Thanks for the offer. I actually have a copy of the book you are referring to, so I do have the article. Simon is my direct ancestor and I do have lots of information on him. I haven't found the records from my discussions with Arvil about this particular William, but will find them eventually. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vera and Verlin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] HANCOCK FAMILY > Lisa, > I have some info on the Augustin Hancock who came to America with his > father William Hancock in 1630. I also have quite a bit on the family of > the Simon Hancock that came from England and settled in what is now called > Princess Ann County, Virginia. I collected this info years ago, before > computer-mania, and I believe the source was a book called " Families Of > Virginia" There is an entire section devoted to various Hancock's who were > among the first to settlers in Virginia. If it's not in your library they > will probably order it for you. In the meantime I will be > happy to share what I have with you, if you want, Just say so. I am new to > this site so I'm not quite sure who has or who wants what, but some of the > members have been so sweet about helping me ( especially Tori) that I would > like to help others in return if I can. God Bless. > . > Have a beautiful day, > > V. Mayfield > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lisa" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 11:02 PM > Subject: [HANCOCK-L] HANCOCK FAMILY > > > > I've been going over the records I have for John Hancock who married > > Susannah Bridges and their line. Anyone needing the sources for the below > > info, let me know. It's going to be too long to include all that too. > > Julia, in trying to make sure these are correct connections, tell me if it > > is possible for John who married to Susannah Bridges to be a descendant of > > Augustine Hancock from the DNA results. If so, I think I have this line > > figured out for the most part. > > > > First, from John's will in Cumberland Co., NC in 1772, we know he has sons > > Robert, Clement, John, and William. There is much speculation that his > wife > > was pregnant at the time and that resulted in a sister for their sons. I > > haven't identified her as yet. Susannah was the daughter of William > Bridges > > (will in Granville Co., NC) and his wife Susannah. > > > > Robert married a lady named Sarah and they moved to Chatham Co, NC where > > they both died. Clement married a lady named Isabella and moved to SC. > He > > was killed 19Nov1781 at Hayes Station, SC. William married Patty Cheek > and > > is believed to be the William found in the Moore Co., NC records. (Moore > > County was formed from Cumberland, so that could have happened without him > > even moving.) John also seems to have been in Moore Co, as Susannah, > John, > > & William are all listed on the 1777 Cumberland Tax List in the area of > > Cumberland that did become Moore Co. I believe either William or John was > > the father of John Hancock who married Clarkey Davis and lived in Moore > Co., > > NC. For a long time, this John was speculated to be the son of John > Hancock > > of Montgomery Co., NC, but some time back I had proven that to be > > impossible. > > > > In Cumberland Co., many records name John Hancock in conjunction with a > man > > named Conner Dowd. It seems Dowd was a man of some means, as he was > > constantly buying and selling land in Cumberland. I also notice that a > > Joshua Hancock is named in conjunction with Conner Dowd in Cumberland as > > well. This makes me think this Joshua is a close relative of John's. > > Conner Dowd was also an executor, along with Susannah, of John's will in > > 1772. In this will, John Hancock left his son, John, 150 acres, where > John > > & Susannah were already living. Checking deeds, John bought this 150 > acres > > from Conner Dowd 7May1771. It is described as being on the south side of > > Deep River. It is interesting that Joshua Hancock bought 150 acres from > > Blair Johnston in 1763 on the north side of Deep River. Joshua then sold > > that 150 acres in 1769 to Randolph Cheek. According to 'Misc. Ancient > > Records of Moore Co., NC, by Rassie Wicker, Conner Dowd fled NC in 1781 > and > > his wife was Mary Overton Shields. > > > > Now, for the parents of John who married Susannah Bridges. All > indications > > point to his parents being John Hancock and Mary ________. This John > > Hancock was the son of John Hancock and Jane Holt, of Surry Co, VA (the > part > > of Surry Co that became Sussex Co). John who married Jane Holt was the > ONLY > > son of William Hancock and Elizabeth Spencer. (John is stated as the only > > son in William's will). William was the on of William Hancock, and > grandson > > of Augustine Hancock. John who married Mary ______ (possibly Bell), had > the > > following children: > > Nicholas (witnessed the wills of his aunt and uncle, William Hancock and > > Elizabeth Phillips) > > Jane m. Hartwell Phillips 24Feb1762 in Sussex Co., VA > > Randolph Hancock m. Ann Jones > > Thomas