Jean, Thanks for the info! jean h.n.

Hi Folks, Let me add to what Julia has said about GenConnect, Ancestry.com, and other commercial websites who want you to send your data to them. I remember, very well, a problem on a list (and, I want to say that it was the Hancock list) that happened a few yrs. back. One of our listers shared information from her own family line with the list and was soundly trounced upon by a Brôderbund (sp?) rep who said that she could not "publicly" and "wholesaledly" (is there such a word?---nah) give information from her own GEDCOM because it belonged to them since she gave the info to them! Now folks, this was her own family and this idiot said she could not give the entire GEDCOM to anyone because it did not belong to her!! There was even an "undertone" that Broderbund was willing to sue her if she did not stop sharing immediately! To even list your information under your copyright notice does not guarantee that your information is yours alone if you have freely given it to one of these sites. I, for one, cannot stress strongly enough----do not give all of your information to any of these commercial sites. I have found it far better to put queries on the sites, along with the surnames I am researching, and my email address---if I had my own website, I would give the link to it. Then I am more than happy to share what I have with individuals. I am sure there are several others on our list who have had similar experiences and any one of them can tell you to be careful. Just my 2¢ worth. Jean Hancock in TX ----- Original Message ----- From: <JULIAFWOOD@aol.com> To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Re: Hancock Project I have added and updated all the Webpages that were sent to me on the Hancock Project, except for yours, Jim, as I didn't know which Chart John R. Hancock connects to. Do we already have him on one of our charts or do we need to create a new number? I need your line from the eldest down to yourself to list on the Researcher page along with your Webpage URL. As for GenConnect. I agree it is great to find Documents that have been posted there, and appreciate any that I find, but I would NEVER put my GEDCOM there, as Rootsweb has stated that anything there belongs to them, and they are owned by Ancestry.com. It you put your GEDCOM there if can be taken with ease. Posting to other sites makes it necessary for anyone taking data to type or copy each person at a time. None of the Hancock data that has been entrusted to me will ever be posted on GenConnect. The changes and updates that I have made on the Hancock Project may not be available to view, yet, especially if you have been to the site lately, and still have the old pages in your "history" files (I can't see them, yet). Empty your cache before viewing. Julia French Wood ______________________________

Hi, everyone, Just to dispel a little misinformation. When a GEDCOM is posted on World Connect you have COMPLETE control as to whether you want anyone to download it, and if so, how many generations. Also. a "living filter" can be used for anyone born after 1900. Also, you can control how many generations you want in your GEDCOM to begin with. Just mark the people you want, and make a separate GEDCOM of them. I keep a folder on my desktop just for the GEDCOM's I post to the web. I am grateful for the internet, as I have been able to make connections with a great many cousins, whom I never would have known, if not for the internet. Also, I have been able to find clues as to where to begin looking for those elusive ancestors, and to then write for proper documentation if it is available. Bonnie

Thanks Sandra Clippinger: I think it will be up to the Hancock Project Committee to decide whether they want to make any changes to the website. You may want to contact them My best, Jim Hancock

Hi everyone, I am researching the Hancock family of Forteau, Labrador and looking for information on Joseph Hancock. He was born 1839, married Isabella Cribb at St. Peter's Church, Forteau, Labrador on October 13 1865 died Jan 10, 1923. People in the area believe that Joseph came to Forteau from Englee, NF. If anyone has more information on him or his descendants I'd love to hear from you. Thanks, Karlene (Hancock) Barney

HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Chesterfield Co Marriage bond, 10 Jun 1799 has James Branch and Polly Hancock (daughter of Anania Hancock) recored as married - does anyone have info on Ananias Hancock family - my interest is actually Polly and James who we believe is our missing link > > Bill Branch Chesterfield Co - where? > nanapapa40@earthlink.net > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Check out our HANCOCK Project World Wide at: > http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/ > > __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

Chesterfield County VA, the spelling is as above - I see that I made a typing error one place Thanks Bill

