Hi All; The COLBY Clan Assoc will hold it's 45th annual reunion in East Orange, VT on 15 Aug 1998. All descendants of Anthony and Susannah (_____) COLBY are invited to attend. Registration and welcome coffee time is 9:00 am to 11:45am, followed by luncheon and business meeting. Luncheon tickets are :adults $7.50, children $4.00. Please reserve luncheon tickets not later than 1 Aug 1998. Anthony COLBY arrived at Boston, Massachusetts Bay Company in 1630 with the Winthrop Fleet. It is beleived that all COLBYs (in all spellings) are descendants of Anthony. It is requested family group sheets be sent for your COLBY's to be included in our database. Information will be shared. for details contact: Adeline S. Stack 26 Coolidge Ave. So. Portland, ME. 04106 Phone (207) 799-1648 or contact Wilson H. Roberts 641 N. 68th Ln. #94 Phoenix, AZ 85043 Phone (602)936-8362 willr@netzone.com "There's a mighty big difference between good, sound facts and facts that sound good." Ronald Colby rmcolby@micro-net.com Salt Lake City, Utah Researching the descendants and ancestors of Ezekiel Colby 1739-1791 and Sarah/Sally Fowler 1742-? Visit us at: http://www.parsonstech.com/genealogy/trees/rcolby/colby_ft.htm

John In checking my Emigrant Roster CD I find two Edward Edwards both on the same ship. 1849 237-1 one person age 37 1849 239-3 party of 3 age 28 They were on the ship Buena Vista Other Edward Edwards were found in 1855 then 1861 Could they have came at a later date? Hope this helps. BUENA VISTA Ship: 547 tons: 141' x 29' x 15' Built: 1848 at Newburyport, Massachusetts With 249 Welsh Saints aboard, the full-rigged Buena Vista sailed out of Liverpool harbor on 25 February 1849. Elder Dan Jones presided over the company. He was one of the most successful Mormon missionaries and had been a close friend of Joseph Smith. Master of the vessel was Captain Eben H. Linnell. Thomas Jeremy, one of the emigrants, gave this description of the voyage: "We had fine weather and fair wind every day. Indeed it was much more a pleasure trip than I expected. In one part of the ship musicians were playing while in other parts, good books were being read and studied. Others were conversing about our country and success of the Gospel in Wales. We held prayer meetings nearly every night instead of family prayer." After this uneventful passage, the ship arrived at New Orleans on 19 April. The company continued up the Mississippi and Missouri rivers to Council Bluffs, but many of the Saints suffered with cholera. Hailing out of Boston, Massachusetts, the Buena Vista was a two-decker with a square stern and billethead. This three-master plied the seas for forty-one years. She was later rigged as a bark and hailed out of Port Townsend, Washington, where she was condemned and sold in 1889. Passenger List Sources: LDS Passenger List (Family History Library) Film: #025,690 (Item 1-1) U.S. Government Passenger LIst (Family History Library) Film: #200,161 Identification Number on U.S. Government Passenger List: #205 "There's a mighty big difference between good, sound facts and facts that sound good." Ronald Colby rmcolby@micro-net.com Salt Lake City, Utah Researching the descendants and ancestors of Ezekiel Colby 1739-1791 and Sarah/Sally Fowler 1742-? Visit us at: http://www.parsonstech.com/genealogy/trees/rcolby/colby_ft.htm ---------- > > I am trying to find info on my gggggg grandfather. His name was Edward > Edwards and he married Elizabeth Thomas on October 21, 1820 banns. > > I am looking for information regarding two things. I know from has marriage > certificate there was a William Edwards and a Mary Richards who were the > witnesses. Any clue as to how to find out who his parents were? > > Second, I know they Edward Edwards and Elizabeth Thomas and their children > joined the LDS church in the fall of 1848. Then they traveled to America > between 1848 and 1850. Can anyone lend a hand in finding out what ship they > may have crossed the sea on? > > Thank you all! > > John Edwards > >

