Has there been any matches on the Hector Hancock line? Becky On Feb 6, 2013, at 12:56 PM, "Audrey Shields Hancock" <AudreyHancock1939@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Raymond, > > And, yet, other connected testees of # 11050 (Henry Graves Hancock) and # > 249962 (Isom M. Hancock) do not carry this mutation. > > These: #11050 (the above mentioned) and #8906, #N79650, #15362, #12734, and > #192813 are all descendants of Benjamin Hancock & Mary "Polly" Beadles. > Isom M. Hancock's connection is unknown. > > And, #8906 (desc/o Capt. John Hancock) and N79650 (desc/o Capt. John > Hancock) carry a mutation on DYS449, when all the others descendants, as > well as other participants in Chart 3, do not have this mutation. This is > interesting as one brother's descendant has the common marker and another > brother's descendants has the mutation, being children of (Capt.) John > Hancock & Nancy A. Graves. > > Apparently mutations can occur among siblings, or does this indicate > something else of significance? > > Audrey > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hancock-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:hancock-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Raymond Kelly > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:44 PM > To: hancock@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] How Many Markers should you Test for? > > > Hi Julia, > What I see in Group 3 is that we have 8 participants, Kit Number 8902, 8899, > 10903, 21523, 11139, 32682, 76203, and 119362, that match 25/25. > If they upgraded to 37 markers we would have a higher probability of > determining more accurately how closely they are related to the other > participants in Group 3. > In Group 3 the modal value for DYS 607 is 15. However, two participants > 11050, and 249962 have a one step mutation to 14 on DYS 607. Are there > others of the 8 who also have this mutation? > Are there other characteristic markers within that group of 8 participants? > We won't know unless we run the Test. > Best Regards, > Raymond Kelly > > -----Original Message----- > From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 2:02 PM > To: hancock@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] How Many Markers should you Test for? > > Hi Raymond. With all due respect, the tip is useless. I have 8 DNA > Projects with over 2000 members over a span of 11 years and can tell you > from > that experience that some males' DNA mutates more often than others. Some > have > perfect matches on 67 markers but their common ancestor is more than ten > generations away. Some have many mutations but their proven ancestor is only > a few generations away. You can not make general statements about distance > if you haven't seen a person's DNA and compared them to matching DNA. > > Look at Group 1 in the Hancock Project. Most of their mutations are in the > first 25 Markers, so the second set of 37 markers didn't help at all. > Other are the opposite. DNA doesn't lend itself to general statements. > Mutations occur at random, meaning anytime at any place on the STRs. And > they are, > always, between a father and son. > Julia > > > In a message dated 2/5/2013 12:52:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, > RKelly6704@verizon.net writes: > > Greetings Julia, > You can easily verify the accuracy of my statement using the TiP > Calculator > on your Matches page. > > A 25/25 match indicates with a 90% probability that participants share a > Common Ancestor within the past 10 generations. Most of us don't have > paper > trails going back 10 generations. > > A 37/37 match indicates with a 90% probability that participants share a > Common Ancestor within the past 4 generations. > > We have a recent example in Group 3 of the value of upgrading to 37 > markers. > > 15362, Calvin Ward Hancock recently upgraded from 25 to 37 markers. The > data > shows that he has a 37/37 match with 192813, Thomas Hunter Hancock. Their > 37/37 match indicates with a 90% probability that that they share a Common > Ancestor within the past 4 generations. This greatly aids in the search > for > the identity of the Common Ancestor. > > Best Regards, > Raymond Kelly > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:06 PM > To: hancock@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project > > While I do recommend the 37 marker test, the statement below by Raymond is > not correct. DNA can't be pin pointed that way. The DNA results can't be > interpreted until they are in and have DNA matches. > > If you order the 25 markers, you can, always, update later if you wish to > have 37, 67 or 111 markers. It is best to order the most markers that you > can afford. > > Julia French Wood > Administrator, Hancock DNA Project > > > In a message dated 2/5/2013 10:53:37 A.M. Central Standard Time, > RKelly6704@verizon.net writes: > > Henry, > I would encourage you to select the 37 marker Test. 37 markers are > sufficient to confirm a connection within the past 4 generations. 25 > markers > are only sufficient to confirm a connection within the past 10 > generations. > Best Regards, > Raymond Kelly > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Jones > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:41 AM > To: hancock@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project > > Henry, > First of all, I want to urge you to get the DNA test. PLEASE. I doubt you > are connected to the Jamestown Hancocks, but the DNA test will be the only > way to know. > I have been digging through mounds of old research tonight trying to > figure > out where I have seen the genealogy for Henry Grady Hancock III. Julia > assures me it has never been on the Hancock DNA chart. I finally figured > it > out. In 2005 and 2006, Bill Felknor (spelled "nor" as opposed to "ner") > shared a lot of material with me. I know you were once in touch with Bill. > If you don't have the entire genealogy record dating back to Robert b. > 1711 > in VA, I do and will be happy to share it with you. You will need to send > me > your address offline so I can mail everything to you. There's a lot > of paperwork. > Bill Felknor only has documentation going back to Robert b. 1711 in VA. He > speculates that your line goes all the way back to William, born about > 1580 > in England, but your DNA will be the only proof of that speculation. I > even > think there's reason to believe your line may be kin to my line. There's a > lot of overlap in our families, so your DNA test results will be of great > interest to me. > Sue in Texas > > > --- On Mon, 2/4/13, squeezeboxdood@verizon.net > <squeezeboxdood@verizon.net> > wrote: > > From: squeezeboxdood@verizon.net <squeezeboxdood@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project > To: hancock@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, February 4, 2013, 8:12 PM > > > Sue/Julia > I imagine I need to do a DNA test in order to be posted on the DNA > Project. > I want to be in contact with a living breathing family member from that > line. The number I have for Bill Felkner is no longer in service. I > tried > calling him this weekend. I do appreciate all your help in advance. > Was there a William Hancock that came > through Jamestown in 1619 and was > killed in the indian uprising at the Berkley Plantation in 1622? There > are > lots of Hancocks here in the area where I live in Newport News VA., only > about 30 miles from Jamestown. There were lots of Hancocks who were > born > and lived and died right here in this area who were related to his line > if > he did, in fact, exist. My line of the family migrated into the Carolinas > and into Alabama and then into TX. My grandfather/mother then moved to > California and had 3 kids, my father, Henry Grady Hancock,Jr born in Long > Beach, a son, Richard Clem Hancock born in Ojai and a daughter born in > Los > Angeles (who is currently living in Myrtle Creek, OR). I was born in > Bend, > OR but was raised in > CA. I joined the Army in 1977 and traveled the world > and ultimately ended up here in Virginia right back here where William > and > so many of his descendants lived. What a great story I could tell my > grandkids (of which I have 5), that I brought my family back full circle > to > VA where it all began. > Henry > On 02/04/13, JULIAFWOOD@aol.com wrote > > > ------------------------------- > Join our DNA Project at: > http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock > > (Scroll down to place your order) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Join our DNA Project at: > http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock > > (Scroll down to place your order) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe& from the list, please send an email to > HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and > the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Join our DNA Project at: > http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock > > (Scroll down to place your order) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Join our DNA Project at: > http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock > > (Scroll down to place your order) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and > the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Join our DNA Project at: > http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock > > (Scroll down to place your order) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Join our DNA Project at: > http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock > > (Scroll down to place your order) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1430 / Virus Database: 2639/5583 - Release Date: 02/05/13 > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1430 / Virus Database: 2639/5583 - Release Date: 02/05/13 > > ------------------------------- > Join our DNA Project at: > http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock > > (Scroll down to place your order) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message