Which Group does John "J" belong to? I forget. Audrey -----Original Message----- From: hancock-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hancock-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Lisa Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 7:24 PM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Just wanted the group to know that Lisa Craven is the greatest! Thank you for the compliment! Info on John 'J' Hancock is not easy to find, and it took a long time to put it all together. I can't figure out exactly how he fits in with my line, but I've always known he does somehow. So I always keep my eyes open for info on him. When I run across more, I'll send it to you! Lisa

Greetings Lisa, Would you please send me the information on John (J) Hancock and his family. Best Regards, Raymond Kelly RKelly6704@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 7:24 PM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Just wanted the group to know that Lisa Craven is the greatest! Thank you for the compliment! Info on John 'J' Hancock is not easy to find, and it took a long time to put it all together. I can't figure out exactly how he fits in with my line, but I've always known he does somehow. So I always keep my eyes open for info on him. When I run across more, I'll send it to you! Lisa On 2/5/2013 6:44 PM, Carolyn Krodell wrote: > > > ------------------------------- > Join our DNA Project at: > http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock > > (Scroll down to place your order) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Julia! I'm a Hancock...that has to explain it. : ) LIsa On 2/5/2013 7:49 PM, JULIAFWOOD@aol.com wrote: > Well, we, already, knew that. LOL > > > In a message dated 2/5/2013 5:45:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, > cbkrodell@sbcglobal.net writes: > > > > ------------------------------- > Join our DNA Project at: > http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock > > (Scroll down to place your order) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Join our DNA Project at: > http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock > > (Scroll down to place your order) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Well, we, already, knew that. LOL In a message dated 2/5/2013 5:45:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, cbkrodell@sbcglobal.net writes: ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for the compliment! Info on John 'J' Hancock is not easy to find, and it took a long time to put it all together. I can't figure out exactly how he fits in with my line, but I've always known he does somehow. So I always keep my eyes open for info on him. When I run across more, I'll send it to you! Lisa On 2/5/2013 6:44 PM, Carolyn Krodell wrote: > > > ------------------------------- > Join our DNA Project at: > http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock > > (Scroll down to place your order) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Julia, Thank you for your comments. I am just hoping that with some additional data that we will be able to separate these "closely related" families in Group 3. Best Regards, Raymond Kelly -----Original Message----- From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:15 PM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] How Many Markers should you Test for? I agree, Raymond, it appears that the two with 27 at DYS449 may be more closely related than they are to the rest of the group but you can't make that determination until after the test is done and you are able to compare matches. Note, also, that the informative mutation is in the first 25 markers and it doesn't appear that upgrading to 37 has helped at all. But, at 37 markers we, now, see that the two with the 14 at DYS607 may be more closely related to each other than to the rest of the group. However, these mutations should be repeated in other tests to be sure they are a marker for a down line. Hence, you can't make general statements about DNA. However, If you look at Group 4, you can see that "all" the descendants of Old William Hancock of Craven County, NC have the same mutation at DYS439 where they have a 14 and "all" descendants of the Maryland Hancock line have an 11 at that position, including the Miles Gray who moved to Maryland. This indicates that the mutation occurred either right after the line arrived in America or before they came to America if they came separately. These common mutations are more informative than lines that match each other exactly. In my French line, we have a mutation at two different positions in a line that came into New Jersey in the mid 17th Century and a line that came into Virginia a bit later. http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Hancock/default.aspx?section=ycolorized _http://www.familytreedna.com/public/French/default.aspx?section=ycolorized_ (http://www.familytreedna.com/public/French/default.aspx?section=ycolorized) Look at the bottom of Group 1 in the French Project. Julia In a message dated 2/5/2013 2:44:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, RKelly6704@verizon.net writes: Hi Julia, What I see in Group 3 is that we have 8 participants, Kit Number 8902, 8899, 10903, 21523, 11139, 32682, 76203, and 119362, that match 25/25. If they upgraded to 37 markers we would have a higher probability of determining more accurately how closely they are related to the other participants in Group 3. In Group 3 the modal value for DYS 607 is 15. However, two participants 11050, and 249962 have a one step mutation to 14 on DYS 607. Are there others of the 8 who also have this mutation? Are there other characteristic markers within that group of 8 participants? We won't know unless we run the Test. Best Regards, Raymond Kelly -----Original Message----- From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 2:02 PM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] How Many Markers should you Test for? Hi Raymond. With all due respect, the tip is useless. I have 8 DNA Projects with over 2000 members over a span of 11 years and can tell you from that experience that some males' DNA mutates more often than others. Some have perfect matches on 67 markers but their common ancestor is more than ten generations away. Some have many mutations but their proven ancestor is only a few generations away. You can not make general statements about distance if you haven't seen a person's DNA and compared them to matching DNA. Look at Group 1 in the Hancock Project. Most of their mutations are in the first 25 Markers, so the second set of 37 markers didn't help at all. Other are the opposite. DNA doesn't lend itself to general statements. Mutations occur at random, meaning anytime at any place on the STRs. And they are, always, between a father and son. Julia In a message dated 2/5/2013 12:52:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, RKelly6704@verizon.net writes: Greetings Julia, You can easily verify the accuracy of my statement using the TiP Calculator on your Matches page. A 25/25 match indicates with a 90% probability that participants share a Common Ancestor within the past 10 generations. Most of us don't have paper trails going back 10 generations. A 37/37 match indicates with a 90% probability that participants share a Common Ancestor within the past 4 generations. We have a recent example in Group 3 of the value of upgrading to 37 markers. 15362, Calvin Ward Hancock recently upgraded from 25 to 37 markers. The data shows that he has a 37/37 match with 192813, Thomas Hunter Hancock. Their 37/37 match indicates with a 90% probability that that they share a Common Ancestor within the past 4 generations. This greatly aids in the search for the identity of the Common Ancestor. Best Regards, Raymond Kelly -----Original Message----- From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:06 PM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project While I do recommend the 37 marker test, the statement below by Raymond is not correct. DNA can't be pin pointed that way. The DNA results can't be interpreted until they are in and have DNA matches. If you order the 25 markers, you can, always, update later if you wish to have 37, 67 or 111 markers. It is best to order the most markers that you can afford. Julia French Wood Administrator, Hancock DNA Project In a message dated 2/5/2013 10:53:37 A.M. Central Standard Time, RKelly6704@verizon.net writes: Henry, I would encourage you to select the 37 marker Test. 37 markers are sufficient to confirm a connection within the past 4 generations. 