Holly try this web site for some information there is a handcart roster on it andi found my Rees family. It gve a new insite to the kids and their name so i got to merge four kids and made two out of them. http://www.vii.com/!nelsonb/pioneer.htm Jackie hulaboy wrote: > Hi evrybody!! I am thrilled to have found you! I don't know why I didn't > think to look for you earlier! > > My wonderful grandmother, during her lifetime, did a great deal of > genealogy for both her's and granpa's side. Guess what...no one knows > where it is! I do have lots of names and dates but I am wanting to put > together more of a history. > > On the BULLOCK side I know that they came from ,(Warwick?), England to > The US and joined with the Saints. I have no date. These I do > have...Henry BULLOCK b. 02 Jun 1835, Offchurch, Warrick, England d. 15 > Dec 1913 Providence, Cache, Utah > spouse... Sarah GRIFFIN b. 1841 Walsall, Stafford, England d. 1899 > Providence, Cache, Utah > > child...Henry Homer BULLOCK b. 1867 Millcreek, Utah > married Mary Ann CAMPBELL b. 1875 Providence, Cache, Utah > > Mary Ann's family, I believe, were also handcart pioneers. > > her parents...Joseph Hyrum CAMPBELL b. 1837 Kirtland, Lake, Ohio > d. 1925 Providence, Cache, Utah > Elizabeth MATHEWS b. 1845 Wales > d. 1916 Cache, Utah > > More CAMPBELLS... Benoni b. 1823 Pennsylvania > d. 04 Jul 1850 Winter > Quarters > sp. Mary LEONARD b. 1802 NY > d. 30 Jun 1830 On > Plains, Nabraska > > I know this is getting lengthy, but if any one can tell me what companies > they were with and if there are any journals or anything else that would > give me some history I would be so grateful. > > I am here in SLC, Ut so if yu just want to tell me shere to look at the > library I can find it there. > > Thanks to all... Holly Carmichael May

Hi evrybody!! I am thrilled to have found you! I don't know why I didn't think to look for you earlier! My wonderful grandmother, during her lifetime, did a great deal of genealogy for both her's and granpa's side. Guess what...no one knows where it is! I do have lots of names and dates but I am wanting to put together more of a history. On the BULLOCK side I know that they came from ,(Warwick?), England to The US and joined with the Saints. I have no date. These I do have...Henry BULLOCK b. 02 Jun 1835, Offchurch, Warrick, England d. 15 Dec 1913 Providence, Cache, Utah spouse... Sarah GRIFFIN b. 1841 Walsall, Stafford, England d. 1899 Providence, Cache, Utah child...Henry Homer BULLOCK b. 1867 Millcreek, Utah married Mary Ann CAMPBELL b. 1875 Providence, Cache, Utah Mary Ann's family, I believe, were also handcart pioneers. her parents...Joseph Hyrum CAMPBELL b. 1837 Kirtland, Lake, Ohio d. 1925 Providence, Cache, Utah Elizabeth MATHEWS b. 1845 Wales d. 1916 Cache, Utah More CAMPBELLS... Benoni b. 1823 Pennsylvania d. 04 Jul 1850 Winter Quarters sp. Mary LEONARD b. 1802 NY d. 30 Jun 1830 On Plains, Nabraska I know this is getting lengthy, but if any one can tell me what companies they were with and if there are any journals or anything else that would give me some history I would be so grateful. I am here in SLC, Ut so if yu just want to tell me shere to look at the library I can find it there. Thanks to all... Holly Carmichael May

I just thought I would send you the only one I have. If you want to climb the COVEY tree, just ask. Bill Covey Fort Smith, Arkasnsas Watson Is Where It Wuz Family Group Report - 7 Jun 1998 ———————————————————————————————————————— Husband: William Burris ———————————————————————————————————————— ———————————————————————————————————————— ———————————————————————————————————————— Wife: Sarah Ann Covey ———————————————————————————————————————— Birth: 16 Apr 1827 Father: James Covey (1803-1847) Mother: Eliza Wells (1803-1918) ———————————————————————————————————————— Last Modified: 19 May 1998 ---------- > From: squid@exec.tscnet.com > To: HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HANDCART-L] Burris family wanted!

