I really don't have much. My grandfather's name was John Charles Hanley. He was born in Indiana along with a brother Thomas, and two sisters Edith and Alice. They all eventually ended up in California. Patti Carpenter

HANDLEY-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Subject: > > HANDLEY-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 121 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: [HANDLEY-L] North Carolina: Mo [chipper@mlode.com (Wesley E. Johns] > #2 [Fwd: Re: [HANDLEY-L] North Caroli [chipper@mlode.com (Wesley E. Johns] > #3 [HANDLEY-L] Brothers ["Judy Newland" <judyn@bright.net>] > #4 [HANDLEY-L] Ralph Hanley [User518606@aol.com] > #5 Re: [HANDLEY-L] Brothers [Ellie Handley <ehandley@texas.net>] > #6 [HANDLEY-L] Illinois info ["Judy Newland" <judyn@bright.net>] > #7 [HANDLEY-L] Re:Handley's in New Yo ["Sheila Handley" <handleys@teluspl] > #8 [HANDLEY-L] Re: For Paul Hanly ["Paul Hanly" <PNARH@bigpond.com>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from HANDLEY-D, send a message to > > HANDLEY-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [HANDLEY-L] North Carolina: Molly > Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 01:09:18 -0800 > From: chipper@mlode.com (Wesley E. Johnson) > To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com > > Sftrail@aol.com wrote: > > > > So.... could Mark be a brother of John and William???? > > Nancy Sween > > > > << Sween, > > Molly Handley was married to James Handley, Sr., son of Mark Handley of > > Craven, Dobbs, WayneCo. NC. Most of the spellings for CATER is CATO. > > Mark's first record in NC was about 1740. Dan > > ---------- > > >From: Sftrail@aol.com > > >To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: [HANDLEY-L] North Carolina: Molly > > >Date: Wed, Aug 25, 1999, 10:25 PM > > > > > > > >Found in North Carolina Will Abstracts, 1760-1800 > > > > > >page 317 > > >1795 October, > > > CATER, George, Martha (wife); Molly Handley (daughter). > > > > > >Sween > > > > > >> > alexander , son of James died in 1832 in Washington Co KY. He and his > wife Sara (McElroy) handley Had onnly 3 children James Handley was born > in 1794 and Married sarah Cleaver daughter of David Cleaver and wife > Letitia Griffith, in1816 . James & sarh A cleaver Handley are both > buried in Platte co Mo,. They had 10 children as follows > david a Handlely married Nancy wells and lived in Hart co. William c > Handley M Mary Ermine Embry of Green co and later migrated to Platte Co > Mo . Opps I think I attached this to the worng noe. - some one asked > about David Handley and it might be connceted to his lind . A few dAvids > are show up here, > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [Fwd: Re: [HANDLEY-L] North Carolina: Molly] > Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 01:52:29 -0800 > From: chipper@mlode.com (Wesley E. Johnson) > To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com > > Ellie Handley wrote: > > > > I would say that it is very possible Mark may be a brother of John & William. > > When (East) Tenn., was Washington Co., NC/(East)TN. We had Handley's all in > > that area NC and Tenn. Samuel lived in the NC area and Tenn. > > When Greene Co., came abt. there were Thomas, William, James. John and Samuel, > > Jr. Handley's in that area. > > As far as I can tell, these Handley's have not been connected to Mark? > > Samuel Handley, Sr. b. 1751 may very well be a son of Mark Handley. > > The other Samuel, JR. Capt. is being ID as the son of Samuel, Sr. would not > > been old enought to fight in the Rev. War.? > > There was also a William Handley, captive of the English (Rev War) and helt off > > shore (NC) in a prison ship. > > You can bet all these Handley's tie into one another. > > Ellie > > > > Dan Jackson wrote: > > > > > Nancy, > > > I can't say since the oldest Handley record is for Mark and no other > > > Handleys of that same time frame appear - Not until his sons show up in the > > > records. I've felt that there may be some connection to the John Hanley in > > > Virginia. I just don't know. Dan > > > ---------- > > > >From: Sftrail@aol.com > > > >To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Subject: Re: [HANDLEY-L] North Carolina: Molly > > > >Date: Thu, Aug 26, 1999, 8:47 PM > > > > > > > > > > >So.... could Mark be a brother of John and William???? > > > >Nancy Sween > > > > > > > ><< Sween, > > > > Molly Handley was married to James Handley, Sr., son of Mark Handley of > > > > Craven, Dobbs, WayneCo. NC. Most of the spellings for CATER is CATO. > > > > Mark's first record in NC was about 1740. Dan > > > > ---------- > > > > >From: Sftrail@aol.com > > > > >To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >Subject: [HANDLEY-L] North Carolina: Molly > > > > >Date: Wed, Aug 25, 1999, 10:25 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Found in North Carolina Will Abstracts, 1760-1800 > > > > > > > > > >page 317 > > > > >1795 October, > > > > > CATER, George, Martha (wife); Molly Handley (daughter). > > > > > > > > > >Sween > > > > > > > > > >>I agree with Ellie all these will be related some day. Some way. My great aunt & grandmother both told me that family parties were a big thing with Handleys. > Thats why I am sure that we see so many sister marrying into the Handley > Clan. So take note of Womens last names. You may find them more than > once and they are connceted. Ann > > > > > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [HANDLEY-L] Brothers > Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:43:41 -0400 > From: "Judy Newland" <judyn@bright.net> > To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com > > The Information that I had about the two brothers we knew about, William > went FIRST to NC before coming back and settling in VA. Maybe this is a > clue??? > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [HANDLEY-L] Ralph Hanley > Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:28:39 EDT > From: User518606@aol.com > To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com > > Looking for information on Ralph Hanley born about 1836 in Rochester, New > York. > Died 25 Jun 1925. I know he married Catherine Stacer about 1879 in Indiana. > I believe his father was born in Ireland, but this is all the information > that I have. > > Patti Carpenter > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [HANDLEY-L] Brothers > Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:49:30 -0700 > From: Ellie Handley <ehandley@texas.net> > To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com > > Judy, from what I have seen, three brother (one was father James, so they > say) went south into SC, NC and TNand lived there and returned to VA., I > guess w/va. today. > Nancy remember that info I sent you in the mail, 2 yrs ago? on this very > subject? I think every one has the story abt 3 brothers coming to the new > world. The oldest Bable i can find in the family, was three brothers came > and the families moved out of VA., across country to ILL and some turned and > went south and that is the gang i am from. ha ha. > My 4xGreat Grandfather from east Tenn., i found records where his first 3 > children were b. in ILL. This I found on census records in AL., and Civil > War records on my 3xGreat Grandfather James and his brother William Payton. > They were in the Union Army and living in AL. Ellie > > Judy Newland wrote: > > > The Information that I had about the two brothers we knew about, William > > went FIRST to NC before coming back and settling in VA. Maybe this is a > > clue??? > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [HANDLEY-L] Illinois info > Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:41:22 -0400 > From: "Judy Newland" <judyn@bright.net> > To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com > > I have a cousin in my Handley line - actually cousin to my Dad, who says > his father told him he was named after J Frank Hanley (He is J. Frank > Handley). This particular person was a legislator in early IN, but was > born in ILL. This is getting really wierd! Brings up all kinds of notes > one has made that you thought was in the "useless information pile"! > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [HANDLEY-L] Re:Handley's in New York > Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 00:07:01 -0600 > From: "Sheila Handley" <handleys@telusplanet.net> > To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi Patti > I am looking for Handley's that originated in England and then came to New > York. It seems everyone on this line originates in U.S. or comes from > Ireland. I have connections to a William and Barbara in Brooklyn New York. > What else have you got?? I have been at t his for several years and am > getting frustrated. > Sheila Handley > -----Original Message----- > From: User518606@aol.com <User518606@aol.com> > To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com <HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, August 30, 1999 6:31 PM > Subject: [HANDLEY-L] Ralph Hanley > > >Looking for information on Ralph Hanley born about 1836 in Rochester, New > >York. > >Died 25 Jun 1925. I know he married Catherine Stacer about 1879 in > Indiana. > >I believe his father was born in Ireland, but this is all the information > >that I have. > > > >Patti Carpenter > > > > > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [HANDLEY-L] Re: For Paul Hanly > Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:42:08 +1000 > From: "Paul Hanly" <PNARH@bigpond.com> > To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com > > Thanks for sending me the reference. I was impressed by the way you have > published a facsimile of the original document! > > I am not able to place John Hanly within my family as I cannot get a > definite record of birth/baptism etc in Ireland, but I appreciate your kind > thought. I have taken the liberty of copying this to the Handley list as it > might be more relevant to someone there (see URL below in original message) > > Cheers > Paul Hanly > Rhodes, Sydney, Australia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Colin & Caroline Little <clittle@clubi.ie> > To: <ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 1999 8:48 > Subject: For Paul Hanly > > > Hi Paul > > > > I just noticed that on the birth cert for my Grand Mother there is a John > > Hanly > > mentioned by the registrar, which you can view at > > > > http://www.clubi.ie/clcs/gen/records.htm > > > > > > Don't know if it is any help for you. > > > > > > Colin > > Dear Handleys=== will you please remember that I have a xG/Gf Jeremiah Handley Sr. b/ Ireland d.Jan1825 in Athens Co.Ohio =Son-mine-Jeremiah Jr. b,Va 1791- m Pamela Beers Jan 18 15 Washinton Co. Ohio= d.13 Nov 18 1863 Hartford City indiana-- Blackford Co. Does he connect with all those Handleys you are talking about???? Ruth

