Stop fighting the Civil War. We are all Americans believing in one United States.

I will say AMEN to that.One answerer had the nerve to say the message was godless. Grover Bailey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Casey McAllister" <CaseyMc@pianet.org> To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 3:00 PM Subject: RE: [HANCOCK-L] southern 4th of July > Free Speech??? > > If one person does not agree with another persons statement, that does not > give them the right to bloody the speakers nose for having been offended by > that speach. > > You have every right to put forth your opinion, whether I or anyone else > likes it, because you have a right to free speech. > > You have no right to tell another what speech is acceptable to yourself. > You have every right to ignore it. > > If you do not like what another says...offer your own version to the public > and let them decide for themselves. > > Back in 1776, was it not this very right that was A BIG problem and a major > cause of the war? > > I think you owe an apology for having attempted to encroach upon her rights > to free speach!!! > > Casey > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: janiced@texramp.net [mailto:janiced@texramp.net] > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 3:27 PM > To: HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HANCOCK-L] southern 4th of July > > > > Sorry, I can't let this pass. Godless northern men? What a > Godless and hateful thing to say. Shame on you. > > Janice Walker > Texas > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Where to send messages to the list..... > HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Questions about this list? Feel free to contact > the listowner for help at: > <JuliaFWood@aol.com> >

Isn't it wonderful. They did so so we could all voice our opinions whether they be right or wrong. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Thomson" <rdthomson@atl.mediaone.net> To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:15 PM Subject: RE: [HANCOCK-L] southern 4th of July > Julia, > > My reference was to the revolutionary war, not the war between the states. > Those "who pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor" did > so in rebellion to King George. > > Ray > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Feel free to post the data you find on HANCOCK > in your research. Census, bible, wills, marriages, > deaths, cemetery, deeds, tax lists, and other > useful data. You might help a cousin who needs it.

Amen. ONE NATION UNDER GOD!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <Annlkpt@aol.com> To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] southern 4th of July > Stop fighting the Civil War. We are all Americans believing in one United States. > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > This is a closed list. This means that unless > you are subscribed to the list, you can't post > messages.

Thank you Casey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Casey McAllister" <CaseyMc@pianet.org> To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 1:00 PM Subject: RE: [HANCOCK-L] southern 4th of July > Free Speech??? > > If one person does not agree with another persons statement, that does not > give them the right to bloody the speakers nose for having been offended by > that speach. > > You have every right to put forth your opinion, whether I or anyone else > likes it, because you have a right to free speech. > > You have no right to tell another what speech is acceptable to yourself. > You have every right to ignore it. > > If you do not like what another says...offer your own version to the public > and let them decide for themselves. > > Back in 1776, was it not this very right that was A BIG problem and a major > cause of the war? > > I think you owe an apology for having attempted to encroach upon her rights > to free speach!!! > > Casey > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: janiced@texramp.net [mailto:janiced@texramp.net] > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 3:27 PM > To: HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HANCOCK-L] southern 4th of July > > > > Sorry, I can't let this pass. Godless northern men? What a > Godless and hateful thing to say. Shame on you. > > Janice Walker > Texas > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Where to send messages to the list..... > HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Questions about this list? Feel free to contact > the listowner for help at: > <JuliaFWood@aol.com>

you hit it on the head the UNITED STATES OFAMERICA ! And there still is no more Perfect Nation then this.We have our flaws but we have the right to say our piece and try to change things without imprisonment or getting killed.There is no perfect place on this earth and if it were perfect it would not be this earth .I am greatful for the privileg to live in this country and I am greatful for all those who have fought for this land then and now. May everyone have a great and grateful 4th of July. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Kelly" <beekay@jps.net> To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2094 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] For our southern researchers-Happy 4th > Dear Helen, > > You wrote a beautifully composed letter! As a liberal from California, I > would like to extend my wishes for a happy Fourth of July to ALL our > Hancock relatives, both North and South, and to our United States of > America. > > Barbara Kelly > Moraga, Ca. > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Check out our HANCOCK Project World Wide at: > http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/

Sorry, I can't let this pass. Godless northern men? What a Godless and hateful thing to say. Shame on you. Janice Walker Texas

I'm new to this group, but this doesn't seem to be the appropriate venue for such a discussion. Can we consider all points covered now, and drop this? This isn't the best use of server space. thanks.