Steve, I am not a scriptorian but I bet there are some here who are. However, I do have the big book on hand called, 'Mormon Doctrine'. It has the reply you are seeking. If anybody is quicker than I am and can answer Steve first, please feel free to do so. I will go downstairs and dust off the book ;Z) I plan to reply to Steve privately, so if anyone else would like a copy of what I type in from the book, don't hesitate to holler at me. Terri At 04:59 PM 6/6/98 -0700, Steve Anderson wrote: >While I am not a church member, I do have relatives who are. I am >using the Family History Center nearby for genealogy research. I was >somewhat surprized to find that many of the volunteers are not LDS >members, hence unable to answer questions which might link genealogy, >FHC resources, church belief/practice & terminology. >Would someone on the list provide me the terminology for the church >belief/practice regarding baptism, marriage for those who are dead? >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > Regards, > Steve Anderson, Huntington Beach, CA > sanderson@net999.com > > > >

Thanks Diane, All Rootsweb lists have the same instructions. To sub to the list just send a message to LISTNAME-L-Request@rootsweb.com with 'subscribe' in the 'subject' part and 'subscribe' in the message part. Try to remember to leave off any signature lines you have. That's it. To unsub, just use the same listname with 'unsubscribe' instead of 'subscribe'. So, for the Handcart list the address would be HANDCART-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If any of you prefer the digest mode, then just send the message to Handcart-D instead of Handcart-L (also the same for any rootsweb list). Have a good day everybody! Terri At 03:53 PM 6/6/98 -0700, diane epperson wrote: >Hello all, > >I am forwarding this message that I received on my Ships list. Since I >didn't get a mirror post on the Handcart list, I assume this party is not >subscribed. I know there are people here with emigration ship information. > >Could someone (Terri?) send him the subscription instructions? I only have >the old "maiser" info, which has been changed to rootsweb. In fact, I also >would like to have the new FAQ for subscribing/unsubscribing. > >Tschüss >__________________________________________________________ >Diane Epperson >--from sunny Ocotillo in the flaming Yuha Desert of Southern California >editorz@inreach.com > >

While I am not a church member, I do have relatives who are. I am using the Family History Center nearby for genealogy research. I was somewhat surprized to find that many of the volunteers are not LDS members, hence unable to answer questions which might link genealogy, FHC resources, church belief/practice & terminology. Would someone on the list provide me the terminology for the church belief/practice regarding baptism, marriage for those who are dead? -------------------------------------------------------------------- Regards, Steve Anderson, Huntington Beach, CA sanderson@net999.com

Hello all, I am forwarding this message that I received on my Ships list. Since I didn't get a mirror post on the Handcart list, I assume this party is not subscribed. I know there are people here with emigration ship information. Could someone (Terri?) send him the subscription instructions? I only have the old "maiser" info, which has been changed to rootsweb. In fact, I also would like to have the new FAQ for subscribing/unsubscribing. Tschüss __________________________________________________________ Diane Epperson --from sunny Ocotillo in the flaming Yuha Desert of Southern California editorz@inreach.com "Eala Fria Fresena!" -- "Lever Dod As Slaav!" Researching . . . FLESNER, EBER, BUSS, ELLERMEIER of Illinois aus Deutschland LEWIS, COLEMAN, HART of New Jersey ANDERSEN, EDMISTON, SNOW of Utah . . . und mein rottweiler WORF (canis klingon) ---------- : From: John Edwards <jb2u@vegasnet.net> : To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com : Subject: [TSL] Edward Edwards & Elizabeth Thomas : Date: Tuesday, June 08, 2027 12:02 PM : : I am looking for assistance on finding information on my GGGGGG Grandfather : Edward Edwards & his wife Elizabeth Thomas. They joined the Mormon church : in the fall of 1848 when they lived in Methry Tidvil Wales. : : Sometime betwee 1848 and 1849 they and their children, Edward, John, Mary, : and Ann, left Wales for America. I am lookingo for information about what : ship they may have traveled on to get to America. : : I appreciate any assistance that you may be able to give to me. : : Thank You, : : : John Edwards : : : : ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== : TheShipsList Digest's On-Line at: : http://www.cimorelli.com/ShipsList/digest/ : TheShipsList Searchable Archives Database : http://www.chignecto.net/website/cwa/wa-shipslist.nsf : *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* : : : : : : : : :

