Hello, I wonder if you could help me with information on HENRY PATTEN (IN) born 26.1.1813 Staffordshire England married Ann Clark 22.8.1836. He was the brother of my Gt Grandfather. Parents Edward Patten and Margaret Grant I have found the information on the Ancestral file of descandants but I was hoping to find out the story of Henry's arrival in America and his journey on the trail to Salt Lake City. I really would like to know something of his life and just wondered if it might be documented with other trail pioneers. Also what other questions may be asked on this website. Kind regards Marie NZ

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I have to make an addition to the email that I wrote, requesting help. I failed to mention the following: known children of: ...Abner William Ormsby=Olive Gardner (have no record of this marriage) Twins: William Wallace Ormsby Levi (John) Washington Ormsby ....born No. Amherst, Lorain Co., OH. ....03 Dec 1835 (have no records of these births) Thank you,    Rita Ormsby

I hope someone can help make the connection in my line of search. I have ....Abner William ORMSBEE ....b. 04May1769 Canterbury,Windham,CT mar: Jan 1790, #(1) Cynthia ?? Issue: Abner, b. 12 Nov 1792                Ampana, b. 5 Oct 1794                William, b. 25 July 1796 ....d. 23July1853 E.Smithfield,Bradford,PA I don't know what happened to Ampana... Was told that the mother, and daughter were killed by the Indians on their way to MA. or PA. A child, Ester Armena, was born 24Dec1806..do not know if CT or PA. The next was born 09 Nov 1809, East Smithfield, Bradford, PA., mother was a Rachel TITUS. All children stayed in PA. except:     Abner and William. I have death certificate that says Abner married Olive GARDNER, and their twins, William Wallace Ormsby and Levi (John) Washington Ormsby are found in Mormon church records with their father as William Ormsby, in Utah.    Abner and his family were in a wagon train on way west abt. 1849, and rumor has it, that he was too ill to go on...died near Bloomfield, Illinois or Indiana. Have records of the twins enlisting in the Union Army, Civil War, then William Wallace living out his life in AZ.......I will greatly appreciate your kind help, Rita Ormsby   

I'm a new subscriber and delighted with this list! I have, in my great grandmother's hand, a paper that says, " Divorce August 1892." We have never been sure if it was a true divorce or not. My great grandparents lived in Salt Lake City. I understand that the Salt Lake County Clerk has divorce records from statehood on, but where would I find territorial divorce records? Any ideas? Thanks, Julie

At 12:37 PM 5/10/98 -0700, Earnie &Melanie Glazener wrote: >Thank You Eternally for your reply! > >I have been trying to find THE FAMILY HISTORY SUITE by INFOBASES. I called >APPLETON'S immediately and purchased a copy. This InfoBase is now out of >print, at least that is what the places I have tried to find it in said. >Let us know if anyone knows for sure I lost my phone number of INFOBASES. Almost two years ago, I was given 1-800-537-7823 as the phone number for their sales department. I have no idea if it is still accurate, and I haven't tried to call them. However, I just now checked Infobases' home page (www.infobases.com), and I can find no mention of the Family History Suite listed there. Nor can I find any mention of any family-history-related products listed there at all. >I discovered I have a whole lot of pioneer ancestors and have been told this >is an invaluable resource. Thanks again! I have tons of pioneer ancestors, and I can't begin to tell you how glad I am to have a copy of that CD. I very much regret to hear that it's been discontinued. -- Brian C. Madsen bmadsen@fishnet.net (also brian.madsen@plpt.com) http://www.fishnet.net/~bmadsen/