Helene, what wonderful thoughts for our July 4th. Thanks also for reminding us of our 'Southern Heritage' . Odessa

AMEN, Malinda! Sue L. > >>>>I will remember that it was Liberty for which they stood against the > legions of the king - not equality, nor the radical egalitarianism that > infects the body politic today and, like an incubus, sucks away at the very > lifeblood of America.>>>>. > > WHAT ?????.....where did this little poison pill come from ? > > I will remember that Washington was offered a Kingdom and said we've had > enough of Kings....and that he was thinking of future Americans with each > step he took and each precedent that he set. I will remember that every > President since has worn his mantle....some of them very badly. > > And I will remember November 2000 and hope we didn't accidentally > "acquire" a little king. > > > > > Helene Pockrus wrote: > > > On this Independence Day, I will remember the fire of liberty that burned in > > the Virginia House of Burgesses, when Patrick Henry, a Southern man, rose to > > declaim, "Give me liberty or give me death." > > > > I will remember those who stood at Concord's "rude bridge that arched the > > flood" and fired the "Shot heard 'round the world." I will remember the > > cold, > > ragged, ill-clad, hungry, frostbitten men who suffered the privations of > > winter at Valley Forge because they counted liberty dearer than the comforts > > of home and hearth. > > > > I will remember General Washington and Light Horse Harry Lee, Southern men > > who grasped the horn of Liberty and refused to let it go. I will recall that > > it was Harry Lee who said that Washington was "First in war, first in peace, > > and first in the hearts of his countrymen." > > > > I will remember the great Republic of Republics those men carved from 13 > > colonies in a corner of the great British Empire. > > > > I will remember that it was Liberty for which they stood against the > > legions of the king - not equality, nor the radical egalitarianism that > > infects the body politic today and, like an incubus, sucks away at the very > > lifeblood of America. > > > > I will remember the second great war for American Independence that was > > fought in 1861 and I will remember that the Republic of Washington, > > Jefferson, and Madison died in that struggle. > > > > I will remember the centralization of a nation and the gradual erosion of > > individual rights in the name of welfare. > > > > I will remember that no man today is truly free to pursue his own economic > > course - that federal mandates, city, county, state and federal taxes weigh > > upon his shoulders until he stoops beneath their burden. > > > > I will remember the freedoms so lightly surrendered by those who prefer to > > wear the chains of welfare than to boldly walk in the free air of liberty. > > > > I will remember that Southern God-fearing men established this Republic > > and that godless Northern men presided over its demise. > > > > I will remember those who fought against insuperable odds at Shiloh, > > Corinth, Vicksburg, The Wilderness, Nashville, and Petersburg. > > I will remember that they sought only the liberty, secured by their sires > > in 1776 and that they too pledged their sacred honor, fortune and lives for > > that principle. > > > > On this Independence Day, I will remember and mourn for fallen heroes who > > lie > > in Flanders' Fields, on Normandy's beaches, in the jungles of Pacific > > islands, on windswept Korean hills, and in forgotten rice paddies in > > Vietnam. > > > > And I will think hard about modern politicians who would sell our liberty > > and > > the blood of America's martyrs to the highest bidder for 30 pieces of > > silver, > > or a mess of pottage. > > > > God bless those Southern men who secured our liberty and watered its tree > > with their own blood. As the nation they established pales further into the > > mists of history, I tremble when I consider the shackles that are forged > > for > > my grandchildren by those who love ease more than liberty. > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > > Check out our HANCOCK Project World Wide at: > > http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/ > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Check out our HANCOCK Project World Wide at: > http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/ >

In a message dated 07/01/2001 12:26:52 PM Central Daylight Time, swarren2@prodigy.net writes: > Just found my husband's great-grandmother's maiden name. She was Catherine > Gardner Hancock. Her parents names are in the subject line. There has been > research done on the ancestors' lines, but can find little on Wm and Mary > Ann, except that William died in 1836 at the age of 28 and Mary Ann married > in 1839 an Alvan Wentworth Chapman. Both William and Alvan were physicians. > > All that I have on this family is the ancestors of William J. HANCOCK. He was the son of William who married Mary JAMES SEARS, 13 September 1806, Craven Co., NC. I have no data on any children of the couple. This is Chart #1 of the Hancock Project: http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/charts.htm Can anyone help Shirley? Julia