Judy, from what I have seen, three brother (one was father James, so they say) went south into SC, NC and TNand lived there and returned to VA., I guess w/va. today. Nancy remember that info I sent you in the mail, 2 yrs ago? on this very subject? I think every one has the story abt 3 brothers coming to the new world. The oldest Bable i can find in the family, was three brothers came and the families moved out of VA., across country to ILL and some turned and went south and that is the gang i am from. ha ha. My 4xGreat Grandfather from east Tenn., i found records where his first 3 children were b. in ILL. This I found on census records in AL., and Civil War records on my 3xGreat Grandfather James and his brother William Payton. They were in the Union Army and living in AL. Ellie Judy Newland wrote: > The Information that I had about the two brothers we knew about, William > went FIRST to NC before coming back and settling in VA. Maybe this is a > clue???

I have a cousin in my Handley line - actually cousin to my Dad, who says his father told him he was named after J Frank Hanley (He is J. Frank Handley). This particular person was a legislator in early IN, but was born in ILL. This is getting really wierd! Brings up all kinds of notes one has made that you thought was in the "useless information pile"!

The Information that I had about the two brothers we knew about, William went FIRST to NC before coming back and settling in VA. Maybe this is a clue???

Thanks for sending me the reference. I was impressed by the way you have published a facsimile of the original document! I am not able to place John Hanly within my family as I cannot get a definite record of birth/baptism etc in Ireland, but I appreciate your kind thought. I have taken the liberty of copying this to the Handley list as it might be more relevant to someone there (see URL below in original message) Cheers Paul Hanly Rhodes, Sydney, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin & Caroline Little <clittle@clubi.ie> To: <ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 1999 8:48 Subject: For Paul Hanly > Hi Paul > > I just noticed that on the birth cert for my Grand Mother there is a John > Hanly > mentioned by the registrar, which you can view at > > http://www.clubi.ie/clcs/gen/records.htm > > > Don't know if it is any help for you. > > > Colin >

Looking for information on Ralph Hanley born about 1836 in Rochester, New York. Died 25 Jun 1925. I know he married Catherine Stacer about 1879 in Indiana. I believe his father was born in Ireland, but this is all the information that I have. Patti Carpenter

Nancy I would like to know about this "Handley book" also ,i wonder if the Mortimer is the author or publisher and "when" published and where did you find, carol