Thank You Eternally for your reply! I have been trying to find THE FAMILY HISTORY SUITE by INFOBASES. I called APPLETON'S immediately and purchased a copy. This InfoBase is now out of print, at least that is what the places I have tried to find it in said. Let us know if anyone knows for sure I lost my phone number of INFOBASES. I discovered I have a whole lot of pioneer ancestors and have been told this is an invaluable resource. Thanks again! sincerely, Melanie -----Original Message----- From: Eldon & Terri Jensen <jensenet@vii.com> To: Earnie &Melanie Glazener <glazeners@email.msn.com>; HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com <HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, May 09, 1998 4:20 PM Subject: LDS Infobases >Hi Melanie: > >BTW....I like your name. Same as my oldest daughter's name ;) > >On the LDS Infobases Ancestral Quest cd package.....the company is based in >Bountiful, Utah. They are a publishing company (of course) and worked >towards making a windows compatible genealogy program that was fully PAF >compatible. They did it! > >Then to make the package even better, they purchased the copywrites of >quite a few books to use on the cd itself. When you request from the >company the 'password' to open the remainder of your cd you will find that >there are many books on Pioneer history included. The one that is just >terrific is PIONEERS AND PROMINENT MEN OF UTAH. This book was compiled in >the 1920's and has PICTURES!! There are several terrific reference books >included, such as THE SOURCE. This book alone costs $50.00 and the whole >package from Ancestry is $50.00. > >Copywrites are violated if you give more than 10% of the total information >in the book. Usually it is fine to look up a 'name'. Whenever I use the >cd to help other's with their research, I encourage them to purchase the >whole package. Basically, I think that those of us on the list who have >the cd are probably the best 'unpaid' advertisers for the whole package ;) > >If anyone wants to order this, I just received my new Appleton's catalog >today. This company has so many cds to offer. I KNOW that the Ancestry.com >site is only offering the new package of Ancestral Quest, and it doesn't >include as much information. The one in the Appleton's catalog is still >the 'old' version with all the goodies. > >This is the info if anyone is interested.... >page 13 of their catalog >LDS FAMILY HISTORY SUITE---Infobases >#24-755 - Windows -------------------------------$49.95 >A CD with six products in one geared towards the Mormon genealogist! It >contains Ancestral Quest v 2.0, the Ancestry Reference Library, the Pioneer >Heritage Library, the LDS Vital Records Library, the Geographic Reference >Library, and the World Wide Family History Network (aka Ancestry.com). >Infobases describes it as 'the complete solution for LDS family history and >genealogy research'. > >The World Wide Family History Network is no longer 'that' name. It is now >known as Ancestry.com and you can find this on-line at http://ancestry.com > >The number for the company is >800-777-3601 > >You can also order on-line at http://www.appletons.com with a VISA/Mastercard > >This is NOT an advertisement for the company. But, this company is one >that I KNOW has this cd package many of you are seeking. (Media Play in >Utah is another) I KNOW this is one of the best things to help Pioneer >genealogists and was given to us for a purpose. I don't have anything to do >with either Infobases, Ancestry, or Appleton's except being a customer and >a very satisfied one. > >Terri > >At 11:22 AM 5/9/98 -0700, Earnie &Melanie Glazener wrote: >>I am new to computer genealogy. I must have deleted the original message >>after I printed a copy of it. So please forward this message to VWAters if >>you can. Thank you. >> >>I may have hit the beginnings of a mothers load of information on your ZENOS >>WINGET. I am unsure, due to copyright laws, how to proceed. I have a CD, >>by Infobases, containing early LDS church membership records. These records >>were compiled by Susan Eastman Black. They must have scanned a book she has >>written. It's called MEMBERSHIP OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY >>SAINTS: 1830- 1848. It was included in Infobases; THE LDS COLLECTORS >>LIBRARY 1997 as a bonus disk. They had permission from the LDS Church to >>include it. >> >>A search of the database brought up your ZENOS WINGET, his two wives, his >>father CYRUS WINGET and family, a brother ALPHONZO WINGET and family, a >>sister MELVINA or MALVINA. I am sure you could find even more information. >>Ms. Black has documented very well her resouces. You will have additional >>places to look. >> >>Good Luck and hope this helps, >>Sincerely, >> Melanie Glazener >>glazeners@msn.com >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Ronald Colby <rmcolby@micro-net.com> >>To: HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com <HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Friday, May 08, 1998 3:19 PM >>Subject: Re: [HANDCART-L] Zenos Winget >> >> >>>Don't have any information persay on Winget >>>Looked up the Winget surname in the Southern Utah 1996 phone book. >>>There is 7 familie in Monroe, Utah and 4 familie in Richfield, Utah >>>This could give you a place to start making contacts. >>> >>>"There's a mighty big difference between good, >>>sound facts and facts that sound good." >>> >>>Ronald Colby >>> rmcolby@micro-net.com >>> >>>Salt Lake City, Utah >>> >>>Researching the descendants and >>>ancestors of >>>Ezekiel Colby 1739-1791 and >>>Sally Fowler 1742-? >>> >>> >>>---------- >>>> Trying to trace Zenos Winget, b june 29, 1842, Nauvoo, Hncck County, >>>> Illinoise. D june 22, 1907, Monroe, Sevier County, Utah. Married nov >>20, >>>> 1885, St George, Washington County, Utah to Eliza Roxey Squire. She was >>b feb >>>> 1, 1865, Manti, Snpt County, Utah. D april 10, 1943, Monroe, Sevier >>County, >>>> Utah. Had Six children: Luther b1886 d1973 >>>> Adelia b1888 d1940 >>>> Emeritt b1890 d1912 >>>> Glen b1893 d1967 >>>> Colista b1896 >>>> Newel b1899 d1969 >>>> Will appreciate any possible information and i thank you one and all in >>>> advance. >>>> >>>> VWATERS972@aol >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>

Ardis. This may be your ancestor. I looked his name up on the LDS COLLECTOR"S LIBRARY 1997 bonus Disk by INFOBASES. There may be others listed INFOBASES got their information from a book "MEMBERSHIP OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS 1830-1848" compiled by Susan Eastman Black. She works at Brigham young University in their religion department. I have found this disk to be very helpful in finding out my pioneer ancestors. This information may also be on their new edition, I am not sure. I also don't know how much I can e-mail from the disk. What are the copyrights surrounding this type of information? Hope to be more helpful! Melanie Taylor, Stephen (Male) Birth: Taylor, Stephen (Male) Date: July 1, 1794 Place: Scipio, Cayuga, NY, USA Parents: Taylor, Stephen (Male) Father: Taylor, Zeeb Mother: Taylor, Lydia Death: Taylor, Stephen (Male) Date: October 1, 1865 Place: Ft. Laramie, Laramie, WY, USA Alternate Date: After 1852 Alternate Date: After 1854 Alternate Place: on LDS mission to the Eastern States Marriage Information: Taylor, Stephen (Male) Spouse: Tifft, Sophronia Date: 1825 Children: Taylor, Stephen (Male) Name: Birthdate: Place: 1. Taylor, Cyrenus Henry July 30, 1826 Elba, Genesee, NY, USA Marriage Number 2 Taylor, Stephen (Male) Spouse: Barr, Patty Marriage 2 Children: Name: Birthdate: Place: 1. Taylor, John 1832 of Elba, Genesee, NY, USA Marriage Number 3 Taylor, Stephen (Male) Spouse: Turner, Martha Date: Before December 1832 Marriage 3 Children: Name: Birthdate: Place: 1. Taylor, Augusta Camilla January 28, 1834 Elba, Genesee, NY, USA 2. Taylor, Lora Ann December 101836-7 Elba, Genesee, NY, USA 3. Taylor, Joseph Orsen July 8, 1841 Elba, Genesee, NY, USA 4. Taylor, Jared January 26, 1845 Elba, Genesee, NY, USA Church Ordinance Data: Taylor, Stephen (Male) Baptism Date: August 1, 1838 Temple Ordinance Data: Taylor, Stephen (Male) Endowment Date: March 13, 1852 Temple: Endowment House, Salt Lake City, UT, USA Sealed to Spouse Number 2 Date: March 13, 1852 Temple: Endowment House, Salt Lake City, UT, USA Sealed to Spouse Number 3 Date: March 13, 1852 Temple: Endowment House, Salt Lake City, UT, USA -----Original Message----- From: AEParshall <AEParshall@aol.com> To: HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com <HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, May 09, 1998 9:02 PM Subject: [HANDCART-L] Stephen TAYLOR/Martha TURNER >My pioneer ancestors were Stephen Taylor (1794-1864?) and Martha Turner >(1803-1848). They came west with Brigham Young's 1848 company; Martha died >of measles at the Elkhorn River. We've found some good material in the >Huntington diaries, but I wonder if some of you with your CD resources might >turn up some other mentions? > >Other family members, all surnamed Taylor, were Cyrenus, Jared, Orson, Lora >Ann, and Camilla Augusta. > >After a short stay in Salt Lake, the Taylors moved down to Manti. I've found >Stephen on some militia muster lists, and he was part of Pratt's Exploring >Company scouting out southern Utah. He is *not* the Stephen Taylor that was >one of the rescuers of the Martin and Willie companies, nor is he related in >any way that we can tell to Pres. John Taylor. Haven't really found much >trace of him in Utah, which is a shame because he was the first member of my >family to join the Church, in 1838. > >Stephen went back east on a mission, and never made it back to Utah. Family >tradition has it that he died at or near Fort Laramie, but we've never found >anything to document that. I think the family really did know at the time, >because there is no hint of any mystery about a disappearance, but it would be >nice to find something to mark his death. > >Thanks for checking your sources for Stephen, Martha, and the children. > >Ardis >AEParshall@aol.com >

