In a message dated 9/9/2001 9:59:41 PM Central Daylight Time, helenepockrus@earthlink.net writes: > What would it cost to have someone do a webpage for us? Those of us who > can't do HTML might be glad to donate to the cause. Any ideas those of you > who are web smart? > Helene How about $45.00 for a site? Bill Cook ================================== Want your family info online? Don't know how? Let me do it. Very reasonable charge for setting it up and free webspace at Rootsweb. <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/wcook14024/websites4u.html">Genealogy Websites made for you</A> ==================================

Stranger things have happened!! I don't know how they got it, but the big thing with these websites is that all your research becomes the property of whoever owns the site. Even if you click on 'don't submit' when you update your files, if you have loaded it onto these web pages, you have given them the right to do whatever they please with your work. I have no problem with other people getting my information. My problem is with the companies making all the money on our hard work at the expense of other researchers. Sure, the info is on the website if anyone wants to try to take it, but usually they won't go to the trouble to get the files like this. They have plenty giving their work to them outright. Anyway, when the project was put together, one of the first things decided by the list was not to go with this type of website, as many people did not want to turn their info over to someone to make money on it. The least we could do was honor their wishes. Lisa Check out my website at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/7502/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ardath Buckaway" <bqueen@compusmart.ab.ca> To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 6:37 PM Subject: [HANCOCK-L] Selling or giving files > Lisa & Bill, > > I don't know of FTM doing that but others could have submitted your info Lisa, and put your name on it. I definitely know of a situation with Ancestry where that happened. Acutally the one woman gave her files to a cousin to submit, and the cousin put her own name on it. I don't think Ancestry did it, but since she sent it in, they could have. The lady who did the work was wild, and Ancestry did give her the credit after she explained how it happened. It could be that someone took the info off of your site, and sent it in, giving you the credit for it Lisa, because they felt guilty. Do you think that is possible? I am always a little bit afraid of these sites, and yet I would like to see as many people as possible have all the information that has turned up, to help with their lines. I just don't like the idea of them selling my work. > > Ardath > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Feel free to post the data you find on HANCOCK > in your research. Census, bible, wills, marriages, > deaths, cemetery, deeds, tax lists, and other > useful data. You might help a cousin who needs it. >

I have used Family Tree Maker program since 1991 and in those 10 years I have checked NO whenever I reached another milestone and they ask if I would like to submit. I have sent info to several online 'cousins' and have found that information on the World Family Tree CD's of FTM but it was not submitted by me. That is sometimes bothersome but when you give your research away it is no longer yours. Odessa

Lewis Hancock is listed as the head of household in the 1840 census for Hamilton County, Tennessee, on page 148, entry 8. It list his spouse as 30 - 40 yr old. Then there are males 5 and under, two males 10 - 15. There is also two female 5 - 10 yrs. and one female 15 - 20. If somebody has any information about these individuals, please contact me. Jerry P. Hancock

Does anyone out there have any info on a William and Anderson Hancock in Casey Co Ky in 1830 census? Thank you Tamara

I agree that FTM does sell the info that is SUBMITTED TO THEM FROM THEIR PROGRAM , but I know of no instance where FTM has taken any information from anyones website and sold it to the public. I have used it for years and when it asks me if I want to submit my info to them for their CD's I just click on NO. Bill Cook, 7 year FTM user

The reason I replied to the list question and not the private one is that they both came in on the same email download for me. Running slow lately due to a case of walking pneumonia. I will go through files today to pull out the information we have available to go on the website. Will get back with you after I get through some of them. Lisa Check out my website at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/7502/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <HANSER5@aol.com> To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 6:52 AM Subject: [HANCOCK-L] Website info > Hi Lisa: > > I will respond to the list since after I sent you a private email offering my > help, you didn't respond directly back to me about my offer, but responded to > the list. I must agree that my last comment was intended to spur some action. > Sorry about that, but please try to understand how frustrated many of us have > been over the inability to have their lines posted at the Hancock Project. > It's been a very long time of waiting. > > Most importantly, I really like your game plan! If we can send you the > formatted info, you can post it at the site. I will get the software as soon > as I can, and let you know. > > My address: James R. Hancock, 1409 Lancaster Essex Ct., Louisville, KY 40241 > > Thanks for continuing with the Project! > > My best, > Jim Hancock > > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Thank you for your support of The HANCOCK Family Discussion List. Please post your HANCOCK folks periodically so we will all know who you are looking for. >

