In a message dated 04/28/2003 7:03:57 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I know and can't help there. Major 1770-186? was my last male Hancock. I > have signed up for the Hopkins DNA but it may be another generation before > they send the kit. BobHop > Bob, is it coming straight from the company or from the group? The company we use takes only a week at the most to get the kit to you. Perhaps you should inquire about it. Julia

In a message dated 04/28/2003 6:57:49 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I just ready your reply to Cindy Davis about DNA testing. I assume one of > my > sons would qualify as my Mother (their Grandmother) is a direct descendant > of > William L. and Sarah Harding. I guess I need more information about the > testing and the kits. > No, Theda, you have the same problem as I. My mother's mother was a Hancock, but the Y-chromosome DNA is only passed from father to son, so your mother doesn't have the DNA. Your grandfather, Hancock, or any of his brothers, sons, nephews or male cousins, or if your mother has brothers, nephews or male cousins. They must be named Hancock and will have the DNA of William L. Hancock. Julia

I'm curious if you know the source of the dates here. The locations look right, but I found a marriage record the Catharine to James Gardner in Floyd Co., IN dated 1831. And , based on the 1840 census of them in Floyd Co., Catharine would seem to have been born between 1800-1810. I've seen other's files that show other, earlier years for her birth also, and have never figured out if there's some info on her somewhere I'm missing. I suppose it could be somebody trying to match known daughters names with the females listed in the 1800/1810/1820 census.... Aaron On Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:32:53 EDT, [email protected] wrote: >Aaron - > >I am a descendant of William and Sarah on my Mother's side of the >family. >Catherine was born in Jefferson Co., KY in 1788, married a man named >Gardner >in 1807. I don't have a date of death for her. I have quite a lot >of >information on the Hardings. I also have the siblings of Catherine >and will >be happy to share what I have. > >Theda Kells Hoyt > > >==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== >If you would like to submit HANCOCK Census records, Wills >or other documents to be posted on our Project Page, >contact: [email protected] -- A Underwood, [email protected] on 4/28/2003

Julia - Just re-read your info about the DNA project. Guess my sons would not qualify because they have two female Hancocks in between the male line. However, I have a cousin who is a direct descendant in the male line. Guest I'll see if he's interested in testing. Theda Kells Hoyt

In a message dated 4/28/03 4:29:58 PM, [email protected] writes: << I will be happy to begin with one. >> Julia- I know and can't help there. Major 1770-186? was my last male Hancock. I have signed up for the Hopkins DNA but it may be another generation before they send the kit. BobHop Visit our home page http://bobhopkins0.tripod.com/ Major family names- Abel, Adams, Anders, Bellisfield, Brock, Byers, Davis, Dement, Field, Guffey, Hancock, Hockaday, Hopkins, Irvine, McClanahan, Scarbrough, Shipley, Strother, Stonestreet, Wade, Wampler, Westlake

In a message dated 4/28/03 4:07:21 PM, [email protected] writes: << John D. Hancock did have a son, William Wesley Hancock, who married Martha "Patsy" Rutherford. Bill >> Bill- Can you supply some dates and locations please? The John D in question was born 1733. Thanks. bobHop Visit our home page http://bobhopkins0.tripod.com/ Major family names- Abel, Adams, Anders, Bellisfield, Brock, Byers, Davis, Dement, Field, Guffey, Hancock, Hockaday, Hopkins, Irvine, McClanahan, Scarbrough, Shipley, Strother, Stonestreet, Wade, Wampler, Westlake

Julia - I just ready your reply to Cindy Davis about DNA testing. I assume one of my sons would qualify as my Mother (their Grandmother) is a direct descendant of William L. and Sarah Harding. I guess I need more information about the testing and the kits. Theda Kells Hoyt

Julia - I don't know what all is involved with the DNA project, but my Grandfather Henry Clay Hancock was a great grandson of William L. and Sarah Harding. His father was William V. Hancock (m. Rhoda Dunnagan) and his grandfather was William Hancock (m. Sarah Asher). Having so many Grandfathers named William hasn't made research really easy. Theda Kells Hoyt

Aaron - I am a descendant of William and Sarah on my Mother's side of the family. Catherine was born in Jefferson Co., KY in 1788, married a man named Gardner in 1807. I don't have a date of death for her. I have quite a lot of information on the Hardings. I also have the siblings of Catherine and will be happy to share what I have. Theda Kells Hoyt

In a message dated 04/28/2003 3:10:06 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I agree with Cindy and hope you can get a DNA on the line. Benjamin and > John "D" may have a lot of excess children and this is about the only > chance > to get it worked out. BobHop > In the case of "excess" children we need to get a male DNA sample from each line to see which ones are really descendents. But, I will be happy to begin with one. Julia

Julia- I agree with Cindy and hope you can get a DNA on the line. Benjamin and John "D" may have a lot of excess children and this is about the only chance to get it worked out. BobHop Visit our home page http://bobhopkins0.tripod.com/ Major family names- Abel, Adams, Anders, Bellisfield, Brock, Byers, Davis, Dement, Field, Guffey, Hancock, Hockaday, Hopkins, Irvine, McClanahan, Scarbrough, Shipley, Strother, Stonestreet, Wade, Wampler, Westlake

Cindy, John D. Hancock did have a son, William Wesley Hancock, who married Martha "Patsy" Rutherford. They reared 10 children. This is my line, and I have a pretty good Genealogical lineup of this leg of the family. William Wesley had a brother, John Mark Hancock, and a brother Henry. William Wesley also had one son, John Duren Hancock, and 9 daughters. John Duren was may grandfather. He died in 1932. Bill

Hi, Just curious, since I have no eligible male donor, were there any donors from the Hancock line from Springfield, Mass? Paula Hancock Roberts