Would just like to wish all the mothers a VERY HAPPY MOTHERS DAY "There's a mighty big difference between good, sound facts and facts that sound good." Ronald Colby rmcolby@micro-net.com Salt Lake City, Utah Researching the descendants and ancestors of Ezekiel Colby 1739-1791 and Sarah/Sally Fowler 1742-?

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Hi David: Welcome to our list. We are pretty much a friendly helping bunch here ;) If you would give us some specifics on your Pioneers, perhaps there is somebody who could find them for you. I know we have many members here who are generous with their time and efforts. In fact, the genealogy of Joseph Smith has been submitted to the list just this spring. You can find it in the archives or the original poster will probably forward it on to you. Let us know when you get it. If you don't, I have most of the digests for quite sometime and can go back and find it for you. Give us some dates and let's have some fun! Not 'date' wise, but ancestor wise ;) Terri At 11:37 PM 5/9/98 -0400, David C. Kravetz wrote: >I know that this is probably not the proper line to write to about this, but >perhaps some of you might have this information-- > >I am looking for the genealogy of Joseph Smith, preferably back four to five >generations. I am curious as to his lineage and roots. > >I am new to this list and look forward to sharing information concerning >SHEPHERD, BATEMAN, POULSEN, MARTIN, etc.--all in my wife's line, though I >don't know how many were actually handcart, I do know that some of them came >across the plains and eventually settled in Alpine, UT and Bear Lake, ID >areas.. > >Cheers, > >David Kravetz >Nicholasville, KY > > >

Melanie, Just thought I would let you know that Ancestral Quest version 2.1 is very good. It has too many changes and aditiontion from version 2 to mention here. They are all listed on their web page http://www.ancquest.com . You can order directly from them if you like, or by compter, phone (1-800), or by mail. I like that it is so easy to use without much difficulty. I hardly ever get out the manual that came with it. Please feel free to contact me if you have any specific question about the program and I will try to answer them for you. Bye for now. Genealogically yours, Alison Forte <mailto:fortea@cadvision.com> Researching: Dudley, Ferrara, Forte, Thomas ...snip... > LDS FAMILY HISTORY SUITE---Infobases > #24-755 - Windows -------------------------------$49.95 > A CD with six products in one geared towards the Mormon genealogist! It > contains Ancestral Quest v 2.0, the Ancestry Reference Library, > the Pioneer > Heritage Library, the LDS Vital Records Library, the Geographic Reference > Library, and the World Wide Family History Network (aka Ancestry.com). > Infobases describes it as 'the complete solution for LDS family > history and > genealogy research'. > > The World Wide Family History Network is no longer 'that' name. It is now > known as Ancestry.com and you can find this on-line at http://ancestry.com > > The number for the company is > 800-777-3601 > > You can also order on-line at http://www.appletons.com with a > VISA/Mastercard > > This is NOT an advertisement for the company. But, this company is one > that I KNOW has this cd package many of you are seeking. (Media Play in > Utah is another) I KNOW this is one of the best things to help Pioneer > genealogists and was given to us for a purpose. I don't have > anything to do > with either Infobases, Ancestry, or Appleton's except being a customer and > a very satisfied one. > > Terri > > At 11:22 AM 5/9/98 -0700, Earnie &Melanie Glazener wrote: > >I am new to computer genealogy. I must have deleted the original message > >after I printed a copy of it. So please forward this message to > VWAters if > >you can. Thank you. ...snip...

I know that this is probably not the proper line to write to about this, but perhaps some of you might have this information-- I am looking for the genealogy of Joseph Smith, preferably back four to five generations. I am curious as to his lineage and roots. I am new to this list and look forward to sharing information concerning SHEPHERD, BATEMAN, POULSEN, MARTIN, etc.--all in my wife's line, though I don't know how many were actually handcart, I do know that some of them came across the plains and eventually settled in Alpine, UT and Bear Lake, ID areas.. Cheers, David Kravetz Nicholasville, KY

