Hi Tom and all, I spoke with my son, Gentry, in Martinsville, VA, this morning and he has been very busy for us! First to tell you is he found out that there is going to be a Hancock family reunion at Fairy Stone State Park (about 15 miles from there) in Patrick County at 1:00 on this Sunday. He and his family (with our little 8 year old Virginia HANCOCK Z.) are attending and he will take your information with him and ask around. He spoke with a friend of his, Desmond Kendrick, who is Vice President of the Henry County Courthouse Association and the Archivist who has made a special study of the cemetaries in Henry and Patrick counties, and Desmond is going to help him on this project. Also, he spoke with a friend who knows where the old Hancock place is and will follow up on that. So we're off to a good start, I think. I'm living in Florida now so can't do much looking myself, but I'll be there in Virginia for a week (leaving Wed.) and will catch up on what I can with him. In the meanwhile you all can correspond with each other. Gentry and/or I will keep everyone informed. My best to all, Kathryn Hancock Senatore

Ruth, Is the Jeremiah Hancock that you are looking for, the son of James Hancock, and Jestern? If so, I have names of his children and their spouces. And if he was born in 1804 and died in 1864.

Even though I've not yet found our Jeremiah Hancock, I just want to say that in reading the Hancock postings I'm really proud to be descended from a Hancock. Such a nice, helpful group of folks you are! Good for you!! Ruth C.

Hi Kathyrn, First, let me apologize for not responding sooner, but I was a little under the weather the last several days. I am delighted with your offer of your son's in locating John D. Hancock's grave, and will respond by email to you and your son. Thank you very much, -Tom Melton [email protected] wrote: Hi Tom, I'm a Hancock from Henry County, VA, and my late husband's father, g-father and g-g-grandfather were from Patrick Springs in Patrick County right next door. I'm descended from the Samuel / Mildred Dawson, son Dawson H./Sarah "Sallie" Harris, son William D./Nancy Elizabeth Golithan line. My son lives in Martinsville (Henry County) and when I spoke with him this morning about your search he said he'd be glad to go up to P. Springs and look for you. I'm going to forward your e-mails to him and if you want to e-mail him directly his name is E. Gentry Zentmeyer and his e-mail address is [email protected] I'll give him your e-mail address if it's alright with you and maybe we can get some work done for you here. He was delighted when I told him, is very interested in our genealogy, and volunteered to help you before I asked. Wishing you the best, Kathryn Hancock Senatore [email protected] ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== If you have a HANCOCK Genealogy Homepage, and would like to have it listed on our Links page, send the URL to the list, or to: [email protected] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

Hi Tom, I'm a Hancock from Henry County, VA, and my late husband's father, g-father and g-g-grandfather were from Patrick Springs in Patrick County right next door. I'm descended from the Samuel / Mildred Dawson, son Dawson H./Sarah "Sallie" Harris, son William D./Nancy Elizabeth Golithan line. My son lives in Martinsville (Henry County) and when I spoke with him this morning about your search he said he'd be glad to go up to P. Springs and look for you. I'm going to forward your e-mails to him and if you want to e-mail him directly his name is E. Gentry Zentmeyer and his e-mail address is [email protected] I'll give him your e-mail address if it's alright with you and maybe we can get some work done for you here. He was delighted when I told him, is very interested in our genealogy, and volunteered to help you before I asked. Wishing you the best, Kathryn Hancock Senatore [email protected]

http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tn/wilson/deeds/deedbk-y.txt WILSON COUNTY TN - DEEDS - Abstracts of Deed Book Y of Wilson County, TN ********************************************************************************************************** Copyright. All rights reserved. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/copyright.htm This file was contributed for use in the USGenWeb Archives by: Carol Radford <[email protected]> ********************************************************************************************************** Subject: A few surnames from Deed Book Y of Wilson County, TN Hope H. Hancock to B. Tarver in trust for Martha Mabry during her natural life and at her death to the use of her children, to wit, Rebecca, Francis, John r. Daniel T., William Mabry tract of land in the 3rd District. I reserve 120 square poles for use as a place of education. May 1851. pages 239-240.