Chesterfield Co Marriage bond, 10 Jun 1799 has James Branch and Polly Hancock (daughter of Anania Hancock) recored as married - does anyone have info on Ananias Hancock family - my interest is actually Polly and James who we believe is our missing link Bill Branch nanapapa40@earthlink.net

I have added and updated all the Webpages that were sent to me on the Hancock Project, except for yours, Jim, as I didn't know which Chart John R. Hancock connects to. Do we already have him on one of our charts or do we need to create a new number? I need your line from the eldest down to yourself to list on the Researcher page along with your Webpage URL. As for GenConnect. I agree it is great to find Documents that have been posted there, and appreciate any that I find, but I would NEVER put my GEDCOM there, as Rootsweb has stated that anything there belongs to them, and they are owned by Ancestry.com. It you put your GEDCOM there if can be taken with ease. Posting to other sites makes it necessary for anyone taking data to type or copy each person at a time. None of the Hancock data that has been entrusted to me will ever be posted on GenConnect. The changes and updates that I have made on the Hancock Project may not be available to view, yet, especially if you have been to the site lately, and still have the old pages in your "history" files (I can't see them, yet). Empty your cache before viewing. Julia French Wood

I bought the census and it is good. I found a ancestor that I wasn't able to find other wise. When and if I ever get done using it I'm going to donate mine to a genealogy and historical society.The info on people is not on census form but if you are a member of ancestry you can go to 1880 census there and match the pages and bingo you got the parents place of birth which is not on LDS cd's. It's still worth the money though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helene Pockrus" <helenepockrus@earthlink.net> To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 5:52 PM Subject: [HANCOCK-L] 1880 Census Index and census > I thought the members of the list might benefit from this info. > > 1880 U.S. Census on CD-ROM Contains Over 50 Million Names > > SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH -- The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day > Saints has announced the release of the 1880 U.S. Census on CD-ROM, a > major research tool for family history enthusiasts. > > The new database is the largest census to be automated to date. It is > the culmination of 17 years and 11.5 million hours of work and > encompasses a whopping 56 CDs. > > By simply entering an ancestor's name, users can quickly search the > 50,475,366 inhabitants of the 38 United States and eight territories > as they existed in June 1880 to discover the whereabouts and other > detailed information regarding their relatives. > > In June 1880, thousands of federal census enumerators--traveling on > foot, horseback and by wagon--combed the inner cities, towns, > backwoods and frontiers of the United States, diligently capturing > detailed information on individuals and their households. With paper > and pencil, they filled out their enumerator sheets containing each > individual's name, relationship to the head of the household, age, > gender, race, marital status, occupation, birthplace and birthplace > of parents. No federal census was taken in Indian Territory, which > comprises present-day Oklahoma. > > "This new automated census has a far-reaching impact on family > history research in the U.S., because it increases access to a highly > significant source of information for all families in all parts of > the U.S. in 1880," said David E. Rencher, director of the Family > History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah. "Because the 1890 census was > destroyed by fire, there is no other federal source like this for 20 > years. It makes the 1880 U.S. Census of tremendous value," added > Rencher. > > Manually finding an ancestor's entry in the 1880 census was an > ominous task until the release of this new searchable database on > CD-ROM. In order to find a person, researchers had to know where an > individual lived at the time. Without knowing an ancestor's place of > residence, family history researchers were mostly unsuccessful in > their attempts to find an individual's census listing. > > In the 1860s and '70s, westward expansion across the U.S. had a > tremendous impact on families. Because of limited sources of > communication during this period, families lost contact with those > who migrated to other parts of America. The whereabouts of these > ancestors became more uncertain with each passing generation. There > were only 38 organized states at the time. > > The majority of the Midwest and West encompassed nine territories. > For family history enthusiasts today, bridging the gap made by > families who crossed the plains can be almost as difficult as > researching those who crossed the ocean. The 1880 census helps to > bridge those gaps. The automated census enables family historians to > find the individuals who migrated and their respective households. > > As with any project of this magnitude, the census data presented many > challenges to those preparing it for automated publication. To ensure > the integrity of the original content, the Church received assistance > from the Minnesota Population Center of the University of Minnesota. > > The new product (all 56 CDs) can be used free of charge at most of > the Church's 3500 family history centers, or it can be purchased for > $49 on the Internet at www.familysearch.org or through the Church's > distribution centers worldwide (1-800-537-5971, item 50168). The > price includes shipping and handling. > > Minimum System Requirements > > * Windows 95/98/ME/NT 4.0+/2000 version > * IBM-compatible Pentium processor > * 8 MB RAM; 16 MB recommended > * 35 MB hard disk space > * 256-color display > * 4x CD-ROM drive > > Source: > 1880 U.S. Census on CD-ROM Contains Over 50 Million Names > LDS Church Press Release 4Jun01 N6 > <A HREF="http://www.lds.org/media2/newsrelease/0,5637,203-1-5277,FF.html"> > http://www.lds.org/media2/newsrelease/0,5637,203-1-5277,FF.html </A> > New Automated Census Provides Glimpse of 19th Century U.S. > >From Mormon-News: Mormon News and Events > Forwarding is permitted as long as this footer is included > Mormon News items may not be posted to the World Wide Web sites > without permission. Please link to our pages instead. > For more information see http://www.MormonsToday.com/ >> > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Feel free to post the data you find on HANCOCK > in your research. Census, bible, wills, marriages, > deaths, cemetery, deeds, tax lists, and other > useful data. You might help a cousin who needs it.