My pioneer ancestors were Stephen Taylor (1794-1864?) and Martha Turner (1803-1848). They came west with Brigham Young's 1848 company; Martha died of measles at the Elkhorn River. We've found some good material in the Huntington diaries, but I wonder if some of you with your CD resources might turn up some other mentions? Other family members, all surnamed Taylor, were Cyrenus, Jared, Orson, Lora Ann, and Camilla Augusta. After a short stay in Salt Lake, the Taylors moved down to Manti. I've found Stephen on some militia muster lists, and he was part of Pratt's Exploring Company scouting out southern Utah. He is *not* the Stephen Taylor that was one of the rescuers of the Martin and Willie companies, nor is he related in any way that we can tell to Pres. John Taylor. Haven't really found much trace of him in Utah, which is a shame because he was the first member of my family to join the Church, in 1838. Stephen went back east on a mission, and never made it back to Utah. Family tradition has it that he died at or near Fort Laramie, but we've never found anything to document that. I think the family really did know at the time, because there is no hint of any mystery about a disappearance, but it would be nice to find something to mark his death. Thanks for checking your sources for Stephen, Martha, and the children. Ardis AEParshall@aol.com

Hi Melanie: BTW....I like your name. Same as my oldest daughter's name ;) On the LDS Infobases Ancestral Quest cd package.....the company is based in Bountiful, Utah. They are a publishing company (of course) and worked towards making a windows compatible genealogy program that was fully PAF compatible. They did it! Then to make the package even better, they purchased the copywrites of quite a few books to use on the cd itself. When you request from the company the 'password' to open the remainder of your cd you will find that there are many books on Pioneer history included. The one that is just terrific is PIONEERS AND PROMINENT MEN OF UTAH. This book was compiled in the 1920's and has PICTURES!! There are several terrific reference books included, such as THE SOURCE. This book alone costs $50.00 and the whole package from Ancestry is $50.00. Copywrites are violated if you give more than 10% of the total information in the book. Usually it is fine to look up a 'name'. Whenever I use the cd to help other's with their research, I encourage them to purchase the whole package. Basically, I think that those of us on the list who have the cd are probably the best 'unpaid' advertisers for the whole package ;) If anyone wants to order this, I just received my new Appleton's catalog today. This company has so many cds to offer. I KNOW that the Ancestry.com site is only offering the new package of Ancestral Quest, and it doesn't include as much information. The one in the Appleton's catalog is still the 'old' version with all the goodies. This is the info if anyone is interested.... page 13 of their catalog LDS FAMILY HISTORY SUITE---Infobases #24-755 - Windows -------------------------------$49.95 A CD with six products in one geared towards the Mormon genealogist! It contains Ancestral Quest v 2.0, the Ancestry Reference Library, the Pioneer Heritage Library, the LDS Vital Records Library, the Geographic Reference Library, and the World Wide Family History Network (aka Ancestry.com). Infobases describes it as 'the complete solution for LDS family history and genealogy research'. The World Wide Family History Network is no longer 'that' name. It is now known as Ancestry.com and you can find this on-line at http://ancestry.com The number for the company is 800-777-3601 You can also order on-line at http://www.appletons.com with a VISA/Mastercard This is NOT an advertisement for the company. But, this company is one that I KNOW has this cd package many of you are seeking. (Media Play in Utah is another) I KNOW this is one of the best things to help Pioneer genealogists and was given to us for a purpose. I don't have anything to do with either Infobases, Ancestry, or Appleton's except being a customer and a very satisfied one. Terri At 11:22 AM 5/9/98 -0700, Earnie &Melanie Glazener wrote: >I am new to computer genealogy. I must have deleted the original message >after I printed a copy of it. So please forward this message to VWAters if >you can. Thank you. > >I may have hit the beginnings of a mothers load of information on your ZENOS >WINGET. I am unsure, due to copyright laws, how to proceed. I have a CD, >by Infobases, containing early LDS church membership records. These records >were compiled by Susan Eastman Black. They must have scanned a book she has >written. It's called MEMBERSHIP OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY >SAINTS: 1830- 1848. It was included in Infobases; THE LDS COLLECTORS >LIBRARY 1997 as a bonus disk. They had permission from the LDS Church to >include it. > >A search of the database brought up your ZENOS WINGET, his two wives, his >father CYRUS WINGET and family, a brother ALPHONZO WINGET and family, a >sister MELVINA or MALVINA. I am sure you could find even more information. >Ms. Black has documented very well her resouces. You will have additional >places to look. > >Good Luck and hope this helps, >Sincerely, > Melanie Glazener >glazeners@msn.com >-----Original Message----- >From: Ronald Colby <rmcolby@micro-net.com> >To: HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com <HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Friday, May 08, 1998 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: [HANDCART-L] Zenos Winget > > >>Don't have any information persay on Winget >>Looked up the Winget surname in the Southern Utah 1996 phone book. >>There is 7 familie in Monroe, Utah and 4 familie in Richfield, Utah >>This could give you a place to start making contacts. >> >>"There's a mighty big difference between good, >>sound facts and facts that sound good." >> >>Ronald Colby >> rmcolby@micro-net.com >> >>Salt Lake City, Utah >> >>Researching the descendants and >>ancestors of >>Ezekiel Colby 1739-1791 and >>Sally Fowler 1742-? >> >> >>---------- >>> Trying to trace Zenos Winget, b june 29, 1842, Nauvoo, Hncck County, >>> Illinoise. D june 22, 1907, Monroe, Sevier County, Utah. Married nov >20, >>> 1885, St George, Washington County, Utah to Eliza Roxey Squire. She was >b feb >>> 1, 1865, Manti, Snpt County, Utah. D april 10, 1943, Monroe, Sevier >County, >>> Utah. Had Six children: Luther b1886 d1973 >>> Adelia b1888 d1940 >>> Emeritt b1890 d1912 >>> Glen b1893 d1967 >>> Colista b1896 >>> Newel b1899 d1969 >>> Will appreciate any possible information and i thank you one and all in >>> advance. >>> >>> VWATERS972@aol >>> >> >> > > > >