Thank you Jean for your note communicating the many direct Hancock descendants to our shared John D. Hancock line through Benjamin's descendants. I was unaware as to the extent of this, and I believe that your assurance will be a relief to others as well as myselt. Thank you also for sharing the details of your Hancock line. I was especially pleased to learn of your husband's participation in the DNA project and I look forward to seeing those results. Do you have any idea how long it will be before they become available? However, I agree with you that it would really be helpful if we could get DNA results from the lines of the other sons of John D., as well. So in that regard, although you've "started the ball rolling" (so to speak), ideally we need to have this kind of assurance from those lines. Jean, I really glad you asked me why I feel it is important to find John's burial location. You very likely have read his will, but if not take a look. Again that information is on page 97 (Acrobat page 101) of the "Jesse Corn Sketches" which can be found at http://www.intp.us/jessecorn. Specifically, I was very touched by the inclusion in the first paragraph of our ancestor's will his request to have a decent burial. Larry speaks to this point within the text that follows the will. I believe that his request would have been honored by his sons, and thus there was probably also a marker. I guess I feel a special reverence towards Johns request for a "decent buries", and hope that it's location could be made known. You may have been confused over the query as you saw it, as the message of mine that you attached didn't contain my original query. In hopes to clarify, let me repeat the text of my original query here: "Looking to ascertain the death and burial location of John D. Hancock. John is said to have died in Patrick County at the house of his son Benjamin. Some further refined the location of Benjamin's house to be in Patrick Springs. Several burial locations are also given for John, as shown in available information on RootsWeb (and elsewhere); e.g. "Patrick Springs", "NW of Patrick Springs", and "on the NE slope of Bull Mountain in Patrick County". With my limited knowledge of that area, it is possible to think that the three separately identified burial locations are all for the same physical location. Does anyone have an understanding that might substantiate, or repudiate, any of the above information." Please let me know, Jean, whether or not the text of my original query makes sense to you now. Regards, -Tom Melton theshadow <[email protected]> wrote: ... I guess I don't see the significance of knowing where John D. is buried as I seriously doubt the place of burial could be proven conclusively unless there is a headstone or some record stating where he is buried. I guess I am missing the point of your query. Jean Hancock in TX ... --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

