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    1. [HANDCART-L] Teeples 1803
    2. Ronald Colby
    3. George Bentley Teeples b. March 17 1803 was married 7 times Wife one: Huldah Colby know who this lady is Wife two: Joanna Case Warden does anyone have anything on her Wife three: Eunice Colby would like to know who this lady is and her ancestry. George, Huldah and Joanna had some children born at Fort Supply. Did a little checking and found some info on Fort Supply FYI Fort Supply Fort Supply was a temporary settlement of the Saints located between Willow Creek and Smith's Fork of Green River in what is now known as Unita County, Wyoming, but which at that time was called Green River County, Utah. The fort was 12 miles south of Fort Bridger. In 1853 Apostle Orson Hyde was called by the Church Authorities to take a number of families and locate a settlement on Green River or on one of the tributaries of that stream for the purpose of raising grain which could be turned into flour for the benefit of the incoming Latter-day Saints. It was done as an experiment, for if wheat could be raised in that high altitude, and food thus provided for the emigrants, it would save hauling flour and other necessities from Salt Lake City east to meet the emigrant companies. Two distinct companies were called to settle near Fort Bridger. The first left Salt Lake City November 2, 1853, in charge of Capt. John Nebeker and the second left November 16, 1853, under the leadership of Capt. Isaac Bullock. The two companies joined forces and located a settlement which they called Fort Supply on Willow Creek, a tributary of Smith's Fork of Green River, about two miles above the confluence of Smith's Fork and Willow Creek. These pioneers built houses and made other improvements at once and raised their first crop in 1854. A better crop was raised in 1855, and in 1856 a number of other families were called from the older settlements in Utah to strengthen the pioneer colony of Fort Supply. The experiment of raising wheat in that high altitude proved a success and the settlement, though experiencing hardship and some trouble with the Indians, promised a good future up to the fall of 1857 when both Fort Bridger and Fort Supply were burned because of the Johnsto! n Army troubles. Fort Supply was never resettled and at present only traces of the old fort are left in the shape of stumps sticking from the ground marking the outlines of the original fort.

    07/20/1998 01:41:07
    1. Re: [HANDCART-L] Sorry Sorry Sorry
    2. Ronald Colby
    3. Maybe we should all take up kniting it sounds more fun. ---------- I am so sorry for my post. I obviously posted to the wrong list!!! (I belong to a lace knitting list too). Again I apologize profusely!!!! Melanie Ellingson (researching Cunninton) -----Original Message----- From: Melanie Ellingson <melanie@iea.com> To: HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com <HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, July 20, 1998 5:28 PM Subject: [HANDCART-L] Score!! >Just had to share my "score" this weekend. I went to a local thrift store >and found two Burda knit lace specials. They are both in German, but all >the patterns are there and alot of them are Herbert Neiblings!! I also >found about 5 Workbasket magazines that had lace edgings and one with a >doily in it (pinwheel). > >With the two Anna specials, I'll be busy for a long time! Since I have >discovered the Neibling patterns, I absolutely love them! They are so fun >to make, and absolutely georgous when finished. > > >Thanks for letting me share my "find". > >Melanie > >

    07/20/1998 01:29:27
    1. Re: [HANDCART-L] Social Security Death Index errors
    2. Karen Bush
    3. -----Original Message----- From: Eldon & Terri Jensen <jensenet@vii.com> To: HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com <HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, July 19, 1998 11:13 AM Subject: [HANDCART-L] Social Security Death Index errors >Hi all, > >SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX >Please, everyone, go to the http://www.Ancestry.com site and do a simple >search for your name, your parent's names (if still living) just to make >sure they are NOT listed. We just found my mom-in-law listed as 'dead' and >dieing the same day as her hubby. > >Not good. Not good at all. She is alive and doing quite good for almost >80. Her number is listed, and her birthdate. She could be denied benefits, >etc.. >For your peace of mind, just go check. It is free and it is an official >record taking directly from the Death Master File at Social Security. > >Terri Jensen > Terri -- not only that -- but when Social Security says you are dead you are really DEAD. Saw a speech on CSPAN about a man who tried to prove to Social Security that he was not dead. Had to get a not from his doctor amonth other things. <G> Viivan Karen vkbush@dcaccess.com

    07/20/1998 11:23:10
    1. Re: [HANDCART-L] Anybody out there?
    2. George Brewer
    3. Dear Laurie, Thank you for your message. You will no doubt have seen the message sent to me by Andy Wold which makes it clear that it was not my William Brewer who went with William Paskett to purchase that organ! Dissappointing, but better than not knowing one way or the other. I had several replies - you probably have seen them - people are all so kind and genuinely want to help. My families were mostly located at Ogden, Morgan and Henefer. I see from the map that Orem is round about sixty miles south of that area - which, in a country as big as yours, is not very far away! Best wishes to you, and to Jerry -- George

