In article <3.0.1.32.19980401231603.00ab8628@vii.com>, Eldon Jensen <jensenet@vii.com> writes >snip > >If anybody has not been helped in the past week or so on a query and would >like some help (or a lookup) from the LDS Family History Suite, holler at >the list. I am not working next week (SPRING VACATION...YAAAYYY!!) so will >have a little time I can look. I learn so much each time I find something >for someone else. One of these days somebody is going to stumble on a >paper, book or something and remember that TERRI was looking for that line! > (I'll cross my fingers ;) > >We have about 200 subscribers here now, so somebody might just be your cousin. > >Terri > >snip Hello All, I replied to the above directly to Terri - who instantly came back with some info and some suggestions - one of which was that I should post my query to the whole group, so here is a repeat of it:- Hi there, Terri I became a subscriber to HANDCART-D at the end of February and have been plucking up courage to 'holler' ever since. Trouble is I feel that my enquiry is a bit too vague to merit your attention! My Brewers, of which I am a (74 yr old) 5th generation representative, start with a John Brewer of Felstead, Essex, England. He was born about 1738, but my enquiry concerns members of my great-grandfather's generation. My great-grandfather was Henry Brewer, b. 1807 at Felstead; d. 1872 Leytonstone Essex. In 1854 he married Sophia (Greenhill). Of their six children, only three reached adulthood. These were William, Henry Joseph and Arthur Edward. Henry Joseph, my grandfather, having married Sophia Ann (Lyne) in 1876, settled in Leytonstone where they raised a large family (14 children - but 3 died in infancy). William, b. 1855, and Arthur, b. 1859, having lost their mother in 1864 and their father in 1872, decided to emigrate as Mormon converts. I don't know exactly when but probably about 1874. William married Lovina (Ellingford) on 25 Jul 1878 at SLC UT (she was an English girl, don't know where or when they met). They settled in Henefer which is where their nine children were born. Arthur married Mary Ann Hardy (Perry) on 21 Apr 1886 at Morgan UT. Mary was b. 24 Apr 1867 at SLC, of British parents. They settled in Morgan which is where their eleven children were born. After WW2, two of their sons, Edward and Raymond Jerome, corresponded with certain Uncles of mine. In Dec 1967, Raymond sent them a set of family history sheets which have provided most of my data. I got a copies of the FHS and two of the letters only last year - long after the deaths of all my Uncles. In the letter covering the FHS, written in fact by Raymond's wife, Ethel (Burke), it says and I quote: "...William Brewer and Arthur Brewer both came here to Utah from Essex England when their parents died. There was an Uncle by the name of Henry Brewer and his wife who also came to Utah. I understand they came across the plains in what is called the handcart company. They didn't have any children but were very good to William and Arthur. This couple is buried up here in Henefer Cemetery by the side of William Brewer and his family." end of quote. That is the background, now at last comes my query. The only Henry in the appropriate generation was my great-grandfather - the father of William and Arthur - not childless, not buried in Utah! He did have a lot of brothers, all of whom were uncles to William and Arthur, and for whom I have birth and death dates, but not places of death. One of these, another William I'm afraid, was born at Felstead 7 Apr 1809 and died 20 Nov 1878. A contact made through BREWER-L (Kathy Willett) has sent me a copy of the following obit: Brewer, William - age 69 emigrated to Utah 1857 d. 1878, 20 Nov, Henneferville, Utah Deseret News 27:204 - 1878 Kathy also sent me this extract from a list of ship's passengers: 1857 - Ship: George Washington (dep. L 28 Mar, arr B 20 Apr - church leader James P. Park) William*, age 48 Jane, age 52 The dates certainly fit my William. Did Ethel get the name wrong when she referred to an uncle called Henry? Was 'Jane' William's wife and they the childless Handcart couple? Or was there another relative that I can't identify? Well that is all I know - is there any way of getting clarification? Any suggestions welcome - you may have seen some posts I have made to BREWER-L also to Gloria Jones's list. Have a good vacation.....love your signature! George (cant think of anything clever myself! :-)) PS. Can anyone put me in touch with a BREWER in Henefer, Morgan or Ogden? -- George Brewer Hayling Island, Hampshire, England.