I am new to computer genealogy. I must have deleted the original message after I printed a copy of it. So please forward this message to VWAters if you can. Thank you. I may have hit the beginnings of a mothers load of information on your ZENOS WINGET. I am unsure, due to copyright laws, how to proceed. I have a CD, by Infobases, containing early LDS church membership records. These records were compiled by Susan Eastman Black. They must have scanned a book she has written. It's called MEMBERSHIP OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS: 1830- 1848. It was included in Infobases; THE LDS COLLECTORS LIBRARY 1997 as a bonus disk. They had permission from the LDS Church to include it. A search of the database brought up your ZENOS WINGET, his two wives, his father CYRUS WINGET and family, a brother ALPHONZO WINGET and family, a sister MELVINA or MALVINA. I am sure you could find even more information. Ms. Black has documented very well her resouces. You will have additional places to look. Good Luck and hope this helps, Sincerely, Melanie Glazener glazeners@msn.com -----Original Message----- From: Ronald Colby <rmcolby@micro-net.com> To: HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com <HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, May 08, 1998 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [HANDCART-L] Zenos Winget >Don't have any information persay on Winget >Looked up the Winget surname in the Southern Utah 1996 phone book. >There is 7 familie in Monroe, Utah and 4 familie in Richfield, Utah >This could give you a place to start making contacts. > >"There's a mighty big difference between good, >sound facts and facts that sound good." > >Ronald Colby > rmcolby@micro-net.com > >Salt Lake City, Utah > >Researching the descendants and >ancestors of >Ezekiel Colby 1739-1791 and >Sally Fowler 1742-? > > >---------- >> Trying to trace Zenos Winget, b june 29, 1842, Nauvoo, Hncck County, >> Illinoise. D june 22, 1907, Monroe, Sevier County, Utah. Married nov 20, >> 1885, St George, Washington County, Utah to Eliza Roxey Squire. She was b feb >> 1, 1865, Manti, Snpt County, Utah. D april 10, 1943, Monroe, Sevier County, >> Utah. Had Six children: Luther b1886 d1973 >> Adelia b1888 d1940 >> Emeritt b1890 d1912 >> Glen b1893 d1967 >> Colista b1896 >> Newel b1899 d1969 >> Will appreciate any possible information and i thank you one and all in >> advance. >> >> VWATERS972@aol >> > >

Don't have any information persay on Winget Looked up the Winget surname in the Southern Utah 1996 phone book. There is 7 familie in Monroe, Utah and 4 familie in Richfield, Utah This could give you a place to start making contacts. "There's a mighty big difference between good, sound facts and facts that sound good." Ronald Colby rmcolby@micro-net.com Salt Lake City, Utah Researching the descendants and ancestors of Ezekiel Colby 1739-1791 and Sally Fowler 1742-? ---------- > Trying to trace Zenos Winget, b june 29, 1842, Nauvoo, Hncck County, > Illinoise. D june 22, 1907, Monroe, Sevier County, Utah. Married nov 20, > 1885, St George, Washington County, Utah to Eliza Roxey Squire. She was b feb > 1, 1865, Manti, Snpt County, Utah. D april 10, 1943, Monroe, Sevier County, > Utah. Had Six children: Luther b1886 d1973 > Adelia b1888 d1940 > Emeritt b1890 d1912 > Glen b1893 d1967 > Colista b1896 > Newel b1899 d1969 > Will appreciate any possible information and i thank you one and all in > advance. > > VWATERS972@aol >