25 markers are only sufficient to confirm a connection within the past 10 generations. Best Regards, Raymond Kelly -----Original Message----- From: Sue Jones Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:41 AM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project Henry, First of all, I want to urge you to get the DNA test. PLEASE. I doubt you are connected to the Jamestown Hancocks, but the DNA test will be the only way to know. I have been digging through mounds of old research tonight trying to figure out where I have seen the genealogy for Henry Grady Hancock III. Julia assures me it has never been on the Hancock DNA chart. I finally figured it out. In 2005 and 2006, Bill Felknor (spelled "nor" as opposed to "ner") shared a lot of material with me. I know you were once in touch with Bill. If you don't have the entire genealogy record dating back to Robert b. 1711 in VA, I do and will be happy to share it with you. You will need to send me your address offline so I can mail everything to you. There's a lot of paperwork. Bill Felknor only has documentation going back to Robert b. 1711 in VA. He speculates that your line goes all the way back to William, born about 1580 in England, but your DNA will be the only proof of that speculation. I even think there's reason to believe your line may be kin to my line. There's a lot of overlap in our families, so your DNA test results will be of great interest to me. Sue in Texas --- On Mon, 2/4/13, squeezeboxdood@verizon.net <squeezeboxdood@verizon.net> wrote: From: squeezeboxdood@verizon.net <squeezeboxdood@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project To: hancock@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, February 4, 2013, 8:12 PM Sue/Julia I imagine I need to do a DNA test in order to be posted on the DNA Project. I want to be in contact with a living breathing family member from that line. The number I have for Bill Felkner is no longer in service. I tried calling him this weekend. I do appreciate all your help in advance. Was there a William Hancock that came through Jamestown in 1619 and was killed in the indian uprising at the Berkley Plantation in 1622? There are lots of Hancocks here in the area where I live in Newport News VA., only about 30 miles from Jamestown. There were lots of Hancocks who were born and lived and died right here in this area who were related to his line if he did, in fact, exist. My line of the family migrated into the Carolinas and into Alabama and then into TX. My grandfather/mother then moved to California and had 3 kids, my father, Henry Grady Hancock,Jr born in Long Beach, a son, Richard Clem Hancock born in Ojai and a daughter born in Los Angeles (who is currently living in Myrtle Creek, OR). I was born in Bend, OR but was raised in CA. I joined the Army in 1977 and traveled the world and ultimately ended up here in Virginia right back here where William and so many of his descendants lived. What a great story I could tell my grandkids (of which I have 5), that I brought my family back full circle to VA where it all began. Henry On 02/04/13, JULIAFWOOD@aol.com wrote ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe& from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I seem to be having trouble with skipped messages on my computer but thankfully it was picked up on my iphone! Thanks you so much for looking out for me! Carolyn Krodell -----Original Message----- From: hancock-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hancock-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 10:16 PM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: [HANCOCK] JOHN 'J' HANCOCK Carolyn, DId you get the file I sent to you about John J Hancock? It's several pages of notes that were found in files from several genealogy researchers. I did correspond with some of the writers of the letters included, but it's been several years ago. Hope you might find something useful in it! Lisa ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I meant a 12 and 11 at that position. In a message dated 2/5/2013 3:15:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, JULIAFWOOD@aol.com writes: However, If you look at Group 4, you can see that "all" the descendants of Old William Hancock of Craven County, NC have the same mutation at DYS439 where they have a 14 and "all" descendants of the Maryland Hancock line have an 11 at that position,

I agree, Raymond, it appears that the two with 27 at DYS449 may be more closely related than they are to the rest of the group but you can't make that determination until after the test is done and you are able to compare matches. Note, also, that the informative mutation is in the first 25 markers and it doesn't appear that upgrading to 37 has helped at all. But, at 37 markers we, now, see that the two with the 14 at DYS607 may be more closely related to each other than to the rest of the group. However, these mutations should be repeated in other tests to be sure they are a marker for a down line. Hence, you can't make general statements about DNA. However, If you look at Group 4, you can see that "all" the descendants of Old William Hancock of Craven County, NC have the same mutation at DYS439 where they have a 14 and "all" descendants of the Maryland Hancock line have an 11 at that position, including the Miles Gray who moved to Maryland. This indicates that the mutation occurred either right after the line arrived in America or before they came to America if they came separately. These common mutations are more informative than lines that match each other exactly. In my French line, we have a mutation at two different positions in a line that came into New Jersey in the mid 17th Century and a line that came into Virginia a bit later. http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Hancock/default.aspx?section=ycolorized _http://www.familytreedna.com/public/French/default.aspx?section=ycolorized_ (http://www.familytreedna.com/public/French/default.aspx?section=ycolorized) Look at the bottom of Group 1 in the French Project. Julia In a message dated 2/5/2013 2:44:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, RKelly6704@verizon.net writes: Hi Julia, What I see in Group 3 is that we have 8 participants, Kit Number 8902, 8899, 10903, 21523, 11139, 32682, 76203, and 119362, that match 25/25. If they upgraded to 37 markers we would have a higher probability of determining more accurately how closely they are related to the other participants in Group 3. In Group 3 the modal value for DYS 607 is 15. However, two participants 11050, and 249962 have a one step mutation to 14 on DYS 607. Are there others of the 8 who also have this mutation? Are there other characteristic markers within that group of 8 participants? We won't know unless we run the Test. Best Regards, Raymond Kelly -----Original Message----- From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 2:02 PM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] How Many Markers should you Test for? Hi Raymond. With all due respect, the tip is useless. I have 8 DNA Projects with over 2000 members over a span of 11 years and can tell you from that experience that some males' DNA mutates more often than others. Some have perfect matches on 67 markers but their common ancestor is more than ten generations away. Some have many mutations but their proven ancestor is only a few generations away. You can not make general statements about distance if you haven't seen a person's DNA and compared them to matching DNA. Look at Group 1 in the Hancock Project. Most of their mutations are in the first 25 Markers, so the second set of 37 markers didn't help at all. Other are the opposite. DNA doesn't lend itself to general statements. Mutations occur at random, meaning anytime at any place on the STRs. And they are, always, between a father and son. Julia In a message dated 2/5/2013 12:52:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, RKelly6704@verizon.net writes: Greetings Julia, You can easily verify the accuracy of my statement using the TiP Calculator on your Matches page. A 25/25 match indicates with a 90% probability that participants share a Common Ancestor within the past 10 generations. Most of us don't have paper trails going back 10 generations. A 37/37 match indicates with a 90% probability that participants share a Common Ancestor within the past 4 generations. We have a recent example in Group 3 of the value of upgrading to 37 markers. 