Gosh I hope not.. I just got some info from someone in Ca..and she was in touch with Bev Jones in Texas..and I just e-mailed Kathleen Goodman ( she owes me some info..) and I just got a whole bunch of pictures for the Thiel side of the family (two Thiels married two Handley sisters...) this summer... I am still seeking info on Ewell and his children..and wonder if there were more children for Logan Handley than just the two boys..... Since I am going in all sorts of directions at once..I tend to get a little sporatic with my research.. I still owe you the copy of the story by the twins Edith and Ethel Handley ...and have not had the time to sit down and send it..I did send it to Bev Jones for her files..and it does give some info about the family and their childhood and their grandparents.. Hope all is well with you..Cretia Olsen in Alaska..