Nancy & all; I have found my copy of the Besey clark papers that I sent to in Handly -L mail address. theese should be in the archives. The title is Handley History; the dates sent are MOn 17 of Nov. 1997 04:10:13 -0800 to Wed 19 Nov 1997 05:57:55-0800 thur Fri 21 Nov 1997 18:28:12-0800 also Nov 23 1997, Nov 24 1997, Nov 26 1997, Nov 29 1997, Dec 1 1997. I hope this will help you find them. I must admit I tried the archives but could not come up with them. BUT REMEMBER I AM TRING TO LREARN THIS NEW COMPUTOR AND ENTER MY FAMILY TREE. Ann