Ellie Handley wrote: > > I would say that it is very possible Mark may be a brother of John & William. > When (East) Tenn., was Washington Co., NC/(East)TN. We had Handley's all in > that area NC and Tenn. Samuel lived in the NC area and Tenn. > When Greene Co., came abt. there were Thomas, William, James. John and Samuel, > Jr. Handley's in that area. > As far as I can tell, these Handley's have not been connected to Mark? > Samuel Handley, Sr. b. 1751 may very well be a son of Mark Handley. > The other Samuel, JR. Capt. is being ID as the son of Samuel, Sr. would not > been old enought to fight in the Rev. War.? > There was also a William Handley, captive of the English (Rev War) and helt off > shore (NC) in a prison ship. > You can bet all these Handley's tie into one another. > Ellie > > Dan Jackson wrote: > > > Nancy, > > I can't say since the oldest Handley record is for Mark and no other > > Handleys of that same time frame appear - Not until his sons show up in the > > records. I've felt that there may be some connection to the John Hanley in > > Virginia. I just don't know. Dan > > ---------- > > >From: Sftrail@aol.com > > >To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [HANDLEY-L] North Carolina: Molly > > >Date: Thu, Aug 26, 1999, 8:47 PM > > > > > > > >So.... could Mark be a brother of John and William???? > > >Nancy Sween > > > > > ><< Sween, > > > Molly Handley was married to James Handley, Sr., son of Mark Handley of > > > Craven, Dobbs, WayneCo. NC. Most of the spellings for CATER is CATO. > > > Mark's first record in NC was about 1740. Dan > > > ---------- > > > >From: Sftrail@aol.com > > > >To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Subject: [HANDLEY-L] North Carolina: Molly > > > >Date: Wed, Aug 25, 1999, 10:25 PM > > > > > > > > > > >Found in North Carolina Will Abstracts, 1760-1800 > > > > > > > >page 317 > > > >1795 October, > > > > CATER, George, Martha (wife); Molly Handley (daughter). > > > > > > > >Sween > > > > > > > >>I agree with Ellie all these will be related some day. Some way. My great aunt & grandmother both told me that family parties were a big thing with Handleys. Thats why I am sure that we see so many sister marrying into the Handley Clan. So take note of Womens last names. You may find them more than once and they are connceted. Ann > > >

Hi Patti I am looking for Handley's that originated in England and then came to New York. It seems everyone on this line originates in U.S. or comes from Ireland. I have connections to a William and Barbara in Brooklyn New York. What else have you got?? I have been at t his for several years and am getting frustrated. Sheila Handley -----Original Message----- From: User518606@aol.com <User518606@aol.com> To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com <HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, August 30, 1999 6:31 PM Subject: [HANDLEY-L] Ralph Hanley >Looking for information on Ralph Hanley born about 1836 in Rochester, New >York. >Died 25 Jun 1925. I know he married Catherine Stacer about 1879 in Indiana. >I believe his father was born in Ireland, but this is all the information >that I have. > >Patti Carpenter > >

Nancy, I would like some more information on the " Handley Family History " by Mortimeyer, Revesz, and Hopkins. Do you have an address to contact to purchase a copy? Thanks. Brian

Sorry. I've been having trouble with my server. Hope is is all right now. I've been receiving mail as of Thursday. Dan ---------- >From: Sftrail@aol.com >To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [HANDLEY-L] Dan Jackson >Date: Sat, Aug 28, 1999, 4:04 PM > >Your mail is bouncing from the Handley-L group. Are you still getting this >list mail? > >Nancy

Nancy: Are you talking to me? Gail? I'm getting mail. -----Original Message----- From: Sftrail@aol.com <Sftrail@aol.com> To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com <HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, August 28, 1999 1:06 PM Subject: [HANDLEY-L] Dan Jackson >Your mail is bouncing from the Handley-L group. Are you still getting this >list mail? > >Nancy >

Your mail is bouncing from the Handley-L group. Are you still getting this list mail? Nancy

