Lisa, Thank you for the wonderful work done on Thomas Hancock of Randolph N.C. Family lore indicated that he was the sheriff onetime of Randolph Co. Through your diligent work, that bit of lore is now history. You may be interested that I found some researchers who referred to Thomas as John Thomas. I have additional information on Elias Henderson Hancock. He had two children born before the 1850 Census in North Carolina and five born after 1850(2 in N.C. and 3 in Mo). I am Elias Henderson Hancock's GGGrandson by his son Benjamin Franklin Hancock. Family records show Elias Henderson Hancock show the children as follows: Mary J. Hancock b: 1848* - N.C. Abner P. Hancock b 1849* - N.C. John J Hancock b 1852* - N.C. Benjamin F. HANCOCK b: 1856 in Ashboro, N.C. d. 17 mar 1940- Kingfisher Ok Minerva A. b: 1859* - Mo William H. b: 8 Dec 1860 - Mo Robert Lee b 1863 - Mo Elias Henderson Hancock is listed in the 1850 Census of Ashboro N.C. It shows Mary, age 65, living with Henderson and Vina along with Mary J. and Abner Also living next door is Mahalia age 39 with three children. She is probably Abners wife Mahalia Cox M 14 feb 1832. Between 1856 and 1859 the Elias Henderson and John P family moved to Laclede Co. Mo. 1860 FEDERAL CENSUS LACLEDE CO., MISSOURI LEBANON TOWNSHIP 14-1...Shoemaker HANCOCK, John...age: unk/grown...NC ...Manerva...age: unk/grown...NC ...Louisa J...age 9...NC ...Winfred S...age 7...NC ...Sarah E...age 5...NC ...John R...age 2...MO ...Lavina A...age 2/12 (2 months)...MO 1860 FEDERAL CENSUS LACLEDE CO., MISSOURI HOOKER TOWNSHIP 215-6...$--$400...Farmer HANCOCK, Elias H...age 33...NC ...Lavina...age 34...NC ...Mary Q...age 12...NC ...Abner P...age 9...NC ...John T...age 8...NC ...Benj F...age 4...NC ..Minerva A...age 1...MO After Manerva's death, (abt 1866) John P. moves his family to Randolph Co Arkansas. Henderson moved his family (abt 1866) to Jasper Co Missouri. Henderson moves (abt1881) to Vinita in Indian Territory . Henderson's sons Benjamine Franklin. and Robert Lee went on to join in the great land run of 1889 in Oklahoma Territory Jerry Copeland > >

--part1_bb.354bde64.2c862d16_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Karen, I'm a Dawson Hancock descendent and also do not have a male for DNA. Would you let me know how that turns out? Could you let me know the date of the next reunion in TN? I'd like to go. Thanks, Kathryn Hancock Senatore --part1_bb.354bde64.2c862d16_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-za04.mx.aol.com (rly-za04.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.100]) by air-za03.mail.aol.com (v95.12) with ESMTP id MAILINZA34-2fa3f50b351cd; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 10:23:21 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [207.40.200.41]) by rly-za04.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINZA42-2fa3f50b351cd; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 10:23:15 -0400 Received: (from [email protected]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id h7UEN87a030000; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:23:08 -0600 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:23:08 -0600 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Sat Aug 30 08:23:07 2003 From: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 10:23:02 EDT Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] DNA Match-BELIEVE IT OR NOT!! Old-To: [email protected] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6011 Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/13995 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] X-AOL-IP: 207.40.200.41 Julia, thank you for all the work on DNA!!!!!!! The Hancock DNA is so well set up and useful info. It is easy to read. Other families that I look at just have the numbers and it doesn't mean anything. Since I am a woman, it wouldn't do any good for me to contribute. But I have sent the info to several Dawson Hancock descendants. They are having a reunion in TN this weekend and I hope one will contribute. Karen Dean ' ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== This is a closed list. This means that unless you are subscribed to the list, you can't post messages. --part1_bb.354bde64.2c862d16_boundary--

Julia, Arvil and I had several discussions over the parents of this William who married Elizabeth Spencer. I'm not sure how those discussions ever really turned out. He had long thought this William to be the son of William Hancock and Elizabeth Cockroft and went to Craven Co., NC. That turned out to be wrong, as William who married Elizabeth Spencer did not go to Craven Co. Elizabeth was the daughter of Nicholas Spencer of VA. I will have to dig back through my notes, but there was some reason this William was believed to be descended from Augustine instead of Simon. I'll work on that one tomorrow! Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] HANCOCK FAMILY > Good work, Lisa. That is a lot of untangling. I don't understand what you > mean about the DNA results, but the William that we have married to Elizabeth > Spencer (and didn't move to Craven) is the son of William of Lower Norfolk, VA > and grandson of Simon, not Augustine. If you look at the Hancock Project, we > have a son, William, for Augustine, but no wife for him and he had children > George, Jubal, Sarah and Ruth. This George had a son, Robert, who had a Robert, > Edward, Joshua, William (of Bedford Co., Va) and he had a George who had a > George who is the one who is buried standing up so he can watch his plantation. > His daughter was Judith who married Lewis or Clark. > > Oh, goodness, so many Hancocks. We have the children of Augustine in Lower > Norfolk, VA but I don't remember ever seeing them there. I have done limited > research there. If we test a descendant of this John who married Susannah > Bridges, he should match Chart #1. > Julia > > In a message dated 09/01/2003 11:02:56 PM Central Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > Julia, in trying to make sure these are correct connections, tell me if it > > is possible for John who married to Susannah Bridges to be a descendant of > > Augustine Hancock from the DNA results. If so, I think I have this line > > figured out for the most part. > > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Check out our HANCOCK Project World Wide at: > http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/ >