Sailed-1862 Port Ship Leader People Landed Apr. 9 Hamburg Humboldt H.C. Hansen 323 New York Apr. 15 Hamburg Franklin Chas. A. Madsen 413 New York Apr. 18 Hamburg Electric S. Christoffersen 336 New York Apr. 23 Liverpool John J. Boyd J.S. Brown 701 New York Apr. 25 Hamburg Athenia O.N. Liljenquist 484 New York May 6 Liverpool Manchester J.D.T. McAllister 76 New York May 14 Liverpool Wm. Tappscott Wm. Gibson 808 New York May 15 Havre Windermere S.L. Ballif 110 New York May 18 Liverpool Antarctic W.C. Moody 38 New York Misc. Liverpool 8 Departure-1862 Date Captain People Arrival Florence, Nebraska June 17 Lewis Brunson 212 Aug. 29 Florence, Nebraska July Jas. Wareham 250 Sept. 26 Florence, Nebraska July 14 C.A. Madsen 264 Sept. 23 Florence, Nebraska July 14 O.N. Liljenquist 250 Sept. 23 Florence, Nebraska July 22 Homer Duncan 500 Sept. 24 Florence, Nebraska July 28 John R. Murdock 700 October Florence, Nebraska July 28 James S. Brown 200 Oct. 2 Florence, Nebraska July 29 Joseph Horne 570 Oct. 1 Florence, Nebraska July 30 Isaac Canfield 125 abt. Oct. 16 Florence, Nebraska August Ansel P. Harmon 500 abt. Oct. 5 Florence, Nebraska Aug. 8 Henry W. Miller 665 abt. Oct. 17 Florence, Nebraska August Horton D. Haight 650 abt. Oct. 19 Florence, Nebraska Aug. 14 William H. Dame 150 Oct. 29 In this year's emigration of nearly six thousand men; women, and children who had accepted the teachings of the Latter-day Saint missionaries in their respective lands, were converts from the British Isles, the Scandinavian countries, Switzerland and Germany. Others [p.268] from the eastern states also joined the great emigration westward. The Civil War was in progress and the demand for every mode of transportation and needed supplies was continually increasing, especially in Florence, Nebraska, one of the bustling frontier towns. The arrival and departure of organized companies, under the direction of the Church, starting across the plains added to the problem. Some of the Saints were financially able to make the trip through to the valley while others were aided wholly or partially by the Perpetual Emigrating Fund. Upon their arrival in Utah the emigrants received temporary care in the homes of relatives and friends until they were settled in places of their own. Each of the incoming companies strengthened and extended the settlements within Utah's vast territory. Sailed-1863 Port Ship Leader People Landed Apr. 30 Liverpool John J. Boyd Wm. W. Cluff 763 New York May 8 Liverpool B.S. Kimball H. P. Lund 654 New York May 8 Liverpool Consignment A. Christensen 38 New York May 23 Liverpool Antarctic J. Needham 483 New York May 30 Liverpool Cynosure D.M. Stuart 754 New York June 4 London Amazon Win. Brainall 882 New York Miscellaneous 72 Departure-1863 Date Captain People Arrival Florence, Nebraska June 29 John R. Murdock 275 Aug. 29 Florence, Nebraska June 6 John F. Sanders 250 abt. Sept. 5 Florence, Nebraska June 30 A.H. Patterson 200 Sept. 4 Florence, Nebraska July 6 John R. Young 200 abt. Sept. 12 Florence, Nebraska July 9 Wm. B. Preston 300 Sept. 10 Florence, Nebraska July 25 Peter Nebeker 500 Sept. 25 Florence, Nebraska Aug. 6 Daniel D. McArthur 500 Oct. 3 Florence, Nebraska Aug. 6 Horton D. Haight 200 abt. Oct. 4 Florence, Nebraska Aug. 9 John W. Woolley 200 Oct. 4 Florence, Nebraska Aug. 10 Thomas E. Ricks 400 abt. Oct. 4 Florence, Nebraska Aug. 11 Rosel Hyde 300 abt. Oct. 13 Florence, Nebraska Aug. 14 Samuel D. White 300 abt. Oct. 15 Captain Patterson's company, independent as called in contradistinction to the Church trains, arrived Friday, the 4th inst., in the afternoon, on the Public Square 8th Ward, and on Saturday, about the same time in the day, Captain Sanders' company, Church train arrived. The cattle in both trains were quite poor, indicating that they had seen hard times in crossing the plains. Sailed-1864 Port Ship Leader People Landed Apr. 28 Liverpool Monarch of John Smith 974 New York the Sea May 21 Liverpool Gen. McClellan Thos. E. Jeremy 802 New York June 3 London Hudson John M. Kay 863 New York Misc. Liverpool 58 Departure-1864 Date Captain People Arrival Wyoming, Nebraska June 25 John D. Chase 85 Sept. 20 Wyoming, Nebraska June 29 John R. Murdock 78 abt. Aug. 26 Wyoming, Nebraska July 8 Wm. B. Preston 400 Sept. 15 Wyoming, Nebraska July 15 Jos. S. Rawlins 400 Sept. 20 Wyoming, Nebraska July John Smith 150 abt. Oct. 1 Wyoming, Nebraska July 19 Wm. S. Warren 400 abt. Oct. 4 Wyoming, Nebraska July 27 Isaac A. Canfield 211 abt. Oct. 5 Wyoming, Nebraska Aug 9 William Hyde 350 Oct. 26 Wyoming, Nebraska August Warren S. Snow 400 abt. Nov. 2 Captain W. S. Warren telegraphed, on the 19th, from South Pass: "My train passed this point at 10 o'clock this morning. All well. Captain Canfield is probably near the South Pass." Captain Rawlins' train arrived on the 20th of September in fine condition and passengers well. Sailed-1865 Port Ship Leader People Landed Apr. 29 Liverpool Belle Wood Wm. H. Shearman 636 New York May 8 Hamburg B.S. Kimball A.W. Winberg 558 New York May 10 Liverpool D. Hoadley Wm. Underwood 24 New York Misc. Liverpool 83 New York Departure-1865 Date Captain People Arrival Wyoming, Nebraska July 31 Miner G. Atwood 400 Nov. 8 Wyoming, Nebraska Aug. 12 Henson Walker 200 abt. Nov. 9 Wyoming, Nebraska Aug. 12 Wm. W. Willis 200 abt. Nov. 29 The first company of this season's immigration left the frontiers on the 31st of July, composed of about 400 souls, mostly Scandinavian, with Elders M. G. Atwood, Captain; Charles B. Taylor, Assistant Captain; A. W. Winberg, Chaplain, and John Swenson, Commissary. This company was passed by Elder T. Taylor, on the Platte, about 150 miles this side of Nebraska, where it was getting along nicely. The second company, of about 200 souls started on the 12th of August with Elders Henson Walker, Captain and Robert Pixton, Chaplain. The third company, likewise of about 200 souls, also started on the 12th of August, Elders Win. W. Willis, Captain, and F. W. Cox, Chaplain. "These two companies are expected to travel together for protection to each other, and are mostly English with a few American families. Elders George Sims and Alfred Lee started in the last company with a mule team, but they calculate to overtake and pass the first company before it reaches this city." Sailed-1866 Port Ship Leader People Landed Apr. 30 Liverpool John Bright C.M. Gillett 747 New York May 5 London Caroline S.H. Hill 389 New York May 23 London Am. Congress John Nicholson 350 New York May 25 Hamburg Kenilworth Sam L. Sprague 684 New York May 30 Liverpool Arkwright J.C. Wixom 450 New York May 30 London C. Grinnell R. Harrison 26 New York June 1 Hamburg Cavour N. Nielsen 201 New York June 2 Hamburg Humboldt Geo. M. Brown 328 New York June 6 Liverpool St. Mark A. Stevens 104 New York Miscellaneous 56 Departure-1866 Date Captain People Arrival Wyoming, Nebraska July 6 Thomas E. Ricks 251 Sept. 4 Wyoming, Nebraska July 7 Samuel D. White 230 Sept. 5 Wyoming, Nebraska July 13 Wm. H. Chipman 375 abt. Sept. 15 Wyoming, Nebraska July 19 John D. Holladay 350 Sept. 25 Wyoming, Nebraska Aug. 4 Peter Nebeker 400 Sept. 29 Wyoming, Nebraska July 25 Daniel Thompson 500 Sept. 29 Wyoming, Nebraska Aug. 2 Daniel S. Rawlins 400 Oct. 1 Wyoming, Nebraska Aug. 8 Andrew H. Scott 300 Oct. 8 Wyoming, Nebraska August Horton D. Haight 20 Oct. 15 Wyoming, Nebraska Aug. 8 Abner Lowry 300 Oct. 22 On Monday October 8, 1866, Captain Andrew H. Scott's ox train, which had started from Wyoming, Nebraska, August 8th, with forty-nine wagons and about three hundred immigrants, arrived at Great Salt Lake City. About thirty of the immigrants died on the journey. Captain Horton D. Haight's train of sixty-five wagons, bringing the wire for the Deseret Telegraph Company, arrived in the Salt Lake City on Monday the 15th. Sailed-1867 Port Ship Leader People Landed June 21 Liverpool Manhattan Arch N. Hill 482 New York Misc. Liverpool 178 New York Departure-1867 Date Captain People Arrival North Platte Aug. 8 Leonard G. Rice 500 abt. October "The counsel which was also given at Conference, to the people to donate means to send for their poor co-religionists in England, came home to the minds of all present as timely and heaven-inspired. The Spirit bore testimony to it. From the feeling already manifested upon this subject we are justified in expecting a hearty response on the part of the Saints. The counsel should call forth a spirited effort. The object to be accomplished is worthy of the attention and exertions of a great people. It is but a few years since we ourselves came here, weary and destitute fugitives from oppression. Subsequent immigration has not added many rich men to our numbers. But we are united. In union we are rich. The emigration, therefore, of so large a number of poor people, as now await in England their deliverance from Babylon, would show to the world what can be accomplished by a united people under the guidance of wise leadership. Everyone, however humble and poor, can do something towards carrying this counsel into effect." ùDeseret News, Nov. 20, 1867 Sailed-1868 Port Ship Leader People Landed June 4 Liverpool John Bright James McGaw 722 New York June 20 Liverpool Emerald Isle H. Jensen Hals 876 New York June 24 Liverpool Constitution Harvey H. Cluff 457 New York June 30 Liverpool Minnesota John Party 534 New York July 14 Liverpool Colorado Wm. B. Preston 600 New York Misc. Liverpool 43 Departure-1868 Date Captain People Arrival Laramie, Wyoming July 25 Chester Loveland 400 Aug. 20 Laramie, Wyoming July 25 Joseph S. Rawlins 300 Aug. 20 Laramie, Wyoming July 27 John R. Murdock 600 Aug. 19 Laramie, Wyoming July 27 Horton D. Haight 275 abt. Aug. 19 Laramie, Wyoming Aug, 1 Wm. S. Seeley 272 Aug. 29 Benton, Wyoming Aug. 13 Simpson A. Molen 300 Sept. 2 Benton, Wyoming Aug. 14 D. D. McArthur 411 Sept. 2 Benton, Wyoming Aug. 24 John Gillespie 500 Sept. 15 Benton, Wyoming Aug. 31 John G. Holman 650 abt. Sept. 25 Benton, Wyoming Sept. 1 E.T. Mumford 250 Sept. 24 On Monday, February 17th, Hiram B. Clawson and William C. Staines, who had been appointed Church emigration agents this season, left Salt Lake City for the East, with $27,000 to be used for the gathering of the poor. This year about $70,000 was raised for the emigration of the poor Saints, mainly from Great Britain, an extra effort being made on the part of the Saints in Utah for that purpose. A company of sixty-one immigrants, who had been left from some of the companies, in New York, because of sickness, arrived in Salt Lake City, in charge of Fred C. Anderson, having left New York October 3, 1868. ---------- > Hello. I am looking for information as to the company and date of my great > grandfather William George COLE and his wife Sarah and family, including my > grandfather Erastus Moroni COLE, their youngest child crossing from New York > City > where thay landed from the SS AMOZAN (Spelling ??) out of LONDON in June > or July 1863. > > Can exchange additional family history. > > AGC777@aol.com >

