I was misinformed about the alphabet. It is not as secretive as I thought. Can anyone give more info on this so I don't give out the wrong definition. I want to be sure, too. Holly ---------- From: diane epperson <editorz@inreach.com> To: hulaboy@sprintmail.com; HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: secret Deseret alphabet Date: Friday, June 12, 1998 5:17 PM Hi Holly, Now you've peaked my interest. Tell me about the secret Deseret alphabet! Forgive me if this is common knowledge, but I'm not an LDS church member. Tschüss __________________________________________________________ Diane Epperson --from sunny Ocotillo in the flaming Yuha Desert of Southern California editorz@inreach.com "Eala Fria Fresena!" -- "Lever Dod As Slaav!" Researching . . . FLESNER, EBER, BUSS, ELLERMEIER of Illinois aus Deutschland LEWIS, COLEMAN, HART of New Jersey ANDERSEN, EDMISTON, SNOW of Utah . . . und mein rottweiler WORF (canis klingon) ---------- : From: hulaboy <hulaboy@sprintmail.com> : To: HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com : Subject: Re: Re:[HANDCART-L] Re: HANDCART-D Digest V98 #104 : Date: Friday, June 12, 1998 1:03 PM : : My gg-grandfather's journal was donated to the archives (don't know who : donated it) and I was able to hold it in my hands and feel the buck skin : cover. It was wonderful. It didn't do me a bit of good to read it due to : the fact that it is written n the secretive DESERET ALPHABET. He is a bit : of a mystery, anyway, so no one is surprised. I had to prove descendancy : before they would let me see it, which was fine with me. : : Guess what, I happen to live in SLC. I will be more than happy to take : some time and do some lookups or go to the archives for anybody. It may : take me a week or two to get it all together, you know how it goes...the : son's baseball games, part-time job, house, the other two kids, etc... so : just let me know. I plan to go and request a few patriarchal blessings : myself. I've really learned a lot from you wonderful friends! : : Holly Carmichael May : : ---------- : > From: Durfee_Lynda@tmac.com : > To: HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com : > Subject: Re:[HANDCART-L] Re: HANDCART-D Digest V98 #104 : > Date: Friday, June 12, 1998 6:44 AM : > : > The Church Archives are in the Church Office Building off Temple Square. : It is : > behind the Joseph Smith Building (old Hotel Utah). I THINK the hours are : 8:30 - : > 4:30 M-F. I know for sure they close at 4:30, and pretty sure they open : at : > 8:30. Definitely NOT open evenings and weekends. The church history : library is : > on the first floor right as you enter from the plaza. The archives are : on the : > second floor. I'll summarize some of the resources I've used at the : archives : > below, but my experience consists of a few days worth, scattered over : three : > visits on trips to Utah. : > : > The archives does have a computerized catalog, available ONLY at the : archives. : > HOWEVER, this does not include every item. You can search by subject, : author, : > surname, etc., but you don't always find something you know to be there. : Most : > of the computerized catalog is on microfilm. : > : > There is a separate index on microfiche for ward and branch records. You : look : > up the name of the ward/branch, then get a number which refers to a : series. Then : > you need to ask what records are available for that ward/branch (relief : society, : > priesthood quorums, etc.). : > : > There also is a missionary index to find information on the dates and : place of : > service of missionaries, going way back. This is on both film and fiche. : : > : > When you go to the archives, you need to have a clear idea of what you : are : > looking for. You definitely need to know to ask the right question. The : staff : > are very helpful, but if your don't find something, you should ask if : there are : > records not in the catalog in your area of search. You might call first : to ask : > about records and sources. Well worth the cost of a long-distance phone : call. : > : > Good luck. : > : > ____________________Reply Separator____________________ : > Subject: [HANDCART-L] Re: HANDCART-D Digest V98 #104 : > Author: Cballd@aol.com : > Date: 6/11/98 7:49 PM : > : > Could someone please tell me about the church archives. A lot of my Great : > grandfather's papers were donated there years ago. Would I be able to : access : > these? Where are the archives? What hours? What's available? etc. etc. I : hope : > to get down there again this summer. I spent a full hour at the FHL last : month : > while my daughter-in-law walked around temple square, then we got back in : the : > car and continued toward home (Seattle.) : > Thanks for your help, : > Cindy Alldredge : > : > Received: from valhalla.tmac.com (192.206.250.2) by ccmail.tmac.com with : SMTP : > (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 000099BF; Thu, 11 Jun 98 : 19:52:36 : > -0400 : > Received: from fp-1.rootsweb.com (fp-1.rootsweb.com [207.113.233.233]) by : > valhalla.tmac.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA21707 for : > <Durfee_Lynda@tmac.com>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:59:37 -0400 : > Received: (from slist@localhost) : > by fp-1.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA17578; : > Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:55:41 -0700 (PDT) : > Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:55:41 -0700 (PDT) : > From: Cballd@aol.com : > Message-ID: <84b46864.35806d0c@aol.com> : > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:49:31 EDT : > Old-To: HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com : > Mime-Version: 1.0 : > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII : > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit : > X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 : > Subject: [HANDCART-L] Re: HANDCART-D Digest V98 #104 : > Resent-Message-ID: <"1DeECD.A.CJE.n5Gg1"@fp-1.rootsweb.com> : > To: HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com : > Resent-From: HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com : > X-Mailing-List: <HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/741 : > X-Loop: HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com : > Precedence: list : > Resent-Sender: HANDCART-L-request@rootsweb.com : > : ----------