While I'm at it, I'll cover this family as well. In earlier research, I had almost convinced myself that Thomas Hancock wo married Mary Saunders, and was the sheriff of Randolph Co., NC was the son of John Hancock and Jane Holt. They did have a son named Thomas, and I have had little luck in learning about him. In an article written many years ago about Thomas in Asheboro NC records, which is the county seat of Randolph Co, where Thomas served as sheriff, I found it stated that Thomas moved to Randolph Co from Hertford Co., NC. After seeing that, I did some research on Hertford records and did find that in some Rev. War grant files, a Thomas Hancock was listed as an heir of Nehemiah Hancock. Later, Thomas was listed as the only heir of David Hancock, in these same Rev. War files. Further research in Hertford turned up a will of Grace Hancock. This appears to be Thomas' mother. Children of Thomas Hancock and his wife, Mary Saunders were: Abner P. m. 14Feb1832 to Mahala Cox (her dad was the jailor in Randolph Co) Elias 'Henderson' m. 22Nov1846 to Lavina Lewallen John Pipkin m. 17Feb1848 to Minerva Ann Elliott Hillary 'Hogan' Hancock m. 14Jan1843 to Youtha Cole Nancy m. 2May1848 to Dawson Lewallen Births and marriages of all these children were in Randolph Co., NC. Henderson and wife Lavina, and Hogan and wife Youtha, are both buried in Moore Co., NC. Hillary Hogan's wife Youtha Cole was the daughter of Raford Cole. Their children were: Edward Caswell b 22May1850 in Randolph, m. Liza ____ and died 29Apr1928 in Randolph Raeford b. 10May1856 m. Mary Bell McAskill and died 7May1932 in Randolph Betty Elizabeth b. abt 1859 m. Henry M. Johnson and died 25Jan1937 in Randolph William Henry b. abt 1844 and died 1924 in either Moore or Randolph. wife - Permalia E. A. b. abt 1847 in Randolph Abner C. b. 1850 in Randolph William Henry Hancock listed above learned the pottery trade from his neighbor, Jacob Dorris Craven. Jacob was from the long line of Craven family potters (yes, related to me too) in Seagrove, Moore Co., NC. Abt 1880 William left Craven and moved to Fayetteville where he worked for the famed potter, Edgar Allen Poe. William and Manley William Owens were the first potters at Poe & Co. In 1896, William moved to Johnston Co where he bought 50 acres of land and farmed part of the year, and turned pottery part of the year. William and his wife had at least one son, John W. Hancock b. 1865. He married Margaret ______ and they had at least one son, Hoyt T. Hancock b. 1898. John W. also practiced the art of pottery. In 1903, William sold his property and returned to either Randolph or Moore Co, where he died in 1924. Today, any piece of William's pottery is worth a small fortune. Elias Henderson Hancock and wife Lavina had at least 2 children: Mary J. b. 1859 in NC Abner P. or T. b. 1860 in NC Also, in the 1859 census, Mary, mother of Henderson, was living with Henderson and Lavina in Randolph Co., NC. Abner Hancock and wife Malaha Cox (daughter of Joel Cox, the jailor, and Jane Craven) had 2 children: Dr. John Milton Hancock b. 27Aug1838 and died at age 39. He was wounded at Gettysburg, and later contracted TB, which killed him. He married Lydia Jane Page. Nancy J. Hancock b. abt 1842 and m. Randal Presnell 6Jan1858 in Randolph Co., NC. Administrators of Abner's estate were John P. Hancock, John Presnell, and Jacob Voncannon. John Pipkin Hancock and his wife Minerva Ann Elliott moved from NC to AR, where they died. They are buried at the Masonic Cemetery in Randolph Co., AR. John m. #2 Deborah Winter. John and Minerva had: Louisa Jane b. 4Aug1849 Randolph Co., NC Winfield Scott b. 12Aug1852 John Randolph b. 24June1857 in Lebanon, MO m. Predona Jane Tompkins. The family moved to MO just before John was born. Sara Liz b. 29Aug1854 Levinna Ann b. 17Mar1860 Mary Ellen b. 11Oct1861 Malsy b. 2June1863 Now if we can only find the parents of Nehemiah or David Hancock from Hertford, we will be in business. Lisa

Good work, Lisa. That is a lot of untangling. I don't understand what you mean about the DNA results, but the William that we have married to Elizabeth Spencer (and didn't move to Craven) is the son of William of Lower Norfolk, VA and grandson of Simon, not Augustine. If you look at the Hancock Project, we have a son, William, for Augustine, but no wife for him and he had children George, Jubal, Sarah and Ruth. This George had a son, Robert, who had a Robert, Edward, Joshua, William (of Bedford Co., Va) and he had a George who had a George who is the one who is buried standing up so he can watch his plantation. His daughter was Judith who married Lewis or Clark. Oh, goodness, so many Hancocks. We have the children of Augustine in Lower Norfolk, VA but I don't remember ever seeing them there. I have done limited research there. If we test a descendant of this John who married Susannah Bridges, he should match Chart #1. Julia In a message dated 09/01/2003 11:02:56 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Julia, in trying to make sure these are correct connections, tell me if it > is possible for John who married to Susannah Bridges to be a descendant of > Augustine Hancock from the DNA results. If so, I think I have this line > figured out for the most part. >