In a message dated 04/28/2003 12:30:52 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > What are they doing with the DNA project? Never heard much about it. There > > are men descendents in my line Hancock/Hardin, Hancock/Asher line. Can you > > give me a little info on what they are looking for &what they need for > testing? Cindy > The DNA test requires a male of the surname of Hancock, as the Y-chromosome DNA that is used for Genealogy testing is passed from father to son, to son, to son, etc., forever with little or no change. So if you should submit the DNA of a male from your line, and it should match another participant, it would prove that you are from the same line. Comparing your paper research, would help to find your Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA). We began this Project only a few weeks ago, so we have no results in, yet. We have nine who have ordered the Test Kits and seven have been returned to the lab. The results will be posted with an ID# plus the Earliest Known Ancestor of each participant. After this first round of results are in, we will know what other Hancocks we need to test in each line to try for more matches and to answer those brickwall questions that have plagued researchers for years. In my French line, I got a match on the first round and got past the place where all of us FRENCH researchers had been stuck for years. Our HANCOCK DNA website will help to answer questions and from there you can join the group by clicking on "Order your DNA Test Kit". We recommend the second choice which is the Y-DNAplus, but the Y-DNA test is very useful, also, and can be upgraded at a later date if desired. Let know if you have more questions. http://www.small-stuff.com/HANCOCK/DNA/ Julia French Wood Adm. Hancock DNA Project

What are they doing with the DNA project? Never heard much about it. There are men descendents in my line Hancock/Hardin, Hancock/Asher line. Can you give me a little info on what they are looking for & what they need for testing? Cindy

Cindy, it would be good if you could come up with a male Hancock from this line to be tested in our DNA project. Julia In a message dated 04/28/2003 11:47:35 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > My line is thru Wm. &Sarah Hardin Hancock and their son William Jr. who > married Sarah Asher. I have never felt comfortable with the idea that > Williams' father was John D. Hancock and the Patrick Co. line. Don't know > > for sure who he belonged to since there are so many Hancocks in Virginia. > For myself, I am ok with Wm &Sarah Hardins' marriage in Va. and to Kentucky > > forward. I don't have much on Catherine or a lot of the other children of > theirs. Mostly what I have gotten is from other people. My line went from > > Kty to Owen Co. Indiana. Just my opinion on the John D business. I always > > kind of felt Wm was connect to John D. just for the purpose of someone > wanting into DAR. John D. did have a son William but doubt if he is 'my' > William. But that's just my opinion, Cindy D >

My line is thru Wm. & Sarah Hardin Hancock and their son William Jr. who married Sarah Asher. I have never felt comfortable with the idea that Williams' father was John D. Hancock and the Patrick Co. line. Don't know for sure who he belonged to since there are so many Hancocks in Virginia. For myself, I am ok with Wm & Sarah Hardins' marriage in Va. and to Kentucky forward. I don't have much on Catherine or a lot of the other children of theirs. Mostly what I have gotten is from other people. My line went from Kty to Owen Co. Indiana. Just my opinion on the John D business. I always kind of felt Wm was connect to John D. just for the purpose of someone wanting into DAR. John D. did have a son William but doubt if he is 'my' William. But that's just my opinion, Cindy D

Is anyone doing the DNA testing from Hector Hancock's line? We are from a female, so cannot participate. I am very curious to hear what happens with him. He is our puzzle. Becky At 01:45 PM 4/28/2003 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 04/28/2003 12:30:52 PM Central Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > > > What are they doing with the DNA project? Never heard much about > it. There > > > > are men descendents in my line Hancock/Hardin, Hancock/Asher line. Can > you > > > > give me a little info on what they are looking for &what they need for > > testing? Cindy > > > >The DNA test requires a male of the surname of Hancock, as the Y-chromosome >DNA that is used for Genealogy testing is passed from father to son, to son, >to son, etc., forever with little or no change. So if you should submit the >DNA of a male from your line, and it should match another participant, it >would prove that you are from the same line. Comparing your paper research, >would help to find your Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA). We began this >Project only a few weeks ago, so we have no results in, yet. We have nine >who have ordered the Test Kits and seven have been returned to the lab. > >The results will be posted with an ID# plus the Earliest Known Ancestor of >each participant. After this first round of results are in, we will know >what other Hancocks we need to test in each line to try for more matches and >to answer those brickwall questions that have plagued researchers for years. > > >In my French line, I got a match on the first round and got past the place >where all of us FRENCH researchers had been stuck for years. > >Our HANCOCK DNA website will help to answer questions and from there you can >join the group by clicking on "Order your DNA Test Kit". We recommend the >second choice which is the Y-DNAplus, but the Y-DNA test is very useful, >also, and can be upgraded at a later date if desired. > >Let know if you have more questions. > >http://www.small-stuff.com/HANCOCK/DNA/ > >Julia French Wood >Adm. Hancock DNA Project > > >==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== >Where to send messages to the list..... >[email protected]

Odessa, I think Oliver Hancock was the nephew of Dionysis Oliver. I am sorry for the mistake. Mary Wolfe

I don't know if this is coincidence or not. I saw the name Dionysis and Oliver Hancock Tillman in the list. Dionysis Oliver was from Edgefield, SC. Oliver Hancock was probably his brother-in-law. Both lived in Edgefield, SC. Originally they were from Petersburg, VA. Dionysis Oliver founded the town of Petersburg, GA at where the Broad River and the Savannah River come together. This town is now under the waters of Lake Thurman. Oliver Hancock, his brother John Hancock, his brother Thomas Hancock's widow, and maybe another brother William Hancock moved to Talbot County, GA in the 1830s. I have a family line for Oliver Hancock if you need it. Mary Wolfe