Hello all, I want to thank all of you that came to my rescue....what a swell bunch of people!! I thank you all for your help, and I have found a dear person that is going to help me in getting to my local FHC. I do want to apologize for sniveling...unusual for me, and I wish the best for you all. Rita

Did you check the Crossing the Ocean Index since William Richards came from England? The Family History Library has a set of microfilm rolls of indices from Mormon emigrant ships from the late 1840s up to the early 1900s. These films are essentially 3x5 index cards that have been placed in alphabetical order, then filmed. There is a card for each single or family, with name of ship and year, port of departure and arrival port. Once you have found an index card for your ancestor, then you can go to the actual ship's register (another microfilm set). The registry give age, occupation and a local address for each group. The local address is not always a family member; sometimes it is the local Mormon agent. There is a similar index, nicknamed "Crossing the Plains Index." This covers handcart and wagon companies from 1847 until the completion of the railroad in 1869. This index was created from the official lists of companies from the Journal History of the Church. Most of the lists came from the Deseret News. The list was published even before the company arrived, so friends and family could go out to meet the new arrivals, often helping them from Bear River over the mountains into the valley. The cards have only names, ages, name of company and year. SOMETIMES, also the name of the ship if they came from Europe. The film numbers for both set of indices and the ships registers can be found by searching the FHL catalog via a locality search for Utah as a state, then scrolling down topics to find Emigration and Immigration. THESE TWO INDICES SHOULD BE USED AS A START FOR ANYONE WITH PIONEER ANCESTRY. While they are not perfect, you will find about 90% plus of pioneer ancestors in one or both of these indices (both if emigrated from Europe). After all, they didn't get to the valley by starship transporters!! The 1900 census is another source of emigration information for foreign-born saints. Look in the columns for year of immigration, number of years in US and naturalization. The year may not be 100% accurate (especially if the person immigrated as a child), but it is a good start. Early Utah ward records sometimes have information on birth, parents, etc. You will have to check the FHL catalog under the locality, then church records. If you can find the person in a ward record in the early 1900s, you'll get even more info. I've looked at ward records going back to the early 1860s, but SLC records go back to the beginning. There are also ward records for Nauvoo. Another source is the IGI. Many who were baptized in Great Britain show up on the ward/branch records transcribed by Minnie Margetts a long time ago. Also marriages performed in the Endowment House are in the IGI. You need special permission to view the actual Endowment House records on microfilm; photocopying is not allowed, and you can only look at the record of a direct ancestor. I don't remember whether these films can be loaned to local FHCs. Hope this helps. P.S. Richards is also a common Welsh surname. ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: [HANDCART-L] William Richards Author: appomattoxway@lgcy.com Date: 6/5/98 9:20 AM Does anyone have information or connections to: William Richards born in England came to Utah in 1879-80 at the age of 26 William married 31 Jul 1880, Salt Lake City, to: Elizabeth Georgina Cook b 30 Nov 1863 Bankstown, Australia William and Elizabeth were divorced by 1891. William's birth and parentage is the missing link to these children: John William Richards b 1 Mar 1883, Salt Lake City, Utah d 28 Jun 1960, Missoula, Montana George Vivian Richards b 10 Jun 1885, Park City, Utah d 10 Dec 1948, Missoula, Montana Samuel Willard Richards b 7 Sep 1886, Salt Lake City, Utah d 21 Feb 1894, Salt Lake City, Utah Henry Bernard Richards b 27 Nov 1889, Missoula, Montana d 21 Mar 1891, Missoula, Montana I really need your help. I have searched hard through vital records and now hope that family information might surface. What became of William after the family separation is not known. The boys were raised by their stepfather, Charles Crawshaw. However, the boys must have had some contact with their father as two pictures I have state: Dear Papa, Merry Christmas. Another picture states: Dear Uncle Isaac. William might have had a brother named Isaac. Thank your for your consideration of this information. Sherry Smith Received: from valhalla.tmac.com (192.206.250.2) by ccmail.tmac.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 00005E72; Fri, 5 Jun 98 11:13:27 -0400 Received: from fp-1.rootsweb.com (fp-1.rootsweb.com [207.113.233.233]) by valhalla.tmac.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA13545 for <Durfee_Lynda@tmac.com>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:19:42 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by fp-1.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA23110; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35780CCA.F8DD60A2@lgcy.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 09:20:43 -0600 From: "David D. 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Does anyone have information or connections to: William Richards born in England came to Utah in 1879-80 at the age of 26 William married 31 Jul 1880, Salt Lake City, to: Elizabeth Georgina Cook b 30 Nov 1863 Bankstown, Australia William and Elizabeth were divorced by 1891. William's birth and parentage is the missing link to these children: John William Richards b 1 Mar 1883, Salt Lake City, Utah d 28 Jun 1960, Missoula, Montana George Vivian Richards b 10 Jun 1885, Park City, Utah d 10 Dec 1948, Missoula, Montana Samuel Willard Richards b 7 Sep 1886, Salt Lake City, Utah d 21 Feb 1894, Salt Lake City, Utah Henry Bernard Richards b 27 Nov 1889, Missoula, Montana d 21 Mar 1891, Missoula, Montana I really need your help. I have searched hard through vital records and now hope that family information might surface. What became of William after the family separation is not known. The boys were raised by their stepfather, Charles Crawshaw. However, the boys must have had some contact with their father as two pictures I have state: Dear Papa, Merry Christmas. Another picture states: Dear Uncle Isaac. William might have had a brother named Isaac. Thank your for your consideration of this information. Sherry Smith