Hi again Lisa: You have probably already considered this, but is there a reason that the Project can't simply use a program simliar to what WorldConnect uses, which allows downloading gedcoms? What I mean is this: I use Family Tree Maker program. I keep my FTM file updated with any new info/changes, etc. I have my gedcom with over 8000 names at Rootsweb's WorldConnect Project. When I want to update at WorldConnect, I simply make a copy of my FTM file (which has the current info) in gedcom format, and send the gedcom to WorldConnect. This way all I need do is keep my FTM program info current, and from time to time update at WorldConnect. Is there a similar way we can have such a master gedcom for each line at the Project which is we can keep updating? Jim

Ardath, I have no preference on the software. I would not spend alot on it, as all the ones I've tried are very much the same. You won't need lots of the add-ins that run the cost up on the software. Once you have it, let me know and we'll get you started. I think my server was having trouble this morning. In case I misspelled it though, my address is lpcraven@triad.rr.com Lisa Check out my website at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/7502/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ardath Buckaway" <bqueen@compusmart.ab.ca> To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 9:18 AM Subject: [HANCOCK-L] Lisa > Lisa, > > I will check out the software, prices etc. in the next day or so, and get back to you. I hope others will also join us, and help you out in anyway they can. It isn't fair that only a few should work so hard and the rest enjoy the fruits. This is a great list. I hope that our input does actually help. We don't need arguments, we need to cooperate, which is what I was trying to impress on everyone. You shouldn't have to be overloaded before others are willing to help. The stress alone, will effect your health also, as is will for Julia, John and others. I know Arvil is trying to retire, and others do need to step forward. I am not a new comer to research so I do know how and what to do. I have helped a lot of people, even with their brick walls, and others have helped me. > > If there is a particular program that you prefer, please let me know, since I will purchase it, it could be whatever you suggest. > > I had to send this to the list because your E-mail address was rejected. Do you have another one? > Ardath > > My address is: > > Ardath Buckaway, > 18908-80 Ave., > Edmonton, AB > Canada, T5T 5B7 > > E-mail bqueen@compusmart.ab.ca > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Check out our HANCOCK Project World Wide at: > http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/ >

Lisa, Could you send me an E-mail from your own E-mail address, and I will see if I can send a reply, if I get it. This is so strange. Ardath

Hi Lisa, My son had Microsoft Office 2000. He did an upgrade off the net, and from his discs. I will wait for tomorrow so he can check it. It should have "Front Page" in it which has most everything. I didn't have to spend a penny, which was nice. He had purchased it but registered it on line, on my computer, so it is really registered to me but my son used it for our business, not on line. We have 3 PC's but only mine is on line, and I have the high speed internet - on the phone lines, but not on cable or TV. Too many problems yet. I went pricing them today, and was told that if we have Microsoft Office 2000, which is the professional productivity Disc, it should have everything I need. I remembered my son buying it so here I am, almost ready to go. He did an install tonight, but had to go out, so it will be tomorrow before I know that everything is up and working. Because I do have him as my back-up, I am reasonably confidient I can do whatever you need. I was a typist which should help also. Most of the upgrades are on the net, once you have purchased the orginial discs, so it is just a matter of having the patience to wait while they down load, check the files and do the changes. I am lucky, but I hope the others will also pitch in, if not, I'll just keep plugging away at it. I'll drop you a quick note tomorrow to let you know if it is working. I still have trouble sending to your E-mail address. I use Outlook Express, but I have no idea why this problem. Ardath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa" <lpcraven@triad.rr.com> To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Lisa > Ardath, > > I have no preference on the software. I would not spend alot on it, as all > the ones I've tried are very much the same. You won't need lots of the > add-ins that run the cost up on the software. Once you have it, let me know > and we'll get you started. > > I think my server was having trouble this morning. In case I misspelled it > though, my address is lpcraven@triad.rr.com > > Lisa > Check out my website at > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/7502/index.html > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ardath Buckaway" <bqueen@compusmart.ab.ca> > To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 9:18 AM > Subject: [HANCOCK-L] Lisa > > > > Lisa, > > > > I will check out the software, prices etc. in the next day or so, and get > back to you. I hope others will also join us, and help you out in anyway > they can. It isn't fair that only a few should work so hard and the rest > enjoy the fruits. This is a great list. I hope that our input does actually > help. We don't need arguments, we need to cooperate, which is what I was > trying to impress on everyone. You shouldn't have to be overloaded before > others are willing to help. The stress alone, will effect your health also, > as is will for Julia, John and others. I know Arvil is trying to retire, > and others do need to step forward. I am not a new comer to research so I > do know how and what to do. I have helped a lot of people, even with their > brick walls, and others have helped me. > > > > If there is a particular program that you prefer, please let me know, > since I will purchase it, it could be whatever you suggest. > > > > I had to send this to the list because your E-mail address was rejected. > Do you have another one? > > Ardath > > > > My address is: > > > > Ardath Buckaway, > > 18908-80 Ave., > > Edmonton, AB > > Canada, T5T 5B7 > > > > E-mail bqueen@compusmart.ab.ca > > > > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > > Check out our HANCOCK Project World Wide at: > > http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/ > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > If you would like to submit HANCOCK Census records, Wills > or other documents to be posted on our Project Page, > contact: JuliaFWood@aol.com >