Hancock > > John Hancock who married Susannah Bridges > > > > I should note here that William Hancock who married Elizabeth Spencer is > the > > William who was a member of the Surry Militia in 1687 and was arrested for > > attending one of their meetings. He, along with Matthew Swann and David > > Phillips were members. It is very interesting because Matthew Swann, and > > his wife Mary Harris, had a daugher named Mary Swann. This Mary Swann > > married William Phillips, son of David Phillips and his wife, Elizabeth > > Emperor. This William and Mary Swann Phillips were the parents of > Elizabeth > > Phillips who married William Hancock, the son of John and Jane Holt > Hancock. > > Hartwell Phillps who married Jane Hancock (listed above) was the son of > John > > Phillps. John Phillips was the brother of this Elizabeth Phillips. > > > > Another interesting point is that in 1740 in Surry Co., VA, I find > listings > > for Clement, Joseph, Robert and William Hancock. Joseph and William are > > likely the sons of John Hancock and Jane Holt. Clement and Robert are > > definately the two Malinda has been searching for. I really have to > wonder > > if they aren't also children of John Hancock and Jane Holt. They couldn't > > be their cousins, as John was the ONLY son of William Hancock and > Elizabeth > > Spencer. The only other explanation could be that they descend from a > > sibling of William who married Elizabeth Spencer. I think that's > unlikely, > > but is possible. > > > > To keep from such long emails, I will continue with a second email on > > Clement Hancock and Isabella's descendants. > > > > Lisa > > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > > Thank you for your support of The HANCOCK Family Discussion List. Please > post your HANCOCK folks periodically so we will all know who you are looking > for. > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Questions about this list? Feel free to contact > the listowner for help at: > <[email protected]> > >

Hi This is a request to V. Mayfield. My Hancock remains a mystery, any help or direction you could offer would be greatly appreciated. My ancestors name was John Hancock. He married second Katy (Catherine) Ramey in 1811 Shenandoah Co Va. His possible birth date was 1764, he died April 10, 1830 in Monogala Co, W VA He died the year they moved to Morgantown W VA in 1830. This was definitly a 2nd marriage for Katy (Ramey) Brown Hancock We think it may also be a 2nd marriage for John but have no way to verify. We are looking for any mention of him that would reference his parents or where he came from. Also do you have the date of publication and the author for Families of Virginia. Thanks for any help your willing to offer. Regards Janet -----Original Message----- From: Lisa [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 2003. szeptember 2. 21:32 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] HANCOCK FAMILY Thanks for the offer. I actually have a copy of the book you are referring to, so I do have the article. Simon is my direct ancestor and I do have lots of information on him. I haven't found the records from my discussions with Arvil about this particular William, but will find them eventually. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vera and Verlin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] HANCOCK FAMILY > Lisa, > I have some info on the Augustin Hancock who came to America with his > father William Hancock in 1630. I also have quite a bit on the family of > the Simon Hancock that came from England and settled in what is now called > Princess Ann County, Virginia. I collected this info years ago, before > computer-mania, and I believe the source was a book called " Families Of > Virginia" There is an entire section devoted to various Hancock's who were > among the first to settlers in Virginia. If it's not in your library they > will probably order it for you. In the meantime I will be > happy to share what I have with you, if you want, Just say so. I am new to > this site so I'm not quite sure who has or who wants what, but some of the > members have been so sweet about helping me ( especially Tori) that I would > like to help others in return if I can. God Bless. > . > Have a beautiful day, > > V. Mayfield > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lisa" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 11:02 PM > Subject: [HANCOCK-L] HANCOCK FAMILY > > > > I've been going over the records I have for John Hancock who married > > Susannah Bridges and their line. Anyone needing the sources for the below > > info, let me know. It's going to be too long to include all that too. > > Julia, in trying to make sure these are correct connections, tell me if it > > is possible for John who married to Susannah Bridges to be a descendant of > > Augustine Hancock from the DNA results. If so, I think I have this line > > figured out for the most part. > > > > First, from John's will in Cumberland Co., NC in 1772, we know he has sons > > Robert, Clement, John, and William. There is much speculation that