Helene, finer words were never written. Thanks for saying them. Bill

Helene: Thank you, I totally agree. Hope your 4th of July will be the best ever. Cathie Langdale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helene Pockrus" <helenepockrus@earthlink.net> To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 10:27 PM Subject: [HANCOCK-L] For our southern researchers-Happy 4th > On this Independence Day, I will remember the fire of liberty that burned in > the Virginia House of Burgesses, when Patrick Henry, a Southern man, rose to > declaim, "Give me liberty or give me death." > > I will remember those who stood at Concord's "rude bridge that arched the > flood" and fired the "Shot heard 'round the world." I will remember the > cold, > ragged, ill-clad, hungry, frostbitten men who suffered the privations of > winter at Valley Forge because they counted liberty dearer than the comforts > of home and hearth. > > I will remember General Washington and Light Horse Harry Lee, Southern men > who grasped the horn of Liberty and refused to let it go. I will recall that > it was Harry Lee who said that Washington was "First in war, first in peace, > and first in the hearts of his countrymen." > > I will remember the great Republic of Republics those men carved from 13 > colonies in a corner of the great British Empire. > > I will remember that it was Liberty for which they stood against the > legions of the king - not equality, nor the radical egalitarianism that > infects the body politic today and, like an incubus, sucks away at the very > lifeblood of America. > > I will remember the second great war for American Independence that was > fought in 1861 and I will remember that the Republic of Washington, > Jefferson, and Madison died in that struggle. > > I will remember the centralization of a nation and the gradual erosion of > individual rights in the name of welfare. > > I will remember that no man today is truly free to pursue his own economic > course - that federal mandates, city, county, state and federal taxes weigh > upon his shoulders until he stoops beneath their burden. > > I will remember the freedoms so lightly surrendered by those who prefer to > wear the chains of welfare than to boldly walk in the free air of liberty. > > I will remember that Southern God-fearing men established this Republic > and that godless Northern men presided over its demise. > > I will remember those who fought against insuperable odds at Shiloh, > Corinth, Vicksburg, The Wilderness, Nashville, and Petersburg. > I will remember that they sought only the liberty, secured by their sires > in 1776 and that they too pledged their sacred honor, fortune and lives for > that principle. > > On this Independence Day, I will remember and mourn for fallen heroes who > lie > in Flanders' Fields, on Normandy's beaches, in the jungles of Pacific > islands, on windswept Korean hills, and in forgotten rice paddies in > Vietnam. > > And I will think hard about modern politicians who would sell our liberty > and > the blood of America's martyrs to the highest bidder for 30 pieces of > silver, > or a mess of pottage. > > God bless those Southern men who secured our liberty and watered its tree > with their own blood. As the nation they established pales further into the > mists of history, I tremble when I consider the shackles that are forged > for > my grandchildren by those who love ease more than liberty. > > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Check out our HANCOCK Project World Wide at: > http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/ >