I would say that it is very possible Mark may be a brother of John & William. When (East) Tenn., was Washington Co., NC/(East)TN. We had Handley's all in that area NC and Tenn. Samuel lived in the NC area and Tenn. When Greene Co., came abt. there were Thomas, William, James. John and Samuel, Jr. Handley's in that area. As far as I can tell, these Handley's have not been connected to Mark? Samuel Handley, Sr. b. 1751 may very well be a son of Mark Handley. The other Samuel, JR. Capt. is being ID as the son of Samuel, Sr. would not been old enought to fight in the Rev. War.? There was also a William Handley, captive of the English (Rev War) and helt off shore (NC) in a prison ship. You can bet all these Handley's tie into one another. Ellie Dan Jackson wrote: > Nancy, > I can't say since the oldest Handley record is for Mark and no other > Handleys of that same time frame appear - Not until his sons show up in the > records. I've felt that there may be some connection to the John Hanley in > Virginia. I just don't know. Dan > ---------- > >From: Sftrail@aol.com > >To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [HANDLEY-L] North Carolina: Molly > >Date: Thu, Aug 26, 1999, 8:47 PM > > > > >So.... could Mark be a brother of John and William???? > >Nancy Sween > > > ><< Sween, > > Molly Handley was married to James Handley, Sr., son of Mark Handley of > > Craven, Dobbs, WayneCo. NC. Most of the spellings for CATER is CATO. > > Mark's first record in NC was about 1740. Dan > > ---------- > > >From: Sftrail@aol.com > > >To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: [HANDLEY-L] North Carolina: Molly > > >Date: Wed, Aug 25, 1999, 10:25 PM > > > > > > > >Found in North Carolina Will Abstracts, 1760-1800 > > > > > >page 317 > > >1795 October, > > > CATER, George, Martha (wife); Molly Handley (daughter). > > > > > >Sween > > > > > >> > >

Nancy, I can't say since the oldest Handley record is for Mark and no other Handleys of that same time frame appear - Not until his sons show up in the records. I've felt that there may be some connection to the John Hanley in Virginia. I just don't know. Dan ---------- >From: Sftrail@aol.com >To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [HANDLEY-L] North Carolina: Molly >Date: Thu, Aug 26, 1999, 8:47 PM > >So.... could Mark be a brother of John and William???? >Nancy Sween > ><< Sween, > Molly Handley was married to James Handley, Sr., son of Mark Handley of > Craven, Dobbs, WayneCo. NC. Most of the spellings for CATER is CATO. > Mark's first record in NC was about 1740. Dan > ---------- > >From: Sftrail@aol.com > >To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [HANDLEY-L] North Carolina: Molly > >Date: Wed, Aug 25, 1999, 10:25 PM > > > > >Found in North Carolina Will Abstracts, 1760-1800 > > > >page 317 > >1795 October, > > CATER, George, Martha (wife); Molly Handley (daughter). > > > >Sween > > > >> >

OK, I'll be patient about Mark's parentage. One more question about Molly CATER/CATO. The Ancestry.com info said that she married Daniel HANDLEY, and your records show that she married James HANDLEY, Sr. Any idea if this is the same Molly, and if she married both men at different times? Nancy << > Molly Handley was married to James Handley, Sr., son of Mark Handley of > Craven, Dobbs, WayneCo. NC. Most of the spellings for CATER is CATO. > Mark's first record in NC was about 1740. Dan >>

I was hoping you could remove my name from your mailing list. The site isn't what I was looking for. Thank you.

Sftrail@aol.com wrote: > > So.... could Mark be a brother of John and William???? > Nancy Sween > > << Sween, > Molly Handley was married to James Handley, Sr., son of Mark Handley of > Craven, Dobbs, WayneCo. NC. Most of the spellings for CATER is CATO. > Mark's first record in NC was about 1740. Dan > ---------- > >From: Sftrail@aol.com > >To: HANDLEY-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [HANDLEY-L] North Carolina: Molly > >Date: Wed, Aug 25, 1999, 10:25 PM > > > > >Found in North Carolina Will Abstracts, 1760-1800 > > > >page 317 > >1795 October, > > CATER, George, Martha (wife); Molly Handley (daughter). > > > >Sween > > > >> alexander , son of James died in 1832 in Washington Co KY. He and his wife Sara (McElroy) handley Had onnly 3 children James Handley was born in 1794 and Married sarah Cleaver daughter of David Cleaver and wife Letitia Griffith, in1816 . James & sarh A cleaver Handley are both buried in Platte co Mo,. They had 10 children as follows david a Handlely married Nancy wells and lived in Hart co. William c Handley M Mary Ermine Embry of Green co and later migrated to Platte Co Mo . Opps I think I attached this to the worng noe. - some one asked about David Handley and it might be connceted to his lind . A few dAvids are show up here,

<< There were two Moses Handley. One b. abt. 1854, this Moses was of Color. >> Is anyone researching families "of color" with the surname HANDLEY (HANLEY, etc.) after the Civil War? These lines would be good to get documented, too. Nancy Sween http://members.aol.com/Sftrail/handley/