15362, Calvin Ward Hancock recently upgraded from 25 to 37 markers. The data shows that he has a 37/37 match with 192813, Thomas Hunter Hancock. Their 37/37 match indicates with a 90% probability that that they share a Common Ancestor within the past 4 generations. This greatly aids in the search for the identity of the Common Ancestor. Best Regards, Raymond Kelly -----Original Message----- From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:06 PM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project While I do recommend the 37 marker test, the statement below by Raymond is not correct. DNA can't be pin pointed that way. The DNA results can't be interpreted until they are in and have DNA matches. If you order the 25 markers, you can, always, update later if you wish to have 37, 67 or 111 markers. It is best to order the most markers that you can afford. Julia French Wood Administrator, Hancock DNA Project In a message dated 2/5/2013 10:53:37 A.M. Central Standard Time, RKelly6704@verizon.net writes: Henry, I would encourage you to select the 37 marker Test. 37 markers are sufficient to confirm a connection within the past 4 generations. 25 markers are only sufficient to confirm a connection within the past 10 generations. Best Regards, Raymond Kelly -----Original Message----- From: Sue Jones Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:41 AM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project Henry, First of all, I want to urge you to get the DNA test. PLEASE. I doubt you are connected to the Jamestown Hancocks, but the DNA test will be the only way to know. I have been digging through mounds of old research tonight trying to figure out where I have seen the genealogy for Henry Grady Hancock III. Julia assures me it has never been on the Hancock DNA chart. I finally figured it out. In 2005 and 2006, Bill Felknor (spelled "nor" as opposed to "ner") shared a lot of material with me. I know you were once in touch with Bill. If you don't have the entire genealogy record dating back to Robert b. 1711 in VA, I do and will be happy to share it with you. You will need to send me your address offline so I can mail everything to you. There's a lot of paperwork. Bill Felknor only has documentation going back to Robert b. 1711 in VA. He speculates that your line goes all the way back to William, born about 1580 in England, but your DNA will be the only proof of that speculation. I even think there's reason to believe your line may be kin to my line. There's a lot of overlap in our families, so your DNA test results will be of great interest to me. Sue in Texas --- On Mon, 2/4/13, squeezeboxdood@verizon.net <squeezeboxdood@verizon.net> wrote: From: squeezeboxdood@verizon.net <squeezeboxdood@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project To: hancock@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, February 4, 2013, 8:12 PM Sue/Julia I imagine I need to do a DNA test in order to be posted on the DNA Project. I want to be in contact with a living breathing family member from that line. The number I have for Bill Felkner is no longer in service. I tried calling him this weekend. I do appreciate all your help in advance. Was there a William Hancock that came through Jamestown in 1619 and was killed in the indian uprising at the Berkley Plantation in 1622? There are lots of Hancocks here in the area where I live in Newport News VA., only about 30 miles from Jamestown. There were lots of Hancocks who were born and lived and died right here in this area who were related to his line if he did, in fact, exist. My line of the family migrated into the Carolinas and into Alabama and then into TX. My grandfather/mother then moved to California and had 3 kids, my father, Henry Grady Hancock,Jr born in Long Beach, a son, Richard Clem Hancock born in Ojai and a daughter born in Los Angeles (who is currently living in Myrtle Creek, OR). I was born in Bend, OR but was raised in CA. I joined the Army in 1977 and traveled the world and ultimately ended up here in Virginia right back here where William and so many of his descendants lived. What a great story I could tell my grandkids (of which I have 5), that I brought my family back full circle to VA where it all began. Henry On 02/04/13, JULIAFWOOD@aol.com wrote ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe& from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Julia, What I see in Group 3 is that we have 8 participants, Kit Number 8902, 8899, 10903, 21523, 11139, 32682, 76203, and 119362, that match 25/25. If they upgraded to 37 markers we would have a higher probability of determining more accurately how closely they are related to the other participants in Group 3. In Group 3 the modal value for DYS 607 is 15. However, two participants 11050, and 249962 have a one step mutation to 14 on DYS 607. Are there others of the 8 who also have this mutation? Are there other characteristic markers within that group of 8 participants? We won't know unless we run the Test. Best Regards, Raymond Kelly -----Original Message----- From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 2:02 PM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] How Many Markers should you Test for? Hi Raymond. With all due respect, the tip is useless. I have 8 DNA Projects with over 2000 members over a span of 11 years and can tell you from that experience that some males' DNA mutates more often than others. Some have perfect matches on 67 markers but their common ancestor is more than ten generations away. Some have many mutations but their proven ancestor is only a few generations away. You can not make general statements about distance if you haven't seen a person's DNA and compared them to matching DNA. Look at Group 1 in the Hancock Project. Most of their mutations are in the first 25 Markers, so the second set of 37 markers didn't help at all. Other are the opposite. DNA doesn't lend itself to general statements. Mutations occur at random, meaning anytime at any place on the STRs. And they are, always, between a father and son. Julia In a message dated 2/5/2013 12:52:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, RKelly6704@verizon.net writes: Greetings Julia, You can easily verify the accuracy of my statement using the TiP Calculator on your Matches page. A 25/25 match indicates with a 90% probability that participants share a Common Ancestor within the past 10 generations. Most of us don't have paper trails going back 10 generations. A 37/37 match indicates with a 90% probability that participants share a Common Ancestor within the past 4 generations. We have a recent example in Group 3 of the value of upgrading to 37 markers. 15362, Calvin Ward Hancock recently upgraded from 25 to 37 markers. The data shows that he has a 37/37 match with 192813, Thomas Hunter Hancock. Their 37/37 match indicates with a 90% probability that that they share a Common Ancestor within the past 4 generations. This greatly aids in the search for the identity of the Common Ancestor. Best Regards, Raymond Kelly -----Original Message----- From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:06 PM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project While I do recommend the 37 marker test, the statement below by Raymond is not correct. DNA can't be pin pointed that way. The DNA results can't be interpreted until they are in and have DNA matches. If you order the 25 markers, you can, always, update later if you wish to have 37, 67 or 111 markers. It is best to order the most markers that you can afford. Julia French Wood Administrator, Hancock DNA Project In a message dated 2/5/2013 10:53:37 A.M. Central Standard Time, RKelly6704@verizon.net writes: Henry, I would encourage you to select the 37 marker Test. 37 markers are sufficient to confirm a connection within the past 4 generations. 