You're very welcome Chuck, My Clement Hancock had a son named Benjamin. That's the only given name we have in common so far. Thanks for writing.......~malinda > Hello Malinda, > I am not sure where my Hancocks lived, but family lore suggests New York > and/or Mass. > I have not yet found a Clement Hancock, just two Benjamins, an Asa, and a > Eunice. It is clear that I have much more work to do. Do any of these sound > familiar to you? > Thanks for your interest, > Chuck > P.S. Thanks also for the Viking info you so kindly sent. > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Check out our HANCOCK Project World Wide at: > http://members.aol.com/heatherjvw/Hancock/

A few weeks ago, there was a question on the list about the Hancock/Sayer connection. Information I have on these families is sketchy, but hopefully helpful. Arthur Sayer and his wife Elizabeth, of Princess Anne County, VA, had the following children: Frances Margaret Mary Charles This list is from their wills. Arthur Sayer's will was dated 24Feb1754 and proved 20Oct1761. Elizabeth Sayer's will was dated 11Sept1765. In Arthur's will, all children are listed with the last name of Sayer. In Elizabeth's will, she lists her daughters only by their first name, then adds sons-in-law, John Hancock and Peter Singleton as her executors. In further records, I have proven that Frances Sayer is the daughter who married John Hancock. In further researching this connection, I found that John who married Frances Sayer was the son of William Hancock and Anne ________. Arthur Sayer was an executor of William Hancock's will. I'm still working on these Hancock's to further identify them. Lisa

A few weeks ago, there was a question on the list about the Hancock/Sayer connection. Information I have on these families is sketchy, but hopefully helpful. Arthur Sayer and his wife Elizabeth, of Princess Anne County, VA, had the following children: Frances Margaret Mary Charles This list is from their wills. Arthur Sayer's will was dated 24Feb1754 and proved 20Oct1761. Elizabeth Sayer's will was dated 11Sept1765. In Arthur's will, all children are listed with the last name of Sayer. In Elizabeth's will, she lists her daughters only by their first name, then adds sons-in-law, John Hancock and Peter Singleton as her executors. In further records, I have proven that Frances Sayer is the daughter who married John Hancock. In further researching this connection, I found that John who married Frances Sayer was the son of William Hancock and Anne ________. Arthur Sayer was an executor of William Hancock's will. I'm still working on these Hancock's to further identify them. Lisa

Now for the descendants of Clement and Isabella Hancock. From what I've found, it appears all their children were born in SC. I have them as follows: William died in Laurens Co, SC leaving a will John m. Nancy Roberts and died 1860 in Jackson Co., TN James Clement Sally m. Mr. Rodgers and possibly Joseph John who married Nancy Roberts owned 200 acres of land near Whitleyville, Jackson Co., TN. John was born in SC, but Nancy was born in NC. Their children were: Polly m. John Proctor Elizabeth m. Alexander Keith Doy (? that's how it was spelled) m. Jim Dodson Washington Edmond Roberts m. Mary Jane Dodson The son James whose wife is not known by me as yet, moved from Laurens Co., SC sometime between 1805 & 1816. He moved near the settlement of Flynn's Lick and received his first land grant there in April 1816. By 1834, he owned 600 acres near Flynn's Lick. His home was near a creek that became known as Hancock's Creek. Lisa