    07/19/1998 04:25:23
    1. Re: [HANDCART-L] Anybody out there?
    2. George Brewer
    3. Lynda: The eight names you gave me from the cemetery records were those of Arthur and Mary BREWER and six of their eleven children. I had all the names and the birth dates but five of the death dates were previously unknown to me - thank you very very much!! Sad to see three of the children died in infancy and two more in their late teens. I suppose life was very hard for them and facilities pretty basic compared with those of the present day. The rest of their family consisted of 4 boys and 1 girl. The girl was named Ivie May Brewer (b. 6 Jul 1892) and that is all I know about her. The 4 boys all married and had children of their own. They don't appear in the cemetery records because they all moved away from Morgan after marriage. Anyway, this has strayed away from the Handcart theme so I will try to pursue it further through the BREWER list. With regard to my query about William, the one possible 'handcarter', you will probably have seen the reply from Andy E. Wold which shows quite clearly that my William was not the William Brewer involved with the Heneferville organ. (Henefer and Heneferville ? same place ?) Date-wise he may just have been among the last of the handcart companies - his nephews certainly were not. Thanks again for the information you have been able to provide - I don't know if any of these reference CDs and other indexes are available here in England. From the contents of the mail it is clear that you are all much better organised than we are (that might be a bit unfair to my countrymen - it is probably just me that is badly organised, I've never made contact with any genealogy groups in Britain!!) Hope your business visit proved successful In message <00000B75.1637@tmac.com>, Durfee_Lynda@tmac.com writes >I'm going out of town on business 7/18 for a week. When I get back, I'll try >to >check the "Crossing the Plains Index" and "Crossing the Ocean Index" for the >Brewers. If I find them in either one, it would establish the dates they came >to the valley. These microfilmed indexes of file cards are on microfilm. Most >of the large Family History Centers have them. I checked the book "Handcarts >to >Zion"; didn't find any Brewers on the roster, but again, they could have pushed >a handcart alongside a wagon company. Often, though, the story gets garbled as >passed from one generation to the next. > -- George Hayling Island ENG

    07/19/1998 03:53:32
    1. [HANDCART-L] Re: Handcart Pioneers, BREWER Pioneers, etc.
    2. George Brewer
    3. Andy, Many thanks for your information. My William Brewer was clearly not he who was involved with organ - mine died in Nov 1878! He made the journey, with his wife, from Boston to Utah in 1857, so I guess they may have joined a handcart company or tagged along with a wagon train. I'd better visit your web page - 'surfing the net' is not one of my strong points! Have to wait till next weekend (when telephone calls are cheaper). I'm sure I'm not taking full advantage of all that is available - born too soon!! ~(8-] You said "...in Portsmouth again..." how come??? Hope its getting cooler for you Best wishes George In message <35AED2B1.52952543@usa.net>, Andy E. Wold <wold.andy@usa.net> writes >George, > > Handcarting took place (for LDS immigrants) from 1856 until 1860, >LDS wagon pioneers were from 1847 until about 1869 -- when the >transcontinental railroad was completed, making the trip much easier and >faster. > > I found a James P. Parks on the company list for the 1857 Christian >Christianson Handcart Company on my page at: > > http://www.inovion.com/~aewold/_Companies/hand_Handcart07.html > > but could not find a Brewer in any of the lists. Have you checked >the "Crossing the Plains Index" or the "Crossing the Ocean Index" -- >they will usually give the pioneer company that they came with. > > I don't believe the William Brewer in the Henefer article you cited >was the same William Brewer who died in 1878. Another article on the >"LDS Family History Suite CD-ROM" states: > > > > "Summit County" > > Our Pioneer Heritage, Vol. 16, p.98 > > Henefer. Joseph E. Foster, pioneer of 1860 is credited with instructing >the first Sunday School in 1864. It consisted of 16 pupils of various ages and >was held in a one-room log dwelling. The house was purchased by the people in >1865 and it was used for all public meetings for a time. On December 25, 1870, a >regular Sunday School was organized with Robert Jones as superintendent. A >reorganization took place September 6, 1896, with Thomas F. Dearden as >superintendent, George Judd and William Edgeworth as assistants. Later William >Brewer, who had been an assistant under Robert Jones, was again selected to >assist in the presidency. He was affiliated with the Sunday School for a period >of more than forty-eight years, during which period he served as Superintendent, >assistant, secretary and organist. Upon his release from his long, devoted >service to this organization he was presented with a beautiful picture of the >Good Shepherd on which was a card that read: "From the Henefer Ward to William >Brewer, our retiring Sunday School Superintendent, with our love and gratitude >for your long service. June 1915." Maxine Wright > > >Hope that helps, > >Andy E. Wold >wold.andy@usa.net > >p.s. -- Wish I were in London or Portsmouth again -- especially at this >hot time of the year. :) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- George Brewer

    07/19/1998 03:44:33
    1. [HANDCART-L] Social Security Death Index errors
    2. Eldon & Terri Jensen
    3. Hi all, SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX Please, everyone, go to the http://www.Ancestry.com site and do a simple search for your name, your parent's names (if still living) just to make sure they are NOT listed. We just found my mom-in-law listed as 'dead' and dieing the same day as her hubby. Not good. Not good at all. She is alive and doing quite good for almost 80. Her number is listed, and her birthdate. She could be denied benefits, etc.. For your peace of mind, just go check. It is free and it is an official record taking directly from the Death Master File at Social Security. Terri Jensen