At 11:03 PM 6/4/98 -0700, ~Rita ~ wrote: >Can you provide a shut-in with an address to write to the Temple for >information on my husband's ancestors? I am always so willing to give >out every last bit of info. I have searched for, but then that is the >last that I hear from them. Kinda hurts! I know that I have to do as I >always have, and that is to send for and pay for the records that I >want. Please help. Thank you, Rita > > > Rita, The LDS Temples cannot supply you with the information on your ancestors. They only provide the opportunity of having the ordinances done for the living and the dead through proxies. Even the Family History Library in Salt Lake City can't do the research for you, they are just too busy. We have a couple of genealogists on this list that would be willing to help you with your research request I am sure. If you don't get a response from anyone to help you out, holler back and I am sure you will. Also, if your ancestors were pioneers (here to Utah prior to 1869) give us their names, dates, other info and we will see if we can help you out by other means. Terri

Can you provide a shut-in with an address to write to the Temple for information on my husband's ancestors? I am always so willing to give out every last bit of info. I have searched for, but then that is the last that I hear from them. Kinda hurts! I know that I have to do as I always have, and that is to send for and pay for the records that I want. Please help. Thank you, Rita

Hello everyone, I have now returned home from a holiday in Australia where the shops are wonderful and climate is warmer than here at the moment. I am seeking my relations and descandants from Henry and Ann Patten (sometimes spelled 'in') they arrived on the Arkwright in 1866 George Patten was also with them. I would dearly like to contact my American Relations and exchange information. Henry was my Grandmother Clara Lousia's Uncle. Clara married Frederick James Rudge and they arrived in NZ in 1892. This list is wonderful as it due to joining Handcart I found out the ship and date of arrival. Thank you to those who have help, have offered and anyone out there who may be able to send information my way. Kind regards Marie Auckland NZ