http://www.findagrave.com/surnames.html I found this site to be a growing tool we can all use.

Dear Jim, The idea sounds great. I am the submitter of William Handcock of Maryland and Elizabeth Waters. Is something that I must do for this to happen? Will Julia do the maintainance? Sandra Clippinger slc@blazenet.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <HANSER5@aol.com> To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 8:01 AM Subject: [HANCOCK-L] Re: Hancock Project > List: > > As a followup to my last letter, we might do well to leave the website as it > is, except that underneath The Collected Lines of the HANCOCK / HANDCOCK > Family we could merely have each Chart number link to the Rootsweb > WorldConnect, and each Chart would be maintain by one person. We can then > continue to use the website as the Main Place as it currently is, with just > the different links for each Chart. The website is great for adding links to > those connecting etc. > > Jim Hancock > > > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > If you would like to submit HANCOCK Census records, Wills > or other documents to be posted on our Project Page, > contact: JuliaFWood@aol.com > >

I thought the members of the list might benefit from this info. 1880 U.S. Census on CD-ROM Contains Over 50 Million Names SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH -- The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has announced the release of the 1880 U.S. Census on CD-ROM, a major research tool for family history enthusiasts. The new database is the largest census to be automated to date. It is the culmination of 17 years and 11.5 million hours of work and encompasses a whopping 56 CDs. By simply entering an ancestor's name, users can quickly search the 50,475,366 inhabitants of the 38 United States and eight territories as they existed in June 1880 to discover the whereabouts and other detailed information regarding their relatives. In June 1880, thousands of federal census enumerators--traveling on foot, horseback and by wagon--combed the inner cities, towns, backwoods and frontiers of the United States, diligently capturing detailed information on individuals and their households. With paper and pencil, they filled out their enumerator sheets containing each individual's name, relationship to the head of the household, age, gender, race, marital status, occupation, birthplace and birthplace of parents. No federal census was taken in Indian Territory, which comprises present-day Oklahoma. "This new automated census has a far-reaching impact on family history research in the U.S., because it increases access to a highly significant source of information for all families in all parts of the U.S. in 1880," said David E. Rencher, director of the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah. "Because the 1890 census was destroyed by fire, there is no other federal source like this for 20 years. It makes the 1880 U.S. Census of tremendous value," added Rencher. Manually finding an ancestor's entry in the 1880 census was an ominous task until the release of this new searchable database on CD-ROM. In order to find a person, researchers had to know where an individual lived at the time. Without knowing an ancestor's place of residence, family history researchers were mostly unsuccessful in their attempts to find an individual's census listing. In the 1860s and '70s, westward expansion across the U.S. had a tremendous impact on families. Because of limited sources of communication during this period, families lost contact with those who migrated to other parts of America. The whereabouts of these ancestors became more uncertain with each passing generation. There were only 38 organized states at the time. The majority of the Midwest and West encompassed nine territories. For family history enthusiasts today, bridging the gap made by families who crossed the plains can be almost as difficult as researching those who crossed the ocean. The 1880 census helps to bridge those gaps. The automated census enables family historians to find the individuals who migrated and their respective households. As with any project of this magnitude, the census data presented many challenges to those preparing it for automated publication. To ensure the integrity of the original content, the Church received assistance from the Minnesota Population Center of the University of Minnesota. The new product (all 56 CDs) can be used free of charge at most of the Church's 3500 family history centers, or it can be purchased for $49 on the