    07/19/1998 12:13:26
    1. [HANDCART-L] Let's keep it on our Pioneers
    2. Eldon & Terri Jensen
    3. Hi all, Please don't post or respond about chain-letters or those who are in various needs. It takes up too much space on Rootsweb's computer and we need this space specifically for our lists. It is a simple request from the Rootsweb management [that I am not a part of, thankfully ;] and needs to be heeded for the sake of all the lists. Terri

    07/17/1998 11:33:02
    1. Re: [HANDCART-L] [Fwd: ]
    2. Karen Bush
    3. I hate to rain on the parade, but these pass on emails are usually hoaxes -- check out http://www.nonprofit.net/hoax/hoax/html and some of the other chain letter/hoax pages. Karen Bush vkbush@dcaccess.com -----Original Message----- From: Alice Volkert <volkert@pacbell.net> To: HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com <HANDCART-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, July 16, 1998 10:07 PM Subject: [HANDCART-L] [Fwd: ] >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >--------------66214597486B >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Ok! It isn't genealogy. But maybe we can stop a moment, spend a buck, >and do something for someone else. Maybe, by helping this little boy >get his wish, you'll get your wish! A prayer for the little kid mighjt >be nice, too. >Thanks >Alice Colby Volkert > >--------------66214597486B >Content-Type: message/rfc822 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Disposition: inline > >Return-Path: oceanbabe@juno.com >Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by mail-la2.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA13855 for <volkert@mail-la2.pacbell.net>; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:29:36 -0700 (PDT) >Received: from x1.boston.juno.com (x1.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.21]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id VAA18180 for <volkert@pacbell.net>; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:29:33 -0700 (PDT) >Received: (from oceanbabe@juno.com) > by x1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DJB5CD48; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 00:24:45 EDT >To: dianaburns@hotmail.com, ArtCutler@aol.com, paws4law@juno.com, > Edmioducki@aol.com, thericefam@juno.com, BS2064@aol.com, > calwldflwr@aol.com, stewart@irwd.com, RMSC50SC@aol.com, > volkert@pacbell.net, ty023179@student.fullerton.edu >Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:22:23 -0700 >Message-ID: <19980716.212300.10006.1.oceanbabe@juno.com> >X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 >X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-7,9,12-24 >From: oceanbabe@juno.com (Jocelyn K Buell) > > >> Can you make time to send this litte boy a card? >> The following message was sent to the Norwood Police Department: > >> Subj: Children's Wish Foundation >> >> This E-mail is being sent at the request of Officer Dave Brown: >> >Craig Shingold is a seven year old boy who lives in Keene, N.H. he is >dying from an inoperable brain tumor. He made a wish to the >Children's Wish Foundation that he wants to receive a million cards by >August 15th so he can make the World Book of Records before he dies. This >is such a small thing to ask for. >> Please send your cards to: >> >> Craig Shingold >> c/o Childrens Wish Foundation >> 32 Perimieter Center East >> Atlanta, GA 30346 >> >> P.S. Please pass this on to as many people as you can to help this >> little boy get his one wish. >> >> >> > > >--------------66214597486B-- > >______________________________

    07/17/1998 10:23:03
    1. [HANDCART-L] cancel the card!
    2. Alice Volkert
    3. The e-mail about the little boy with the Make-A-Wish Foundation was a scam! I fell for it! Sorry I posted it. I'll be more leery (and stick to genealogy!) in the future. Alice