Hi Tom, First of all, let me assure you there are many, many, direct male line descendants of John D. right here in TX---and all of them related to my husband!<G> Warner is descended from John D. through his son, Benjamin; Benjamin's son Lewis; Lewis' son Charles Jackson; C. J.'s son Bluford Jordan; B.J.'s son Douglas Jackson; D. J.'s son Warner Douglas; and then my husband, Warner Dean. When Benjamin and Anna died, their six orphans, Charles, James, Benjamin, Mary Nancy, and Elizabeth, (the youngest being about 13 yrs. old), went on to their brother Lewis's home and lived for some years on their brother's farm on the hill just above what is now (in1904) known as the Cave Spring on Lon Adam's farm. In time, Lewis provided houses on his land for them. Warner is participating in the DNA testing so if more of you who are of the same line but different sons of John D. would participate in the test we would have a better idea as to the relationship to John D. and Benjamin. I guess I don't see the significance of knowing where John D. is buried as I seriously doubt the place of burial could be proven conclusively unless there is a headstone or some record stating where he is buried. I guess I am missing the point of your query. Jean Hancock in TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Melton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Conflicting data on John Hancock (~1733-1802) [email protected] wrote: ... I do not know the exact location but John's home was next to Thomas Jefferson's and I thought Benjamins' was also? Sorry. Do you know of any living descendants of John D? We need to rally around the DNA test and fill in some blank names. BobHop ... ===================================== Thanks for your thoughts Bob. I know both John and Benjamin both resided in Albemarle County up through the 1770's, and that they lived in the Cunningham Creek section that became Fluvanna County in 1777. I also understand John deeded his son Benjamin land purported to be "adjacent to Thomas Jefferson, among others", and have no reason to doubt it. However, if the land where Benjamin lived were next to Monticello, I would suspect that Benjamin's residence would have remained in Albemarle County. In any case, I believe both John and his son began the move to Henry County a few years after Fluvanna County was formed. Benjamin married Anna in Henry County in 1781, and although it's unlikely that they were then residing there, Benjamin is listed on the Henry County Tax List the very next year (see "Sketches in the life and times of Jesse Corn" at http://www.intp.us/jessecorn). As is convincingly shown in that document, Benjamin had been residing for many years in Henry (later becoming Patrick) County byt the time of John's death. More cogently however, is the information as to John's will that appears on page 97. In fact, this is the basis for my query regarding a more specific location for his death and burial. I think it would be very good if we were able to learn of his gravesite. In the Allied Families Shelter at Fairystone Park there is a placque for John & Elizabeth M. Hancock placed there by Robert V. Hancock. This is recorded in Pilson's book but is not a tombstone marker. It seems most likely that John would have been buried either on Benjamin's or William's property. Benjamin and Anna sold land in 1815 to James Via, and William made many land transactions up to 1850. I'm sorry to say I don't know any "DNA quality" descendants Bob. As a matter of fact, based on my internet forays, I would have thought you to be the person most likely to conjure up the "real Hancock" for DNA testing our line. Seriously, I too hope that we can find someone. -Tom - ------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ______________________________

Tom- Thanks for your source and relationship. Many years ago a young genealogist "Chuck" Sherrill, worked in the Cleveland (Western Reserve) Library and we had mutual friends. He wrote and published a treatise on Jesse Corn. In this he pointed out many facts regarding Major Hancock and of course the Corns. ( Chuck is presently in charge of the Nashville library and archives for TN.) I noticed you mentioned William, son of John D? Most people say this was William L. who married Sarah Hardin. I have doubts. William L was always in the wrong place at the wrong time whenever I ran into his name. Do you have an opnion? BobHop Visit our home page http://bobhopkins0.tripod.com/ Major family names- Abel, Adams, Anders, Bellisfield, Brock, Byers, Davis, Dement, Field, Guffey, Hancock, Hockaday, Hopkins, Irvine, McClanahan, Scarbrough, Shipley, Strother, Stonestreet, Wade, Wampler, Westlake

Bob, The information that I have communicated regarding John D. Hancock is from research by Larry and Becky Christiansen, and most of which can be found in Sketches in the life and times of Jesse Corn, Sr. 1753-1809. As I mentioned in my last note, this document can be found at http://www.intp.us/jessecorn. The table of contents for Sketches.. can also be found on this web page. I believe that you'll find a number of sections of this document of interest, as they address Major Hancock's relationship with his sister Nancy in her Pension Application during the 1840's, as well as John D. Hancock's family during his lifetime. Thanks for sharing your line Bob. My line is through John's daughter, Nancy Elizabeth and her husband, Jesse Corn. [email protected] wrote: ... but it seems you are much better informed than I. John D had a son Major who had only two sons, Wilson and John. Wilson and John's sister was my gg-gm. I have leads on descendants of both Wilson and John but I have not located any yet. Please send me your line. Visit our home page http://bobhopkins0.tripod.com/ Major family names- Abel, Adams, Anders, Bellisfield, Brock, Byers, Davis, Dement, Field, Guffey, Hancock, Hockaday, Hopkins, Irvine, McClanahan, Scarbrough, Shipley, Strother, Stonestreet, Wade, Wampler, Westlake ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== If you would like to submit HANCOCK Census records, Wills or other documents to be posted on our Project Page, contact: [email protected] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

Tom- I am having severe computer problems and can only hope it will resuscitated without losing too much data. I now have parts spread over my work shop. At any rate I will see if I can do better on locating John D but it seems you are much better informed than I. John D had a son Major who had only two sons, Wilson and John. Wilson and John's sister was my gg-gm. I have leads on descendants of both Wilson and John but I have not located any yet. Please send me your line. Please stay in touch and I will look harder. (If this old computer I am on does not wear out.) Bob Hopkins in FL Visit our home page http://bobhopkins0.tripod.com/ Major family names- Abel, Adams, Anders, Bellisfield, Brock, Byers, Davis, Dement, Field, Guffey, Hancock, Hockaday, Hopkins, Irvine, McClanahan, Scarbrough, Shipley, Strother, Stonestreet, Wade, Wampler, Westlake

[email protected] wrote: ... I do not know the exact location but John's home was next to Thomas Jefferson's and I thought Benjamins' was also? Sorry. Do you know of any living descendants of John D? We need to rally around the DNA test and fill in some blank names. BobHop ... ===================================== Thanks for your thoughts Bob. I know both John and Benjamin both resided in Albemarle County up through the 1770's, and that they lived in the Cunningham Creek section that became Fluvanna County in 1777. I also understand John deeded his son Benjamin land purported to be "adjacent to Thomas Jefferson, among others", and have no reason to doubt it. However, if the land where Benjamin lived were next to Monticello, I would suspect that Benjamin's residence would have remained in Albemarle County. In any case, I believe both John and his son began the move to Henry County a few years after Fluvanna County was formed. Benjamin married Anna in Henry County in 1781, and although it's unlikely that they were then residing there, Benjamin is listed on the Henry County Tax List the very next year (see "Sketches in the life and times of Jesse Corn" at http://www.intp.us/jessecorn). As is convincingly shown in that document, Benjamin had been residing for many years in Henry (later becoming Patrick) County byt the time of John's death. More cogently however, is the information as to John's will that appears on page 97. In fact, this is the basis for my query regarding a more specific location for his death and burial. I think it would be very good if we were able to learn of his gravesite. In the Allied Families Shelter at Fairystone Park there is a placque for John & Elizabeth M. Hancock placed there by Robert V. Hancock. This is recorded in Pilson's book but is not a tombstone marker. It seems most likely that John would have been buried either on Benjamin's or William's property. Benjamin and Anna sold land in 1815 to James Via, and William made many land transactions up to 1850. I'm sorry to say I don't know any "DNA quality" descendants Bob. As a matter of fact, based on my internet forays, I would have thought you to be the person most likely to conjure up the "real Hancock" for DNA testing our line. Seriously, I too hope that we can find someone. -Tom --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

In a message dated 7/25/03 11:37:00 PM, [email protected] writes: << With my limited knowledge of that area, it is possible to think that the three separately identified burial locations are all for the same physical location. Does anyone have an understanding that might substantiate, or repudiate, any of the above information. >> Tom- I do not know the exact location but John's home was next to Thomas Jefferson's and I thought Benjamins' was also? Sorry. Do you know of any living descendants of John D? We need to rally around the DNA test and fill in some blank names. BobHop Visit our home page http://bobhopkins0.tripod.com/ Major family names- Abel, Adams, Anders, Bellisfield, Brock, Byers, Davis, Dement, Field, Guffey, Hancock, Hockaday, Hopkins, Irvine, McClanahan, Scarbrough, Shipley, Strother, Stonestreet, Wade, Wampler, Westlake

Looking to ascertain the death and burial location of John D. Hancock. John is said to have died in Patrick County at the house of his son Benjamin. Some further refined the location of Benjamin's house to be in Patrick Springs. Several burial locations are also given for John, as shown in available information on RootsWeb (and elsewhere); e.g. "Patrick Springs", "NW of Patrick Springs", and "on the NE slope of Bull Mountain in Patrick County". With my limited knowledge of that area, it is possible to think that the three separately identified burial locations are all for the same physical location. Does anyone have an understanding that might substantiate, or repudiate, any of the above information. Thank you, -Tom Melton --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