Lisa, I will check out the software, prices etc. in the next day or so, and get back to you. I hope others will also join us, and help you out in anyway they can. It isn't fair that only a few should work so hard and the rest enjoy the fruits. This is a great list. I hope that our input does actually help. We don't need arguments, we need to cooperate, which is what I was trying to impress on everyone. You shouldn't have to be overloaded before others are willing to help. The stress alone, will effect your health also, as is will for Julia, John and others. I know Arvil is trying to retire, and others do need to step forward. I am not a new comer to research so I do know how and what to do. I have helped a lot of people, even with their brick walls, and others have helped me. If there is a particular program that you prefer, please let me know, since I will purchase it, it could be whatever you suggest. I had to send this to the list because your E-mail address was rejected. Do you have another one? Ardath My address is: Ardath Buckaway, 18908-80 Ave., Edmonton, AB Canada, T5T 5B7 E-mail bqueen@compusmart.ab.ca

It sounds a bit like you are trying to put us on the spot with this comment. Since you send your email to volunteer only to me, everyone doesn't know that you have volunteered to help. So far, of the 3 volunteers, no one is able to actually work on the website, as it is not something I can send you instructions to do in an email. First of all, all 3 of you will need some sort of web design software. Doesn't really matter which one as long as it does the htm formatting for you. I will send you all the settings for the pages that you need to load. Then I also need your snail mail addresses in order to send you information that needs to be typed into these htm formatted sheets. I have stacks of documents that we had planned to put online that you can type up. Once you have these completed and ready for the site, you will need to send them via email to me as an attachment and I will upload and link them to the actual site. I will do that part of it since you don't have web design experience, as it is something that you can't be instructed to do in one easy email. It is a bit like any other type of computer programming and not something that you just follow a list of instructions to do. If you'd prefer to send your addresses off the list, my email is lpcraven@triad.rr.com. Helene, I already have your address, and will get with you on this as soon as you let me know that you have the needed software and are ready to roll on it. I will wait to hear from each of you. This is great. At long last, maybe some of this information can be put online that will help everyone researching the Hancock family. As far as working on the lines, that is just major a web design that I will start trying to draw up. I will get back in touch with the list when I am ready for your input. I will try to do this in small pieces to build into the project to help prevent overload again. I will warn everyone though, my time is very limited right now. Lisa Check out my website at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/7502/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <HANSER5@aol.com> To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 4:10 AM Subject: [HANCOCK-L] Re: HANCOCK-D Digest V01 #192 > So, how about it committee? Do you want some help? I count 3 volunteers so > far... > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Check out our HANCOCK Project World Wide at: > http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/ >