25 markers are only sufficient to confirm a connection within the past 10 generations. Best Regards, Raymond Kelly -----Original Message----- From: Sue Jones Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:41 AM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project Henry, First of all, I want to urge you to get the DNA test. PLEASE. I doubt you are connected to the Jamestown Hancocks, but the DNA test will be the only way to know. I have been digging through mounds of old research tonight trying to figure out where I have seen the genealogy for Henry Grady Hancock III. Julia assures me it has never been on the Hancock DNA chart. I finally figured it out. In 2005 and 2006, Bill Felknor (spelled "nor" as opposed to "ner") shared a lot of material with me. I know you were once in touch with Bill. If you don't have the entire genealogy record dating back to Robert b. 1711 in VA, I do and will be happy to share it with you. You will need to send me your address offline so I can mail everything to you. There's a lot of paperwork. Bill Felknor only has documentation going back to Robert b. 1711 in VA. He speculates that your line goes all the way back to William, born about 1580 in England, but your DNA will be the only proof of that speculation. I even think there's reason to believe your line may be kin to my line. There's a lot of overlap in our families, so your DNA test results will be of great interest to me. Sue in Texas --- On Mon, 2/4/13, squeezeboxdood@verizon.net <squeezeboxdood@verizon.net> wrote: From: squeezeboxdood@verizon.net <squeezeboxdood@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project To: hancock@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, February 4, 2013, 8:12 PM Sue/Julia I imagine I need to do a DNA test in order to be posted on the DNA Project. I want to be in contact with a living breathing family member from that line. The number I have for Bill Felkner is no longer in service. I tried calling him this weekend. I do appreciate all your help in advance. Was there a William Hancock that came through Jamestown in 1619 and was killed in the indian uprising at the Berkley Plantation in 1622? There are lots of Hancocks here in the area where I live in Newport News VA., only about 30 miles from Jamestown. There were lots of Hancocks who were born and lived and died right here in this area who were related to his line if he did, in fact, exist. My line of the family migrated into the Carolinas and into Alabama and then into TX. My grandfather/mother then moved to California and had 3 kids, my father, Henry Grady Hancock,Jr born in Long Beach, a son, Richard Clem Hancock born in Ojai and a daughter born in Los Angeles (who is currently living in Myrtle Creek, OR). I was born in Bend, OR but was raised in CA. I joined the Army in 1977 and traveled the world and ultimately ended up here in Virginia right back here where William and so many of his descendants lived. What a great story I could tell my grandkids (of which I have 5), that I brought my family back full circle to VA where it all began. Henry On 02/04/13, JULIAFWOOD@aol.com wrote ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe& from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Raymond. With all due respect, the tip is useless. I have 8 DNA Projects with over 2000 members over a span of 11 years and can tell you from that experience that some males' DNA mutates more often than others. Some have perfect matches on 67 markers but their common ancestor is more than ten generations away. Some have many mutations but their proven ancestor is only a few generations away. You can not make general statements about distance if you haven't seen a person's DNA and compared them to matching DNA. Look at Group 1 in the Hancock Project. Most of their mutations are in the first 25 Markers, so the second set of 37 markers didn't help at all. Other are the opposite. DNA doesn't lend itself to general statements. Mutations occur at random, meaning anytime at any place on the STRs. And they are, always, between a father and son. Julia In a message dated 2/5/2013 12:52:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, RKelly6704@verizon.net writes: Greetings Julia, You can easily verify the accuracy of my statement using the TiP Calculator on your Matches page. A 25/25 match indicates with a 90% probability that participants share a Common Ancestor within the past 10 generations. Most of us don't have paper trails going back 10 generations. A 37/37 match indicates with a 90% probability that participants share a Common Ancestor within the past 4 generations. We have a recent example in Group 3 of the value of upgrading to 37 markers. 15362, Calvin Ward Hancock recently upgraded from 25 to 37 markers. The data shows that he has a 37/37 match with 192813, Thomas Hunter Hancock. Their 37/37 match indicates with a 90% probability that that they share a Common Ancestor within the past 4 generations. This greatly aids in the search for the identity of the Common Ancestor. Best Regards, Raymond Kelly -----Original Message----- From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:06 PM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project While I do recommend the 37 marker test, the statement below by Raymond is not correct. DNA can't be pin pointed that way. The DNA results can't be interpreted until they are in and have DNA matches. If you order the 25 markers, you can, always, update later if you wish to have 37, 67 or 111 markers. It is best to order the most markers that you can afford. Julia French Wood Administrator, Hancock DNA Project In a message dated 2/5/2013 10:53:37 A.M. Central Standard Time, RKelly6704@verizon.net writes: Henry, I would encourage you to select the 37 marker Test. 37 markers are sufficient to confirm a connection within the past 4 generations. 25 markers are only sufficient to confirm a connection within the past 10 generations. Best Regards, Raymond Kelly -----Original Message----- From: Sue Jones Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:41 AM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project Henry, First of all, I want to urge you to get the DNA test. PLEASE. I doubt you are connected to the Jamestown Hancocks, but the DNA test will be the only way to know. I have been digging through mounds of old research tonight trying to figure out where I have seen the genealogy for Henry Grady Hancock III. Julia assures me it has never been on the Hancock DNA chart. I finally figured it out. In 2005 and 2006, Bill Felknor (spelled "nor" as opposed to "ner") shared a lot of material with me. I know you were once in touch with Bill. If you don't have the entire genealogy record dating back to Robert b. 1711 in VA, I do and will be happy to share it with you. You will need to send me your address offline so I can mail everything to you. There's a lot of paperwork. Bill Felknor only has documentation going back to Robert b. 1711 in VA. He speculates that your line goes all the way back to William, born about 1580 in England, but your DNA will be the only proof of that speculation. I even think there's reason to believe your line may be kin to my line. There's a lot of overlap in our families, so your DNA test results will be of great interest to me. Sue in Texas --- On Mon, 2/4/13, squeezeboxdood@verizon.net <squeezeboxdood@verizon.net> wrote: From: squeezeboxdood@verizon.net <squeezeboxdood@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project To: hancock@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, February 4, 2013, 8:12 PM