Internet at www.familysearch.org or through the Church's distribution centers worldwide (1-800-537-5971, item 50168). The price includes shipping and handling. Minimum System Requirements * Windows 95/98/ME/NT 4.0+/2000 version * IBM-compatible Pentium processor * 8 MB RAM; 16 MB recommended * 35 MB hard disk space * 256-color display * 4x CD-ROM drive Source: 1880 U.S. Census on CD-ROM Contains Over 50 Million Names LDS Church Press Release 4Jun01 N6 <A HREF="http://www.lds.org/media2/newsrelease/0,5637,203-1-5277,FF.html"> http://www.lds.org/media2/newsrelease/0,5637,203-1-5277,FF.html </A> New Automated Census Provides Glimpse of 19th Century U.S. >From Mormon-News: Mormon News and Events Forwarding is permitted as long as this footer is included Mormon News items may not be posted to the World Wide Web sites without permission. Please link to our pages instead. For more information see http://www.MormonsToday.com/ >>

Hi everyone, My Hancock link is as follows: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=blueyes3 Bonnie

List: As a followup to my last letter, we might do well to leave the website as it is, except that underneath The Collected Lines of the HANCOCK / HANDCOCK Family we could merely have each Chart number link to the Rootsweb WorldConnect, and each Chart would be maintain by one person. We can then continue to use the website as the Main Place as it currently is, with just the different links for each Chart. The website is great for adding links to those connecting etc. Jim Hancock

Hi all guess I should have sent this to the distribution list, rather than replying directly, as there may be other descendents of Johan Hancock who are haven't found this info yet, and would enjoy. best wishes Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Hancock" <donna@nethancock.com> To: <HANSER5@aol.com> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Re: Hancock Project > Hi Jim > > I see we are both descended at the Samuel Hancock/Johan Hancock level. I > see that you have found a lot of info from Johan Ligon (Lygon) her mother, > and have traced the Ligon/Lygon side back many generations to royalty etc... > > But you're missing info on her father, Thomas Harris. Interestingly, these > websites I found show that he also is linked back to the same royalty! So > both Johan and Thomas were descended from children of Edward I, but from > different marriages. Thomas is descended from Edward II, while Johan is > descended from Prince Thomas of Bretherton. > > This one is great, because it gives lots of narrative about the royalty > (battles, etc...): > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mysouthernfamily/myff/persons.html > It also goes back a ridiculous number of generations. I think I found > something back to 3rd century, having left england, and gone through norway, > sweden and ireland I think. (you know, all those royals married off to > other countries for political reasons). You can surf this one forever, > because it is so comprehensive. > > This is another good one with lots of the same info back to late 1st > century -- I think you probably have all this info: > http://www.worldwidecommerce.com/carter/ click on the Genealogy online link > to see the tree. You can download it all. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <HANSER5@aol.com> > To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 1:28 PM > Subject: [HANCOCK-L] Re: Hancock Project > > > > Hello list: > > > > Julia, if you would like to add the link for my GEDCOM, called "James R > Hancock and Connections," to the Project, here it is: > > > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=hanser5 > > > > I don't know how many names are in the Project but I have over 8000 names, > and use Rootsweb World Connect which is excellent! It is so easy to simply > update at any time. As long as your data is in GEDCOM format there's no > problem. If the main problem is download time then this might be great for > the Project. > > > > We could have volunteers for each line who would be responsible to keep > their lines updated. > > > > When there are conflicts we might discuss them in this forum and unless > there's some kind of consensus then conflicting data could be rejected. > > > > It really is a shame that we don't keep up with the new info as it comes > along. > > > > Jim Hancock > > > > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > > Thank you for your support of The HANCOCK Family Discussion List. Please > post your HANCOCK folks periodically so we will all know who you are looking > for. > > >