Thank you Cathie! As a Californian who has researched the South for over 40 years I sometimes feel I am more a Southerner than a westerner. Helene : Fw: [HANCOCK-L] For our southern researchers-Happy 4th Helene: Thank you, I totally agree. Hope your 4th of July will be the best ever. Cathie Langdale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helene Pockrus" <helenepockrus@earthlink.net> To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 10:27 PM Subject: [HANCOCK-L] For our southern researchers-Happy 4th > On this Independence Day, I will remember the fire of liberty that burned in > the Virginia House of Burgesses, when Patrick Henry, a Southern man, rose to > declaim, "Give me liberty or give me death." > > I will remember those who stood at Concord's "rude bridge that arched the > flood" and fired the "Shot heard 'round the world." I will remember the > cold, > ragged, ill-clad, hungry, frostbitten men who suffered the privations of > winter at Valley Forge because they counted liberty dearer than the comforts > of home and hearth. > > I will remember General Washington and Light Horse Harry Lee, Southern men > who grasped the horn of Liberty and refused to let it go. I will recall that > it was Harry Lee who said that Washington was "First in war, first in peace, > and first in the hearts of his countrymen." > > I will remember the great Republic of Republics those men carved from 13 > colonies in a corner of the great British Empire. > > I will remember that it was Liberty for which they stood against the > legions of the king - not equality, nor the radical egalitarianism that > infects the body politic today and, like an incubus, sucks away at the very > lifeblood of America. > > I will remember the second great war for American Independence that was > fought in 1861 and I will remember that the Republic of Washington, > Jefferson, and Madison died in that struggle. > > I will remember the centralization of a nation and the gradual erosion of > individual rights in the name of welfare. > > I will remember that no man today is truly free to pursue his own economic > course - that federal mandates, city, county, state and federal taxes weigh > upon his shoulders until he stoops beneath their burden. > > I will remember the freedoms so lightly surrendered by those who prefer to > wear the chains of welfare than to boldly walk in the free air of liberty. > > I will remember that Southern God-fearing men established this Republic > and that godless Northern men presided over its demise. > > I will remember those who fought against insuperable odds at Shiloh, > Corinth, Vicksburg, The Wilderness, Nashville, and Petersburg. > I will remember that they sought only the liberty, secured by their sires > in 1776 and that they too pledged their sacred honor, fortune and lives for > that principle. > > On this Independence Day, I will remember and mourn for fallen heroes who > lie > in Flanders' Fields, on Normandy's beaches, in the jungles of Pacific > islands, on windswept Korean hills, and in forgotten rice paddies in > Vietnam. > > And I will think hard about modern politicians who would sell our liberty > and > the blood of America's martyrs to the highest bidder for 30 pieces of > silver, > or a mess of pottage. > > God bless those Southern men who secured our liberty and watered its tree > with their own blood. As the nation they established pales further into the > mists of history, I tremble when I consider the shackles that are forged > for > my grandchildren by those who love ease more than liberty. > > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Check out our HANCOCK Project World Wide at: > http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/ > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== Check out our HANCOCK Project World Wide at: http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/

Thank you sir! As a Californian who has researched the South for over 40 years I sometimes feel I am more a Southerner than a westerner. Helene ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bigbill4@aol.com> To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] For our southern researchers-Happy 4th Helene, finer words were never written. Thanks for saying them. Bill ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== If you would like to submit HANCOCK Census records, Wills or other documents to be posted on our Project Page, contact: JuliaFWood@aol.com

In a message dated 07/01/2001 10:12:05 PM Central Daylight Time, helenepockrus@earthlink.net writes: > I will remember that Southern God-fearing men established this Republic > . Is Northerner bashing becoming popular on this list? I wasn't aware that only southerners fought in the American Revolution. And calling all who live in the North "godless" is being overly judgmental isn't it? I am very surprised at you Helene. I thought you were a Christian. I didn't know you harbored such hate. Julia

Dear Helen, You wrote a beautifully composed letter! As a liberal from California, I would like to extend my wishes for a happy Fourth of July to ALL our Hancock relatives, both North and South, and to our United States of America. Barbara Kelly Moraga, Ca.

>>>>I will remember that it was Liberty for which they stood against the legions of the king - not equality, nor the radical egalitarianism that infects the body politic today and, like an incubus, sucks away at the very lifeblood of America.>>>>. WHAT ?????.....where did this little poison pill come from ? I will remember that Washington was offered a Kingdom and said we've had enough of Kings....and that he was thinking of future Americans with each step he took and each precedent that he set. I will remember that every President since has worn his mantle....some of them very badly. And I will remember November 2000 and hope we didn't accidentally "acquire" a little king. Helene Pockrus wrote: > On this Independence Day, I will remember the fire of liberty that burned in > the Virginia House of Burgesses, when Patrick Henry, a Southern man, rose to > declaim, "Give me liberty or give me death." > > I will remember those who stood at Concord's "rude bridge that arched the > flood" and fired the "Shot heard 'round the world." I will remember the > cold, > ragged, ill-clad, hungry, frostbitten men who suffered the privations of > winter at Valley Forge because they counted liberty dearer than the comforts > of home and hearth. > > I will remember General Washington and Light Horse Harry Lee, Southern men > who grasped the horn of Liberty and refused to let it go. I will recall that > it was Harry Lee who said that Washington was "First in war, first in peace, > and first in the hearts of his countrymen." > > I will remember the great Republic of Republics those men carved from 13 > colonies in a corner of the great British Empire. > > I will remember that it was Liberty for which they stood against the > legions of the king - not equality, nor the radical egalitarianism that > infects the body politic today and, like an incubus, sucks away at the very > lifeblood of America. > > I will remember the second great war for American Independence that was > fought in 1861 and I will remember that the Republic of Washington, > Jefferson, and Madison died in that struggle. > > I will remember the centralization of a nation and the gradual erosion of > individual rights in the name of welfare. > > I will remember that no man today is truly free to pursue his own economic > course - that federal mandates, city, county, state and federal taxes weigh > upon his shoulders until he stoops beneath their burden. > > I will remember the freedoms so lightly surrendered by those who prefer to > wear the chains of welfare than to boldly walk in the free air of liberty. > > I will remember that Southern God-fearing men established this Republic > and that godless Northern men presided over its demise. > > I will remember those who fought against insuperable odds at Shiloh, > Corinth, Vicksburg, The Wilderness, Nashville, and Petersburg. > I will remember that they sought only the liberty, secured by their sires > in 1776 and that they too pledged their sacred honor, fortune and lives for > that principle. > > On this Independence Day, I will remember and mourn for fallen heroes who > lie > in Flanders' Fields, on Normandy's beaches, in the jungles of Pacific > islands, on windswept Korean hills, and in forgotten rice paddies in > Vietnam. > > And I will think hard about modern politicians who would sell our liberty > and > the blood of America's martyrs to the highest bidder for 30 pieces of > silver, > or a mess of pottage. > > God bless those Southern men who secured our liberty and watered its tree > with their own blood. As the nation they established pales further into the > mists of history, I tremble when I consider the shackles that are forged > for > my grandchildren by those who love ease more than liberty. > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Check out our HANCOCK Project World Wide at: > http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/

helen, THANK YOU

On this Independence Day, I will remember the fire of liberty that burned in the Virginia House of Burgesses, when Patrick Henry, a Southern man, rose to declaim, "Give me liberty or give me death." I will remember those who stood at Concord's "rude bridge that arched the flood" and fired the "Shot heard 'round the world." I will remember the cold, ragged, ill-clad, hungry, frostbitten men who suffered the privations of winter at Valley Forge because they counted liberty dearer than the comforts of home and hearth. I will remember General Washington and Light Horse Harry Lee, Southern men who grasped the horn of Liberty and refused to let it go. I will recall that it was Harry Lee who said that Washington was "First in war, first in peace, and first in the hearts of his countrymen." I will remember the great Republic of Republics those men carved from 13 colonies in a corner of the great British Empire. I will remember that it was Liberty for which they stood against the legions of the king - not equality, nor the radical egalitarianism that infects the body politic today and, like an incubus, sucks away at the very lifeblood of America. I will remember the second great war for American Independence that was fought in 1861 and I will remember that the Republic of Washington, Jefferson, and Madison died in that struggle. I will remember the centralization of a nation and the gradual erosion of individual rights in the name of welfare. I will remember that no man today is truly free to pursue his own economic course - that federal mandates, city, county, state and federal taxes weigh upon his shoulders until he stoops beneath their burden. I will remember the freedoms so lightly surrendered by those who prefer to wear the chains of welfare than to boldly walk in the free air of liberty. I will remember that Southern God-fearing men established this Republic and that godless Northern men presided over its demise. I will remember those who fought against insuperable odds at Shiloh, Corinth, Vicksburg, The Wilderness, Nashville, and Petersburg. I will remember that they sought only the liberty, secured by their sires in 1776 and that they too pledged their sacred honor, fortune and lives for that principle. On this Independence Day, I will remember and mourn for fallen heroes who lie in Flanders' Fields, on Normandy's beaches, in the jungles of Pacific islands, on windswept Korean hills, and in forgotten rice paddies in Vietnam. And I will think hard about modern politicians who would sell our liberty and the blood of America's martyrs to the highest bidder for 30 pieces of silver, or a mess of pottage. God bless those Southern men who secured our liberty and watered its tree with their own blood. As the nation they established pales further into the mists of history, I tremble when I consider the shackles that are forged for my grandchildren by those who love ease more than liberty.