I've been going over the records I have for John Hancock who married Susannah Bridges and their line. Anyone needing the sources for the below info, let me know. It's going to be too long to include all that too. Julia, in trying to make sure these are correct connections, tell me if it is possible for John who married to Susannah Bridges to be a descendant of Augustine Hancock from the DNA results. If so, I think I have this line figured out for the most part. First, from John's will in Cumberland Co., NC in 1772, we know he has sons Robert, Clement, John, and William. There is much speculation that his wife was pregnant at the time and that resulted in a sister for their sons. I haven't identified her as yet. Susannah was the daughter of William Bridges (will in Granville Co., NC) and his wife Susannah. Robert married a lady named Sarah and they moved to Chatham Co, NC where they both died. Clement married a lady named Isabella and moved to SC. He was killed 19Nov1781 at Hayes Station, SC. William married Patty Cheek and is believed to be the William found in the Moore Co., NC records. (Moore County was formed from Cumberland, so that could have happened without him even moving.) John also seems to have been in Moore Co, as Susannah, John, & William are all listed on the 1777 Cumberland Tax List in the area of Cumberland that did become Moore Co. I believe either William or John was the father of John Hancock who married Clarkey Davis and lived in Moore Co., NC. For a long time, this John was speculated to be the son of John Hancock of Montgomery Co., NC, but some time back I had proven that to be impossible. In Cumberland Co., many records name John Hancock in conjunction with a man named Conner Dowd. It seems Dowd was a man of some means, as he was constantly buying and selling land in Cumberland. I also notice that a Joshua Hancock is named in conjunction with Conner Dowd in Cumberland as well. This makes me think this Joshua is a close relative of John's. Conner Dowd was also an executor, along with Susannah, of John's will in 1772. In this will, John Hancock left his son, John, 150 acres, where John & Susannah were already living. Checking deeds, John bought this 150 acres from Conner Dowd 7May1771. It is described as being on the south side of Deep River. It is interesting that Joshua Hancock bought 150 acres from Blair Johnston in 1763 on the north side of Deep River. Joshua then sold that 150 acres in 1769 to Randolph Cheek. According to 'Misc. Ancient Records of Moore Co., NC, by Rassie Wicker, Conner Dowd fled NC in 1781 and his wife was Mary Overton Shields. Now, for the parents of John who married Susannah Bridges. All indications point to his parents being John Hancock and Mary ________. This John Hancock was the son of John Hancock and Jane Holt, of Surry Co, VA (the part of Surry Co that became Sussex Co). John who married Jane Holt was the ONLY son of William Hancock and Elizabeth Spencer. (John is stated as the only son in William's will). William was the on of William Hancock, and grandson of Augustine Hancock. John who married Mary ______ (possibly Bell), had the following children: Nicholas (witnessed the wills of his aunt and uncle, William Hancock and Elizabeth Phillips) Jane m. Hartwell Phillips 24Feb1762 in Sussex Co., VA Randolph Hancock m. Ann Jones Thomas Hancock John Hancock who married Susannah Bridges I should note here that William Hancock who married Elizabeth Spencer is the William who was a member of the Surry Militia in 1687 and was arrested for attending one of their meetings. He, along with Matthew Swann and David Phillips were members. It is very interesting because Matthew Swann, and his wife Mary Harris, had a daugher named Mary Swann. This Mary Swann married William Phillips, son of David Phillips and his wife, Elizabeth Emperor. This William and Mary Swann Phillips were the parents of Elizabeth Phillips who married William Hancock, the son of John and Jane Holt Hancock. Hartwell Phillps who married Jane Hancock (listed above) was the son of John Phillps. John Phillips was the brother of this Elizabeth Phillips. Another interesting point is that in 1740 in Surry Co., VA, I find listings for Clement, Joseph, Robert and William Hancock. Joseph and William are likely the sons of John Hancock and Jane Holt. Clement and Robert are definately the two Malinda has been searching for. I really have to wonder if they aren't also children of John Hancock and Jane Holt. They couldn't be their cousins, as John was the ONLY son of William Hancock and Elizabeth Spencer. The only other explanation could be that they descend from a sibling of William who married Elizabeth Spencer. I think that's unlikely, but is possible. To keep from such long emails, I will continue with a second email on Clement Hancock and Isabella's descendants. Lisa

Tori, Do you have access to an indexed 1870 census? I have access an indexed 1870 census, if you me want to look them up, let me know. Becky At 02:55 PM 9/1/2003 -0700, you wrote: >I have searched in several counties, to let you know, that 1860 census was >Edinburg Township. Is in the bottom portion of Johnson County, and >connects to German town, Bartholomew co. I searched both in 1870, the >families are not there. I am now partially through Fountain Co. am >checking those closest to the Vermillion border first. Only 4 yrs till >they get married, according to what you posted, is pretty close, when do >they move too Vermillion county? Problem is coulld be living in >Vermillion, but married in Fountain, depends on Vermilllions marriage >records/so forth.

My error, sorry. Audrey -----Original Message----- From: tori counts [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 9:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [HANCOCK-L] Hancock/Adams connection I didn't think you'd refered to a time line, when you'd asked about ADAMS and HANCOCK'S. Excuse me Tioraidh an drasda, Tori - [email protected] Searching- COUNTS(Crouch, Sartain,Williams,Raper, Martin), HANCOCK(Adams, Abbott, Shepperd, Leach,Imel,Speck, Sprunger), MCNIEL(Gaddy,Brown,Lindsey,Mason,Moon)CAREY(Hancock, Catterton,Gibson,Dodder(Dobson),Leach), and any family connections. >From: "Audrey Shields Hancock" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [HANCOCK-L] Hancock/Adams connection >Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:35:26 -0500 > >Tori, >Well, I think my connection had to be before 1753 as that is when my (Capt) >John (Adams?) Hancock was born. > >Thanks for sharing. > >Audrey > >-----Original Message----- >From: tori counts [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 3:37 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [HANCOCK-L] Hancock/Adams connection > > >Audrey, > >I have an ADAMS, marring into my HANCOCK line. > >James Richard Hancock b- 3/1839 Kentucky s/o John Hancock b-1814 VA and >Fannie ?(conflicting data on Surname) b- 1817 KY >marries in 1/21/1861 Henry Co. to Mary Jane ADAMS b- 2/15/1844 d/o >Will/Leven? ADAMS and ?Martha?(Hood?) >(I have conflicting data on her parents, but I do have her death cert.) > >Both HANCOCK/ADAMS families are situated around Trimble/Henry/Oldham >counties KY > >Would love to hear and share with anyone possibly associated with this >family, either side. > > >Tioraidh an drasda, >Tori - [email protected] >Searching- COUNTS(Crouch, Sartain,Williams,Raper, Martin), HANCOCK(Adams, >Abbott, Shepperd, Leach,Imel,Speck, Sprunger), >MCNIEL(Gaddy,Brown,Lindsey,Mason,Moon)CAREY(Hancock, >Catterton,Gibson,Dodder(Dobson),Leach), and any family connections. > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental > > >==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== >Feel free to post the data you find on HANCOCK >in your research. Census, bible, wills, marriages, >deaths, cemetery, deeds, tax lists, and other >useful data. You might help a cousin who needs it. > > > > >==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== >If you would like to submit HANCOCK Census records, Wills >or other documents to be posted on our Project Page, >contact: [email protected] > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: Get 6 months for $9.95/month. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== This is a closed list. This means that unless you are subscribed to the list, you can't post messages.