    07/17/1998 07:50:52
    1. [HANDCART-L] Re: Shingold---Stop--read message
    2. This is another urban legend. I found no reference to "Craig Shingold" in the Keene NH Sentinel newspaper archives. DO NOT SEND CARDS!!! please read story below. PLEASE check chain letter stories out before passing them along. The AFU and Urban Legend Archive Classic Craig Shergold craig nyt Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 22:23:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Steinberg <andrewst@u.washington.edu> Subject: Craig Shergold NYT Article The New York Times September 1, 1993, Wednesday, Late Edition - Final SECTION: Section A; Page 1; Column 2; National Desk HEADLINE: A Dream Comes True and Comes True . . . BYLINE: By CHARISSE JONES BODY: There once was a boy named Craig, who in the midst of his fight against cancer asked strangers to grant a simple request: Send get-well cards, lots of them, enough to lift a sick child's spirits and break a world record. Craig Shergold got his wish. Ordinary people and heads of state alike responded to the 7-year-old British boy's plea, sending more than 16 million greeting cards in a year's time and breaking the standing record within months. Now, four years later, Craig Shergold, has his record and his health. Doctors removed most of a cancerous brain tumor in 1991 and say the disease has not returned. But Craig's request lives on through a flurry of chain letters making the rounds of offices in Manhattan and other cities around the country. And as thousands of cards continue to pour in, those who first publicized the boy's appeal have replaced the words "thank you" with two others. Enough already. 'No Way to Stop It' "We've got a 10,000-square-foot warehouse that is stacked to the ceiling with mail that still hasn't been opened," said Arthur Stein, president of the Atlanta-based Children's Wish Foundation International, which began the initial card campaign in 1989 and asked for it to cease at least two years ago. "There's no way to stop it. Everyone keeps saying quit, and people ignore the pleas." In a latter-day version of the children's game called telephone, Craig's plight continues to be resurrected in letters delivered via mail carrier and fax machine, with facts so different from the original story, the tale is at times almost unrecognizable. The letters now ask for business cards instead of get-well cards. Depending on which letter you get, Craig's last name may be Schergold, or Sherfold. And the letters either switch the names of two foundations that grant wishes to seriously ill children, or name a foundation that does not exist at all. To complicate matters further, many of the cards are mailed to an Atlanta address that does not exist and are eventually re-routed to the Children's Wish Foundation headquarters. Some of the envelopes simply say "Wish Foundation," with no address or ZIP code. And Mr. Stein said his staff has put on display one envelope that cryptically read "To The Boy Who Is Sick In The Hospital, In Arizona, Or Colorado . . . " One thing remains the same: While the drive has been going on for years, the boy in the appeal has not aged -- he is still 7 and still terminally ill. The Children's Wish Foundation uses a donated warehouse and staff of 40 volunteers to handle the nearly 300,000 cards sent in every week, Mr. Stein said. The Phoenix-based Make-a-Wish Foundation of America, which never dealt with the Shergold boy or his request, has established a telephone line to tell the public the current card appeal is not legitimate, nor are they involved. And there has been a concerted effort to spread the word that cards -- business or otherwise -- are no longer wanted. Newspaper writers from Dallas to Manhattan have written articles and columns stating that the boy broke the record long ago. His mother has appealed through the BBC and other media outlets that no more cards be sent. Even Ann Landers, in a column printed last year, begged the public to stop. In fact, the Guinness Book of World Records has retired the category for the most get-well cards, leaving Craig's 1992 record of 33 million cards unchallenged. No Longer Counting But no amount of publicity has been strong enough to stem the torrent of faxes and phone calls. "I would suspect we have surpassed 100 million" cards, Mr. Stein said, adding that the foundation stopped counting once the number topped 60 million. At the request of the Shergold family, he said, the cards are being recycled. At the Make-a-Wish Foundation, the number of calls to a special phone line has recently risen from about 800 a month to more than 1,400, indicating the chain-letter appeal has intensified, said Diana Whittle, a spokeswoman. "I can't think of any other appeals that have generated so many phone calls,"Ms. Whittle said, adding that she has a three-inch file stuffed with chain letters in her office. "The people who are calling are the ones who are obviously suspicious. They're saying, 'I think I heard about this two years ago, and I just want to make sure this is still not true.' " Charity and Superstition Hazel Hammond was one who didn't check. Two weeks ago, the picture editor at American Express's Travel & Leisure Magazine in Manhattan received a letter asking her to help fulfill the dying wish of a sick boy. "It was an innocuous request," said Ms. Hammond, who immediately sent off her business card. "I didn't have to give blood or anything." It was a combination of charity and superstition that encouraged Ms. Hammond to heed the instructions in the letter and not invite bad luck by breaking the chain. So she dutifully printed 10 copies, as the letter requested, and forwarded them to friends throughout New York City. "I thought I'd do it and get it over with," Ms. Hammond said. After all, "I believe in astrology, too." One of her acquaintances had already received the letter from someone else. "It seems like something you want to do for someone, but you don't want to waste your time," said Pam Older, vice president and director of marketing for The New Yorker, who checked the story before redistributing the letter. "We called the Make-a-Wish Foundation and found out the boy's appeal had already been fulfilled. So I stopped the chain right there. Then I got Hazel's letter." 'Just Exploded From There' The Governor's Office of Consumer Affairs in Georgia, following several inquiries from the media, investigated to make sure that the chain letter was not a scheme to assemble a mailing list or solicit money and found no wrongdoing on the part of the Children's Wish Foundation, said a spokeswoman for the office, Carolyn Mills. Most feel the chain-letter campaign is simply a good-natured effort gone awry. "I think it's amusing," Ms. Hammond said. "I'm sure the origin of it was quite honest and sincere." In 1989, Craig, the son of a waitress and truck driver living in Carshalton, England, was suffering from a brain tumor and not expected to survive. The British media began to publicize the boy's desire to break the world record for receiving the most get-well cards, and eventually, Mr. Stein said, the Children's Wish organization was enlisted in the effort. The day after the foundation was asked to assist in the appeal, a board member asked if he could fax the request to his company's offices around the nation, Mr. Stein said. "It just exploded from there," he said. "It seemed his employees got so enthused they sent it to all their suppliers and customers. And fax-o-mania took hold." Boy's Tumor Removed Because of the card campaign, John W. Kluge, the billionaire who is the chairman of the Metromedia Company, learned of Craig's illness and paid for him to see a neurosurgeon at the University of Virginia Health Sciences Center. In March 1991, more than 90 percent of Craig's brain tumor was removed, and he is believed to be cured, said a hospital spokesman, Tom Doran. The boy still lives in England with his parents, said Mr. Stein, who stays in touch with the family. T-shirts, caps and other gifts sent to Craig are distributed to other sick children at the request of Craig's mother, Marion. And the approximately $6,000 sent to the foundation in Craig's name is being set aside to offset any expenses incurred in trips to the United States for follow-up treatment. In the meantime, Ms. Hammond ponders her good deed and admits there is one thing she has left undone -- getting back to those friends she made the latest links in the chain. "That's what I'm feeling guilty about," Ms. Hammond said. "I need to call them and say don't bother." GRAPHIC: Photos: Some of the 300,000 cards sent weekly to Craig Shergold, below, at the Children's Wish Foundation International in Atlanta. (Alan S. Weiner for The New York Times) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Steinberg andrewst@u.washington.edu Law Librarianship Program Seattle, Washington USA University of Washington "Illegitimi non carborundum" --------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.urbanlegends.com/ Copyright Information