> Hi Everyone, I'm new to doing a geneaology search and much of the terminology is foreign to me, as well as the formatting and all the little numbers on the lists I have seen. I also have no idea how to make a "gedcom" or even what it is. I'm starting with info handwritten by my Grandmother and Aunt,plus my additions. After looking at other listings, it really is bare bones. Hopefully, someone can help me make some connections and offer some advice. If folks are still living, do I need their permission to list them? Information about any of the people here would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help. Linda Watson John Louis Hancock b. Nov 26, 1866 or 69 d. March 16, 1940 m. 1886 or 1887 Mary Isabelle Neal B Dec.23.1870 d. Aug.27.1914 TX. Mary was raised by her maternal grandmother, Granny Buck. They were both indentured and Granny Buck took Mary to the Hancock plantation to work. After marrying her, John was ostracized by his family. Mary died giving birth at home along with the baby. Through the wall, Alice Catherine, heard her mother state to the doctor, "I'm going to die, aren't I?" To which he replied, "Yes, and so will the baby." After Mary died, John destroyed all but one of the photographs of Granny Buck. When his 12-year-old daughter Lois realized what he was doing, she hid the photo, saving it from destruction. William Sherman Hancock b Mar.8.1890 d Oct.14.1951 Alice Catherine Hancock b. Sep.16.1892 Powersburg, Wayne Co., KY; d. Oct.12.1977 Van Nuys, CA ; m. Apr.22.1915 at home in Gainesville, TX to Enos Byrd (Bird) Spurgeon Hilton aka Dock; b. July 22, 1889 or 1881 Scott County, VA; d. Aug 15, 1949 Van Nuys, CA . Alice and Dock met at West View church in Gainesville, TX. They came to California in 1926 or 27; five children (My grandparents) Rachel Hancock - She lived only a few days. Sarah Ethel Hancock b May.30.1895; d July.15.1910 from burn injury two weeks after her dress caught on fire. She was home with her older sister, Alice, preparing supper while the rest of the family was at church. After her dress caught fire from the stove, she ran outside and ran around the house a time or two before Alice was able to catch her and throw her to the ground. Omar Greenberry Hancock b June.23.1897 d. July.6.1974 m. Ruth Bert Filmore Hancock b. Sep.1.1899; d. Aug.12.1938 Bertha Lois Hancock b. Sep.2.1902; d. Apr.26.1990 Escondido, CA; m. Herbert Ohm, artist and photographer; m. Mullins; no children Samuel Cecil Hancock b.June.6.1905; d. Feb.11.1963 Altadena,CA.; m. Dorothy; 1 daughter James Herbert Hancock b. Jan.19.1907; d. Oregon; m. Margorie b. d.; one daughter deceased Charles Albert Hancock b. Nov.11.1908; p.o.w. WWII; d. San Diego, CA; m. Julia b.d.; no children Porter (Pote) Horace Hancock b. Oct.17.1911; d. Sep.3,1978 Ojai, CA; m. two daughters ------------------ Alice Catherine Hancock and Enos Byrd (Bird) Hilton; five children (two deceased): Marguerite Francis Hilton b. Apr .7.1918 Era, TX; d. Feb.3.1970 Oxnard, CA. m. had one male child. Owned The Dog House is El Rio, CA. Sylvia Pauline Hilton b Jan.27.1920 Era, TX; d. 1995 Santa Cruz, CA; m. William O. Pylant three males > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Check out our HANCOCK Project World Wide at: > http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/

So, how about it committee? Do you want some help? I count 3 volunteers so far...

Sorry for the lousy spelling in last message. Trying to hurry too much tonight. Been babysitting and am a bit tired. One decided to spend the night as well. Helene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helene Pockrus" <helenepockrus@earthlink.net> To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:30 PM Subject: [HANCOCK-L] Lisa, John, Julia and Arvil I have access to the AF and IGI, Pedigree Resource files, 1880 census and other things of resource value in my home and also the University Library. I know how to do gedcoms effectively and correctly with match and merge but am not literate in web design or uploading to a site. Lisa, Julia and John and Arvil you are aware I will do lookups and help if there were a way but have limitations. If any of you 4 want my help in a manner you feel is needed, let me know. Sorry I haven't the computer smarts of the web! Helene ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== If you have a HANCOCK Genealogy Homepage, and would like to have it listed on our Links page, send the URL to the list, or to: JuliaFWood@aol.com

I have access to the AF and IGI, Pedigree Resource files, 1880 census and other things of reseource value in my home and also the Univesity Library. I know how to do gedcoms effectively and correctly with match and merge but am not literate in web design or uploading to a site. Lisa, Julia and John and Arvil you are aware I will do lookups and help if there were a way but have limitations. If any of you 4 want my help in a manner you feel is needed, let me know. Sorry I haven't the computer smarts of the web! Helene

I don't think that sentence was needed, - "All of us are not sucking sour pickles! " It is such comments that cause squabbles on lists, and is inflamatory. What is needed is volunteers, willing to pitch in and help Lisa & Julia during a time of crisis. I would certainly be willing, and although I couldn't design a Web Site, I am sure there are jobs I could do. It is all well and good to hand out the bouquets, but they don't need to be buried under a ton of flowers, they need help!! Who is willing? There must be knowledgeable people on this list who could do something, so let's speak up, and if you don't, you have no reason to either complain, or to hand out rewards. Just my two bits worth. Ardath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Nivinski" <jean_n@pacbell.net> To: <HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Hancock Charts > Lisa, > All of us are not sucking sour pickles! I and many others really do > appreciate what you have done for us and you have our whole hearted > THANKS! > jean h.n. > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Questions about this list? Feel free to contact > the listowner for help at: > <JuliaFWood@aol.com> >

Lisa, All of us are not sucking sour pickles! I and many others really do appreciate what you have done for us and you have our whole hearted THANKS! jean h.n.

William Hansen Hancock mrd Lou Greathouse. Their son Wiles Ingerham Hancock is my father. He was b 26 Sep 1916 in KS. Maybe Severence. Other children of William and Lou Hancock were Jim, John, and Susan. I believe Willim Hansen remarried. He died in St Joseph, Buchanan Co., MO. I would like infoirmation about William H and Lou Greathouse Hancock and other members of this family. Thank you for any help. Nancy