Sue/Julia I imagine I need to do a DNA test in order to be posted on the DNA Project. I want to be in contact with a living breathing family member from that line. The number I have for Bill Felkner is no longer in service. I tried calling him this weekend. I do appreciate all your help in advance. Was there a William Hancock that came through Jamestown in 1619 and was killed in the indian uprising at the Berkley Plantation in 1622? There are lots of Hancocks here in the area where I live in Newport News VA., only about 30 miles from Jamestown. There were lots of Hancocks who were born and lived and died right here in this area who were related to his line if he did, in fact, exist. My line of the family migrated into the Carolinas and into Alabama and then into TX. My grandfather/mother then moved to California and had 3 kids, my father, Henry Grady Hancock,Jr born in Long Beach, a son, Richard Clem Hancock born in Ojai and a daughter born in Los Angeles (who is currently living in Myrtle Creek, OR). I was born in Bend, OR but was raised in CA. I joined the Army in 1977 and traveled the world and ultimately ended up here in Virginia right back here where William and so many of his descendants lived. What a great story I could tell my grandkids (of which I have 5), that I brought my family back full circle to VA where it all began. Henry On 02/04/13, JULIAFWOOD@aol.com wrote ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe& from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings Julia, You can easily verify the accuracy of my statement using the TiP Calculator on your Matches page. A 25/25 match indicates with a 90% probability that participants share a Common Ancestor within the past 10 generations. Most of us don't have paper trails going back 10 generations. A 37/37 match indicates with a 90% probability that participants share a Common Ancestor within the past 4 generations. We have a recent example in Group 3 of the value of upgrading to 37 markers. 15362, Calvin Ward Hancock recently upgraded from 25 to 37 markers. The data shows that he has a 37/37 match with 192813, Thomas Hunter Hancock. Their 37/37 match indicates with a 90% probability that that they share a Common Ancestor within the past 4 generations. This greatly aids in the search for the identity of the Common Ancestor. Best Regards, Raymond Kelly -----Original Message----- From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:06 PM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project While I do recommend the 37 marker test, the statement below by Raymond is not correct. DNA can't be pin pointed that way. The DNA results can't be interpreted until they are in and have DNA matches. If you order the 25 markers, you can, always, update later if you wish to have 37, 67 or 111 markers. It is best to order the most markers that you can afford. Julia French Wood Administrator, Hancock DNA Project In a message dated 2/5/2013 10:53:37 A.M. Central Standard Time, RKelly6704@verizon.net writes: Henry, I would encourage you to select the 37 marker Test. 37 markers are sufficient to confirm a connection within the past 4 generations. 25 markers are only sufficient to confirm a connection within the past 10 generations. Best Regards, Raymond Kelly -----Original Message----- From: Sue Jones Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:41 AM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project Henry, First of all, I want to urge you to get the DNA test. PLEASE. I doubt you are connected to the Jamestown Hancocks, but the DNA test will be the only way to know. I have been digging through mounds of old research tonight trying to figure out where I have seen the genealogy for Henry Grady Hancock III. Julia assures me it has never been on the Hancock DNA chart. I finally figured it out. In 2005 and 2006, Bill Felknor (spelled "nor" as opposed to "ner") shared a lot of material with me. I know you were once in touch with Bill. If you don't have the entire genealogy record dating back to Robert b. 1711 in VA, I do and will be happy to share it with you. You will need to send me your address offline so I can mail everything to you. There's a lot of paperwork. Bill Felknor only has documentation going back to Robert b. 1711 in VA. He speculates that your line goes all the way back to William, born about 1580 in England, but your DNA will be the only proof of that speculation. I even think there's reason to believe your line may be kin to my line. There's a lot of overlap in our families, so your DNA test results will be of great interest to me. Sue in Texas --- On Mon, 2/4/13, squeezeboxdood@verizon.net <squeezeboxdood@verizon.net> wrote: From: squeezeboxdood@verizon.net <squeezeboxdood@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project To: hancock@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, February 4, 2013, 8:12 PM Sue/Julia I imagine I need to do a DNA test in order to be posted on the DNA Project. I want to be in contact with a living breathing family member from that line. The number I have for Bill Felkner is no longer in service. I tried calling him this weekend. I do appreciate all your help in advance. Was there a William Hancock that came through Jamestown in 1619 and was killed in the indian uprising at the Berkley Plantation in 1622? There are lots of Hancocks here in the area where I live in Newport News VA., only about 30 miles from Jamestown. There were lots of Hancocks who were born and lived and died right here in this area who were related to his line if he did, in fact, exist. My line of the family migrated into the Carolinas and into Alabama and then into TX. My grandfather/mother then moved to California and had 3 kids, my father, Henry Grady Hancock,Jr born in Long Beach, a son, Richard Clem Hancock born in Ojai and a daughter born in Los Angeles (who is currently living in Myrtle Creek, OR). I was born in Bend, OR but was raised in CA. I joined the Army in 1977 and traveled the world and ultimately ended up here in Virginia right back here where William and so many of his descendants lived. What a great story I could tell my grandkids (of which I have 5), that I brought my family back full circle to VA where it all began. Henry On 02/04/13, JULIAFWOOD@aol.com wrote ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

While I do recommend the 37 marker test, the statement below by Raymond is not correct. DNA can't be pin pointed that way. The DNA results can't be interpreted until they are in and have DNA matches. If you order the 25 markers, you can, always, update later if you wish to have 37, 67 or 111 markers. It is best to order the most markers that you can afford. Julia French Wood Administrator, Hancock DNA Project In a message dated 2/5/2013 10:53:37 A.M. Central Standard Time, RKelly6704@verizon.net writes: Henry, I would encourage you to select the 37 marker Test. 37 markers are sufficient to confirm a connection within the past 4 generations. 