No I don't have access to an index, I've been searching page by page. It would be very helpful, Thank you Becky!!! I believe Vera is looking for, ( and pipe up if I get it wrong :>D ) for Thomas Grimes, around age 15/16, and Elizabeth Hancock age 13/14. They marry in fountain County in 1874 and are living in Vermillion County in 1880. Tioraidh an drasda, Tori - [email protected] Searching- COUNTS(Crouch, Sartain,Williams,Raper, Martin), HANCOCK(Adams, Abbott, Shepperd, Leach,Imel,Speck, Sprunger), MCNIEL(Gaddy,Brown,Lindsey,Mason,Moon)CAREY(Hancock, Catterton,Gibson,Dodder(Dobson),Leach), and any family connections. >From: volleymom5 <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Elizabeth Hancock >Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 23:20:00 -0600 > >Tori, >Do you have access to an indexed 1870 census? I have access an indexed 1870 >census, if you me want to look them up, let me know. >Becky > >At 02:55 PM 9/1/2003 -0700, you wrote: >>I have searched in several counties, to let you know, that 1860 census was >>Edinburg Township. Is in the bottom portion of Johnson County, and >>connects to German town, Bartholomew co. I searched both in 1870, the >>families are not there. I am now partially through Fountain Co. am >>checking those closest to the Vermillion border first. Only 4 yrs till >>they get married, according to what you posted, is pretty close, when do >>they move too Vermillion county? Problem is coulld be living in >>Vermillion, but married in Fountain, depends on Vermilllions marriage >>records/so forth. > > > >==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== >Where to send messages to the list..... >[email protected] > _________________________________________________________________ Help protect your PC: Get a free online virus scan at McAfee.com. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Tori, Again Thank you so very much for helping me. I really don't know when the Hancock's moved to the Vermillion / Fountain Co Area. The Grimes lived in Fountain Co in 1860. They were married in Fountain Co. I'm really sorry but I don't know if either of them lived in Vermillion County before they were married in 1874. I couldn't find any of them in 1870. I'm not actually sure if Robert is the right Elizabeth's father. Robert had a daughter named Elizabeth that was the right age and their birth places are to same as the parents of our Elizabeth's parent's are supposed to be. I have found two other Elizabeth's the right age but their parents birth place didn't match. I now have a note saying there is a fourth, and that the parents birthplace does match, however I have not checked it out. His name is William and his wife's name is Sally, Apparently they also had a daughter named Elizabeth that was near the right age to be ours. I guess the mother died just two years before our Elizabeth married so if she is ours she may have moved from Boone Co. to Fountain/Vermillion Co. around 1872 , and could have been living in someone else's home. This Elizabeth had a large family though. so if she is the right one it seems unreal that when Thomas died she chose not to go to any of her relatives and instead raised her children in a different state alone. That doesn't make sense but I guess often life doesn't make much sense. At any rate I now have two matches so i need to check out both of them. I am so grateful for your help. Thank you very much. Have a beautiful day, V. Mayfield ----- Original Message ----- From: "tori counts" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Elizabeth Hancock > I have searched in several counties, to let you know, that 1860 census was > Edinburg Township. Is in the bottom portion of Johnson County, and connects > to German town, Bartholomew co. I searched both in 1870, the families are > not there. I am now partially through Fountain Co. am checking those closest > to the Vermillion border first. Only 4 yrs till they get married, according > to what you posted, is pretty close, when do they move too Vermillion > county? Problem is coulld be living in Vermillion, but married in Fountain, > depends on Vermilllions marriage records/so forth. > > > Tioraidh an drasda, > Tori - [email protected] > Searching- COUNTS(Crouch, Sartain,Williams,Raper, Martin), HANCOCK(Adams, > Abbott, Shepperd, Leach,Imel,Speck, Sprunger), > MCNIEL(Gaddy,Brown,Lindsey,Mason,Moon)CAREY(Hancock, > Catterton,Gibson,Dodder(Dobson),Leach), and any family connections. > > > > > > >From: "Vera and Verlin" <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Elizabeth Hancock > >Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:17:09 -0500 > > > >Tori, > > No, I don't have the 1870 census and I really appreciate you looking > >around for me. I hope you will continue. You are a Saint to help out that > >way. When they moved from Vermillion Co. Indiana, I believe it was to > >Wallace in Jackson Twp, Fountain Co.Indiana but I have been unable to find > >them. My father has his birth written as Attica, Indiana (Mar. 1887) but I > >haven't been able to find them there either. Yet I know they did live in > >Fountain County because most of their children were born there. The oldest > >were born in Vermillion Co.In.Thanks very much. May God bless you. > > > >Have a beautiful day. > > > >V. Mayfield > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "tori counts" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 1:46 PM > >Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Elizabeth Hancock > > > > > > > Wondered if you had that census. I was taking a look around for you. Do > >you > > > have 1870? cause if you do I'll stop what I'm doing LOL :>D > > > > > > > > > > > > Tioraidh an drasda, > > > Tori - [email protected] > > > Searching- COUNTS(Crouch, Sartain,Williams,Raper, Martin), > >HANCOCK(Adams, > > > Abbott, Shepperd, Leach,Imel,Speck, Sprunger), > > > MCNIEL(Gaddy,Brown,Lindsey,Mason,Moon)CAREY(Hancock, > > > Catterton,Gibson,Dodder(Dobson),Leach), and any family connections. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Vera and Verlin" <[email protected]> > > > >Reply-To: [email protected] > > > >To: [email protected] > > > >Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Elizabeth Hancock > > > >Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:41:12 -0500 > > > > > > > >Tori, > > > > Thanks for replying, yes, those are their two oldest clildren. > >They > > > >were all living in Vermillion Co. Indiana in 1880. Later they moved > >into > > > >Fountain Co. Then from there to Clay County, Arkansas about 1899, > >however, > > > >Clara was not with them when they moved to Arkansas. She was either > >dead > > > >or > > > >had married and moved elsewhere. We assume she was dead because to the > >best > > > >of our knowlege she never contacted them. > > > > > > > >God be with you. > > > > > > > >Have a beautiful day, > > > > > > > >V. Mayfield > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "tori counts" <[email protected]> > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > >Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 11:51 AM > > > >Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Elizabeth Hancock > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are 2 of her children William and Clara? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tioraidh an drasda, > > > > > Tori - [email protected] > > > > > Searching- COUNTS(Crouch, Sartain,Williams,Raper, Martin), > > > >HANCOCK(Adams, > > > > > Abbott, Shepperd, Leach,Imel,Speck, Sprunger), > > > > > MCNIEL(Gaddy,Brown,Lindsey,Mason,Moon)CAREY(Hancock, > > > > > Catterton,Gibson,Dodder(Dobson),Leach), and any family connections. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > MSN 8: Get 6 months for $9.95/month. > > > >http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > > > > > Thank you for your support of The HANCOCK Family Discussion List. > > > >Please > > > >post your HANCOCK folks periodically so we will all know who you are > > > >looking > > > >for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > > > >If you would like to submit HANCOCK Census records, Wills > > > >or other documents to be posted on our Project Page, > > > >contact: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get MSN 8 and enjoy automatic e-mail virus protection. > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > > > Where to send messages to the list..... > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > >==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > >This is a closed list. 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I didn't think you'd refered to a time line, when you'd asked about ADAMS and HANCOCK'S. Excuse me Tioraidh an drasda, Tori - [email protected] Searching- COUNTS(Crouch, Sartain,Williams,Raper, Martin), HANCOCK(Adams, Abbott, Shepperd, Leach,Imel,Speck, Sprunger), MCNIEL(Gaddy,Brown,Lindsey,Mason,Moon)CAREY(Hancock, Catterton,Gibson,Dodder(Dobson),Leach), and any family connections. >From: "Audrey Shields Hancock" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [HANCOCK-L] Hancock/Adams connection >Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:35:26 -0500 > >Tori, >Well, I think my connection had to be before 1753 as that is when my (Capt) >John (Adams?) Hancock was born. > >Thanks for sharing. > >Audrey > >-----Original Message----- >From: tori counts [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 3:37 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [HANCOCK-L] Hancock/Adams connection > > >Audrey, > >I have an ADAMS, marring into my HANCOCK line. > >James Richard Hancock b- 3/1839 Kentucky s/o John Hancock b-1814 VA and >Fannie ?(conflicting data on Surname) b- 1817 KY >marries in 1/21/1861 Henry Co. to Mary Jane ADAMS b- 2/15/1844 d/o >Will/Leven? ADAMS and ?Martha?(Hood?) >(I have conflicting data on her parents, but I do have her death cert.) > >Both HANCOCK/ADAMS families are situated around Trimble/Henry/Oldham >counties KY > >Would love to hear and share with anyone possibly associated with this >family, either side. > > >Tioraidh an drasda, >Tori - [email protected] >Searching- COUNTS(Crouch, Sartain,Williams,Raper, Martin), HANCOCK(Adams, >Abbott, Shepperd, Leach,Imel,Speck, Sprunger), >MCNIEL(Gaddy,Brown,Lindsey,Mason,Moon)CAREY(Hancock, >Catterton,Gibson,Dodder(Dobson),Leach), and any family connections. > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental > > >==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== >Feel free to post the data you find on HANCOCK >in your research. Census, bible, wills, marriages, >deaths, cemetery, deeds, tax lists, and other >useful data. You might help a cousin who needs it. > > > > >==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== >If you would like to submit HANCOCK Census records, Wills >or other documents to be posted on our Project Page, >contact: [email protected] > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: Get 6 months for $9.95/month. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup

Tori, Well, I think my connection had to be before 1753 as that is when my (Capt) John (Adams?) Hancock was born. Thanks for sharing. Audrey -----Original Message----- From: tori counts [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 3:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [HANCOCK-L] Hancock/Adams connection Audrey, I have an ADAMS, marring into my HANCOCK line. James Richard Hancock b- 3/1839 Kentucky s/o John Hancock b-1814 VA and Fannie ?(conflicting data on Surname) b- 1817 KY marries in 1/21/1861 Henry Co. to Mary Jane ADAMS b- 2/15/1844 d/o Will/Leven? ADAMS and ?Martha?(Hood?) (I have conflicting data on her parents, but I do have her death cert.) Both HANCOCK/ADAMS families are situated around Trimble/Henry/Oldham counties KY Would love to hear and share with anyone possibly associated with this family, either side. Tioraidh an drasda, Tori - [email protected] Searching- COUNTS(Crouch, Sartain,Williams,Raper, Martin), HANCOCK(Adams, Abbott, Shepperd, Leach,Imel,Speck, Sprunger), MCNIEL(Gaddy,Brown,Lindsey,Mason,Moon)CAREY(Hancock, Catterton,Gibson,Dodder(Dobson),Leach), and any family connections. > _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== Feel free to post the data you find on HANCOCK in your research. Census, bible, wills, marriages, deaths, cemetery, deeds, tax lists, and other useful data. You might help a cousin who needs it.

Tori, No, I don't have the 1870 census and I really appreciate you looking around for me. I hope you will continue. You are a Saint to help out that way. When they moved from Vermillion Co. Indiana, I believe it was to Wallace in Jackson Twp, Fountain Co.Indiana but I have been unable to find them. My father has his birth written as Attica, Indiana (Mar. 1887) but I haven't been able to find them there either. Yet I know they did live in Fountain County because most of their children were born there. The oldest were born in Vermillion Co.In.Thanks very much. May God bless you. Have a beautiful day. V. Mayfield ----- Original Message ----- From: "tori counts" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Elizabeth Hancock > Wondered if you had that census. I was taking a look around for you. Do you > have 1870? cause if you do I'll stop what I'm doing LOL :>D > > > > Tioraidh an drasda, > Tori - [email protected] > Searching- COUNTS(Crouch, Sartain,Williams,Raper, Martin), HANCOCK(Adams, > Abbott, Shepperd, Leach,Imel,Speck, Sprunger), > MCNIEL(Gaddy,Brown,Lindsey,Mason,Moon)CAREY(Hancock, > Catterton,Gibson,Dodder(Dobson),Leach), and any family connections. > > > > > > >From: "Vera and Verlin" <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Elizabeth Hancock > >Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:41:12 -0500 > > > >Tori, > > Thanks for replying, yes, those are their two oldest clildren. They > >were all living in Vermillion Co. Indiana in 1880. Later they moved into > >Fountain Co. Then from there to Clay County, Arkansas about 1899, however, > >Clara was not with them when they moved to Arkansas. She was either dead > >or > >had married and moved elsewhere. We assume she was dead because to the best > >of our knowlege she never contacted them. > > > >God be with you. > > > >Have a beautiful day, > > > >V. Mayfield > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "tori counts" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 11:51 AM > >Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Elizabeth Hancock > > > > > > > Are 2 of her children William and Clara? > > > > > > > > > > > > Tioraidh an drasda, > > > Tori - [email protected] > > > Searching- COUNTS(Crouch, Sartain,Williams,Raper, Martin), > >HANCOCK(Adams, > > > Abbott, Shepperd, Leach,Imel,Speck, Sprunger), > > > MCNIEL(Gaddy,Brown,Lindsey,Mason,Moon)CAREY(Hancock, > > > Catterton,Gibson,Dodder(Dobson),Leach), and any family connections. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > MSN 8: Get 6 months for $9.95/month. > >http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup > > > > > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > > > Thank you for your support of The HANCOCK Family Discussion List. > >Please > >post your HANCOCK folks periodically so we will all know who you are > >looking > >for. > > > > > > > > >==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > >If you would like to submit HANCOCK Census records, Wills > >or other documents to be posted on our Project Page, > >contact: [email protected] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get MSN 8 and enjoy automatic e-mail virus protection. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Where to send messages to the list..... > [email protected] >