Thanks Kristin I hope that helps out a least a few of you on the list ;) Terri At 11:34 PM 5/31/98 MST, Kristin Kinder wrote: >While visiting Salt Lake City this weekend, I found 12 copies of the >Family History Suite!! I, of course, bought one so now there are 11 >left. They are located at Wal-Mart in Taylorsville on 5400 South and >Redwood Road in the Electronics department. They are on an endcap with >a bunch of clearance software back by the TVs. They are $59.97 each. > >Hope any of you that want one, can drop in and pick yours up! > >Kristin >Phoenix, Arizona > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >

While visiting Salt Lake City this weekend, I found 12 copies of the Family History Suite!! I, of course, bought one so now there are 11 left. They are located at Wal-Mart in Taylorsville on 5400 South and Redwood Road in the Electronics department. They are on an endcap with a bunch of clearance software back by the TVs. They are $59.97 each. Hope any of you that want one, can drop in and pick yours up! Kristin Phoenix, Arizona ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Looking for info on Jesse Clark Baldwin, born 1886, Beaver, Beaver County, Utah. Wife Adelia Winget, born 1888, Monroe, Sevier County, Utah. Had seven children. Would appreciate any thing you have. Thanks!!!! VWATERS972

As I said before, the 4 copies of Family History Suite I found went quickly. However, I ran across 3 more copies in another small computer store here. Again it is a small store that never did stock too many copies so they don't discount them as much as the larger stores did. They want $69.95 and I'll be happy to mail one to anyone who is interested. Sandi Wheelwright wheelwrt@cache.net

Lynda, I would like a copy of your list. It did not come to my Juno address, it won't take attachments. If you could please send it to <trechaser@aol.com> Thank you so much. Peggy On Tue, 26 May 1998 18:34:34 -0400 Durfee_Lynda@tmac.com writes: >Please be advised that the lists of handcart companies on the Pioneer >Heritage >CD-ROM have many errors. The lists are published in the DUP series. >Many >descendants "added" their ancestors to the list who DID NOT belong >there. For >example, the list for the 9th HC Company lists Isaac C. Morris and >Sarah >Henderson, his wife. He emigrated in 1853 and she did in 1852. They >had a son >who married a daughter of Daniel Robison, captain of the 9th HC >company. I've >done extensive research on this company if anyone else wants a copy of >my list. > >The most reliable starting point are the lists published in the back >of >"Handcarts to Zion" by Leroy & Ann Hafen. This is available in >paperback at the >Church Museum of History & Art in SLC and at Deseret Book stores. >This lists >came from the official lists turned in by HC company captains and are >part of >the Journal History of the church. While some of the company lists >are sketchy >(I think the 6th has only a handful of names), I don't believe there >are any >people ON these lists who don't belong there. They should be used as >a starting >point for research. If you have ancestors NOT on these lists who ARE >on the DUP >list, I would not accept that as a fact without thorough research. >I've come >across various biographical/autobiographical sketches for one woman on >the DUP >list for the 9th HC company, and sometimes it says she came in 1860 >with "a >handcart company" and in other places they came with a wagon company. >I think >it was the latter. > >As a further note, there are MANY errors in Pioneers and Prominent Men >of Utah. >I was advised early on in my research that this is not a very reliable >source. >For instance, according to PPMU, one of Daniel Robison's brothers came >with the >10th HC company, although he is on the official list for the 9th! In >fact, >Daniel's parents and all of his brothers and sisters and their >families (with >one exception), emigrated with the 9th. The exception was a sister >whose >husband could afford a wagon, but they all came out from Pennsylvania >to >Florence together. > >Lyndia Carter of Springville, Utah is in the process of publishing her >book on >the Willie & Martin handcart companies. I haven't talked to her in a >while, so >I don't know where or when it will be published, but I expect it will >be >available in SLC area bookstores when it is. [I won't put her address >and phone >number here without asking her for permission first.] > >My annotated list of the 9th company is attached as a word file. > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]