his > wife > > was pregnant at the time and that resulted in a sister for their sons. I > > haven't identified her as yet. Susannah was the daughter of William > Bridges > > (will in Granville Co., NC) and his wife Susannah. > > > > Robert married a lady named Sarah and they moved to Chatham Co, NC where > > they both died. Clement married a lady named Isabella and moved to SC. > He > > was killed 19Nov1781 at Hayes Station, SC. William married Patty Cheek > and > > is believed to be the William found in the Moore Co., NC records. (Moore > > County was formed from Cumberland, so that could have happened without him > > even moving.) John also seems to have been in Moore Co, as Susannah, > John, > > & William are all listed on the 1777 Cumberland Tax List in the area of > > Cumberland that did become Moore Co. I believe either William or John was > > the father of John Hancock who married Clarkey Davis and lived in Moore > Co., > > NC. For a long time, this John was speculated to be the son of John > Hancock > > of Montgomery Co., NC, but some time back I had proven that to be > > impossible. > > > > In Cumberland Co., many records name John Hancock in conjunction with a > man > > named Conner Dowd. It seems Dowd was a man of some means, as he was > > constantly buying and selling land in Cumberland. I also notice that a > > Joshua Hancock is named in conjunction with Conner Dowd in Cumberland as > > well. This makes me think this Joshua is a close relative of John's. > > Conner Dowd was also an executor, along with Susannah, of John's will in > > 1772. In this will, John Hancock left his son, John, 150 acres, where > John > > & Susannah were already living. Checking deeds, John bought this 150 > acres > > from Conner Dowd 7May1771. It is described as being on the south side of > > Deep River. It is interesting that Joshua Hancock bought 150 acres from > > Blair Johnston in 1763 on the north side of Deep River. Joshua then sold > > that 150 acres in 1769 to Randolph Cheek. According to 'Misc. Ancient > > Records of Moore Co., NC, by Rassie Wicker, Conner Dowd fled NC in 1781 > and > > his wife was Mary Overton Shields. > > > > Now, for the parents of John who married Susannah Bridges. All > indications > > point to his parents being John Hancock and Mary ________. This John > > Hancock was the son of John Hancock and Jane Holt, of Surry Co, VA (the > part > > of Surry Co that became Sussex Co). John who married Jane Holt was the > ONLY > > son of William Hancock and Elizabeth Spencer. (John is stated as the only > > son in William's will). William was the on of William Hancock, and > grandson > > of Augustine Hancock. John who married Mary ______ (possibly Bell), had > the > > following children: > > Nicholas (witnessed the wills of his aunt and uncle, William Hancock and > > Elizabeth Phillips) > > Jane m. Hartwell Phillips 24Feb1762 in Sussex Co., VA > > Randolph Hancock m. Ann Jones > > Thomas Hancock > > John Hancock who married Susannah Bridges > > > > I should note here that William Hancock who married Elizabeth Spencer is > the > > William who was a member of the Surry Militia in 1687 and was arrested for > > attending one of their meetings. He, along with Matthew Swann and David > > Phillips were members. It is very interesting because Matthew Swann, and > > his wife Mary Harris, had a daugher named Mary Swann. This Mary Swann > > married William Phillips, son of David Phillips and his wife, Elizabeth > > Emperor. This William and Mary Swann Phillips were the parents of > Elizabeth > > Phillips who married William Hancock, the son of John and Jane Holt > Hancock. > > Hartwell Phillps who married Jane Hancock (listed above) was the son of > John > > Phillps. John Phillips was the brother of this Elizabeth Phillips. > > > > Another interesting point is that in 1740 in Surry Co., VA, I find > listings > > for Clement, Joseph, Robert and William Hancock. Joseph and William are > > likely the sons of John Hancock and Jane Holt. Clement and Robert are > > definately the two Malinda has been searching for. I really have to > wonder > > if they aren't also children of John Hancock and Jane Holt. They couldn't > > be their cousins, as John was the ONLY son of William Hancock and > Elizabeth > > Spencer. The only other explanation could be that they descend from a > > sibling of William who married Elizabeth Spencer. I think that's > unlikely, > > but is possible. > > > > To keep from such long emails, I will continue with a second email on > > Clement Hancock and Isabella's descendants. > > > > Lisa > > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > > Thank you for your support of The HANCOCK Family Discussion List. Please > post your HANCOCK folks periodically so we will all know who you are looking > for. > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Questions about this list? Feel free to contact > the listowner for help at: > <[email protected]> > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== Check out our HANCOCK Project World Wide at: http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/