I have searched in several counties, to let you know, that 1860 census was Edinburg Township. Is in the bottom portion of Johnson County, and connects to German town, Bartholomew co. I searched both in 1870, the families are not there. I am now partially through Fountain Co. am checking those closest to the Vermillion border first. Only 4 yrs till they get married, according to what you posted, is pretty close, when do they move too Vermillion county? Problem is coulld be living in Vermillion, but married in Fountain, depends on Vermilllions marriage records/so forth. Tioraidh an drasda, Tori - [email protected] Searching- COUNTS(Crouch, Sartain,Williams,Raper, Martin), HANCOCK(Adams, Abbott, Shepperd, Leach,Imel,Speck, Sprunger), MCNIEL(Gaddy,Brown,Lindsey,Mason,Moon)CAREY(Hancock, Catterton,Gibson,Dodder(Dobson),Leach), and any family connections. >From: "Vera and Verlin" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Elizabeth Hancock >Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:17:09 -0500 > >Tori, > No, I don't have the 1870 census and I really appreciate you looking >around for me. I hope you will continue. You are a Saint to help out that >way. When they moved from Vermillion Co. Indiana, I believe it was to >Wallace in Jackson Twp, Fountain Co.Indiana but I have been unable to find >them. My father has his birth written as Attica, Indiana (Mar. 1887) but I >haven't been able to find them there either. Yet I know they did live in >Fountain County because most of their children were born there. The oldest >were born in Vermillion Co.In.Thanks very much. May God bless you. > >Have a beautiful day. > >V. Mayfield >----- Original Message ----- >From: "tori counts" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 1:46 PM >Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Elizabeth Hancock > > > > Wondered if you had that census. I was taking a look around for you. Do >you > > have 1870? cause if you do I'll stop what I'm doing LOL :>D > > > > > > > > Tioraidh an drasda, > > Tori - [email protected] > > Searching- COUNTS(Crouch, Sartain,Williams,Raper, Martin), >HANCOCK(Adams, > > Abbott, Shepperd, Leach,Imel,Speck, Sprunger), > > MCNIEL(Gaddy,Brown,Lindsey,Mason,Moon)CAREY(Hancock, > > Catterton,Gibson,Dodder(Dobson),Leach), and any family connections. > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Vera and Verlin" <[email protected]> > > >Reply-To: [email protected] > > >To: [email protected] > > >Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Elizabeth Hancock > > >Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:41:12 -0500 > > > > > >Tori, > > > Thanks for replying, yes, those are their two oldest clildren. >They > > >were all living in Vermillion Co. Indiana in 1880. Later they moved >into > > >Fountain Co. Then from there to Clay County, Arkansas about 1899, >however, > > >Clara was not with them when they moved to Arkansas. She was either >dead > > >or > > >had married and moved elsewhere. We assume she was dead because to the >best > > >of our knowlege she never contacted them. > > > > > >God be with you. > > > > > >Have a beautiful day, > > > > > >V. Mayfield > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "tori counts" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 11:51 AM > > >Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Elizabeth Hancock > > > > > > > > > > Are 2 of her children William and Clara? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tioraidh an drasda, > > > > Tori - [email protected] > > > > Searching- COUNTS(Crouch, Sartain,Williams,Raper, Martin), > > >HANCOCK(Adams, > > > > Abbott, Shepperd, Leach,Imel,Speck, Sprunger), > > > > MCNIEL(Gaddy,Brown,Lindsey,Mason,Moon)CAREY(Hancock, > > > > Catterton,Gibson,Dodder(Dobson),Leach), and any family connections. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > MSN 8: Get 6 months for $9.95/month. > > >http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > > > > Thank you for your support of The HANCOCK Family Discussion List. > > >Please > > >post your HANCOCK folks periodically so we will all know who you are > > >looking > > >for. > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > > >If you would like to submit HANCOCK Census records, Wills > > >or other documents to be posted on our Project Page, > > >contact: [email protected] > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get MSN 8 and enjoy automatic e-mail virus protection. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > > Where to send messages to the list..... > > [email protected] > > > > >==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== >This is a closed list. 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Tori, Thanks for replying, yes, those are their two oldest clildren. They were all living in Vermillion Co. Indiana in 1880. Later they moved into Fountain Co. Then from there to Clay County, Arkansas about 1899, however, Clara was not with them when they moved to Arkansas. She was either dead or had married and moved elsewhere. We assume she was dead because to the best of our knowlege she never contacted them. God be with you. Have a beautiful day, V. Mayfield ----- Original Message ----- From: "tori counts" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [HANCOCK-L] Elizabeth Hancock > Are 2 of her children William and Clara? > > > > Tioraidh an drasda, > Tori - [email protected] > Searching- COUNTS(Crouch, Sartain,Williams,Raper, Martin), HANCOCK(Adams, > Abbott, Shepperd, Leach,Imel,Speck, Sprunger), > MCNIEL(Gaddy,Brown,Lindsey,Mason,Moon)CAREY(Hancock, > Catterton,Gibson,Dodder(Dobson),Leach), and any family connections. > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8: Get 6 months for $9.95/month. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup > > > ==== HANCOCK Mailing List ==== > Thank you for your support of The HANCOCK Family Discussion List. Please post your HANCOCK folks periodically so we will all know who you are looking for. >

Audrey, I have an ADAMS, marring into my HANCOCK line. James Richard Hancock b- 3/1839 Kentucky s/o John Hancock b-1814 VA and Fannie ?(conflicting data on Surname) b- 1817 KY marries in 1/21/1861 Henry Co. to Mary Jane ADAMS b- 2/15/1844 d/o Will/Leven? ADAMS and ?Martha?(Hood?) (I have conflicting data on her parents, but I do have her death cert.) Both HANCOCK/ADAMS families are situated around Trimble/Henry/Oldham counties KY Would love to hear and share with anyone possibly associated with this family, either side. Tioraidh an drasda, Tori - [email protected] Searching- COUNTS(Crouch, Sartain,Williams,Raper, Martin), HANCOCK(Adams, Abbott, Shepperd, Leach,Imel,Speck, Sprunger), MCNIEL(Gaddy,Brown,Lindsey,Mason,Moon)CAREY(Hancock, Catterton,Gibson,Dodder(Dobson),Leach), and any family connections. > _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental