Linda Found John and James on my CD. Family #2 2 in party, same family number for both brothers Looks like the two of them traveled in one party. Information on the Ellen Maria. ELLEN MARIA Ship: 768 tons: 151' x 33' x 17' Built: 1849 by Harrison Springer at Richmond, Maine Three emigrant companies, totaling 1079 Mormons, crossed the Atlantic aboard the square-rigged Ellen Maria. The first voyage began on 2 February 1851 at Liverpool with 378 Mormons on board, including Apostle Orson Pratt and his family who were returning from a mission in Great Britain. Elder George D. Watt presided over the company. Religious services were held several times weekly on shipboard. During the sixty-three-day passage there were four births, five deaths, and three marriages. In general the crossing was pleasant with little sickness. The vessel arrived at New Orleans on 6 April. The Ellen Maria was again chartered for a second voyage with a company of 369 Saints, including 182 financed by the Perpetual Emigrating Fund and a number of returning missionaries. The ship sailed on 10 February 1852 from Liverpool, after being detained for several days by adverse winds. Elder Isaac C. Haight presided over the Saints. During the crossing three babies were born, an elderly woman died, and four marriages were solemnized. After "a pleasant and prosperous" passage of fifty five days the ship arrived on 5 April at New Orleans. On 17 January 1853 the Ellen Maria sailed from Liverpool with her third Mormon company, again after being delayed for several days by contrary winds. Elder Moses Clawson presided over the 332 Saints. The voyage was rough and stormy, especially for the first eight days. Elder Clawson was sick almost the entire crossing. During the forty-eight-day passage there were five deaths, five births, and two marriages. The vessel arrived on 6 March at New Orleans. Captain Amherst Whitmore apparently was master of the Ellen Maria during all three voyages. He was described as a "very kind and considerate man" who treated the "emigrants with all due respect and consideration." This three-masted ship sailed in both the Nesmith & Walsh Line and the White Star Line. Passenger List Sources: (1851) LDS Passenger List (Family History Library) Film: #025,690 (Item 1-15) U.S. Government Passenger List (Family History Library) Film: #200,166 Identification Number on Government Passenger List: #170 Passenger List Sources: (1852) LDS Passenger List (Family History Library) Film: #025,690 U.S. Government Passenger List (Family History Library) Film: #200,169 Identification Number on Government Passenger List: #157 Passenger List Sources: (1853) LDS Passenger List (Family History Library) Film: #025,690 (Item 2-3) U.S. Government Passenger List (Family History Library) Film: #200,173 & 200243 Identification Number on Government Passenger List: (200,173)#061 "There's a mighty big difference between good, sound facts and facts that sound good." Ronald Colby rmcolby@micro-net.com Salt Lake City, Utah Researching the descendants and ancestors of Ezekiel Colby 1739-1791 and Sarah/Sally Fowler 1742-? Visit us at: http://www.parsonstech.com/genealogy/trees/rcolby/colby_ft.htm ---------- > I am seeking information about these brothers, who traveled from > Liverpool to New Orleans and then up river. They were with their > father, perhaps another brother, and wives??? They left Liverpool on 10 > Feb 1852 on the Ellen Maria and arrived in New Orleans on 5 April 1852. > (These dates came from family records and were confirmed via the Mormon > Pioneer Site). I would like to know whether their wives came, what the > names of their party might have been, whether they brought any children > with them and get information about the trip both from Liverpool and to > SLC. Family legend has two stories - one that they went to SLC and one > that they left the party and went directly to California. Any help > would be most appreicated. Linda >