Terri and everyone While out and about today I picked up a book called "1997-98 Church Almanac" published by the Deseret News It contains a complete list of Ships, where they departed from and where and when they arrived. Also was a list of the Wagon Trains and Handcart Companys. There was a lot of Church History included. I bought my copy a Deseret Book. I checkec their web site and it is still available there. www.deseretbook.com We have had alot of traffic on this subject latelly and thought I would pass this along. "There's a mighty big difference between good, sound facts and facts that sound good." Ronald Colby rmcolby@micro-net.com Salt Lake City, Utah Researching the descendants of John Colby, b. 1633 John Colby, b. 1656