Thank you both for info on the Clarks. I updated the Handley web page yesterday, but haven't attempted to change or add to the John and William 2 generations yet. That will be quite a job (to change the parents off William and over to John), but I have it in the back of my mind to do. Meanwhile, one of my other web sites (for med students) is joining with a co-operative group of similar pages, and there is quite a bit to do with that. So one of these days.... Happy holidays! Nancy