ANYONE WANTING THIS IN ONE COMPLETE PLEASE E-MAIL ME AND I WILL SEND YOU THE COMPLETE TEXT IN ONE SHOT Over twelve hundred converts in eight organized companies, two of them handcart companies, arrived in the valley during the month of September. They found the Saints much concerned over the possibility of another exodus. Sailed-1858 Port Ship Leader People Landed Jan. 21 Liverpool Underwriter Henry Harriman 25 New York Feb. 17 Liverpool Empire Jesse Hobson 64 New York Mar. 22 Liverpool John Bright Iver N. Iverson 90 Misc. Liverpool Misc. 50 New York Departure-1858 Date Captain People Arrival Iowa City, Iowa June 8 Horace S. Eldredge 39 July 9 Iowa City, Iowa June 9 Russell K. Homer 60 Oct. 6 Florence, Nebraska July Iver N. Iverson 90 Sept. 20 Emigration from the European countries was relatively small during 1858, because of the continuance of unsettled conditions in the territory, brought about by the presence of Johnston's army in their midst. Four chartered vessels sailed from Liverpool carrying two-hundred and twenty-nine converts, while only three organized companies, totalling one hundred and eighty-nine Saints, made the journey from the eastern states to the Valley. The Civil War was being agitated and rumors of an impending conflict between the North and the South added still another hazard to traveling across the plains. With the companies were missionaries, some from Europe. Canada, and the eastern states, as well as the Islands of the Sea who had been called from their various fields of labor to aid in the defense of their homes. This was the year of the Move South, and the long awaited adjustment of difficulties between the Church leaders, the citizenry of Utah, and the United States government. Sailed-1859 Port Ship Leader People Landed Apr. 11 Liverpool Wm. Tappscott Robert F. Neslen 725 New York July 10 Liverpool Antarctic Jas. Chaplow 30 New York Aug. 20 Liverpool Emerald Isle Henry Hug 54 New York Departure-1859 Date Captain People Arrival Florence, Nebraska June 9 *George Rowley 225 Sept. 4 Florence, Nebraska June 13 James Brown, III 387 Aug. 29 Florence, Nebraska June Horton D. Haight 154 Sept. 1 Florence, Nebraska June 28 Robert F. Neslen 380 Sept. 15 Florence, Nebraska June 26 Edward Stevenson 285 Sept. 16 As soon as peace had been restored in Utah Territory following the Johnston army episode and local affairs began to assume normal conditions, the edict against emigration of European Saints to the Valley was recalled and instructions were sent out that the way was again open for the "gathering of Israel." Late in the summer of 1858, President Young wrote Elder Asa Calkin, president of the European Mission, that considerable emigration to the valley was expected in 1859, although it was not the intention of the Church authorities to operate through the Perpetual Emigrating Fund. The President announced that the Church would establish its business agency in Chicago, instead of St. Louis, and that perhaps another agency would be opened in Iowa. This change was done with a view of escaping dangers of fevers and epidemics generally so prevalent in the more southern latitudes. The reopening of emigration was hailed with delight by the European Saints, but as most of them were poor only eight hundred and nine sailed for America that year. Of these fifty-four were P. E. Fund emigrants, who, together with one hundred and ninety-six others, expected to cross the plains with handcarts that season; one hundred and forty-nine were to make the overland journey with teams. The remainder intended to stop in the states temporarily, not having the means to go on to Utah; but through the kindness of fellow passengers, in better financial condition, many more were enabled to reach the valley in 1859. Sailed-1860 Port Ship Leader People Landed Mar. 30 Liverpool Underwriter James D. Ross 594 New York May 11 Liverpool Wm. Tappscott Asa Calkin 731 New York Misc. Liverpool 84 New York Departure-1860 Date Captain People Arrival Florence, Nebraska June 6 *Daniel Robinson 235 Aug. 27 Florence, Nebraska July 6 *Oscar O. Stoddard 126 Sept. 24 Florence, Nebraska May 30 Warren Walling 160 Aug. 9 Florence, Nebraska June 17 James D. Ross 249 Sept. 3 Florence, Nebraska June 19 Jesse Murphy 279 Aug. 30 Florence, Nebraska June 15 John Smith 359 Sept. 1 Florence, Nebraska July 20 William Budge 400 Oct. 5 Florence, Nebraska July 3 John Taylor 123 Sept. 17 Florence, Nebraska July 23 Joseph W. Young 100 Oct. 3 Florence, Nebraska June Franklin Brown 60 abt. Aug. 27 On October 6, 1860, Brigham Young addressed the Saints in the Tabernacle: "The handcart system has been pretty well tried; and if the handcart companies start in proper season and manage properly, I will venture to say that most of them can come in that way more pleasantly than they generally come with wagons. But drawing their provisions, etc., is a hard task, and it would be more satisfactory if we could manage it, to bring in wagons the freight and those who are unable to walk. We now contemplate trying another plan. If we can go with our teams to the Missouri River and back in one season, and bring the poor, their provisions, etc., it will save about half the cash we now expend bringing the Saints to this point from Europe. It now costs, in cash, nearly as much as their teams, wagons, handcarts, cooking utensils, provisions, etc., for their journey across the plains as it does to transport them to the frontiers. We can raise cattle without an outlay of money and use them in transporting the Saints from the frontiers and such freight as we may require. Brethren and sisters, save your fives, tens, fifties, a hundred dollars, or as much as you can until next springùand send your money, your cattle and wagons to the states, and buy your goods and freight with them. Twenty dollars expended in this way will do as much good as several times that amount paid to the stores here..." In 1860 the handcart period in Utah's history was brought to a close. There were now nearly sixty thousand Saints in the valley and nearly every one had acquired a home, land, livestock and poultry. Sailed-1861 Port Ship Leader People Landed Apr. 16 Liverpool Manchester C.V. Spencer 380 New York Apr. 23 Liverpool Underwriter Milo Andrus 624 New York May 16 Liverpool Monarch of Jabez Woodard 955 New York the Sea Departure-1861 Date Captain People Arrival Florence, Nebraska May 29 David H. Cannon 225 Aug. 16 Florence, Nebraska June 7 Job Pingree 150 Aug. 2 Florence, Nebraska June 20 Peter Ranck 100 Sept. 8 Florence, Nebraska June 25 Homer Duncan 258 Sept. 13 Florence, Nebraska June 30 Ira Eldredge 300 Aug. 22 Florence, Nebraska July Milo Andrus 620 Sept. 12 Florence, Nebraska July Thomas Woolley 150 Sept. 17 Florence, Nebraska July 9 Joseph Home 350 Sept. 13 Florence, Nebraska July 13 Samuel A. Woolley 338 Sept. 22 Florence, Nebraska July John R. Murdock 500 Sept. 12 Florence, Nebraska July 11 Joseph W. Young 300 Sept. 23 Ansel P. Harmon-Included in Jos. W. Young Company Heber P. Kimball-Included in Jos. W. Young Company Florence, Nebraska July 16 Sixtus E. Johnson 200 Sept. 27 Several independent companies came this year. With the realization of an imminent conflict between the North and the South, President Brigham Young immediately made plans for bringing to Utah the many Saints who had crossed the ocean in [p.267] 1861, and those who through lack of funds, were waiting in the East. The preceding spring Joseph W. Young had been sent to the Missouri River for the purpose of bringing both converts and needed supplies to the valley in the same season. The success of the Church train experiment of the previous year was pointed to as justifying the expectation that such a plan was practicable. In addition to the four yoke of cattle to the wagon, the plan also included the sending of as many loose oxen to Florence as the year's immigration that came independent of Church aid might want to purchase for their outfit; thus supplying for the people of Utah a market for their surplus cattle and a saving for the Church members from ten to thirty thousand dollars, which had hitherto been paid out yearly in cash for cattle and wagons. Moreover, the arrangement afforded the opportunity of shipping eastward such products as the community had to dispose of, mostly surplus cattle that could be driven down loose with the ox trains, and the provisions of flour and meat that could be sent for the use of the immigrants, and deposited along the line of travel, to be picked up en route when returning. Full instructions were given in the circular sent out by the presidency and nothing essential to the security and efficiency of the trains was overlooked.