Mike, did you ever get to your files? No hurry... Nancy << I will be looking at my file this labor day weekend and get back with you and everyone. Dr. Harry Handley of Lewisburg, W VA, who kept a ton of files on Handley history, was working on the ancestors of William Handley, who came from New Castle County, PA/DE to Virginia. He had some real good theories and leads, but was unable to prove them. A lot of what is written on those ancestors in "post-1 (test)," were among the theories he had. The challenge now, is to find evidence that will prove them. Dr. Handley's sister, Birdie Handley Musser and I use to stay in touch when she was living, through visits to see her, letters and phone calls. She wanted so much to see her brother's theories proven, as he worked many, many years on the Handley ancestry and wanted so much to carry the line back overseas, but did not get that far. Hopefully, this will happen. Mike >>

Forwarded from djackson@InfoAve.Net: Ellie, I looked at NC records for Handleys during the Revolution. I found Capt. Samuel Handly, born in NC and was one of the King's Mountain Men. I also found Joseph Handley of Granville Co. NC who received a voucher for being in the Continental Line payments were made in 1792 that were due in 1783. Also William Handley, Shephards Co. enlised 28 July 1777 served for 3 years in the 10th Regt. of Abraham Shephard. Also the roll of Capt. Benjamin Coleman's Co. 2nd. NC Battalion commanded by Col. John Patton, White Plains, 9 Sept 1778 William Handley, Pvt. 28 July 1777 3 years service. The returns of the 2nd NC Battalion reinlisted William Handley 12 March 1779 in Capt. Colemans Co. In Virginia records I found that in the Lunenburg Co. VA ORder book 1748-1752, April Court 1751. William Handly petitioner agst. Richard Yarbro, petitioner to recover 2 pounds 3 shillings in debt. IN the Cumberland Parish of Lunenburg Co. VA Vestry Book William Handly denyed by the processioners on 10 March 1768. Also there was James Handly who was exempted from payment of parish levies for the future 1751 in Cumberland Parish, Lueneburg Co. VA. In Northumberland Co. VA John Hanley signes an oath to the Commonwealth of England 13 April 1652. Does anyone know about these Handleys? Dan ---------- >From: Ellie Handley <ehandley@texas.net> >To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [HANDLEY-L] Capt Samuel Handley >Date: Fri, Sep 24, 1999, 6:16 AM > >It appears we have two Samuel Handley's in the Rev. War. >Samuel Carroll Handley, West VA. Lived in NC and East Tenn., before >moving to Franklin Co., Tenn. >Pierce's Register, Appendix, page 481, Reference Page 182. Manuscript >Pages: Capt Samuel Handley, b. NC. >It also appears that both of these Handley's have the same first name >and they both were in the Rev War and both lived in NC and Greene Co., >Tenn. >Samuel Carroll was to young to have a son, in the war. >Is it possable the Samuel Carroll has been mixed up with Capt Samuel of >NC.?? Capt Samuel may belong to Mark Handley, family???? >If anyone has any info on this, please let me know. Ellie >>

It appears we have two Samuel Handley's in the Rev. War. Samuel Carroll Handley, West VA. Lived in NC and East Tenn., before moving to Franklin Co., Tenn. Pierce's Register, Appendix, page 481, Reference Page 182. Manuscript Pages: Capt Samuel Handley, b. NC. It also appears that both of these Handley's have the same first name and they both were in the Rev War and both lived in NC and Greene Co., Tenn. Samuel Carroll was to young to have a son, in the war. Is it possable the Samuel Carroll has been mixed up with Capt Samuel of NC.?? Capt Samuel may belong to Mark Handley, family???? If anyone has any info on this, please let me know. Ellie

Thanks for the good chuckle!! If I don't get over this slump I am in with my Hanley's--I might just have to take Abby's advice:) << Dear Abby: I have always wanted to have my family history traced, but I can't afford to spend a lot of money on it. Any suggestions? Sam in California Dear Sam: Yes. Run for public office. Abby ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

<< Dear Abby: I have always wanted to have my family history traced, but I can't afford to spend a lot of money on it. Any suggestions? Sam in California Dear Sam: Yes. Run for public office. Abby >>