    07/17/1998 07:30:03
    1. Re[2]: [HANDCART-L] Make-a-wish
    2. At the risk of being a spoiler, has anyone verified the story about the little boy? I recalled seeing an article in the National Enquirer (ok, I know its trash, but fun trash), about a boy in England who asked for cards several years ago when he was dying. He recovered, but still gets thousands of cards. He's tried to get the word out to stop sending cards; hence the article in the Enquirer. ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: [HANDCART-L] Make-a-wish Author: Eldon & Terri Jensen <jensenet@vii.com> Date: 7/17/98 1:01 AM >Ok! It isn't genealogy. But maybe we can stop a moment, spend a buck, >and do something for someone else. Maybe, by helping this little boy >get his wish, you'll get your wish! A prayer for the little kid mighjt >be nice, too. >Thanks >Alice Colby Volkert > Hi everyone, The very best way to express these special wishes is to put it on a simple webpage and invite your good friends and listmembers to read through the information. Rootsweb really discourages posting these requests on the lists simply because of the responses and the space taken up on their computers for non-genalogical items. It is a simple and good request and my heart goes out to the little boy. If anyone has questions about posting items like this request to the list, don't hesitate to holler at me. I want this list to be friendly and informative, but this does go against Rootsweb's policy. However, 'I' won't say anything to the sys. admins. ;) Terri

    07/17/1998 07:11:28
    1. Re: [HANDCART-L] Make-a-wish
    2. Eldon & Terri Jensen
    3. >Ok! It isn't genealogy. But maybe we can stop a moment, spend a buck, >and do something for someone else. Maybe, by helping this little boy >get his wish, you'll get your wish! A prayer for the little kid mighjt >be nice, too. >Thanks >Alice Colby Volkert > Hi everyone, The very best way to express these special wishes is to put it on a simple webpage and invite your good friends and listmembers to read through the information. Rootsweb really discourages posting these requests on the lists simply because of the responses and the space taken up on their computers for non-genalogical items. It is a simple and good request and my heart goes out to the little boy. If anyone has questions about posting items like this request to the list, don't hesitate to holler at me. I want this list to be friendly and informative, but this does go against Rootsweb's policy. However, 'I' won't say anything to the sys. admins. ;) Terri

    07/17/1998 01:01:36
    1. Re: [HANDCART-L] Anybody out there?
    2. George Brewer
    3. Lynda: Woken up this morning by the realisation that old-age (and maybe the end of a long day) had done nothing for the clarity of the following passage which I sent last night: >I think she must have got the name 'Henry Brewer' wrong - the only >member of that generation named Henry was my G-grandfather and he >died (after siring many children!) at Leytonstone, Essex, ENG in >1872. There was however Henry's brother - William - who was born >in Essex and died at Henneferville on 29 Nov 1878. Apart from the fact that he was my GG-Grandfather, the comments about Henry are correct - but it would have been clearer if I had pointed out that he was THE FATHER of the two brothers! Sorry -- George Brewer

