Hi Audrey, If the surname of Adams is a criteria for you then there are several Hancock lines, including Warner's direct line, with Adams', many of whom married a Hancock. Warner's 5X ggrfa., Lewis Hancock (son of Benjamin and Nancy Anna Corn) married a Frances Frankye Adams (dtr. of Jacob Adams, Jr. b. Patrick Co., Virginia November 12, 1763) however I do not have his wife. Frankye's aunt, Mary "Polly" Adams was m. to Richard Ramsey Hancock b. Cunningham Creek, Fluvanna Co., Virginia April 16, 1783. Richard and Lewis were brothers. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: Audrey Shields Hancock To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 5:24 PM Subject: [HANCOCK-L] Connecting these HANCOCK lines--Chart 26, 3, etc. Hi, Bob, I need more testees from the BENJAMIN HANCOCK (WF, MARY BEADLES) line as testees, first to determine if there is common DNA to at least connect my John to that family, then I need to prove that Benjamin and Mary are truly his parents which based upon much circumstantial evidence seems to point to that conclusion. Yes, merging these lines may never happen, but we'll give it the ole school boy try! Well, I was always interested in the fact that you had an ADAMS, BROCK, & DAVIS in your listings of surnames. I now think that (Capt.) John may have had the middle name of Adams and his son's middle name, as Alexander. Based upon how children were named in those days, it would indicate an ancestor bore the surname of ADAMS, and sometimes marriages occurred with same families to other connecting families. Then I have a William Hancock (believed s/o Benjamin & Mary) who is believed to have married Jemima BROCKMAN (in marriage records as Jemima BROCK), dau/o BROCKMAN & GRAVES. Then I have John DAVIS mar 1690 Stafford Co., VA to Susanna MATHENY and had dau, Susanna Davis who married a Bartlett, who had a BARTLETT dau who married a GRAVES and they had Nancy GRAVES who married (Capt.) John HANCOCK. Just throwing out names in case anyone sees something that will "ring a bell" in connecting these HANCOCK families. Audrey -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 3:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Family lines with same Y-DNA--Chart 26 & 3 & Update Audrey- I have come to the conclusion that wedding our lines will be like winning the lottery. If we assume Jean and I have correct data and that yours is correct, all we can do is fit the two pieces and hope the bond holds. I have data back to William, etc and have seen your data for years and never thought we were the same line. (Arvil looked pretty hard also.) The big block for me is that I was convinced we would never find an easy answer so maybe digging harder? I spent my working career in technical research. One way to find the correct answer is to pick the end result you want and then prove you are right. (Also start in the middle and you can go either way.) I think the Johns and Benjamins must be the solution. We need the Rosetta Stone. BobHop Visit our home page http://bobhopkins0.tripod.com/ Major family names- Abel, Adams, Anders, Bellisfield, Brock, Byers, Davis, Dement, Field, Guffey, Hancock, Hockaday, Hopkins, Irvine, McClanahan, Scarbrough, Shipley, Strother, Stonestreet, Wade, Wampler, Westlake ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== If you have a HANCOCK Genealogy Homepage, and would like to have it listed on our Links page, send the URL to the list, or to: [email protected] ______________________________

Hi, Jean, I don't know if it is a criteria or not, but thought it might be interesting to see if there is an ADAMS ancestor out there for anyone else, as family surnames of same lines frequently show up as intermarrying in preceding generations or even marrying siblings, etc. Just another way of trying to research. Do you know anymore about this Jacob Adams and his family? Thank you. Audrey -----Original Message----- From: theshadow [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 6:39 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Connecting these HANCOCK lines--Chart 26, 3, etc. Hi Audrey, If the surname of Adams is a criteria for you then there are several Hancock lines, including Warner's direct line, with Adams', many of whom married a Hancock. Warner's 5X ggrfa., Lewis Hancock (son of Benjamin and Nancy Anna Corn) married a Frances Frankye Adams (dtr. of Jacob Adams, Jr. b. Patrick Co., Virginia November 12, 1763) however I do not have his wife. Frankye's aunt, Mary "Polly" Adams was m. to Richard Ramsey Hancock b. Cunningham Creek, Fluvanna Co., Virginia April 16, 1783. Richard and Lewis were brothers. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: Audrey Shields Hancock To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 5:24 PM Subject: [HANCOCK-L] Connecting these HANCOCK lines--Chart 26, 3, etc. Hi, Bob, I need more testees from the BENJAMIN HANCOCK (WF, MARY BEADLES) line as testees, first to determine if there is common DNA to at least connect my John to that family, then I need to prove that Benjamin and Mary are truly his parents which based upon much circumstantial evidence seems to point to that conclusion. Yes, merging these lines may never happen, but we'll give it the ole school boy try! Well, I was always interested in the fact that you had an ADAMS, BROCK, & DAVIS in your listings of surnames. I now think that (Capt.) John may have had the middle name of Adams and his son's middle name, as Alexander. Based upon how children were named in those days, it would indicate an ancestor bore the surname of ADAMS, and sometimes marriages occurred with same families to other connecting families. Then I have a William Hancock (believed s/o Benjamin & Mary) who is believed to have married Jemima BROCKMAN (in marriage records as Jemima BROCK), dau/o BROCKMAN & GRAVES. Then I have John DAVIS mar 1690 Stafford Co., VA to Susanna MATHENY and had dau, Susanna Davis who married a Bartlett, who had a BARTLETT dau who married a GRAVES and they had Nancy GRAVES who married (Capt.) John HANCOCK. Just throwing out names in case anyone sees something that will "ring a bell" in connecting these HANCOCK families. Audrey -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 3:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Family lines with same Y-DNA--Chart 26 & 3 & Update Audrey- I have come to the conclusion that wedding our lines will be like winning the lottery. If we assume Jean and I have correct data and that yours is correct, all we can do is fit the two pieces and hope the bond holds. I have data back to William, etc and have seen your data for years and never thought we were the same line. (Arvil looked pretty hard also.) The big block for me is that I was convinced we would never find an easy answer so maybe digging harder? I spent my working career in technical research. One way to find the correct answer is to pick the end result you want and then prove you are right. (Also start in the middle and you can go either way.) I think the Johns and Benjamins must be the solution. We need the Rosetta Stone. BobHop Visit our home page http://bobhopkins0.tripod.com/ Major family names- Abel, Adams, Anders, Bellisfield, Brock, Byers, Davis, Dement, Field, Guffey, Hancock, Hockaday, Hopkins, Irvine, McClanahan, Scarbrough, Shipley, Strother, Stonestreet, Wade, Wampler, Westlake ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== If you have a HANCOCK Genealogy Homepage, and would like to have it listed on our Links page, send the URL to the list, or to: [email protected] ______________________________ ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== Check out our HANCOCK Project World Wide at: http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/

Jean and Audrey Don't mean to intrude-have been following this DNA info excitedly and thought I might bring up some info I received from a descendant of William T Hancock,eldest of Charles Jackson and Archasey Warren Hancock,Jean and my husband's line. This info comes from the book "Early Settlers of Rowan Co,N.C.",pg.50. I have not personally checked it. Jacob Adams - 1763-1835 father of Francis Frankye Adams Hancock Jacob Adams b. 1735 Patrick Co,Va d.27 Oct 1807 Patrick Co,Va. married Mary Peake 1748 Charles,Md. Mary Peake b. 1748 Charles,Md. d. 24 Dec 1827 Fairfax,Va Richard Adams -no dates married Hannah Unknown Hope this helps. Barbara Hancock in OK ----- Original Message ----- From: Audrey Shields Hancock <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 7:42 AM Subject: RE: [HANCOCK-L] Connecting these HANCOCK lines--Chart 26, 3, etc. > Hi, Jean, > I don't know if it is a criteria or not, but thought it might be interesting > to see if there is an ADAMS ancestor out there for anyone else, as family > surnames of same lines frequently show up as intermarrying in preceding > generations or even marrying siblings, etc. Just another way of trying to > research. Do you know anymore about this Jacob Adams and his family? > > Thank you. > Audrey > > -----Original Message----- > From: theshadow [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 6:39 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Connecting these HANCOCK lines--Chart 26, 3, > etc. > > > Hi Audrey, > If the surname of Adams is a criteria for you then there are several > Hancock lines, including Warner's direct line, with Adams', many of whom > married a Hancock. > Warner's 5X ggrfa., Lewis Hancock (son of Benjamin and Nancy Anna Corn) > married a Frances Frankye Adams (dtr. of Jacob Adams, Jr. b. Patrick Co., > Virginia November 12, 1763) however I do not have his wife. Frankye's aunt, > Mary "Polly" Adams was m. to Richard Ramsey Hancock b. Cunningham Creek, > Fluvanna Co., Virginia April 16, 1783. Richard and Lewis were brothers. > Jean > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Audrey Shields Hancock > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 5:24 PM > Subject: [HANCOCK-L] Connecting these HANCOCK lines--Chart 26, 3, etc. > > > Hi, Bob, > I need more testees from the BENJAMIN HANCOCK (WF, MARY BEADLES) line as > testees, first to determine if there is common DNA to at least connect my > John to that family, then I need to prove that Benjamin and Mary are truly > his parents which based upon much circumstantial evidence seems to point to > that conclusion. > > Yes, merging these lines may never happen, but we'll give it the ole school > boy try! Well, I was always interested in the fact that you had an ADAMS, > BROCK, & DAVIS in your listings of surnames. I now think that (Capt.) John > may have had the middle name of Adams and his son's middle name, as > Alexander. Based upon how children were named in those days, it would > indicate an ancestor bore the surname of ADAMS, and sometimes marriages > occurred with same families to other connecting families. Then I have a > William Hancock (believed s/o Benjamin & Mary) who is believed to have > married Jemima BROCKMAN (in marriage records as Jemima BROCK), dau/o > BROCKMAN & GRAVES. Then I have John DAVIS mar 1690 Stafford Co., VA to > Susanna MATHENY and had dau, Susanna Davis who married a Bartlett, who had a > BARTLETT dau who married a GRAVES and they had Nancy GRAVES who married > (Capt.) John HANCOCK. > > Just throwing out names in case anyone sees something that will "ring a > bell" in connecting these HANCOCK families. > > Audrey > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 3:44 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Family lines with same Y-DNA--Chart 26 & 3 & > Update > > > Audrey- > > I have come to the conclusion that wedding our lines will be like winning > the > lottery. If we assume Jean and I have correct data and that yours is > correct, > all we can do is fit the two pieces and hope the bond holds. > > I have data back to William, etc and have seen your data for years and never > thought we were the same line. (Arvil looked pretty hard also.) The big > block > for me is that I was convinced we would never find an easy answer so maybe > digging harder? > > I spent my working career in technical research. One way to find the correct > answer is to pick the end result you want and then prove you are right. > (Also > start in the middle and you can go either way.) I think the Johns and > Benjamins must be the solution. > > We need the Rosetta Stone. BobHop > > Visit our home page http://bobhopkins0.tripod.com/ > > > Major family names- Abel, Adams, Anders, Bellisfield, Brock, Byers, Davis, > Dement, Field, Guffey, Hancock, Hockaday, Hopkins, Irvine, McClanahan, > Scarbrough, Shipley, Strother, Stonestreet, Wade, Wampler, Westlake > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > If you have a HANCOCK Genealogy Homepage, and would > like to have it listed on our Links page, send the URL to the > list, or to: [email protected] > > ______________________________ > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Check out our HANCOCK Project World Wide at: > http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/ > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Where to send messages to the list..... > [email protected] > >