Hello list: Julia, if you would like to add the link for my GEDCOM, called "James R Hancock and Connections," to the Project, here it is: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=hanser5 I don't know how many names are in the Project but I have over 8000 names, and use Rootsweb World Connect which is excellent! It is so easy to simply update at any time. As long as your data is in GEDCOM format there's no problem. If the main problem is download time then this might be great for the Project. We could have volunteers for each line who would be responsible to keep their lines updated. When there are conflicts we might discuss them in this forum and unless there's some kind of consensus then conflicting data could be rejected. It really is a shame that we don't keep up with the new info as it comes along. Jim Hancock

Julia, I think this is an excellent idea. I have no idea how to do what you and Lisa did to make the Hancock Project a fact but I knew it had to be a monumental work. You both have done a magnificent job. If there were a Hancock Medal of Valor you both would be sure-fire winners! Jean Hancock in TX ----- Original Message ----- From: <JULIAFWOOD@aol.com> To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Hancock Project In a message dated 06/03/2001 5:28:05 PM Central Daylight Time, HANSER5@aol.com writes: > Hello list: > > Does anyone know whether The Hancock Genealogy Project-Worldwide is making > corrections/changes/additions, etc.? I ask this since I haven't received a > response to several change requests I made many months ago. I am assuming > it > is therefore, inactive. Any info would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > The Hancock Project could, very well, be considered as "inactive". Lisa Craven and I spent countless hours working on the Project in its conception. It was more work than either of us anticipated, and even before we could complete the tedious task of merging, creating and uploading the files, we were inundated with requests for changes to be made. Making changes and adding data isn't as easy as you would believe, as the entire file must be uploaded with any change, and that takes hours. My and Lisa's lives have changed, and there is much demand on our time from our families, our work, and our other interests. We are no longer able or willing to devote all our time to this project. It will, however, stay online, and I find that I receive many emails from people who discover data from the Project, and we continue to gain members to the Hancock list because of contacts from the Project. I have an idea for those who wish updates. Perhaps, instead of having the data for each chart as part of the Project. The Project can describe the Chart as to the lineage, continue to list the researchers of that Chart, but in addition to their name, address and email, we can put a link to their personal Genealogy pages. Each person can create their own family pages, and our link will take anyone there who is interested in viewing it. That way, each researcher can update their own page whenever they have new data, but the Project pages will only change when there is a need to change links, or email address, etc. This will, also, prevent the argument that we had about whose data is correct, when we were trying to merge the GEDCOM files of several researchers. Each can present their own version. As soon as I can, I will add the address of webpages that I have, already, listed on our LINKS page, and anyone who has a Homepage and wishes me to link to it, please, let me know, and let me know from which Chart to link. Julia French Wood ______________________________

Julia- I do not know about the Hancock Project. I assumed it had gone into hibernation. The last hic-cup I know of was when Arvil wanted a change in data from Sille 1937. Thanks. bobHop

Thank you for sending this. It was very interesting. > > This came from another list I am on and is interesting enough to look at- a form of > tombstone/tomb that I had not seen before- Slot and Tab Tombs > > http://www.darkfiber.com/tomb/ > > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Check out our HANCOCK Project World Wide at: > http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/ >