    07/17/1998 12:29:59
    1. [HANDCART-L] [Fwd: ]
    2. Alice Volkert
    3. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------66214597486B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok! It isn't genealogy. But maybe we can stop a moment, spend a buck, and do something for someone else. Maybe, by helping this little boy get his wish, you'll get your wish! A prayer for the little kid mighjt be nice, too. Thanks Alice Colby Volkert --------------66214597486B Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: oceanbabe@juno.com Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by mail-la2.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA13855 for <volkert@mail-la2.pacbell.net>; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x1.boston.juno.com (x1.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.21]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id VAA18180 for <volkert@pacbell.net>; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from oceanbabe@juno.com) by x1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DJB5CD48; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 00:24:45 EDT To: dianaburns@hotmail.com, ArtCutler@aol.com, paws4law@juno.com, Edmioducki@aol.com, thericefam@juno.com, BS2064@aol.com, calwldflwr@aol.com, stewart@irwd.com, RMSC50SC@aol.com, volkert@pacbell.net, ty023179@student.fullerton.edu Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:22:23 -0700 Message-ID: <19980716.212300.10006.1.oceanbabe@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-7,9,12-24 From: oceanbabe@juno.com (Jocelyn K Buell) > Can you make time to send this litte boy a card? > The following message was sent to the Norwood Police Department: > Subj: Children's Wish Foundation > > This E-mail is being sent at the request of Officer Dave Brown: > Craig Shingold is a seven year old boy who lives in Keene, N.H. he is dying from an inoperable brain tumor. He made a wish to the Children's Wish Foundation that he wants to receive a million cards by August 15th so he can make the World Book of Records before he dies. This is such a small thing to ask for. > Please send your cards to: > > Craig Shingold > c/o Childrens Wish Foundation > 32 Perimieter Center East > Atlanta, GA 30346 > > P.S. Please pass this on to as many people as you can to help this > little boy get his one wish. > > > --------------66214597486B--

    07/16/1998 11:07:35
    1. [HANDCART-L] Re: Handcart Pioneers, BREWER Pioneers, etc.
    2. Andy E. Wold
    3. George, Handcarting took place (for LDS immigrants) from 1856 until 1860, LDS wagon pioneers were from 1847 until about 1869 -- when the transcontinental railroad was completed, making the trip much easier and faster. I found a James P. Parks on the company list for the 1857 Christian Christianson Handcart Company on my page at: http://www.inovion.com/~aewold/_Companies/hand_Handcart07.html but could not find a Brewer in any of the lists. Have you checked the "Crossing the Plains Index" or the "Crossing the Ocean Index" -- they will usually give the pioneer company that they came with. I don't believe the William Brewer in the Henefer article you cited was the same William Brewer who died in 1878. Another article on the "LDS Family History Suite CD-ROM" states: > "Summit County" > Our Pioneer Heritage, Vol. 16, p.98 > Henefer. Joseph E. Foster, pioneer of 1860 is credited with instructing the first Sunday School in 1864. It consisted of 16 pupils of various ages and was held in a one-room log dwelling. The house was purchased by the people in 1865 and it was used for all public meetings for a time. On December 25, 1870, a regular Sunday School was organized with Robert Jones as superintendent. A reorganization took place September 6, 1896, with Thomas F. Dearden as superintendent, George Judd and William Edgeworth as assistants. Later William Brewer, who had been an assistant under Robert Jones, was again selected to assist in the presidency. He was affiliated with the Sunday School for a period of more than forty-eight years, during which period he served as Superintendent, assistant, secretary and organist. Upon his release from his long, devoted service to this organization he was presented with a beautiful picture of the Good Shepherd on which was a card that read: "From the Hene! fer Ward to William Brewer, our retiring Sunday School Superintendent, with our love and gratitude for your long service. June 1915." —Maxine Wright > Hope that helps, Andy E. Wold wold.andy@usa.net p.s. -- Wish I were in London or Portsmouth again -- especially at this hot time of the year. :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > When did 'Handcarting' end? > As far as I can discover, my earliest immigrant relative was GG-Uncle > William BREWER:- Emigrated from Essex, ENG to UT in March 1857 - > probably on board the George Washington - with wife, Jane, and church > leader James P. Park. William died, childless, 20 Nov 1878 at > Henneferville having been joined, I believe, by two teen-aged nephews > from Essex during the 1870s. Would William and Jane have been > Handcarters? > > Was William the William BREWER who "....was chosen (with William F. > PASKETT) to go to Great Salt Lake to purchase a new organ for the > branch......William BREWER was selected as ward organist in 1877" > (quotation from D.U.P. Our Valley Home - kindly sent to me by Kathy > Willett) > > Are any of the 2 nephew's descendants still in Hennefer or Morgan or > Ogden? I have names and dates for many of their children and some G-children. Have sent details before (and will gladly do so again) but to no avail. > > Hope you all enjoy your vacations - despite the heat!!!! > -- > George Brewer > Hayling Island > Hampshire, UK >

    07/16/1998 10:27:30
    1. Re: [HANDCART-L] Anybody out there?
    2. George Brewer
    3. Lynda, Thank you very much for all the information. I recognise several names in the cemetery records - I shall dig out my list and cross- check the dates. It certainly looks likely to be a match - I'll keep you posted. I can definitely confirm that Arthur Edward was one of the nephews, and that he was born and died on the dates you have quoted. His wife was Mary Ann Hardy (Perry) and those dates are the same as the ones I have too. The other nephew, Arthur's elder brother, was named William. He died at Henefer on 27 May 1928. My question about the handcarts stems from a letter which I have a copy of. It was written to one of my Uncles (in England) by the wife of one of Arthur Edward's sons. His name was Ray, his wife's was Ethel. She wrote the letter in Ogden on 16 Dec 1967 and I quote from it:- "...Just a few miles from our home up in the canyon a little town called Henifer lives some more of your cousins. Their father and Ray's father were brothers. His name was William Brewer and Ray's father was Arthur Brewer. They both came here to Utah from Essex England when they were in their teens their parents died. There was a uncle by the name of Henry Brewer and his wife who also came to Utah. I understand they came across the plains in what is called the handcart company, they didn't have any children but were very good to Arthur and William. This couple are buried up here in the Henifer cemetery by the side of William Brewer and his family." I think she must have got the name 'Henry Brewer' wrong - the only member of that generation named Henry was my G-grandfather and he died (after siring many children!) at Leytonstone, Essex, ENG in 1872. There was however Henry's brother - William - who was born in Essex and died at Henneferville on 29 Nov 1878. I reckon that's who she was referring to. I shall never know for sure because there is no chance that I shall see the graves in Henifer (Ethel's spelling) Cemetery. Anyway, I mustn't fill up any more of your postbox! Must stop now - it is getting rather late here. Goodnight George In message <0000093C.1637@tmac.com>, Durfee_Lynda@tmac.com writes >George: > >The last two of the 10 handcart companies crossed the plains from Florence >(Omaha), Nebraska to Salt Lake City in 1860. My gg-grandfather, Daniel Robison, >was captain of the 9th. Although a FEW people pushes handcarts alongside the >wagons after that, the emigration system changed in 1861. Instead of buying >equipment and food at the fitting-out point, wagons left SLC in early April, >dropped off some supplies at depots along the way, picked up passengers and >baggage in Florence, then headed back to the valley. This was called "down and >back." As the trans-continental railroad construction progressed, the wagons >met the emigrants at the railhead. By 1868, they traveled as far as Laramie, WY >by rail. When the railroad was completed in 1869, emigrants went by rail as far >as Ogden. Later, the Church built a connection from Ogden to SLC, so Brewers >nephews probably came all the way from the east coast by rail. > >I found an article on the William Brewer who was connected with the organ, but I >can't answer if he was the same as your William Brewer. If I find out anything >more, I'll get back to you. > >I have cemetery records for Morgan Co. Here are the Brewers: > >North Morgan Cemetery, Section 2 > >Leslie Brewer, b. 15 Jan 1897, d. 14 May 1915 >Nellie Jane Brewer, b. 1 Oct 1888, d. 14 Nov 1959 >Ruben Brewer, b. 9 June 1901, d. 21 Aug 1901 >Ruby Brewer, born & died 7 Aug 1902 >Luella Brewer, b. 25 Dec 1903, d. 27 Dec 1903 >Parley Brewer, b. 11 Oct 1894, d. 16 Apr 1912 >Arthur E. Brewer, b. 15 Oct 1859, d. 19 Sep 1934 >Mary Ann P. Brewer, b. 24 Apr 1867, d. 5 May 1904 > >The cemetery transcriptions do not give relationships. I presume Arthur and >Mary Ann were husband and wife and the rest were their children. Perhaps Arthur >was one of the nephews? >____________________Reply Separator____________________ >Subject: Re: [HANDCART-L] Anybody out there? >Author: George Brewer <george@brewhouse.demon.co.uk> >Date: 7/15/98 11:33 PM >When did 'Handcarting' end? >As far as I can discover, my earliest immigrant relative was GG-Uncle William >BREWER:- Emigrated from Essex, ENG to UT in March 1857 - probably on board the >George Washington - with wife, Jane, and church leader James P. Park. William >died, childless, 20 Nov 1878 at Henneferville having been joined, I believe, by >two teen-aged nephews from Essex during the 1870s. Would William and Jane have >been Handcarters? > >Was William the William BREWER who "....was chosen (with William F. PASKETT) to >go to Great Salt Lake to purchase a new organ for the branch......William BREWER >was selected as ward organist in 1877" (quotation from D.U.P. Our Valley Home - >kindly sent to me by Kathy Willett) > >Are any of the 2 nephew's descendants still in Hennefer or Morgan or Ogden? I >have names and dates for many of their children and some G-children. > >Have sent details before (and will gladly do so again) but to no avail. > >Hope you all enjoy your vacations - despite the heat!!!! -- George Brewer

    07/16/1998 03:21:09
    1. Re[2]: [HANDCART-L] Anybody out there?
    2. George: The last two of the 10 handcart companies crossed the plains from Florence (Omaha), Nebraska to Salt Lake City in 1860. My gg-grandfather, Daniel Robison, was captain of the 9th. Although a FEW people pushes handcarts alongside the wagons after that, the emigration system changed in 1861. Instead of buying equipment and food at the fitting-out point, wagons left SLC in early April, dropped off some supplies at depots along the way, picked up passengers and baggage in Florence, then headed back to the valley. This was called "down and back." As the trans-continental railroad construction progressed, the wagons met the emigrants at the railhead. By 1868, they traveled as far as Laramie, WY by rail. When the railroad was completed in 1869, emigrants went by rail as far as Ogden. Later, the Church built a connection from Ogden to SLC, so Brewers nephews probably came all the way from the east coast by rail. I found an article on the William Brewer who was connected with the organ, but I can't answer if he was the same as your William Brewer. If I find out anything more, I'll get back to you. I have cemetery records for Morgan Co. Here are the Brewers: North Morgan Cemetery, Section 2 Leslie Brewer, b. 15 Jan 1897, d. 14 May 1915 Nellie Jane Brewer, b. 1 Oct 1888, d. 14 Nov 1959 Ruben Brewer, b. 9 June 1901, d. 21 Aug 1901 Ruby Brewer, born & died 7 Aug 1902 Luella Brewer, b. 25 Dec 1903, d. 27 Dec 1903 Parley Brewer, b. 11 Oct 1894, d. 16 Apr 1912 Arthur E. Brewer, b. 15 Oct 1859, d. 19 Sep 1934 Mary Ann P. Brewer, b. 24 Apr 1867, d. 5 May 1904 The cemetery transcriptions do not give relationships. I presume Arthur and Mary Ann were husband and wife and the rest were their children. Perhaps Arthur was one of the nephews? ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: [HANDCART-L] Anybody out there? Author: George Brewer <george@brewhouse.demon.co.uk> Date: 7/15/98 11:33 PM When did 'Handcarting' end? As far as I can discover, my earliest immigrant relative was GG-Uncle William BREWER:- Emigrated from Essex, ENG to UT in March 1857 - probably on board the George Washington - with wife, Jane, and church leader James P. Park. William died, childless, 20 Nov 1878 at Henneferville having been joined, I believe, by two teen-aged nephews from Essex during the 1870s. Would William and Jane have been Handcarters? Was William the William BREWER who "....was chosen (with William F. PASKETT) to go to Great Salt Lake to purchase a new organ for the branch......William BREWER was selected as ward organist in 1877" (quotation from D.U.P. Our Valley Home - kindly sent to me by Kathy Willett) Are any of the 2 nephew's descendants still in Hennefer or Morgan or Ogden? I have names and dates for many of their children and some G-children. Have sent details before (and will gladly do so again) but to no avail. Hope you all enjoy your vacations - despite the heat!!!! -- George Brewer Hayling Island Hampshire, UK

    07/16/1998 01:11:50
    1. [HANDCART-L] 1881 census plus others
    2. Marie Anne Cooper
    3. Hi, Can any tell if the 1881 census and also the vital records for Australia and England cannot be purchased for the home computers. The LDS shop in NZ told me these can only be purchased to put on the computer at the Mormon LDS Library. I was hoping they were be the same as the 1851 which is a marvellous disc. Look forward to your reply. Marie NZ

    07/16/1998 04:27:46
    1. Re: [HANDCART-L] Anybody out there?
    2. George Brewer
    3. In message <35AD58D5.5008C012@itsnet.com>, Jerry & Laurie E. Castillo <lcastillo@itsnet.com> writes >George Brewer wrote: > >> If you have some spare summer over there please share a bit >> with us UK cousins (;-)) What's it like to have heat to complain >> of???? >> >> Been 'lurking' for a couple of months, because I lost my dear wife, >> but hope soon to get the old enthusiasm revived. Reading all your >> chat has been a great help. >> > >Dear George, > >My condolances on the loss of your sweetheart. > >I wrote because I visit teach a lady who in to family history and I have >heard her speak of her grandmother Paskett from Henefer. I went to >Hennefer on a pioneer trail tour last Summer. >It is a neat little place with a DUP Museum and all. > >This friend of mine is not on E-mail but has all her stuff on PAF. I >will print your message and give it to her and see if she has info on >your Uncle and family. > >Take Care, > >L:aurie Werner Castillo lcastillo@itsnet.com By the way, we are in >Orem, UT! > Dear Laurie, Most grateful for your prompt response. Thank you for your kind thoughts and for your help. I'll let you know of any future developments that may come about. Best wishes George >> When did 'Handcarting' end? >> As far as I can discover, my earliest immigrant relative was GG-Uncle >> William BREWER:- Emigrated from Essex, ENG to UT in March 1857 - >> probably on board the George Washington - with wife, Jane, and church >> leader James P. Park. William died, childless, 20 Nov 1878 at >> Henneferville having been joined, I believe, by two teen-aged nephews >> from Essex during the 1870s. Would William and Jane have been >> Handcarters? >> >> Was William the William BREWER who "....was chosen (with William F. >> PASKETT) to go to Great Salt Lake to purchase a new organ for the >> branch......William BREWER was selected as ward organist in 1877" >> (quotation from D.U.P. Our Valley Home - kindly sent to me by Kathy >> Willett) >> >> Are any of the 2 nephew's descendants still in Hennefer or Morgan or >> Ogden? >> I have names and dates for many of their children and some G-children. >> >> Have sent details before (and will gladly do so again) but to no >> avail. >> >> Hope you all enjoy your vacations - despite the heat!!!! >> -- >> George Brewer >> Hayling Island >> Hampshire, UK > > > -- George Brewer

    07/16/1998 02:41:12