25 markers are only sufficient to confirm a connection within the past 10 generations. Best Regards, Raymond Kelly -----Original Message----- From: Sue Jones Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:41 AM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project Henry, First of all, I want to urge you to get the DNA test. PLEASE. I doubt you are connected to the Jamestown Hancocks, but the DNA test will be the only way to know. I have been digging through mounds of old research tonight trying to figure out where I have seen the genealogy for Henry Grady Hancock III. Julia assures me it has never been on the Hancock DNA chart. I finally figured it out. In 2005 and 2006, Bill Felknor (spelled "nor" as opposed to "ner") shared a lot of material with me. I know you were once in touch with Bill. If you don't have the entire genealogy record dating back to Robert b. 1711 in VA, I do and will be happy to share it with you. You will need to send me your address offline so I can mail everything to you. There's a lot of paperwork. Bill Felknor only has documentation going back to Robert b. 1711 in VA. He speculates that your line goes all the way back to William, born about 1580 in England, but your DNA will be the only proof of that speculation. I even think there's reason to believe your line may be kin to my line. There's a lot of overlap in our families, so your DNA test results will be of great interest to me. Sue in Texas --- On Mon, 2/4/13, squeezeboxdood@verizon.net <squeezeboxdood@verizon.net> wrote: From: squeezeboxdood@verizon.net <squeezeboxdood@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project To: hancock@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, February 4, 2013, 8:12 PM Sue/Julia I imagine I need to do a DNA test in order to be posted on the DNA Project. I want to be in contact with a living breathing family member from that line. The number I have for Bill Felkner is no longer in service. I tried calling him this weekend. I do appreciate all your help in advance. Was there a William Hancock that came through Jamestown in 1619 and was killed in the indian uprising at the Berkley Plantation in 1622? There are lots of Hancocks here in the area where I live in Newport News VA., only about 30 miles from Jamestown. There were lots of Hancocks who were born and lived and died right here in this area who were related to his line if he did, in fact, exist. My line of the family migrated into the Carolinas and into Alabama and then into TX. My grandfather/mother then moved to California and had 3 kids, my father, Henry Grady Hancock,Jr born in Long Beach, a son, Richard Clem Hancock born in Ojai and a daughter born in Los Angeles (who is currently living in Myrtle Creek, OR). I was born in Bend, OR but was raised in CA. I joined the Army in 1977 and traveled the world and ultimately ended up here in Virginia right back here where William and so many of his descendants lived. What a great story I could tell my grandkids (of which I have 5), that I brought my family back full circle to VA where it all began. Henry On 02/04/13, JULIAFWOOD@aol.com wrote ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Henry, I would encourage you to select the 37 marker Test. 37 markers are sufficient to confirm a connection within the past 4 generations. 25 markers are only sufficient to confirm a connection within the past 10 generations. Best Regards, Raymond Kelly -----Original Message----- From: Sue Jones Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:41 AM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project Henry, First of all, I want to urge you to get the DNA test. PLEASE. I doubt you are connected to the Jamestown Hancocks, but the DNA test will be the only way to know. I have been digging through mounds of old research tonight trying to figure out where I have seen the genealogy for Henry Grady Hancock III. Julia assures me it has never been on the Hancock DNA chart. I finally figured it out. In 2005 and 2006, Bill Felknor (spelled "nor" as opposed to "ner") shared a lot of material with me. I know you were once in touch with Bill. If you don't have the entire genealogy record dating back to Robert b. 1711 in VA, I do and will be happy to share it with you. You will need to send me your address offline so I can mail everything to you. There's a lot of paperwork. Bill Felknor only has documentation going back to Robert b. 1711 in VA. He speculates that your line goes all the way back to William, born about 1580 in England, but your DNA will be the only proof of that speculation. I even think there's reason to believe your line may be kin to my line. There's a lot of overlap in our families, so your DNA test results will be of great interest to me. Sue in Texas --- On Mon, 2/4/13, squeezeboxdood@verizon.net <squeezeboxdood@verizon.net> wrote: From: squeezeboxdood@verizon.net <squeezeboxdood@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project To: hancock@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, February 4, 2013, 8:12 PM Sue/Julia I imagine I need to do a DNA test in order to be posted on the DNA Project. I want to be in contact with a living breathing family member from that line. The number I have for Bill Felkner is no longer in service. I tried calling him this weekend. I do appreciate all your help in advance. Was there a William Hancock that came through Jamestown in 1619 and was killed in the indian uprising at the Berkley Plantation in 1622? There are lots of Hancocks here in the area where I live in Newport News VA., only about 30 miles from Jamestown. There were lots of Hancocks who were born and lived and died right here in this area who were related to his line if he did, in fact, exist. My line of the family migrated into the Carolinas and into Alabama and then into TX. My grandfather/mother then moved to California and had 3 kids, my father, Henry Grady Hancock,Jr born in Long Beach, a son, Richard Clem Hancock born in Ojai and a daughter born in Los Angeles (who is currently living in Myrtle Creek, OR). I was born in Bend, OR but was raised in CA. I joined the Army in 1977 and traveled the world and ultimately ended up here in Virginia right back here where William and so many of his descendants lived. What a great story I could tell my grandkids (of which I have 5), that I brought my family back full circle to VA where it all began. Henry On 02/04/13, JULIAFWOOD@aol.com wrote ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

-----Original Message----- From: hancock-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hancock-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 10:16 PM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: [HANCOCK] JOHN 'J' HANCOCK Carolyn, DId you get the file I sent to you about John J Hancock? It's several pages of notes that were found in files from several genealogy researchers. I did correspond with some of the writers of the letters included, but it's been several years ago. Hope you might find something useful in it! Lisa ------------------------------- Join our DNA Project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock (Scroll down to place your order) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hey Lisa & Lea: Was going to comment here futher; will just hold until I hear from you. You state that Samuel of Montgomery in his Rev Papers states he was in Augusta, GA with his Uncle, Francis. Have these papers in front of me now; however, in none of these do I see the name Francis mentioned. I do see the statement regarding living with his Uncle in Augusta. I have been working on Francis Hancock of SC/GA for years but seen nothing relating to this. Please, would or could one of you, tell me where the source is for showing the name Francis. Most appreciated. Leonard Leonard ----- Original Message ----- From: "lea" <lkmorris@rtmc.net> To: <hancock@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Hoping that all is well. > Hi, well I thought Samuel of Montgomery co. was Rev. John Hancock's > brother, > who came here first and then John came, so I really don't know. And its > possible that his brother William was here too. Lea > > >> Lea, >> >> I'll send the info I have on Samuel later this week. One interesting >> thing I found in John's Rev. War file is that he enlisted in Craven >> County, NC. Why was he in Craven County? Samuel was in Augusta, GA when >> he enlisted, but he was living with his uncle, Francis Hancock. And >> Samuel moved to Montgomery Co., NC in 1792. Who was the Samuel Hancock >> in Montgomery Co, NC in the 1790 census? Question after >> question....never ending with this group of Hancocks!! >> >> Lisa >> >> On 2/2/2013 5:58 PM, lea wrote: >>> Hi, what do you have on Samuel, the only thing I have are the rev. war >>> records, who were his children? Send me what you might have on him, I >>> will >>> send what I have on John, just let me know what. Lea >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Lisa" <lisacraven@northstate.net> >>> To: <hancock@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 4:06 PM >>> Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Hoping that all is well. >>> >>> >>>> I'll put together a run-down on Samuel for you. I went to the library >>>> in Troy several years ago and found some interesting land deeds >>>> involving the Hancock's. I do have a question...do you have anything >>>> on >>>> Martin Hancock? He caught my eye, as he could be a son of Samuel that >>>> I >>>> had overlooked...unless he was a son of John. I know John had lots of >>>> children! >>>> >>>> Lisa >>>> >>>> On 12/29/2012 8:02 PM, lea wrote: >>>>> I am very interested in Samuel to, as I have very little on him, do >>>>> you >>>>> know >>>>> who his children were, also wife, I have his rev. war papers, I also >>>>> have >>>>> Johns. lea >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Lisa" <lisacraven@northstate.net> >>>>> To: <hancock@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 4:21 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Hoping that all is well. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi everyone! I'm still working on the Randolph and Montgomery Co, NC >>>>>> Hancocks as time allows. Still very interested in finding all I can >>>>>> on >>>>>> these folks. Like Julia, I'm still the same, except a bit older. I >>>>>> have one daughter that will be leaving for Parris Island, SC soon, as >>>>>> she begins her journey of becoming a US Marine. While I'm very proud >>>>>> of >>>>>> her, I ask all of you to say a prayer for her safety. My other >>>>>> daughter >>>>>> is working long hours, as do I. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lea, any info you have on John Hancock in Montgomery Co would be >>>>>> welcomed by me, as John is the brother of my ancestor, Samuel. >>>>>> >>>>>> I wish everyone the best new year possible!! >>>>>> >>>>>> Lisa >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/29/2012 3:35 PM, JULIAFWOOD@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>> Dear Hancock family, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have just received a notice that our dear friend, Dale Hancock, of >>>>>>> Mississippi passed away on December 17th and know that many of you >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> want to >>>>>>> know. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Odessa & Helene and I decided that since we haven't heard from many >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> our >>>>>>> Hancock friends here on the Hancock list in a long while, it is >>>>>>> time >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> we all checked in and said hello and maybe you will give us an >>>>>>> update >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> what is happening with you and yours. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am the same (just a lot older). Still doing genealogy research as >>>>>>> often >>>>>>> as possible, among other hobbies and have 10 grandchildren to keep >>>>>>> me >>>>>>> hopping. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Julia French Wood >>>>>>> Hancock list Adm. >>>>>>> In New Orleans >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> Join our DNA Project at: >>>>>>> www.small-stuff.com/HANCOCK/DNA >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> Join our DNA Project at: >>>>>> www.small-stuff.com/HANCOCK/DNA >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> Join our DNA Project at: >>>>> www.small-stuff.com/HANCOCK/DNA >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> Join our DNA Project at: >>>> www.small-stuff.com/HANCOCK/DNA >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> ------------------------------- >>> Join our DNA Project at: >>> http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock >>> >>> (Scroll down to place your order) >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> Join our DNA Project at: >> http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock >> >> (Scroll down to place your order) >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Join our DNA Project at: > http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock > > (Scroll down to place your order) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6081 - Release Date: 02/04/13 >

Helene, And...isn't the HOLT-HANCOCK line in the Chart 3 DNA Group, although we don't yet know the ancestral connections? Audrey -----Original Message----- From: hancock-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hancock-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Helene Pockrus Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 2:09 AM To: hancock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project There is a memorial to a William Hancock in Jamestow, Surry, VA that we saw and took a picture of many year ago. I believe he was a captain. That was on our search for the Holts and our Holts married Hancocks.. Helene -------------------------------------------------- From: "Sue Jones" <jonessh@swbell.net> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:41 PM To: <hancock@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project > Henry, > First of all, I want to urge you to get the DNA test. PLEASE. I doubt you > are connected to the Jamestown Hancocks, but the DNA test will be the only > way to know. > I have been digging through mounds of old research tonight trying to > figure out where I have seen the genealogy for Henry Grady Hancock III. > Julia assures me it has never been on the Hancock DNA chart. I finally > figured it out. In 2005 and 2006, Bill Felknor (spelled "nor" as opposed > to "ner") shared a lot of material with me. I know you were once in touch > with Bill. If you don't have the entire genealogy record dating back to > Robert b. 1711 in VA, I do and will be happy to share it with you. You > will need to send me your address offline so I can mail everything to you. > There's a lot > of paperwork. > Bill Felknor only has documentation going back to Robert b. 1711 in VA. He > speculates that your line goes all the way back to William, born about > 1580 in England, but your DNA will be the only proof of that speculation. > I even think there's reason to believe your line may be kin to my line. > There's a lot of overlap in our families, so your DNA test results will be > of great interest to me. > Sue in Texas > > > --- On Mon, 2/4/13, squeezeboxdood@verizon.net > <squeezeboxdood@verizon.net> wrote: > > From: squeezeboxdood@verizon.net <squeezeboxdood@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project > To: hancock@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, February 4, 2013, 8:12 PM > > > Sue/Julia > I imagine I need to do a DNA test in order to be posted on the DNA > Project. > I want to be in contact with a living breathing family member from that > line. The number I have for Bill Felkner is no longer in service. I > tried > calling him this weekend. I do appreciate all your help in advance. > Was there a William Hancock that came > through Jamestown in 1619 and was > killed in the indian uprising at the Berkley Plantation in 1622? There > are > lots of Hancocks here in the area where I live in Newport News VA., > only > about 30 miles from Jamestown. There were lots of Hancocks who were > born > and lived and died right here in this area who were related to his line > if > he did, in fact, exist. My line of the family migrated into the > Carolinas > and into Alabama and then into TX. My grandfather/mother then moved to > California and had 3 kids, my father, Henry Grady Hancock,Jr born in > Long > Beach, a son, Richard Clem Hancock born in Ojai and a daughter born in > Los > Angeles (who is currently living in Myrtle Creek, OR). I was born in > Bend, > OR but was raised in > CA. I joined the Army in 1977 and traveled the world > and ultimately ended up here in Virginia right back here where William > and > so many of his descendants lived. What a great story I could tell my > grandkids (of which I have 5), that I brought my family back full > circle to > VA where it all began. > Henry > On 02/04/13, JULIAFWOOD@aol.com wrote