Hi, all: Ancestry.Com has info from the DAR Lineage Books on-line for free for a few days. Here are a few of the 37 references to "Handley". You might want to browse the info yourself, or for variations of the spelling, at http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search/3174.htm What might be interesting are the people with "Handley" as a middle or first name. Perhaps this indicates an Handley ancestor??? Like John HANDLEY Bushnell (1744-1828) who married, in 1768, Sarah Willard (1751-1824). Could "Bushnell" be the married name of a sister of John and William HANDLEY? You can always find a search link to Ancestry.com on the Handley Web Site: http://members.aol.com/Sftrail/handley/ ======== The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution Volume 17 page 330 Mrs. Evelina Davis White. DAR ID Number: 16909 Born in Acton, Massachusetts. Wife of John White. Descendant of Capt. Daniel Davis, of Massachusetts. Daughter of Ebenezer Davis and Charlotte HANDLEY, his wife. Granddaughter of Daniel Davis and Rebecca White, his wife. Daniel Davìs, (1749-1816), served as captain of the Fifth company, Third Middlesex militia regiment, 1780, commanded by Col. Francis Faulkner. He was born and died in Acton. ======== The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution Volume 30 page 205 [p.205] Mrs. Ellen L. Marden. DAR ID Number: 29572 Born in Allentown, New Hampshire. Wife of John Marden. Descendant of Elias Barron, of Massachusetts. Daughter of Rufus Flint and Lucinda Barron, his wife. Granddaughter of Elias Barron and Lucy HANDLEY, his wife, m. 1790. Elias Barron, (1756-1822), served as a private, 1775, and 1776, enlisted in the infantry under Capt. Joseph Hosmer. He was born in Concord, Mass., where he died. ======= The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution Volume 37 page 352 Mrs. Mary Carroll Craig Bradford. DAR ID Number: 37991 Born in Brooklyn, New York. Wife of Edward Taylor Bradford. Descendant of Caleb Halsted, of New Jersey. Daughter of James Barnes Craig and Anna Turk Carroll, his wife. Granddaughter of William Craig and Sarah Joanna Handley, his wife. Gr.-granddaughter of Oliver HANDLEY and Joanna Smith, his wife. Gr.-gr.-granddaughter of Samuel Smith and Sarah Halsted, his wife. Gr.-gr.-gr.-granddaughter of Caleb Halsted and Rebecca Ogden (1729-1806), his wife, m. 1744. Caleb Halsted, (1721-84), was a patriot and his sons Caleb, William and Robert served in the army. Also Nos. 27490, 34264. ======= The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution Volume 39 page 173 Mrs. Edith Isbell Stoker. DAR ID Number: 38469 Born in Topeka, Kansas. Wife of George E. Stocker. Descendant of Corp. Jared Clark, John HANDLYE Bushnell, John Snow, John Brown, 2nd, Nathaniel Parmalee and Sergt. Phineas Bushnell. Daughter of Henry Ludlow Isbell and Melissa Cowan Herr, his wife. Granddaughter of Harlow Snow Isbell and Anne Bushnell Clark, his wife; William A. Cowan and Mary Brown, his wife. [p.173] Gr.-granddaughter of Robert Isbell and Sarah Snow, his wife; Zachariah Clark and Hannah Bushnell, his wife; James Brown and Jane Brattan, his wife. Gr.-gr.-granddaughter of John Snow and Hepzibah Hall, his wife; Jared Clark and Mehitable Dimmock, his wife; John Handley Bushnell and Sarah Willard (1751-1824), his wife, m. 1768; John Brown, 2nd and Margaret Truesdale, his wife; Robert Isbell and Lois Parmelee, his wife. Gr.-gr.-gr.-granddaughter of George Willard and Hannah Merrell, his wife; John Brown and Hannah —, his wife; Phineas Bushnell and Priscilla Clark, his wife; Nathaniel Parmelee and Rebecca —, his wife. Jared Clark, (1742-1803), served as corporal in Col. Samuel Holden Parson's regiment 1775. He was born in Chester; died in Saybrook, Conn. Also No. 28895. John HANDLEY Bushnell, (1744-1828), served as private in Capt. Isaac Stevens company to re-enforce the army at Ticonderoga. He was born and died in Saybrook. John Snow, (1733-1808), served as private and was taken prisoner at Fort Washington 1777. John Brown, 2d, (1752-1842), took the oath of allegiance in Cumberland county, Pa., where he was born and died. Nathaniel Parmelee, (1710-80), marched from Killingworth, Conn., at the first call for troops. Phineas Bushnell, (1718-83), responded to the New Haven Alarm. He was born in Chester; died in Saybrook, Conn. ======= The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution Volume 63 page 80 Mrs. Kilby Gilkerson Stone. DAR ID Number: 62241 Born in Warrensburg, Mo. Wife of Porter Stone. Descendant of John HANDLEY, of Virginia. Daughter of Shanklin Gilkerson and Mary Grover, his wife. Granddaughter of William Gilkerson and Elizabeth HANDLEY, his wife. Gr-granddaughter of Archibald HANDLEY and Susan Kinkaid, his wife. Gr-gr-granddaughter of John HANDLEY and Mary HANDLEY, his wife. [p.80] John HANDLEY in 1777 served as private in Capt. Matthew Irvine's company, Col. William Malcolm's regiment, and, 1778, in Capt. John Sanford's company, same regiment. He was born in Augusta County; died in Greenbrier County, Va. ======= The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution Volume 71 page 1 Mrs. Elmira Grover Gilkeson Litchfield. DAR ID Number: 70001 Born in Johnson County, Mo. Wife of Webb Litchfield. Descendant of John HANDLEY. Daughter of Shanklin Gilkeson and Mary Grover, his wife. Granddaughter of William Gilkeson and Elizabeth HANDLEY, his wife. Gr-granddaughter of Archibald HANDLEY and Susan Kinkaid, his wife. Gr-gr-granddaughter of John HANDLEY and Mary HANDLEY, his wife. John HANDLEY (1737-1810), in 1777, served as a private in Capt. Matthew Irvine's company, Col. William Malcolm's regiment, and, 1778, in Capt. John Sanford's company, same regiment. He was born in Augusta County; died in Greenbrier County, Va. Also No. 62241. ======= The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution Volume 104 page 96 Mrs. Gertrude Marshall Sprigg. DAR ID Number: 103303 Born in Wanamaker, Mo. Wife of Charles T. Sprigg. Descendant of John HANDLEY, as follows: 1. Richard Allen Marshall (b. 1854) m. 1878 Lily Belle HANDLEY (b. 1860). 2. Archibald H. HANDLEY (1819-1908) m. 3rd 1854 Phœbe Eleanor Claycomb (1831-92). 3. Archibald HANDLEY (1777-1858) m. Susan Kincaid (1780-1864). 4. John HANDLEY m. Mary —. John HANDLEY (1737-1810), in 1777, served as a private in Capt. Matthew Irvine's company, Col. William Malcolm's regiment, and, 1778, in Capt. John Sanford's company, same regiment. He was born in Augusta County; died in Greenbrier County, Va. Also No. 70001. ======= HANDLEY Bushnell (1730-1811) was a member of committee to purchase supplies for the army. He was born and died in Saybrook, Conn. ======= The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution Volume 111 page 297 [p.297] Mrs. Ada Mcdaniel Elliott. DAR ID Number: 110948 Born in Butler, Mo. Wife of Miles Elliott. Descendant of John HANDLEY and of Frederick Claycomb, as follows: 1. Henry Harrison McDaniel (b. 1854) m. 1875 Susan Virginia HANDLEY (b. 1856). 2. Archibald H. HANDLEY (1819-1908) m. 3rd 1854 Phoebe Eleanor Claycomb 1831-92). 3. Archibald HANDLEY (1777-1858) m. 1797 Susan Kincaid (1780-1864); Frederick Claycomb (1787-1849) m. 1816 Catherine Tabler (1792-1870). 4. John HANDLEY m. Mary —; Frederick Glaycomb m. Eliza —. John HANDLEY (1737-1810) in 1777 served as a private in Capt. Matthew Irvine's company, Col. William Malcolm's regiment, and, 1778, in Capt. John Sanford's company, same regiment. He was born in Augusta County; died in Greenbrier County, Va. Also No. 70001. ======= The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution Volume 158 [p.1] THE NATIONAL SOCIETY OF THE Daughters of the American Revolution page 228 Mrs. Josephine Lee HANLEY Mccurdy.157746 Born in Houstonia, Mo. Wife of George McCurdy. Descendant of Lieut. John HANDLEY and George Boone, as follows: 1. Charles Leslie HANLEY (b. 1875) m. 1898 Lenox Berry (b. 1875). See No. 157745. 2. James Wm. HANLEY (b. 1838) m. 1860 Clementine Hannah Beaver (b. 1841). 3. Thomas HANLEY m. 1835 Mary Shire. 4. Archibald HANDLEY (d. 1858) m. Susan Kinkaid (1780-1864). 5. John HANDLEY m. Mary —. John HANDLEY (1746-1811) served as lieutenant in the Greenbrier County, Virginia troops. He was born in Augusta County; died in Monroe County, Va. ======= The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution Volume 160 page 127 Mrs. Dorothy Dorrance Worthington. DAR ID Number: 159383 Born in Camden, N. Y. Wife of Elliott Worthington. Descendant of John HANDLEY Bushnell, as follows: 1. Frank Fifield Dorrance (b. 1869) m. 1894 Minnie Lohnes (b. 1875). 2. Fillmore A. Lohnes (1850-1900) m. 1873 Mary Durst (1855-1902). [p.127] 3. William Henry Lohnes (1817-94) m. 1840) Artimicia Bushnell (1819-1910). 4. Joshua Bushnell (1769-1863) m. 1796 Jerviah Fillmore (1779-1853). 5. John HANDLEY Bushnell m. 1768 Sarah Willard (1751-1824). John HANDLEY Bushnell (1744-1828) served as private in Capt. Aaron Stevens' company, Colonel Mott's battalion, Connecticut troops. He was born and died in Saybrook, Conn. Also No. 97610. ======= The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution Volume 160 page 259 Mrs. Minna Mcdaniel Gorton. DAR ID Number: 159819 Born in Higginsville, Mo. Wife of Henry Clay Gorton. Descendant of Lieut. John HANDLEY, as follows: 1. Henry Harrison McDaniel (b. 1854) m. 1875 Susan Virginia HANDLEY (b. 1856). 2. Archibald H. HANDLEY (1819-1908) m. 1854 Phoebe Eleanor Claycomb (1831-92). 3. Archibald HANDLEY (1777-1858) m. 1797 Susan Kincaid (1780-1864). 4. John HANDLEY m. Mary —. John HANDLEY (1746-1811) served as lieutenant in the Greenbrier County, Virginia troops. He was born in Augusta County; died in Monroe County, Va. Also No. 157746. =======

Playing an Irish tune in the background, this site is not Handley related but might be interesting for some. http://homepages.msn.com/NonProfitBlvd/sequoiapostman/index.htm Nancy

Judy,and all-- >> the families onto family group sheets in order for it to make sense to me. << I just copied and pasted but you are all welcome..I tried to make sense of it all after i went thru and put families in an order.I am figuring that Dr Harry Handley started about 1950's;Randall Handley did his book copies from Dr.Harry's plus some info from more people..and Mary Mortimeyer was at least working on it before 1986. . And then there are the Draper papers and the Chalkley Chronicles!!! All these research people and we still can't say for certain WHO goes with WHOM. Do you spose there is an undiscovered box somewhere in Monroe co. carol

Thank you Carol Ann for all that wonderful Handley information. I will have to put the families onto family group sheets in order for it to make sense to me. I have been able to document my ancestor, George Handley, son of James. When he left Butler Co with his wife Margaret, they had several small children. I have a copy ofhis certificate of land ownership in Henry Co IN, 1820, signed by Pres. James Buchanan. I found he and his family in the 1830 IN census, but in 1840, Margaret was living alone in Decatur Co IN. In 1860 she was living with their son Robert and his wife Nancy and children, and his son Evan James Handley - my ancestor - was living nearby. My thinking is that George had died. However, I have never found any other siblings to my ancestor Evan, which might explain the reasoning they went West. I was told by a genealogist in Decatur Co that Margaret and George were also buried in the same cemetery as Robert and Nancy, but I have not as yet been able to travel there to see for myself. Again - thank you for putting this on the Handley Line.

Ellie...No it's not a news article; it's part of a biographical sketch of my gr-grandfather William A. Handley(brother to James Madison Handley)who was influential in the development of Birmingham, Al.I don't consider myself anything but a novice when it comes to genalogy but your version of things is closer to what I've been told all my lifetime. My great-gr grandfaather John Randolph Handley was born in Burke Co. Ga. ,1812. Burke Co. records have been ravaged by fire;this is where I lose my connection trying to retrace back to Norfolk,Va.This is where Jacks' parents moved to Burke Co.,Ga.from. There seems to be several Handley families in this same area. Richmond Co., WashingtonCo.,BurkeCo.are almost adjacent;and Laurens Co. S.C. isn't far away. Haven't really gotten much further with J.M.but I'll be in B'ham tomorrow he lived there for some time and maybe I can come up with something. Regards, Lee ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

1860 Census Newberry Handley, age 26, 1860 census, Location: Winterboro (dwelling 153, family 164 Wife: Sarah , age 25, Children: 1- Dialpha Handley, age 6, Female 2- John Handley, age 4, Male 3- Wm Handley, age 2, Male ***************************************** Notes from Betty Lessley, Sylacauga, phone 245-5072 1870 Census- Clay County- Location: Weyokeville dist. Dwelling#482- Family #485 N.O. Handley, age 36, township: 21, Range 5 east Farmer Born: Tenn Wife: S.A. (Sarah Ann Carton) age 35, (b:9/23/1834-D:9/2/1917) Children: 1- J.T. Handley, age 14, male 2- W.B. Handley, age 12, Male 3- M.E. Handley, age 9, Female 4- M.A. Handley, age 7, Female 5- F.G. Handley, age 4, Female 6- A.F. Handley, age 1, Female **************************************** Census 1880- Talladega County, Beat 13 Newberry Handley, age 46, Farmer, Born: Tenn Wife: Sarah A., age 45,Born: Alabama, Father Born: Va, Mother Born: Tenn. Children: 1- Martha L. Handley, age 17, Daughter 2- Froena G. Handley, age 13, Name could be (Sophronia )Married: M.L. Ponder 3- Aniel F. Handley, Age 11, Daughter ************************* 1880 Census (dwelling#155, House #155 ) Silas M. McKee, age 22, Farmer, Born:Alabama?, Mother born:Alabama Wife: Margarett A., age 17, born: Alabama, Father:Alabama, Mother:Alabama *************************************** Clay county 1870 Census Note: all of these people living with the Owens family. Sailors living in same family Owings family: Dwelling # 472Family # 475 William Owens, age 55,Born: Tenn Wife: Malissa Owens, age 45, Born:Ala. Children: 1- Thomas Owens, age 17, born:Ala. 2- Adeline Owens, age 15, Female, 3- Wm owens, age 13 , son 4- L.E. Owens, age 10, Female 5- Nathan Owens, age 7, Female ? 6- C.O. Owens, age 5, Female 7- Arminda Owens, age 11/12 , Born: July Also living in the same house: P.M. Sailors, Age ?(21 or 31) Male P.M. Wife: S.B. Sailors, age 26 Female Had a M.E. Handley living with them! ********************** Sincerly, Jimmy Payne dpayne@mindspring.com Talladega County, Al.

Sorry, I don't have a scanner. I've got the book, too, so if I could scan it I wouldn't need another copy. But I don't. We could upload what he has sent us on-line, but, as you say, need permission from whoever holds the copyright. Nancy << Nancy, received a note from Richard-he is sending a copy-would this be easy for you to scan and put on the site if i send you a copy of his copy.would have to get his permission to do it but think he would. carol >>

Nancy, received a note from Richard-he is sending a copy-would this be easy for you to scan and put on the site if i send you a copy of his copy.would have to get his permission to do it but think he would. carol >>From: RHopk45156@aol.com To: cedartree2@juno.com Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 11:06:09 EDT Subject: Re: Handley Family I will print up the whole book and send it to you. Where do you want it sent? Richard On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:12:41 EDT Sftrail@aol.com writes: >If I can get written permission from Mary or Richard, maybe we can >upload the >text of this book to the Handley page for on-line research. I'll try >to >contact Mary. > >Nancy >

Sftrail@aol.com wrote: > > The archives of the Handley list that I like the best are at: > http://www.escribe.com/genealogy/handley/ > > Nancy > > << I have information on the Handley Library and I sent all the info on the > net so you can acess it in the archives. Ann > >> It looks like it was not put in there. Ann Maybe I put it in my handley file and can send it again so it will be put in escribe. Ann

Sftrail@aol.com wrote: > > The archives of the Handley list that I like the best are at: > http://www.escribe.com/genealogy/handley/ > > Nancy > > << I have information on the Handley Library and I sent all the info on the > net so you can acess it in the archives. Ann > >> That is most klikely where you will find it as I typed the whole brchure with his family history on line last year. Ann

The archives of the Handley list that I like the best are at: http://www.escribe.com/genealogy/handley/ Nancy << I have information on the Handley Library and I sent all the info on the net so you can acess it in the archives. Ann >>

Anyone know of Elizabeth A. (Handley) SIMMONS, of Cabell Co., VA? If so, please send a copy of your response to ngburke@halcyon.com as well as here to the Handley-L. Thanks! Nancy << Subj: Re: GEORGE/SIMMONDS Date: 9/3/1999 11:54:41 PM Central Daylight Time From: ngburke@halcyon.com (Nancy Burke) To: Sftrail@aol.com (Nancy Sween) Nancy: I have information that says a Conwellsey SIMMONS (26) b. VA was married to Elizabeth A. HANDLEY (28). Children: Malinda 12, Sampson, 8. In the 1850 Census of Cabell Co., VA, he also had Oliver A. MC GINNIS 25, Sheriff, Charles. SHOEMAKER 15, farmer, Helen S. 17, b. OH, Wm WILLIAMS 19, laborer, James JONES 18, laborer, Melicia (JONES?) 16, b. OH, living with him. Was a fairly wealthy man. $6000 (either Real Estate or Personal Property..didn't note which one) I would be interested in any information you may have about this man. Curious to know if he is of 'my' SIMMONS family. >>

Carol, Thanks, also, from this relative newcomer to the Handley line. Your generous work has helped answer a lot of my questions as to where all the Handley people and names that were being tossed about on rootsweb were coming from. Your pages of information sure beat this alphabetical name & date chart I was trying to make! Years ago when I was researching the old fashioned way on another family associated with the Handleys, I seem to remember mention of a Handley Library in Winchester, VA. Has anyone checked there for a family file or background of the library name? I am unfamiliar with how to access any of this information on the net. Perhaps those of you who do know how, might want to pursue this avenue. Donna Grass Grassrd@aol.com

What is involved in proving genealogy theories? New primary documents? Does anyone have a bibliography of documented resources so others could tell if their resources are new ones? Speaking of resources and of Dr. Handley, I came across a letter from his wife the other day, where she told me Ann Handley George was not connected to the Greenbrier Co Handley family. So even very reliable resources sometimes make mistakes. Nancy Sween

Forwarded... << Subj: {not a subscriber} Re: {not a subscriber} Re: [HANDLEY-L] William Handley line Date: 9/3/1999 10:13:51 AM Central Daylight Time From: mrgentry@yahoo.com (mr gentry) To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com Carol, I do subscribe to the list. Nancy was right, during the day, I reply from my e-mail address at work, causing it not to recognize me. I will be looking at my file this labor day weekend and get back with you and everyone. Dr. Harry Handley of Lewisburg, W VA, who kept a ton of files on Handley history, was working on the ancestors of William Handley, who came from New Castle County, PA/DE to Virginia. He had some real good theories and leads, but was unable to prove them. A lot of what is written on those ancestors in "post-1 (test)," were among the theories he had. The challenge now, is to find evidence that will prove them. Dr. Handley's sister, Birdie Handley Musser and I use to stay in touch when she was living, through visits to see her, letters and phone calls. She wanted so much to see her brother's theories proven, as he worked many, many years on the Handley ancestry and wanted so much to carry the line back overseas, but did not get that far. Hopefully, this will happen. Mike --- carol ann berry <cedartree2@juno.com> wrote: > Mike, > that would be wonderful!!!we need ALL the help we > can get..can you join > the Handley List if you haven't already.. > carol > >>