We have three more results but no new matches. I have moved the non matches to the bottom of the list, so William M. Hancock is not new. One of the Participants has not given me the Ancestor Chart. All the markers posted in color are matches. Three mutations are allowed before they would be considered a non-match, and especially, when there is paper documentation. We have identified seven distinct Hancock lines. We have twenty-one members, now. Only five Kits have not been returned to the lab and only two of those are overdue. Thirteen results have been received and posted to the website. http://www.small-stuff.com/HANCOCK/DNA/results.htm Julia French Wood

In a message dated 07/22/2003 11:17:53 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Has the price for the increased for the Y test?? > I thought the 15 marker was $99.00 and the 25 was $169.00. It is, but you must order from our Hancock Project website to get the discounted price: http://www.small-stuff.com/HANCOCK/DNA/ Click on "Join the DNA Project" If you have, mistakenly, ordered from FamilyTreeDNA.com and paid the Regular price, let me know. Julia

Has the price for the increased for the Y test?? I thought the 15 marker was $99.00 and the 25 was $169.00. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I would be delighted. Thank you so much Carolyn Bates Krodell Fayetteville, AR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juanita McCormack" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 12:18 AM Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] hancock records > I would be interested in any Hancocks. > > Nitamc > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tori counts" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 5:55 PM > Subject: [HANCOCK-L] hancock records > > > > I am at a brick wall, and a tad bored. I was looking through all the notes > > I'd copied, and was wondering how many of you would be interested to have > me > > post this to the list. I have printed out records of HANCOCK'S from > rootsweb > > (which I believe you've all access to) and ancestry. > > >From ancestry the records are- > > american civil war soldiers (tons) > > war of 1812 (tons) > > u.s. house of representatives private claims > > kentucky marriages 1851-1900 > > kentuckky marriages to 1850 > > kentucky death index 1911-2000 > > > > Is anyone interested in any of this info? > > > > > > > > Tioraidh an drasda, > > Tori - [email protected] > > Searching- COUNTS(Crouch, Sartain,Williams,Raper, Martin), HANCOCK(Adams, > > Abbott, Shepperd, Leach,Imel,Speck, Sprunger), > > MCNIEL(Gaddy,Brown,Lindsey,Mason,Moon)CAREY(Hancock, > > Catterton,Gibson,Dodder(Dobson),Leach), and any family connections. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > > If you would like to submit HANCOCK Census records, Wills > > or other documents to be posted on our Project Page, > > contact: [email protected] > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Check out our HANCOCK Project World Wide at: > http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/ >

Harold, Sorry I don't have Mrs. Roller's address; phone number is unlisted. She has no computer. She was very old the last time that I saw her. The only thing that I have on Ruby is that I found her on the Social Security Index. Maybe you can get her obituary. Died October 1980 in Burlington, NJ. Sorry, Sandy Clippinger [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Robinson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 6:13 AM Subject: [HANCOCK-L] Dora Jane Hancock, Joseph A. Shannon, dau. Ruby > Hi Sandra, > > Any chance you can give me Mrs. Roller's e-mail or snail mail address? > > Harold > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Check out our HANCOCK Project World Wide at: > http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/ > > >

Could this G.W. HANCOCK be the one married to Elizabeth O'Neal in Greene County Georgia? Thanks, Regina ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Joel Hancock Regina: G.W. Hancock's year of birth was 1832, month & day unknown. He was born in Upson Co. Georgia, oldest son of John Wilson Hancock & Mary Johnson. Alvis ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== If you have a HANCOCK Genealogy Homepage, and would like to have it listed on our Links page, send the URL to the list, or to: [email protected]