Hi, well I thought Samuel of Montgomery co. was Rev. John Hancock's brother, who came here first and then John came, so I really don't know. And its possible that his brother William was here too. Lea > Lea, > > I'll send the info I have on Samuel later this week. One interesting > thing I found in John's Rev. War file is that he enlisted in Craven > County, NC. Why was he in Craven County? Samuel was in Augusta, GA when > he enlisted, but he was living with his uncle, Francis Hancock. And > Samuel moved to Montgomery Co., NC in 1792. Who was the Samuel Hancock > in Montgomery Co, NC in the 1790 census? Question after > question....never ending with this group of Hancocks!! > > Lisa > > On 2/2/2013 5:58 PM, lea wrote: >> Hi, what do you have on Samuel, the only thing I have are the rev. war >> records, who were his children? Send me what you might have on him, I >> will >> send what I have on John, just let me know what. Lea >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lisa" <lisacraven@northstate.net> >> To: <hancock@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 4:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Hoping that all is well. >> >> >>> I'll put together a run-down on Samuel for you. I went to the library >>> in Troy several years ago and found some interesting land deeds >>> involving the Hancock's. I do have a question...do you have anything on >>> Martin Hancock? He caught my eye, as he could be a son of Samuel that I >>> had overlooked...unless he was a son of John. I know John had lots of >>> children! >>> >>> Lisa >>> >>> On 12/29/2012 8:02 PM, lea wrote: >>>> I am very interested in Samuel to, as I have very little on him, do you >>>> know >>>> who his children were, also wife, I have his rev. war papers, I also >>>> have >>>> Johns. lea >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Lisa" <lisacraven@northstate.net> >>>> To: <hancock@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 4:21 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Hoping that all is well. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi everyone! I'm still working on the Randolph and Montgomery Co, NC >>>>> Hancocks as time allows. Still very interested in finding all I can >>>>> on >>>>> these folks. Like Julia, I'm still the same, except a bit older. I >>>>> have one daughter that will be leaving for Parris Island, SC soon, as >>>>> she begins her journey of becoming a US Marine. While I'm very proud >>>>> of >>>>> her, I ask all of you to say a prayer for her safety. My other >>>>> daughter >>>>> is working long hours, as do I. >>>>> >>>>> Lea, any info you have on John Hancock in Montgomery Co would be >>>>> welcomed by me, as John is the brother of my ancestor, Samuel. >>>>> >>>>> I wish everyone the best new year possible!! >>>>> >>>>> Lisa >>>>> >>>>> On 12/29/2012 3:35 PM, JULIAFWOOD@aol.com wrote: >>>>>> Dear Hancock family, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have just received a notice that our dear friend, Dale Hancock, of >>>>>> Mississippi passed away on December 17th and know that many of you >>>>>> would >>>>>> want to >>>>>> know. >>>>>> >>>>>> Odessa & Helene and I decided that since we haven't heard from many >>>>>> of >>>>>> our >>>>>> Hancock friends here on the Hancock list in a long while, it is time >>>>>> that >>>>>> we all checked in and said hello and maybe you will give us an >>>>>> update >>>>>> on >>>>>> what is happening with you and yours. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am the same (just a lot older). Still doing genealogy research as >>>>>> often >>>>>> as possible, among other hobbies and have 10 grandchildren to keep me >>>>>> hopping. >>>>>> >>>>>> Julia French Wood >>>>>> Hancock list Adm. >>>>>> In New Orleans >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> Join our DNA Project at: >>>>>> www.small-stuff.com/HANCOCK/DNA >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> Join our DNA Project at: >>>>> www.small-stuff.com/HANCOCK/DNA >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> Join our DNA Project at: >>>> www.small-stuff.com/HANCOCK/DNA >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> Join our DNA Project at: >>> www.small-stuff.com/HANCOCK/DNA >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ------------------------------- >> Join our DNA Project at: >> http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock >> >> (Scroll down to place your order) >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > Join our DNA Project at: > http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock > > (Scroll down to place your order) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a memorial to a Willia Hancock in Jamestow, Surry, VA that we saw and took a picture of many year ago. I believe he was a captain. That was on our search for the Holts and our Holts married Hancocks.. Helene -------------------------------------------------- From: "Sue Jones" <jonessh@swbell.net> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:41 PM To: <hancock@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project > Henry, > First of all, I want to urge you to get the DNA test. PLEASE. I doubt you > are connected to the Jamestown Hancocks, but the DNA test will be the only > way to know. > I have been digging through mounds of old research tonight trying to > figure out where I have seen the genealogy for Henry Grady Hancock III. > Julia assures me it has never been on the Hancock DNA chart. I finally > figured it out. In 2005 and 2006, Bill Felknor (spelled "nor" as opposed > to "ner") shared a lot of material with me. I know you were once in touch > with Bill. If you don't have the entire genealogy record dating back to > Robert b. 1711 in VA, I do and will be happy to share it with you. You > will need to send me your address offline so I can mail everything to you. > There's a lot > of paperwork. > Bill Felknor only has documentation going back to Robert b. 1711 in VA. He > speculates that your line goes all the way back to William, born about > 1580 in England, but your DNA will be the only proof of that speculation. > I even think there's reason to believe your line may be kin to my line. > There's a lot of overlap in our families, so your DNA test results will be > of great interest to me. > Sue in Texas > > > --- On Mon, 2/4/13, squeezeboxdood@verizon.net > <squeezeboxdood@verizon.net> wrote: > > From: squeezeboxdood@verizon.net <squeezeboxdood@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [HANCOCK] Ancestors in the DNA Project > To: hancock@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, February 4, 2013, 8:12 PM > > > Sue/Julia > I imagine I need to do a DNA test in order to be posted on the DNA > Project. > I want to be in contact with a living breathing family member from that > line. The number I have for Bill Felkner is no longer in service. I > tried > calling him this weekend. I do appreciate all your help in advance. > Was there a William Hancock that came > through Jamestown in 1619 and was > killed in the indian uprising at the Berkley Plantation in 1622? There > are > lots of Hancocks here in the area where I live in Newport News VA., > only > about 30 miles from Jamestown. There were lots of Hancocks who were > born > and lived and died right here in this area who were related to his line > if > he did, in fact, exist. My line of the family migrated into the > Carolinas > and into Alabama and then into TX. My grandfather/mother then moved to > California and had 3 kids, my father, Henry Grady Hancock,Jr born in > Long > Beach, a son, Richard Clem Hancock born in Ojai and a daughter born in > Los > Angeles (who is currently living in Myrtle Creek, OR). I was born in > Bend, > OR but was raised in > CA. I joined the Army in 1977 and traveled the world > and ultimately ended up here in Virginia right back here where William > and > so many of his descendants lived. What a great story I could tell my > grandkids (of which I have 5), that I brought my family back full > circle to > VA where it all began. > Henry > On 02/04/13, JULIAFWOOD@aol.com wrote > > > ------------------------------- > Join our DNA Project at: > http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hancock > > (Scroll down to place your order) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HANCOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >