Harkey b 28 nov m. Catherine Tearor 1769 Martin Harkey bought land in April in Meklenburg Co. NC. 1769 Mathias Barringer sells 130 a. land on Dutch buffalo creek to Martin Harkey 1755 to 1774 According to the 1800 census Cabarrus Co Three Martin Harkeys were born in the co or somewhere else 1775 to 1784 A fourth Martin was born according to 1800 census of Cabarrus 1778 Book "Mecklenburg Signers and their Neighbors" shows Martin Harkey as a Public Official 1779 David Harkey signs a petition to form Montgomery from Anson Co. 1779 N.C. Heads of Families shows a Widow Harkey annd John Harkey in Mecklenburg Co. 1789 Martin Luther was born, son of John. He is too young to be one of the 4 Martins of 1800 census of Cabarrus and all four of the Martins in the 1800 censes of Cabarrus are too young to have bought land in Mecklenburg in April 1769. None of them were born before 1775 The deduction from this is --The oldest Harkeys we know about in North Carolina are Martin of Mecklenburg and David of Anson-Montgomery so he said Lacking evidence to the contrary I do conclude that all us Cabarrus Co. Harkeys are descendants of Martin. This page was signed by Lillian Lawrance ----------------------------------------------------- I think this is full of holes and I think they start with Johannes. I hope some of us can get somewhere to dig out the facts on our immigrant ancestor. Mary Russell [email protected] [email protected] Glasgow Kentucky

Hi everyone! 1. "DES" The only place I've ever seen "Des" (Martin Des HARKEY) is in the LDS ancestral file. I never found out its meaning, and so I decided that the submitter had tried to enter "Martin der Alte" or "Martin der Vater" or something like that (to distinguish him from "Martin der Junge") and something had gone amiss--perhaps the first word had been misread or mistyped, and there wasn't enough room on the submission to write both words. That's a pretty fanciful rationalization but the best I could do. 2. BIRTH YEARS All I can offer is Joseph Harkey's statement about Martin: >>Evidently, Martin was born in Lancaster Co., PA, between 1740 and 1745, perhaps earlier. His father had come from Holland shortly before that. . . .>> I've never seen any evidence for confirmed or even inferred birth years, but it would be great if someone answers your request. Otherwise, it looks like you get to pick. 3. JOHN Do you have a John as a BROTHER to "Old" Martin and David "the Loyalist"?? I have never seen mention of one, although it seems reasonable that there would be one. (I thought there might have been one but he died early.) I hope that you get lots of responses to your message, and that they are more helpful than mine. Alma [email protected]

I am comparing 8 sets of gedcom files all on HARKEY . In comparing these files I find his birth date listed as 1744----4 times 1746---3 times about 1735--- once I don't think any of us have positive proof . We think the three Harkey brothers were born in 1744- 1746- and 1748. If John was the oldest he would have the 1744 slot and Martin would be 1746 and David would be 1748. My intent is to combine the files and my program wants consistant dates. I do not want to start changing names or dates to make them fit until I have something totally unrelated to any Harkey family when I finish. If some of you have any proof of Martin "Des" birth date--please respond. By the way What is "Des"????? Your Cousin in Confusion -----Mary Russell [email protected] Glasgow Kentucky

Dear Harkeys, First off, may I ask a favor -- When mentioning births, marriages, deaths, and removals, please attach a date and a place. It's really helpful for people like me, who are trying to get a handle on all the same-name HARKEYs. The less we have to assume or infer, the less room for error. Tim Quarto mentioned the following marriage:-- (Katy) Maria SHINN m Isaac HARKEY abt 4FEB1828. (film # 1760778) Is that a different marriage from the following?-- Isaac Mathias HARKEY m Maria Phillippina SHINN 4 May 1827 Rowan Co. NC. (CD-ROM) I've been looking at the censuses for NC and AR, trying to distinguish the families. This is the only Isaac HARKEY I found in 1830: 1830 census, Cabarrus Co NC (p 199) HARKEY, Isaac 20-30 yr old wife 20-30 yr old 1 male 5-10 yr old 1 male and 2 females 0-5 yr old The older son of this Isaac was born abt 1820-1825, too early to be the product of a marriage in 1827-28. (It's not likely that he was born later than 1825, because he has three younger siblings.) Three possible answers: (1) both marriage dates are wrong, (2) this is a different Isaac, or (3) the SHINN marriage was a second marriage for one of them. The 1850 Pope Co. census lists Isaac HARKEY's wife as "Penny C. M." That could be for Phillippina Catherine Maria (SHINN). Isaac's oldest child, John (m Minerva SHAW), is already 25 in the 1850 Pope Co. census--which still suggests a marriage for Isaac no later than 1825--unless, again, SHINN is his second marriage. The children in the 1850 AR census (combined with Tim Quarto's listing of Isaac's children, and assuming that he listed the older ones roughly in order of birth) indicate that the Isaac in the 1850 AR census is the Isaac in the 1830 NC census. Does anyone have an explanation for the discrepancy between the marriage dates of Isaac HARKEY & SHINN and the age of Isaac's oldest child? Thanks Alma Roark Johnson [email protected]

Dear Harkey Group, I am Flora Barrett and I have been totally silent since this list started. I am in the middle of trying to finish writing a family history on another one of my lines and although I have read all of your letters with a great deal of interest I haven't added anything. I am way behind schedule with this other history, but as soon as I get it finished I hope to be able to put in my two cents worth occassionally. <G> Today I found the Bill Harkey that Mary was searching for ( see correspondence relating to this Bill below). This is the Bill Harkey who married Mary Moore. Following is the information that I have: William Riley Harkey, b 1844 in Stanley County, NC, son of James Harkey and Eliza Tucker, who moved from NC to Pope County, Ar. William Riley is listed as their 8th child. William married first to Mary Ann Jackson and 2nd to Mary Moore. I do not have a death date on William, a marriage date to either wife or any other information. I will write the man who sent this information to me and see if perhaps he has more on William, Williams wives, or his children. I will post all new information that I receive to this list. I hope that this is of some use to the lady that Mary was helping. Happy Hunting, Flora Barrett Oklahoma ========================== Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 22:50:48 -0500 Subject: Bill Harkey Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Hi Harkey List and Hi Joann. Joann asked me to find Bill Harkey b. Yell Co. AR.in 1850 who married Mary Lee Moore. He died in 1924 in Haskell Co. OK. She said they had three sons and a daughter. I can not find Bill Harkey in my database. Well , I find lots of William Harkeys but none that match an 1850 birthdate and none with Mary Lee Moore as a wife. I do know of a Moore--My G- grandpa Moses I Harkey's 4th wife was Jane Moore. Everybody get your notes out and let's find Bill Harkey for Joann. Mary Russell [email protected] << ================================== >>Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 15:18:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Bill HARKEY, b 1850 Yell Co. AR Message-ID: <[email protected]> The Yell County Harkeys have both William and Willburn names, so "Bill" might be Willburn (Wilburn, Wellborn, etc.). (Wilburn is also a continuing name in my line of HARKEYs. Was he a governor or general or something?) Is Flora Barrett part of the HARKEY discussion group? She wrote the "Harkeys of Yell County, Arkansas" history about her own family. She would certainly be a good person to ask. Alma Roark Johnson [email protected]<< ================================ >>Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 05:53:42 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Bill HARKEY, b 1850 Yell Co. AR Message-ID: <[email protected]> The Harkey info I have comes from a book entitled "The Shinn family in Europe and America" It is available, on film, at LDS Family history centers. The book was originally published at the turn of the century. (I am not convinced that it is an unimpeachable source, but the more recent information appears to be reliable.) The book basically tells the story of the Shinn family in NJ and how they arrived in NC in the mid 1700s. The narrative ends with "The sixth generation" with a (Katy) Maria Shinn who married Isaac Harkey abt 4FEB1828. (film # 1760778) A list of their children (according to the book) is as follows: 1. John Kashaw Harkey(7), m Minerva Shaw and had children, Dr William Isaac Harkey of Ola Ark, and Mary Harkey. 2. Lavina Harkey (7) m first Jacob Mendenhall and then Talkington. 3. Mary Emeline Harkey (7) m Dickney Fowler and had children. James, Sarah,John, and Francis, plus three others who died in infancy. 4. James Sharp Harkey (7) m Mary Ann Petray. 5. William Jacob Harkey (7) m first Frances Burkhead, then Mary Wells, then Elizabeth George, and had children. William, Jesse, Charles, Emily, Maggie, Lucy, Rosa, and Addie. 6. Hester Harkey (7) [My direct ancestor] m Birk Talkington and had children... 7. Sara Elizabeth Harkey (7) m DeWitt Stout and had children: Henry, Thomas and Kate. 8. Thomas Jefferson Harkey (7) enlisted and died in the Confederate army. 9. Martha Jane Harkey (7) m William Brigham, and had children Lillie and Alice. 10. Martin Luther Harkey (7), 11. Maria Ann Minerva Harkey, (7) m Robert Battenfield. 12. Kate Harkey(7) m William Martin and had eleven children of which I have six, Samuel, Charles, Mattie, Lillie, Annie, and Martina. 13. Littleton Harkey (7), ob infans. I have another source that has this couple with 15 children, so errors may abound here. I would like to know if any of these Harkeys ring a bell with anyone in the discussion group, as the info I have seen so far has not listed an Isaac Harkey in NC. I am interested in knowing who his parents were. The book also records that several other Shinns and Harkeys married and travelled to Arkansas together during "The great exodus" These were siblings of Katy Maria: Elizabeth Sarah Shinn m David Harkey 1/24/1822; James Madison Shinn m Sophia Harkey in 1832. Hope this helps to make connections with Harkeys you might have. Tim Q.<< ==============